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[bubbling]
[ethereal music]

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[electricity crackling]

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- Hello, Sharks!
- Hello!

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My name is Kalpit Patel

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I'm unrelenting to make it big.

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I'm unrelenting
to bring about a revolution.

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All of us saw a revolution in the
mobile communication industry.

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We moved on from landlines
to personal mobile phones.

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We observed a similar revolution
in computers

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from desktops to personal laptops.

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We are bringing a similar revolution

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in the passenger car segment
with PMV.

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Why do we use it?

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We use it to go to the office,
drop off the kids at school

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and for shopping.

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We travel

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in five or seven-seater SUVs
to complete all these tasks.

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A 1,500 kg car

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carries a person weighing 70 kg.

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It creates several problems.

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We are giving a single solution

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for all the big problems

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of personal mobility?

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Introducing to you, EaS-E,
Your Everyday Car.

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[triumphant music]

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Wow!

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Wow!
[chuckling]

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[triumphant music]

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Cute!

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Thank you so much!

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Vineeta can easily fit inside it.

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[chuckling]

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I'm not sure about you.

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Sharks, EaS-E, Your Everyday Car

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is India's first

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PMV as a category similar to SUVs,

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Sedan and Hatchback.

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I'm standing before you

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to fulfil this vision.

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And I request Rs. 1 crore

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to make EaS-E the second car
of every Indian?

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- Hi, Kalpit!
- Hi!

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- Welcome to Shark Tank season 2.
- Thank you so much!

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Why do your friends feel

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I'm an engineer.

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Later on, I completed my MBA
and then worked in a bank.

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I used to go to the office daily.
It was 10 kilometres away

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and it took me 45-60 minutes
to reach there.

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I always felt

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that most personal cars
have single or double occupancy.

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So practically speaking,
a small car was needed.

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And it wasn't
available in the market.

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First, I decided what to make.

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I didn't think about doing business.

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We made a prototype
and we made more prototypes later.

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I did it around August 2018.

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And that is when
I was blessed with a baby girl

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- in September 2018.
- Congratulations!

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I'm not making this up

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but when I took her to see
the doctor for the first time,

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there was no parking
near the clinic.

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So I took her there
in an autorickshaw.

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When I took her out
in an autorickshaw,

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she started crying
because of the pollution.

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She started wailing and coughing.

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That day I realised
that we slog for our children.

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We give them the best education,
the best vacation and the best toys.

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But what about the best air?

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So I realised

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that it's important to do it for
the better future of our children.

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That's when we formalised
the company in 2018, November.

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[upbeat music]

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How is it possible

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that you got an idea
while travelling in an autorickshaw?

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And you made a car within two years!

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Not two years.
Overall, I took six years.

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I got the concept in 2016.

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I learnt a plethora of things
through experience.

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I visited numerous garages.

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I opened and inspected innumerable
cars to see what's inside the car.

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Bigger companies invest
crores of rupees in R&D.

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Or is this just assembled
from parts all over the place?

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I can only invest crores
of rupees if you invest in us.

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Boss, Rs. 1 crore won't help you.

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Rs. 1 crore is a small part

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of the bigger fundraising
we are looking for.

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Who designed it mainly?

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Sir, multiple people helped me
in the last five years.

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And we also take help
from outside vendors.

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Typically, other OEMs also
do the same.

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I took their help
and manufactured it

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with a small team I made.

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Is this design your team's

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or your vendors'?

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No. The design is ours.

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And who is the second
core team member besides you?

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His name is Namdev Jhadkar.

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He has 25 years of experience
in vehicle building.

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Are you done with
all types of certifications?

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Certifications need to be taken.

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The engineering work is going on.

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We need to get the certification
to go for production.

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I must appreciate you
because it's a bold step.

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Please explain its features

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- Does your car run with an app?
- Yes!

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[ethereal music]

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Can you see the lights?

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For example, you're parking your car

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but it's dark ahead.

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So you can just switch on
the headlights from your app.

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Oh! Nice!

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- Did you make this tech or...
- Yes! We invented it.

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- Nice! Very nice.
- Its software?

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- We made the software.
- What about IoT?

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- Everything!
- Okay, very good!

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Very cute!

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Suppose, you park your car
in a parking lot

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but you don't remember
where you parked your car.

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Then you can remotely blow its horn.

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That's cool.

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It's cute.

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In case, you parked your car

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but another person parked his
car close to yours on the left side

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and on the right side too,

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you may control your car

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while standing outside.

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Whoa!

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- Wow!
- Wow!

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- It's an amazing feature.
- Shall I sit in your car?

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Anupam, come on!

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[upbeat music]

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Please take the picture
of the person sitting on the lap.

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Eternal love!

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This is the instrument cluster
and this is the infotainment system.

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- Whenever you blow the horn...
- Very nice!

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A counter will be displayed here.

