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Fuck.

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<i>You're in withdrawal, right?</i>

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<i>How long have you been</i>
<i>off your medication?</i>

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Maybe you should put off your detox.

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<i>What's your goal, Ms. Konrad?</i>

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What are you hoping to find out?

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Why my sister was murdered.

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<i>You'll have a long conversation.</i>
<i>An interview.</i>

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<i>And while you're at it,</i>
<i>get a DNA sample. Correct?</i>

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THE TRAP

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THE INTERVIEW

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Broken.

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Fakir.

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Fakir?

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Yeah.

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Some crazy fakir.

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Shoot.

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Broken.

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This one's broken too.

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<i>- Hello?</i>
- Hey. There's a problem with my car, and…

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- Eddie, not on the road!
- Did you have an accident? Are you okay?

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<i>No accident. Some idiots slashed my tires.</i>

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<i>Sweetie, come here, please.</i>

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<i>- They're all broken!</i>
<i>- Yes, they're all broken.</i>

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<i>Anyway, I'll need at least an hour</i>
<i>to get to you.</i>

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But the interview is today.

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<i>Exactly.</i>

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- I wanted to help with the catering.
<i>- We agreed you'd come Wednesday.</i>

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<i>Yes, but Rudow said it would be better--</i>

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Rudow.

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Lisa, your last panic attack
was only a week ago.

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Yuma, please get your car fixed. I'll pay.

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And I really look forward
to seeing you on Wednesday.

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Take care.

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Okay.

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My question is, what are you thinking?

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First, you send Pia to me.

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Then I find out
you know my therapist pretty well…

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<i>- I told you.</i>
- And now…

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It was years ago,
but my wife would divorce me.

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<i>And now you're playing my assistant</i>
<i>off against me because--</i>

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Because you aren't all that well.

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<i>Seriously. I'm worried about you.</i>

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- Worried? So you lie to me?
- <i>I'm not your enemy.</i>

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And you use Yuma
so she can report back to you. But…

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<i>Lisa.</i>

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Call off the interview.

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- What?
<i>- Call off the interview.</i>

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It's just too risky.

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No. I'm terminating our contract
effective immediately.

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<i>Come on, that's nonsense.</i>

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<i>- For breach of trust.</i>
- Lisa! I'll be with you in half an hour.

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No. I'll let you know if and when
I want to see you again.

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<i>Oh, come on. Lisa…</i>

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Fuck.

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Fuck!

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MUTE

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<i>First you prepare the room.</i>

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<i>Place your drink</i>
<i>where you want to be sitting.</i>

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I told him.

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Norbert…

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Robert Lenzen. Hello.

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We made such good time, we're early.

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I hope you like flowers.

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Not all women like cut flowers.

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<i>Breathe in, breathe out.</i>

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<i>Twenty-two, twenty-three…</i>

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<i>Don't move back. Don't run away.</i>

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- My colleague, Jannik Lucic.
<i>- Twenty-four, twenty-five…</i>

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He jumped at the chance to photograph you.

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He won't keep us long.
I'm sure it'll be quick.

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Hello.

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Nice to meet you.

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<i>Calm…</i>

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There was no mention of photos.

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I'm sorry.

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The culture desk must just have assumed.

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Please come in.

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Thank you for the invite.

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Please hang your coats.

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This way.

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What a beautiful house.

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Great view.

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How long have you lived here?

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Don't you want to answer?
I don't mind waiting.

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The only calls I get on my landline
are from survey companies

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and my health insurer.

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Coffee?

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Tea? Water?

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Ms. Konrad,
could we take the photos first?

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Yes, of course.

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Makes it a little prettier.

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Right…

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Okay.

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I pictured you completely differently.

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How?

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Older.

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Crazier. Not as pretty.

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Really?

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Could you try catching the light
with your eyes?

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Yeah, great.

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- Look straight ahead.
<i>- Into the camera. Straight ahead.</i>

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<i>- Now your hands.</i>
<i>- Anna?</i>

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<i>- Why were you at your sister's so late?</i>
<i>- Look to the side.</i>

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<i>I'm coming in!</i>

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<i>What time were you at your sister's?</i>

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Thanks.

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I'll go put the reflector in the car.

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Would you like a coffee now?

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- I'll let my colleague in.
- I'll get it.

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Lisa?

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Hello?

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What's that about?

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I had a few galley proofs printed.

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And the last bottles
of Château de Vaudieu--

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You can shred them right away.

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Leave.

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Well, I'm already here.

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Wouldn't it be better if I were there too?

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Isn't he much too early?
I thought he was coming at four.

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- And whose is the other car?
- The photographer's. Now leave.

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Photos too…

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- Lisa, we really need to talk--
- Not now or here. Go.

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- Lisa, call off the interview.
- Now.

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Rudow.

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- What?
- Hello.

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Tax audit?

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What do you mean, "an anonymous tip"?

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Elli, calm down.
I'll be there in 20 minutes.

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One of yours?

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Yes.

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I painted for a while, years ago.

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Do you like it?

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It's impressive.

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I hope it's okay
that I had a little look around.

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Where is your dog?

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Excuse me?

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"Lisa Konrad, born 1987,

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winner of the German Literature Prize,
lives with her dog near Munich."

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The blurb on all your books.

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Oh, the dog.

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He's upstairs.

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He's not good with strangers.

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I'm a big dog lover.

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I'm thinking about getting one
for my daughter.

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So your ex-wife has to look after it?

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You've done your research too.

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Do you have it?

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<i>No protective gestures, like crossed…</i>

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<i>…crossed arms,</i>
<i>crossed legs, or hidden hands.</i>

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<i>Stay in a power pose at all times.</i>

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<i>A minimal amount of saliva</i>
<i>will be sufficient to compare the DNA.</i>

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Please, eat something.
So it doesn't go to waste.

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I'll eat later, thanks.

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Yes, please.

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First, I'd like to thank you
for giving me this interview.

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I greatly admire your work.

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Really?

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Because to be honest,
I have been wondering

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why you asked me of all people.

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It was important to me
to have someone outside literary circles

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look at my new book.

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But you've never given
a one-on-one interview.

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Why now?

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It's at my publishers request.

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They think it's time.

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In that case…

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Shall we?

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So my colleague can get going.

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<i>As a general rule…</i>

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<i>Clear statements.</i>

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<i>No hesitation, no trembling.</i>

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<i>Look your counterpart in the eye.</i>

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<i>Observe their every reaction</i>
<i>and analyze it.</i>

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Ms. Konrad.

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How are you?

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Well. I'm doing well.

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You've had great success
with your previous novels.

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Why switch genres and write a crime novel?

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I wanted something new. A challenge.

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<i>DNA can also be recovered</i>
<i>from a cigarette filter.</i>

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I'm sorry, I'm really trying.

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But culture isn't my field.

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Would you have a cigarette for me?

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I don't mind if you smoke.

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I smoke too much.

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Let me know if you'd like another.

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Jannik, I think we've got enough photos.

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You lead a very secluded life.

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Where do you find inspiration?

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I read newspapers, spend a lot of time on…

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I…

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I… usually research by…

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For this book, I…

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read a lot about the psyche of…

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I…

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You've been writing under this pseudonym
for ten years now.

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Before this,
your first book as Lisa Konrad…

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LIGHT AND SOUNDS

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…did you publish under a different name?

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And here, in the background. Is that…

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A dog? A deer?

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Excuse me.

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Do you hear that?

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Hear what?

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What… What was the question?

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The day after tomorrow,
2:30 p.m. at check-in?

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Okay.

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Thank you, Ms. Konrad.
It was a pleasure meeting you.

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I…

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I'll walk you to the door.

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Bye.

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<i>Water…</i>

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You look pale.

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If you need a break,
we can stop whenever you like.

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No, we haven't really even started yet.

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What exactly is your illness?