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Normally,

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a driver doesn't realise
the impact of the horn.

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But a number will be displayed here
which will show

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the number of times you honked
so that you become conscious.

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And you won't honk the horn again.

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- And now we...
- That's enough.

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- Hey!
- That's enough.

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[upbeat music]

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Kalpit, let me tell you

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- that many features are good.
- Thank you!

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It's a new concept
so all of us are curious about it.

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And a heart is displayed
when we blow the horn.

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I think it's an innovative feature.

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I feel it should be incorporated in
regular cars to reduce the honking.

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Correct!

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Secondly, you've made
the backseat spacious.

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Why will it be the second?
It can be the first too.

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In a typical Indian household,

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a car is a family-oriented item.

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When a person buys a car,

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they expect their first car to be
a four-seater or a five-seater.

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But this car is a two-seater.

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Suppose he buys a bigger car.

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Will he buy a smaller car later?

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- Hmm!
- Why?

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For example,

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we don't use an axe
for shaving but a blade.

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Because it's meant
for the right purpose.

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Similarly, if you want to travel
for just 15 kilometres

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and you'd travel alone,

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driving a five-seater SUV

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and getting stuck in the traffic jam
doesn't make sense.

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Kalpit, I have a question.

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Have you heard about
the Quadricycle concept in EV?

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You must have heard about
a popular quadricycle named Qute.

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What's the difference
between a quadricycle and a car?

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What's the difference
in their regulations?

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Qute will be launched
as an electric vehicle.

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What's the difference
between their car and your car?

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Typically, when a car is launched,

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it gets a Type Approval.

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Quadricycle is L7 technically.

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And the regular cars
are in the M1 category.

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Correct!

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There is no speed restriction
in the M1 category.

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On the other hand, there's a speed
restriction in the L7 category.

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Around 70 km/hr is its top speed.

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There's a weight restriction for it

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and we can't load
more than 450 kilograms.

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Plus the weight of the battery pack.

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And there's power restriction too.

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We can't cross 15 kilowatts.

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If you study Qute,

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you'll realise
that it's claustrophobic.

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You won't feel that way in this car.

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What is its price?

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If I have Rs. 4 lakhs,

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why would I buy it?

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Sir, it can be driven for 50 paise.

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Just 50 paise per kilometre.

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Any electric car will cost the same.

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It's slightly higher.

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A bigger size car will cost rupee
1/km but the difference isn't much.

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Safety-wise it's a compromise

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because it's small and concise.

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The safety is less
than a normal car.

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How many airbags?
Please tell us that.

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We can install it
at an additional cost.

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Then the car will cost Rs. 5 lakhs.

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It'll be costlier.

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- It could cost Rs. 6 lakhs.
- Costlier!

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Did you estimate

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your market size

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for microcars? For now, it's zero.

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We haven't done
promotional activities till now?

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We have spent a little over
maybe one and a half lakh rupees.

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And we have already received
1,000 pre-orders

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Obviously, all of them
won't be converted.

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Even before we go into production...

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It's around next year, April.

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We'll have 10,000 paid
pre-orders before that.

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And the order book size
will be around Rs. 500 crores.

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People in India closely link cars
with perceptions.

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So I don't think
this specific design and model

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has the potential to gain momentum.

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[tense music]

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If you choose
to iterate your journey,

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I think you will be able
to crack the problem.

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Best of luck to you.
I'm out for now.

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Thank you so much!

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Kalpit, I don't think it'll sell.

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It's neither a car nor a bike
and it costs Rs. 4 lakhs.

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I think there's some issue with it.

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I'm not sure what the problem is.

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As a consumer, I don't understand
this product's usability.

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So I don't want
to enter this business.

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- For that reason, I'm out.
- Okay. Thank you so much!

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And for that reason, I'm out
but I wish you the best.

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Thank you so much, ma'am.

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- Kalpit, what's your age?
- I'm 35 years old.

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You spent a lot of money making it.
How much money did you invest?

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Sir, the actual cash would be
somewhere around Rs. 50 lakhs.

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- Was it your money?
- Yes!

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And we have raised some money
from some investors too.

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How much money did you raise?

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Overall, we have raised
around Rs. 53 lakhs

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from a few investors.

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First, we raised it
in October-November 2020.

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Back then we raised Rs. 19 lakhs
on a valuation cap of Rs. 10 crores.

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because I didn't have the background

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and I had to learn many things.

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Things related to battery,
manufacturing

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and vehicle design.

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What lines look better
than the others?

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So let me tell you something,

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it's our fourth iteration.

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We have already designed
three iterations before this.

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Did you make five iterations
in Rs. 1 crore?

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We didn't build a car.
They were just designs.

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00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,040
- It was just sketching the design.
- Very good!

257
00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:12,040
Very good!

258
00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,440
- That's amazing. You reached here
by spending a pittance. - Right!