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What do you mean?

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When did you last leave your house?

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Ten years ago.

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What happened back then?

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How does it feel to be housebound?

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Not leaving the house isn't difficult.

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And it becomes easier by the day.

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Aren't you lonely?

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I'd appreciate it

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if we could focus on questions
about my book, as previously agreed.

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Sorry. I didn't mean to overstep.

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Good.

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Are you in a relationship?

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Back to the book.

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Your main character, Sophie…

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She's a woman who breaks down
after the death of her younger sister.

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She feels partly responsible…

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because…

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Because she arrived late.

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How were you able to get inside the mind
of such a broken character?

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Sophie isn't broken.

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She's traumatized.

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She almost broke down
after the death of her sister.

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But only almost.

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I read that quite differently.

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It's pretty crazy to think

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that the killer
would accept her telepathic invitation.

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You think so?

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One character I had hoped would save her
was the detective.

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As I was reading,
I felt that between him and Sophie…

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a kind of love story was developing?

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Are you going to answer this time?

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Excuse me for a moment.

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- Norbert, I…
<i>- Christensen here.</i>

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<i>I couldn't reach you on your cell.</i>

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You had asked me
to look into the Anna Wilking case.

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You said that was beyond your scope.

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<i>In any case… There haven't been</i>
<i>any new developments since 2015.</i>

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Except that the DNA swabs
that were taken are unusable.

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Including those
from your sister's clothes.

00:24:03.750 --> 00:24:04.750 align:center
What?

00:24:05.666 --> 00:24:08.208 align:center
<i>The exhibits were destroyed</i>
<i>after the swabs were taken.</i>

00:24:08.291 --> 00:24:11.541 align:center
<i>It affected a lot of cases and was,</i>
<i>how shall I put this,</i>

00:24:11.625 --> 00:24:13.750 align:center
<i>not made public.</i>

00:24:33.833 --> 00:24:38.708 align:center
UNABLE TO CONNECT TO WI-FI

00:24:54.041 --> 00:24:58.541 align:center
<i>Because all the DNA samples taken</i>
<i>in Bavaria between 2014 and 2016</i>

00:24:58.625 --> 00:25:01.875 align:center
<i>with swab kits from a certain manufacturer</i>
<i>were contaminated.</i>

00:25:04.166 --> 00:25:07.958 align:center
The swab kits were contaminated
at the factory due to improper handling.

00:25:08.041 --> 00:25:11.916 align:center
All DNA samples taken with those kits
are inadmissible as evidence.

00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.166 align:center
<i>Including those in Anna Wilking's case.</i>

00:25:14.250 --> 00:25:15.666 align:center
<i>That means…</i>

00:25:15.750 --> 00:25:19.000 align:center
There's no way to do a comparison?

00:25:20.125 --> 00:25:22.125 align:center
I'm afraid not, Ms. Konrad.

00:25:22.208 --> 00:25:23.291 align:center
I see.

00:25:24.375 --> 00:25:26.041 align:center
<i>I need to get to my appointment.</i>

00:26:03.625 --> 00:26:06.041 align:center
I took the opportunity
while you were on the phone.

00:26:12.791 --> 00:26:14.916 align:center
Could you bring a glass with you, please?

00:26:31.458 --> 00:26:32.458 align:center
Thank you.

00:26:48.666 --> 00:26:49.791 align:center
You know what?

00:26:56.250 --> 00:27:00.875 align:center
I will answer all your questions
if I'll get to ask one for each of yours.

00:27:03.875 --> 00:27:05.083 align:center
That sounds fair.

00:27:06.541 --> 00:27:07.541 align:center
All right.

00:27:09.041 --> 00:27:10.041 align:center
So.

00:27:11.958 --> 00:27:13.166 align:center
Ask away.

00:27:17.041 --> 00:27:19.625 align:center
<i>Start with innocuous questions</i>
<i>to find out…</i>

00:27:19.708 --> 00:27:22.375 align:center
<i>…how the other person reacts</i>
<i>when they're relaxed.</i>

00:27:23.083 --> 00:27:24.125 align:center
How old are you?

00:27:24.708 --> 00:27:27.166 align:center
- What's your guess?
- I'm asking the question.

00:27:28.333 --> 00:27:29.625 align:center
I'm 51.

00:27:30.666 --> 00:27:31.666 align:center
My turn.

00:27:33.833 --> 00:27:38.541 align:center
How can you describe relationships
when you don't have any?

00:27:39.250 --> 00:27:40.500 align:center
I'm a writer.

00:27:40.583 --> 00:27:43.000 align:center
And I haven't always lived
the way I do now.

00:27:45.833 --> 00:27:47.083 align:center
Do you have siblings?

00:27:47.166 --> 00:27:48.333 align:center
Yup.

00:27:48.416 --> 00:27:51.541 align:center
An older brother.
He lives with his family in the States.

00:27:53.708 --> 00:27:54.750 align:center
You?

00:27:54.833 --> 00:27:56.916 align:center
A sister three years younger than me.

00:28:04.791 --> 00:28:07.000 align:center
Do you get along with your parents?

00:28:07.083 --> 00:28:08.083 align:center
Yes.

00:28:09.125 --> 00:28:10.541 align:center
Or rather, I did.

00:28:10.625 --> 00:28:15.375 align:center
My mother died 12 years ago,
and my father six months ago, at 78.

00:28:16.958 --> 00:28:18.833 align:center
Do you miss being in a relationship?

00:28:19.458 --> 00:28:20.625 align:center
Sometimes.

00:28:21.958 --> 00:28:24.750 align:center
Other than the daughter
you might give a dog to,

00:28:24.833 --> 00:28:26.458 align:center
do you have other children?

00:28:28.708 --> 00:28:29.708 align:center
No.

00:28:34.875 --> 00:28:37.083 align:center
Would you have liked a family?

00:28:38.250 --> 00:28:39.416 align:center
A husband? Children?

00:28:41.250 --> 00:28:44.208 align:center
- Is this how you imagined your life?
- It's not your turn.

00:28:44.291 --> 00:28:46.750 align:center
You're so strict, Ms. Konrad.

00:28:46.833 --> 00:28:48.625 align:center
Why did your marriage fail?

00:28:52.291 --> 00:28:54.125 align:center
I don't know. Do you miss sex?

00:28:58.208 --> 00:28:59.208 align:center
Not much.

00:29:01.041 --> 00:29:02.875 align:center
Why did your marriage fail?

00:29:02.958 --> 00:29:06.875 align:center
Because I work too much, I guess.
You'd have to ask my ex-wife.

00:29:09.166 --> 00:29:11.541 align:center
Do you get along with your parents?

00:29:16.541 --> 00:29:17.541 align:center
Yes.

00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:22.541 align:center
Have you ever cheated?

00:29:24.541 --> 00:29:25.541 align:center
No.

00:29:26.958 --> 00:29:29.666 align:center
Do you get along with your sister?

00:29:32.750 --> 00:29:36.458 align:center
I'm fascinated by the sister dynamic
in your book.

00:29:36.541 --> 00:29:38.916 align:center
You told me earlier you have a sister,

00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:41.625 align:center
so I thought
maybe that's why you described

00:29:41.708 --> 00:29:44.375 align:center
the sisters' relationship
with such empathy.

00:29:46.541 --> 00:29:47.875 align:center
You picked up on that.

00:29:49.166 --> 00:29:50.166 align:center
Yes.

00:29:50.791 --> 00:29:52.666 align:center
We get along very well.

00:29:53.583 --> 00:29:55.541 align:center
Do you think you're a good father?

00:29:55.625 --> 00:29:56.625 align:center
Yes.

00:29:57.125 --> 00:29:58.125 align:center
I do.

00:29:59.666 --> 00:30:02.500 align:center
Are you inspired by real events?

00:30:02.583 --> 00:30:03.541 align:center
Yes.