259
00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,720
- That's a pittance.
- It's a remarkable feat.

260
00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,960
I must laud your courage
and determination

261
00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,440
for reaching here.

262
00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,440
How much amount do you need?
You said that you're raising money.

263
00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,800
That's the reason, you came here
with a valuation of Rs. 100 crores.

264
00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,560
I made my decision.

265
00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,640
As it's a big business,

266
00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,320
you must bring investors

267
00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:46,920
who have knowledge in this area.

268
00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,200
Unfortunately, I can't bring the
required knowledge to your business.

269
00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,680
So I'm out

270
00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,440
but please continue your work
and I wish you the best of luck.

271
00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,400
Thank you so much!

272
00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,840
- Look! I really enjoyed
your journey. - Okay.

273
00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,680
I can't fathom how you
managed to reach here.

274
00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,640
But I want to bet on you.

275
00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:10,560
Ooh!

276
00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,560
So I'll make an offer to you.

277
00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,600
Wow!

278
00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:17,680
I'm betting only on you.

279
00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,080
- I'd never bet on this car.
- Okay!

280
00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,960
My offer would be based
on your last round of valuation.

281
00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,040
So I'll give you Rs. 60 lakhs

282
00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,600
at the same valuation

283
00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,680
and I'll give you
Rs. 40 lakhs as a loan

284
00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,600
at an interest rate
that we'll determine later.

285
00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,480
Our deal will be closed beforehand.

286
00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,640
I just want to see the traction

287
00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,680
- that you'd reach that number.
- Right!

288
00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,440
Thank you so much
for making an offer.

289
00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,480
Can I go and ponder your offer?

290
00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,120
- Yes!
- Sure!

291
00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,400
Fine.

292
00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,360
I think he's on a journey
which can become big.

293
00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,280
What he fails to understand

294
00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:14,400
is that the product
needs to be aspirational.

295
00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,920
- I think you must help him make
the next model. - I'll teach him.

296
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,920
- We'll teach him.
- It must appear aspirational.

297
00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,120
Kalpit, welcome back.

298
00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,400
Yes, thank you!

299
00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,800
Did you like
Mr. Mittal's offer or not?

300
00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,360
Oh!

301
00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,240
Although I like Mr. Mittal,

302
00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,640
if you could increase the amount
of your offer,

303
00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,320
it'd be a great help.

304
00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,680
I request you

305
00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,680
to make an offer
according to Rs. 50 crores valuation

306
00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,160
and please don't give a debt because
I can't repay debt as of now.

307
00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,560
- So please invest Rs. 1 crore.
- For 2%!

308
00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,240
And consider
a valuation of Rs. 50 crores.

309
00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,240
Your counteroffer is Rs. 1 crore

310
00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,400
- Correct!
- Kalpit, I already said before

311
00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,080
that I'm not making
an offer for your prototype.

312
00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:07,440
Right!

313
00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,320
I don't like this prototype.

314
00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,720
I like you and I want
to invest money in you.

315
00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,280
The tenacity you showed
in the last few years

316
00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,440
makes me feel
that you'd succeed in future.

317
00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,160
I can do one thing.

318
00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,800
You want me to remove the debt part.

319
00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,120
I'll remove it and give you
Rs. 1 crore in return for equity.

320
00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,440
But I can't surpass
the last valuation.

321
00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,800
I don't think

322
00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,080
that you have made enough progress
since the last round

323
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,720
for me to give you
even twice the valuation.

324
00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,320
So you have Anupam's counteroffer.

325
00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,640
[dramatic music]

326
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,800
Rs. 1 crore for 6.67% equity.

327
00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:03,320
First of all, thank you so much,
everybody.

328
00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,400
And, sir, thank you so much
for your offer

329
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,160
but I can't accept your offer.

330
00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,160
[sweeping music]

331
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,120
As I feel that we have slogged

332
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,880
and if we don't get its value,

333
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,160
it won't be useful for us.

334
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,480
So I'm sorry

335
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,120
but I can't accept this offer.

336
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,400
- It's okay.
- Kalpit, it's okay. It's nice

337
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,960
that you came here
and listened to my offer.

338
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,400
- Thank you so much!
- All the best!

339
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,800
- All the best, Kalpit! Thanks!
- Thank you!

340
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,040
[sweeping music]

341
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,600
[music playing]

342
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,000
[thrilling music playing]

343
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,160
- Namaste Sharks.
- Namaste.

344
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,240
Imagine the movie, Sholay.

345
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:27,760
Ooh.

346
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,920
- Without Basanti.
- Oh.

347
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,280
Or Salim, without Anarkali.

348
00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:34,640
Oh.

349
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:35,800
Or this tank

350
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,240
- without all of you.
- Oh my God.

351
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,000
Just like

352
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,560
samosa without spicy chutney.

353
00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:46,800
Or idli without coconut chutney.