00:30:04.041 --> 00:30:05.791 align:center
Have you ever raped a woman?

00:30:05.875 --> 00:30:06.833 align:center
What?

00:30:06.916 --> 00:30:09.000 align:center
- Have you?
- What question is that?

00:30:09.083 --> 00:30:10.875 align:center
- Just say no if--
- No!

00:30:37.833 --> 00:30:40.625 align:center
I don't like the direction
this conversation has taken.

00:30:42.125 --> 00:30:44.750 align:center
If I upset you, I'm sorry.

00:30:48.250 --> 00:30:49.333 align:center
I'm sorry.

00:31:37.875 --> 00:31:40.125 align:center
What's your biggest regret?

00:31:43.666 --> 00:31:44.791 align:center
I don't know.

00:31:46.291 --> 00:31:49.541 align:center
I guess the things
that led to my marriage breaking down.

00:31:49.625 --> 00:31:51.791 align:center
And you? What do you regret?

00:31:55.666 --> 00:31:57.291 align:center
That I was too late.

00:31:58.875 --> 00:32:01.208 align:center
That I couldn't save my sister.

00:32:03.625 --> 00:32:05.875 align:center
Do you consider yourself a good person?

00:32:07.166 --> 00:32:09.083 align:center
What a question. Yes.

00:32:12.500 --> 00:32:13.791 align:center
Or maybe not…

00:32:17.208 --> 00:32:18.750 align:center
I try hard every day.

00:32:26.916 --> 00:32:27.875 align:center
What else…

00:32:29.416 --> 00:32:30.333 align:center
Right.

00:32:31.708 --> 00:32:35.333 align:center
A critic once wrote
that your characters were strong,

00:32:35.416 --> 00:32:38.500 align:center
but your plots lacked in impact.

00:32:39.250 --> 00:32:40.416 align:center
What's the question?

00:32:40.500 --> 00:32:43.833 align:center
I had far more problems
with the characters in your book

00:32:43.916 --> 00:32:45.791 align:center
than with the story.

00:32:45.875 --> 00:32:50.833 align:center
The murder victim is portrayed
as a stereotypical ideal.

00:32:50.916 --> 00:32:53.500 align:center
Why did you choose
such a clichéd character

00:32:53.583 --> 00:32:55.916 align:center
over the nuanced characters
you're known for?

00:32:58.500 --> 00:33:01.125 align:center
To me, the character isn't a…

00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:03.250 align:center
cliché.

00:33:03.333 --> 00:33:04.375 align:center
No?

00:33:05.291 --> 00:33:07.208 align:center
Anna, as she's called in the novel?

00:33:08.208 --> 00:33:13.500 align:center
Don't you think Anna
is an idealized version of a young woman?

00:33:14.291 --> 00:33:15.916 align:center
Beautiful and smart,

00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:19.000 align:center
funny, and so incredibly selfless.

00:33:19.500 --> 00:33:20.958 align:center
I get the feeling that

00:33:21.041 --> 00:33:24.500 align:center
beneath Anna's facade
is a calculating, envious know-it-all,

00:33:25.291 --> 00:33:28.750 align:center
constantly telling people what to do
and what not to do.

00:33:28.833 --> 00:33:31.833 align:center
In your book, you present this
as helpful and positive.

00:33:31.916 --> 00:33:35.666 align:center
But in reality, someone like that
is incredibly annoying.

00:33:35.750 --> 00:33:38.583 align:center
Assuming people like that even exist.

00:33:39.291 --> 00:33:40.958 align:center
What's your take on that?

00:33:42.708 --> 00:33:43.833 align:center
I know…

00:33:44.916 --> 00:33:46.791 align:center
that such people exist.

00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:51.708 align:center
People like your sister?

00:33:51.791 --> 00:33:54.166 align:center
I get the sense
we're talking about your sister.

00:33:55.250 --> 00:33:57.375 align:center
Can you take a photo of us?

00:33:57.958 --> 00:33:59.666 align:center
Sure. What's in it for me?

00:33:59.750 --> 00:34:02.541 align:center
A kiss. From my sister.

00:34:03.125 --> 00:34:04.250 align:center
With tongue.

00:34:05.666 --> 00:34:06.666 align:center
<i>Ouch!</i>

00:34:09.416 --> 00:34:13.208 align:center
Could it be that you're glorifying
the character of Anna

00:34:13.291 --> 00:34:15.583 align:center
to compensate for something yourself?

00:34:15.666 --> 00:34:20.041 align:center
I see Anna as a manipulative narcissist.

00:34:20.625 --> 00:34:23.291 align:center
<i>It's mean to rip the heads off flowers.</i>

00:34:23.375 --> 00:34:25.666 align:center
<i>If you pick them, they die too soon.</i>

00:34:25.750 --> 00:34:28.500 align:center
<i>I'll never pick flowers for Mom again.</i>
<i>Promise.</i>

00:34:32.666 --> 00:34:34.458 align:center
That was mean.

00:34:43.916 --> 00:34:45.083 align:center
On the other hand,

00:34:45.166 --> 00:34:47.791 align:center
I found the description
of the murder gripping.

00:34:49.125 --> 00:34:52.500 align:center
The chapter
where Sophie finds her younger sister.

00:34:52.583 --> 00:34:54.833 align:center
That's painful to read.

00:34:55.750 --> 00:34:57.208 align:center
It really gets to you.

00:35:00.458 --> 00:35:01.541 align:center
Ms. Konrad,

00:35:02.041 --> 00:35:05.208 align:center
I hope you don't get the impression
that I don't like your book.

00:35:05.291 --> 00:35:07.000 align:center
For much of the book,

00:35:07.083 --> 00:35:10.500 align:center
I really connected
with the main character, Sophie.

00:35:12.291 --> 00:35:13.291 align:center
Sorry.

00:35:22.416 --> 00:35:23.416 align:center
But…

00:35:24.083 --> 00:35:25.750 align:center
I did wonder…

00:35:26.875 --> 00:35:31.041 align:center
why you didn't have your main character
die in the end.

00:35:31.625 --> 00:35:34.125 align:center
That would've been realistic.

00:35:34.208 --> 00:35:36.166 align:center
And dramatic at the same time.

00:35:36.250 --> 00:35:39.583 align:center
A crime fiction… classic.

00:35:39.666 --> 00:35:43.416 align:center
Suicide, maybe? Out of grief? Or guilt?

00:35:46.875 --> 00:35:48.625 align:center
Are you afraid of me?

00:35:50.125 --> 00:35:51.833 align:center
What did you just say?

00:35:51.916 --> 00:35:53.666 align:center
I didn't say anything.

00:35:53.750 --> 00:35:56.333 align:center
What surprised me most
was the lack of a resolution.

00:35:56.416 --> 00:36:01.125 align:center
Although I have to say,
that's an interesting literary device.

00:36:01.708 --> 00:36:04.666 align:center
All the way through, I kept thinking

00:36:04.750 --> 00:36:07.416 align:center
that the killer might not even exist.

00:36:07.500 --> 00:36:11.250 align:center
And I kept thinking that in the end,

00:36:11.333 --> 00:36:16.916 align:center
the seemingly devastated Sophie
would turn out to be her sister's killer.

00:36:17.625 --> 00:36:20.666 align:center
She was the only one with a motive.

00:36:30.166 --> 00:36:31.250 align:center
Stand up.

00:36:32.666 --> 00:36:34.208 align:center
Stand up!

00:36:40.416 --> 00:36:42.208 align:center
Empty your pockets.

00:36:52.500 --> 00:36:53.875 align:center
Turn around.

00:36:54.625 --> 00:36:56.000 align:center
Show me your waistband.

00:37:03.416 --> 00:37:04.333 align:center
Your bag.

00:37:05.083 --> 00:37:06.375 align:center
Slowly.