354
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,880
- No.
- That would be an injustice.

355
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,360
You are not enjoying it, right?

356
00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:55,240
We are team Spice Story
and we have brought for you

357
00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:59,320
the taste of flavours from Indian
streets in a sauce form.

358
00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:24,360
we distribute these local
flavours worldwide.

359
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,520
And to fulfil this mission

360
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,120
we need your support.

361
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,280
Our ask is

362
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,360
44, from Mumbai.

363
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,760
With me is chef Vibhor.
He is 40 years old.

364
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,640
- Very good choice.
- Very smart.

365
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,520
It's good.

366
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,240
And how did you decide
to work together?

367
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,960
I'm a distribution guy by choice.

368
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,480
I have done distribution for 21
years in FMCG and financial services.

369
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,800
- I have worked in 5 countries.
- Oh, nice.

370
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,800
In 19 cities in India.

371
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,360
The advertising agency that I
used to work in

372
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,960
was also where Gayatri had
worked at some time.

373
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,680
I convinced Gayatri to
come and work with me.

374
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:20,960
You have worked
on the side of brands.

375
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,280
Either we will fight or
create something amazing.

376
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:25,480
[laughter]

377
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,360
I met Vibhor the same way. Initially,
we made only 2 or 3 chutneys.

378
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,520
He tasted it and asked me
if I was selling it.

379
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:33,560
I said yes.

380
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,720
He said it was horrible.

381
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,120
[laughter]

382
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,360
I asked him if he could make it.

383
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,320
He said yes, so I said, make it.

384
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,080
Our passion and you can see
it when you see us,

385
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,760
is that we are alive for eating.

386
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,160
[laughter]

387
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,640
So this keeps us together.

388
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,040
This is our story, ma'am.

389
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,760
- Before we get into the business...
- yeah.

390
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,920
Let's start the exciting
part and eat.

391
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:00,720
The food.

392
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,360
[laughter]

393
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,560
Please come.

394
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,560
What would you like to taste?

395
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,760
I would like to taste everything.

396
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,520
- Your packaging is very attractive.
- Thank you.

397
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,320
What is this?

398
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,000
This is an onion tomato thokku.
It's a South Indian chutney.

399
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:15,240
- Let's go there and eat.
- I'll serve you this Kolkata...

400
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,920
Yes, give me that to taste.

401
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,080
[lively music]

402
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,120
The dahi bhalla you are eating
has Agra ki saunth.

403
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,400
And Dilli wali mint chutney.

404
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,320
The dahi bhalla is outstanding
with the chutneys.

405
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,800
It's not tasting very different.

406
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,320
No, but the fact that it
is not different

407
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,320
is a big deal if it's
coming from a...

408
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,720
Bottle. I loved it.

409
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,520
- I just had this Indori lemon,
it's mind-blowing. - It's amazing.

410
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:51,320
I agree.

411
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,680
I really liked it. I am
going to steal one bottle today.

412
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:58,840
All the chutneys I had
were super amazing.

413
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,360
- Overall, 10/10 in my book.
- Well done.

414
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,920
Thank you so much.

415
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,480
- Who is the CEO?
- I'm the CEO.

416
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,000
And equity distribution?

417
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,160
- We three have around 55% shares.
- Oh.

418
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,320
Oh.

419
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:23,960
Okay.

420
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,120
They are not full time so they
are not in the co-founding system.

421
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,800
They both have 21% more.

422
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,160
Which has endless consumption
in our country.

423
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,400
Yes, absolutely.

424
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,360
The growth should have
been much more.

425
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,120
I agree.

426
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,080
You should have been a 30 crore
company if not more.

427
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,400
- Absolutely. - So what happened?
Could you not change habits?

428
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,560
Or was there something
lacking in your execution?

429
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,920
[dramatic music]

430
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:23,800
Anupam, we are going a bit
slow because

431
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,520
when you establish a new category,

432
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,640
it requires a lot of cash burn.

433
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,080
But going slow is finishing
your capital.

434
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,080
[dramatic music]

435
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,880
How much money did you
invest in the business?

436
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,760
Around Rs. 65 lakhs.

437
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,160
- How much did you raise?
- Yes, what's that amount?

438
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,040
4.7 crores in 2 rounds.

439
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:42,880
Valuation?

440
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,520
We first raised 1.7 crores in 2021.

441
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,000
- Almost 10 times sales.
- Yes.

442
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,880
Very generous investor.

443
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,640
[dramatic music]

444
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,080
And you profitably grossed
4 crores last year?

445
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,200
- We are CM1 positive so...
- CM1 positive?

446
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,960
- We... -One minute, let's explain
to the viewers.

447
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,640
What does CM mean?

448
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,240
Contribution margin.

449
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,840
What does CM1 mean?

450
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,840
Where we have the channel margin,

451
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,760
shipping, logistics, COGS etc.

452
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,560
But why will you be doing that?

453
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,040
Why would you sell anything
at a loss?

454
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:11,440
[dramatic music]

455
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,840
And also tell us, why you've
been doing it for 3 years?

456
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,480
We feel we are still in the
trial stage where

457
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,120
we are acquiring customers.

458
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,600
I don't understand it.

459
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,360
[dramatic music]

460
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,200
If it is some good food,
people get addicted and keep buying.

461
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,600
There is word of mouth.

462
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,200
I'm doubting your
execution capabilities.

463
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,080
[dramatic music]

464
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,920
You said your contribution margin,

465
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,200
the money saved after performance
marketing is negative.

466
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:41,960
Yes.

467
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,840
But you also said

468
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,800
you had a net revenue of
57 lakhs last month.

469
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,880
I did not understand these numbers.

470
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,800
- Paras...
- You didn't hear me.

471
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:51,840
Sorry.

472
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,640
That's it.

473
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,040
[dramatic music]

474
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,720
What is the total EBITDA loss
per month?

475
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,200
You have to think?

476
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,600
I don't understand anything.

477
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,880
Soumyadeep, to be honest with you.

478
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,440
You seem a little aloof.

479
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,800
There is something wrong
with the story.

480
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,520
I think the product
must be expensive.

481
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,320
Why this sad story for Spice Story?

482
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,440
[dramatic music]

483
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,560
There is something.

484
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,280
There are two things.

485
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,160
The lockdown happened in 2020.

486
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,160
We went to Spencer's

487
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,760
and then retail went into
a complete shutdown.

488
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,600
And we saw this twice in the
last two years.

489
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,480
So our primary channel to
reach the audience...

490
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,000
slowed down a lot.

491
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,840
Hmm.

492
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,240
We launched E-commerce
around 18 months ago.

493
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,480
When we learnt that we will not
benefit from modern trade.

494
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,360
- Absolutely.
- So we had no choice

495
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,240
because we had to keep going.

496
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,000
So we focused only on Amazon.

497
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,760
Then we launched on Flipkart.

498
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,680
In that manner,
we grew our business.

499
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,600
- Now I agree with the story.
- Yeah?

500
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,880
We understood the truth.

501
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,920
We tried asking him 4-5 times

502
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,800
but you explained truthfully
why the problem happened.

503
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,840
He is a salesperson

504
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,520
so he is trying to say
what he thinks we want to hear.

505
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,240
[laughter]

506
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,360
- She is telling us the truth.
- Correct.

507
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,320
I've made my decision.

508
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,120
[dramatic music]

509
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,320
My expectation has been
quite mismatched.

510
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,600
I thought you all would be
exploding in the market.

511
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,560
Execution is a big issue
in your team.

512
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,040
This is where I drop off for now.

513
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,680
You guys have the right product.

514
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,760
A lot can happen
if your product is good.

515
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,240
Improve these remaining things.

516
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,480
Someday we shall meet again.

517
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,080
Absolutely, sir.

518
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,920
I made my decision too.

519
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,520
I did not understand

520
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,160
that in a company where the
biggest hero is the product,

521
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,800
your chef who is your
key partner,

522
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,520
why is his equity so low?

523
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,560
[dramatic music]

524
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,560
My second problem is that your
cap table

525
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,480
at a scale of 4 crores a year
in sales,

526
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,440
with an average revenue run rate,
you only have a 54% share.

527
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,760
I wish you the best,
I hope you prove me wrong.

528
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,200
Our loss.

529
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,320
I would like to echo that
the product is phenomenal.

530
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,560
- Yes. - The price point,
branding

531
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,240
and POSM is very good.

532
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,160
I think any product where your
contribution margin is negative,

533
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,920
I mean, the more you
sell the more the loss,

534
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,560
is very dangerous.

535
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,480
So I think your channel,
general trade modern trade

536
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,560
- is more profitable.
- General trade.

537
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,720
And I think if you take that
to 70-80%,

538
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,880
- it can be more scalable.
- Yes.

539
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,080
As of now, it won't work for
me as a deal.

540
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,200
But best of luck.

541
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,960
Now focus on the remaining
two sharks.

542
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,680
What do you think your revenue
will be in the next 2 years?

543
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,040
We can do business worth
60 crores annually.

544
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,880
You have not managed till now
so how can you be sure?

545
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,560
[suspenseful music]

546
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,760
We didn't have partnerships earlier
but we have built them now.

547
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,760
We did a pilot and saw it was

548
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,480
difficult selling a
bottle for Rs. 150.

549
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,880
We brought trial pack pouches
for Rs. 30.

550
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,240
Those products will move
in the general trade market.

551
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,400
And we are seeing the traction.

552
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,520
I understood.

553
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,560
So this round that you raised,

554
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,840
how much did you raise in
the last round?

555
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,360
- 23 crores.
- 23 crores pre-money.

556
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,640
- Your valuation is very high.
- Correct.

557
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:26,800
I'm interested.

558
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,440
I'm interested too but my
problem is valuation.

559
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,000
[dramatic music]

560
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,600
- Can we take Peyush's offer?
- Please go ahead.

561
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,240
How much balance do you
have in the bank?

562
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,560
Runway of around 2 months.

563
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,280
Whoa.

564
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,520
Just two months?

565
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,200
You had the investor round
in February, right?

566
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,360
Sorry, we have money in
the bank till December.

567
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,520
No, then what happened to the funds?

568
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,440
- If you got 2.5 crores in February.
- Cash flow issue in the business.

569
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,640
You used it all in manufacturing
and inventory.

570
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,840
Your receivables must be
30-40 lakhs.

571
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,120
Yes, we have receivables too.

572
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,200
Do you have receivables of 6 months?

573
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,440
We have approximately
65 days of receivables.

574
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,440
Oh, God.

575
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,480
- One crore is stuck in the
working capital. - One crore.

576
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,040
One crore working capital
and one crore loss.

577
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,560
Look, I was very interested

578
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,760
but now I'm not able to add it up.

579
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,640
You only have the runway
till December.

580
00:34:53,720 --> 00:34:57,120
You won't be able to raise
funds in this market.

581
00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:58,480
More than 8-9 crores.

582
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,880
Unfortunately, I'll step out.

583
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,320
I was about to make an offer
but good I asked this question.

584
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,160
The only reason I'm still interested

585
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,200
is that I am feeling

586
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:15,080
- that your product is fantastic.
- It is.

587
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,640
So I'm betting on the product.

588
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,880
You'll have to work on finance,
inventory management,

589
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,880
- distribution...
- There is a lot of work.

590
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,560
You all are weak in these areas.

591
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,680
Give us two minutes, we'll just
speak to our banker.

592
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,480
You please check.

593
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,720
Let them do a full 30 crore,
round, right?

594
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,880
[suspenseful music]

595
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,960
Wow, you all made a
complete gang-style entry.

596
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,720
[dramatic music]

597
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,480
Namita, I spoke to somebody
who is in our cap table.

598
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:12,720
Yes, down round has challenges.

599
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,720
But as a founder, I'll take it
up with my investors.

600
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,600
Because I know with the support

601
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:20,560
we get with you coming on board

602
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,720
we can succeed.

603
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,800
- Can I give you a counteroffer?
- No.

604
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,720
Not at all?

605
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,360
- That's the only offer you have.
- That's the only offer.

606
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,280
Thank you so much, Namita.

607
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,800
Lovely product.

608
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,360
Excited to work together.

609
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,320
All the best.

610
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,000
Thank you very much, Sharks.

611
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,320
Well done.

612
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,400
She's an entrepreneur.
She's hard-working.

613
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,000
And very number-focused.

614
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,000
Please put your hands together
for Namita Thapar.

615
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:10,880
My day starts at 6:30 am.

616
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,480
I love old Hindi songs, especially
those of Mr. Amitabh Bachchan.

617
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,560
[music playing]

618
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,560
For me, the pursuit of excellence,

619
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,080
giving my 200% is very important.

620
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,720
I juggle a lot of roles
my entire day.

621
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,000
So planning is a very important
element of my life.

622
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,480
Let's get going.

623
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,960
I have 12-13 meetings

624
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,000
which quickly happen in a day.

625
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,480
- Good. Doc, you approved all this?
- Yes.

626
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,160
I just love your packaging.

627
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,800
This is nice, Tanya.

628
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,400
To be successful in business,

629
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,040
customer obsession is very important.

630
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,320
[exhilarating music]

631
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,200
So on different metrics,

632
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,560
we take feedback from doctors.

633
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,920
- Dydrofem is doing well.
- Yes.

634
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,280
How are the results? Good?

635
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,960
With this, you can keep improving,

636
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,880
growing and building your brand.

637
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,360
Right from getting it from
the doctor's clinic

638
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,000
to our warehouse,
the cold chain who's making.

639
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,080
Along with being a Shark, a leader
should be a dolphin also.

640
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,400
Hi. Wow.

641
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,560
A dolphin means

642
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,000
empathetic. A shark has aggression
and a dolphin has empathy.

643
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,880
I'm getting goosebumps.

644
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,160
For 8 years, I'm running a program
called Prerna at Emcure.

645
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:51,720
Where we bring
in speakers for women.

646
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,800
It is a special tailor-made training.

647
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,040
The reality is that working women

648
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,160
trying to manage both work and homes

649
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:01,840
don't take much care of themselves.

650
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,400
It's our responsibility

651
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,760
to use the power of our voices

652
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,760
for things we are passionate about.

653
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,000
[applause]

654
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,720
I feel that
my biggest report card is my kids.

655
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,440
I spend my entire day running
around in office

656
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,240
but when I come home and
spend time with my kids

657
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,320
is the happiest time of my day.

658
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,480
All my stress disappears
in an instant.

659
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,120
[ethereal music]

660
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,800
[inspirational music]

661
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,800
My friend, please give me a tip
where my profit is fixed.

662
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,280
Only risk-takers can make a profit!

663
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,200
- Let me recite.
- Go on!

664
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,920
I'm the stock market's king.

665
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,120
I'm the stock market's king.
Hi, Vineeta Singh!

666
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,080
[laughing]

667
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,280
Namita is a pharma queen.

668
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,680
- Let me turn your portfolio green!
- Bravo!

669
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,040
[laughing]

670
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,200
Don't take the trouble.

671
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,880
Within 25 days your money
will double.

672
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,280
I'll have plenty of money.

673
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,360
Gosh! All the tips are dead
because my stocks are red!

674
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,360
[laughing]

675
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,720
Greetings, Sharks!
My name is Dharmil.

676
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,720
- We are from Ahmedabad.
- Yes, sir!

677
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,920
Sharks, the scene we just enacted

678
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,320
isn't an imaginary scene.

679
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,280
In fact, it's the norm
for every stock trader.

680
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,440
Sharks, the stock market
makes our concepts complex.

681
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,160
If you invest in the market

682
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,880
without learning the tricks,
you could incur a loss.

683
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,080
So we thought of simplifying
this complex problem.

684
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,040
Then what is better than a fun game?

685
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,320
We present to you BULLSPREE!

686
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,520
BULLSPREE is a gaming application

687
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:40,040
Sharks, the best thing about it

688
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,160
we welcomed two lakh
new users on board.

689
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:58,520
the tiny village of Jhumri Telaiya
to the big cities of India.

690
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,480
Will you give us Rs. 75 lakhs

691
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,720
for 1.5% equity of our company

692
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,400
to help us achieve our dream?

693
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:15,880
into fun.

694
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,320
So, Dharmil, Harsh and Divyansh,

695
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,440
your presentation was overpowering.

696
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,560
Ha!
[laughing]

697
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,760
Actually, the mascot is signalling
that he can do it.

698
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,480
We can do it!

699
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,160
Please tell us your story.

700
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,600
I completed
my industrial engineering in 2016.

701
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,840
Then I joined an e-commerce company.

702
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,400
Within 1.5 years,
I was promoted to the CEO's office.

703
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,800
My projects had calibrated nicely.

704
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,680
In fact, I was happy
to start the first round

705
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,520
as the CEO invested a small amount.

706
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,080
- Wow!
- Awesome!

707
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:55,360
Harsh and I met for the first time
as flatmates in Mumbai in 2016.

708
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,760
My meeting with Divyansh is unique.

709
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,920
We met during a train journey.

710
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,360
Jhumri Telaiya is a small town
in Jharkhand.

711
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,640
Wow!

712
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,400
I completed my engineering
from IIT Delhi.

713
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,440
Then I worked in two startups.

714
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,040
- I used to lead a team
of 20-25 people. - Excellent!

715
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,600
That is my experience.

716
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,240
Do you supervise
the development part?

717
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,320
That's true. I do it.

718
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:34,680
What is the tech stack?

719
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,040
We made an app on Flutter
as the front end.

720
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,920
And we have used Node. js
for the back end.

721
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,280
But Flutter can't scale up

722
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,040
if the app gets more complex.

723
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,520
We observed that people prefer
Flutter in the new applications.

724
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:47,920
So we made such a decision.

725
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,120
Sharks, I'm a chartered accountant.

726
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,360
I used to audit private equity
and hedge funds from 2015 to 2018.

727
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,480
Back then Dharmil
and I used to discuss

728
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,560
if we could do something

729
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,040
that combined
the stock market and gaming.

730
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,080
So you're Dream11
for financial stocks. Right?

731
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,160
It's fantasy trading.

732
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:10,600
Not really, Sharks.

733
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,240
Basically, Sharks, we're an
experiential learning platform.

734
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,960
It helps one become well-versed
and build confidence.

735
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,920
Is your game only about equity or it
has futures and options trading too?

736
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,160
I can explain the gaming journey.

737
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,800
Please give us a product demo.

738
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,000
- Sure!
- Alright!

739
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,120
with different entry fees.

740
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,280
Sharks, it's simple.

741
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,760
We want to give you the adrenaline
rush of the real stock market.

742
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,960
- Good idea! Are other people
also doing it? - Yes!

743
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,120
[tense music]

744
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,280
Dharmil, there are many
such companies like StockGro.

745
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:21,960
There are innumerable companies
like yours.

746
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:22,960
Right, sir!

747
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,880
But the difference is that
the positioning of StockGro

748
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,400
is more of social investing.

749
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,800
The adrenalin rush is missing
because only virtual money is used.

750
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,960
But we are positioning it well.

751
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,520
That's because you are
charging money for an entry.

752
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,480
- Yes!
- Yes!

753
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,240
How much money did they raise?

754
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,880
They raised around
32 million dollars recently.

755
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,960
How will you compete with them?

756
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,360
Our monthly revenue in
February 2022 was only Rs. 1 lakh.

757
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,880
But let me share
the last month's revenue.

758
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,040
Please tell us quickly.

759
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,360
we're growing at a 100% rate.

760
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,480
What trick did you use?

761
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,720
We had tie-ups
with a number of colleges

762
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,280
through events and campus
ambassador programmes.

763
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,880
We made collaborations with
the influencers of financial markets

764
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,520
and gaming.

765
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,200
What is your marketing cost?

766
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,400
78% of people are using
our app as per D60 retention.

767
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,560
- D60 retention is 78%?
- D60!

768
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:59,880
D60 is calculated on the 60th day.

769
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,560
- This is what you mean?
- The sixtieth day.

770
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,120
- It isn't rolling retention, right?
- On the 60th day. - Yes!

771
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,760
That's incredible.
It isn't possible.

772
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,560
But people can use different apps
to play as per your concept.

773
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,840
The major focus of our competitors
is on games.

774
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,480
Our larger vision
for a customer of Bullspree

775
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,320
is to make them knowledgeable

776
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,560
and graduate

777
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,640
within two years.

778
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:31,680
Let's be clear.
I don't think you're building

779
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,240
Bullspree University
or a Stock Market University.

780
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,520
If Dream11 decide
to teach cricket to everyone,

781
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,480
it's the wrong direction.

782
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,440
Please tell me quickly.

783
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,040
How are you different from StockGro?

784
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,560
There's no difference.

785
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,760
Currently, StockGro provides chats

786
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,600
and makes you
play virtual portfolios.

787
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,760
It can easily be copied.
Both of you will copy each other.

788
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,840
[suspenseful music]

789
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,920
Ma'am, the market is big

790
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,600
and we can parallelly
exist with StockGro.

791
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,320
What is StockGro's revenue
per month?

792
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:17,920
We don't know.

793
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,080
Investors become confident
when the founders

794
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,240
have the numbers
at their fingertips.

795
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,240
My second point,
if you want to scale up,

796
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,800
you must possess
a unique differentiator.

797
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,560
I can't see that
and for that reason, I'm out.

798
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,880
Firstly, I feel that your
differentiation is your solid team.

799
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,480
You three are hungry entrepreneurs.

800
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,960
I find investing in winner-takes-all
markets

801
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,760
like gaming a bit scary

802
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,320
because the first
one or two big companies

803
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,160
eat the small companies like sharks

804
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,800
in CAC which is
Customer Acquisition War.

805
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,760
That's why I wouldn't want
to invest in it.

806
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,280
Generally, I assess three things.

807
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,320
Team, timing and TAM.

808
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,640
Your TAM is very good
and the team is also nice.

809
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,480
But your timing is wrong.

810
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:01,360
Our application
is the best even now.

811
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,960
The competition is good.
And a funded player

812
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,240
- is better because they help
in growing the market. - Right!

813
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,640
You three are talented
and I'm confident about you.

814
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,200
I'll invest in you

815
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,960
and I'll offer you the same deal
that you got the last time.

816
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,760
Rs. 26 lakhs for 1% equity which is
equal to your old valuation.

817
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,920
Peyush, can you join him?

818
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,520
But I have a few questions.

819
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,160
How much money
do you have right now?

820
00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:39,800
Right now we have
a runway of five months.

821
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,240
In the next 36 months,
if I get 2 crore users,

822
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,320
I'll earn Rs. 1 crore revenue daily

823
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,160
which could give Rs. 200 crores
yearly revenue.

824
00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:55,000
My friend, I think

825
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,080
it's no use giving a debt.

826
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,680
Let's come back
to your last valuation.

827
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,560
Both of us will divide it 50:50.

828
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,520
37.5 lakhs each!

829
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:07,760
Yes!

830
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,480
So Aman and Peyush's final offer

831
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,160
My dear, seeing the risk, you should
not rethink. What are you up to?

832
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,760
A mere 2.5% is the dilution.
Why are you hesitant?

833
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,880
[dramatic music]

834
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:38,600
Sharks, let's disrupt together!
The deal is done!

835
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:46,880
Sure!

836
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:48,880
Woo-hoo!

837
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,720
Superb! Congratulations!

838
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,720
[triumphant music]

839
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,720
'Aman, in today's Shark Xperience
segment, '

840
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:01,880
'Kunal from Mumbai
has a question for you.'

841
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:04,600
'Your style is cool
and inspired by films.'

842
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,520
'Are you inspired
by a film in real life?'

843
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,680
Hi, Kunal! Nice question. Yes!