00:37:21.375 --> 00:37:22.500 align:center
Stop.

00:37:24.333 --> 00:37:25.833 align:center
Slide the phone over.

00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:37.083 align:center
Sit down.

00:37:39.083 --> 00:37:40.291 align:center
Sit down!

00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.958 align:center
<i>Create stress by asking endless questions.</i>

00:37:47.041 --> 00:37:49.041 align:center
<i>Banal, provocative questions.</i>

00:37:49.125 --> 00:37:50.250 align:center
<i>Threaten. Deceive.</i>

00:37:50.333 --> 00:37:52.833 align:center
<i>Provoke. Repeat. Create contradictions.</i>

00:37:52.916 --> 00:37:55.833 align:center
<i>Punish every deviation.</i>
<i>Create stress. Wear them down.</i>

00:37:55.916 --> 00:37:58.250 align:center
<i>Create stress. Wear them down.</i>

00:38:01.958 --> 00:38:03.500 align:center
I have questions for you.

00:38:03.583 --> 00:38:05.833 align:center
And I expect honest answers.

00:38:06.333 --> 00:38:07.708 align:center
Do you understand?

00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:10.458 align:center
Understood?

00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:13.000 align:center
Yes.

00:38:15.375 --> 00:38:16.583 align:center
How old are you?

00:38:18.791 --> 00:38:19.625 align:center
51.

00:38:19.708 --> 00:38:21.125 align:center
- Where did you grow up?
- Munich.

00:38:21.208 --> 00:38:23.000 align:center
- How old was your dad when he died?
- 78.

00:38:23.083 --> 00:38:24.416 align:center
Do you have siblings?

00:38:24.500 --> 00:38:26.750 align:center
- An older brother.
- Do you have children?

00:38:28.375 --> 00:38:31.333 align:center
- You already asked all this…
- Do you have children?

00:38:33.458 --> 00:38:34.625 align:center
I have a daughter.

00:38:35.458 --> 00:38:38.125 align:center
- Do you enjoy hurting other people?
- No.

00:38:38.208 --> 00:38:39.958 align:center
- Ever tortured an animal?
- No.

00:38:40.041 --> 00:38:41.541 align:center
Do you prefer dogs or cats?

00:38:42.166 --> 00:38:44.583 align:center
- Dogs.
- Do you think this is a game?

00:38:51.375 --> 00:38:54.416 align:center
I know the answer
to every question I've asked.

00:38:55.458 --> 00:38:56.375 align:center
Why ask them then?

00:38:56.458 --> 00:38:59.291 align:center
Because I want to hear the answers
from you!

00:38:59.375 --> 00:39:00.875 align:center
Answers to what?

00:39:04.208 --> 00:39:05.666 align:center
How old is your daughter?

00:39:05.750 --> 00:39:06.958 align:center
She's 12.

00:39:07.041 --> 00:39:08.375 align:center
- What grade?
- Seventh.

00:39:08.458 --> 00:39:10.333 align:center
- Her favorite subject?
- Math.

00:39:10.416 --> 00:39:11.750 align:center
- Her horse's name?
- Lucy.

00:39:11.833 --> 00:39:13.541 align:center
- Are you a good dad?
- Yes.

00:39:13.625 --> 00:39:15.625 align:center
Your daughter's best friend's name?

00:39:16.958 --> 00:39:18.791 align:center
- Annika Mehler!
- It's… Annika Mehler.

00:39:18.875 --> 00:39:20.708 align:center
- Have you ever killed anyone?
- No.

00:39:20.791 --> 00:39:22.625 align:center
- Is there anything you'd kill for?
- No.

00:39:22.708 --> 00:39:24.625 align:center
- Would you kill for your daughter?
- Yes.

00:39:24.708 --> 00:39:28.666 align:center
- But you just said you wouldn't kill--
- I know what I just said!

00:39:28.750 --> 00:39:32.250 align:center
Of course I'd do anything
to protect my child.

00:39:37.875 --> 00:39:39.708 align:center
You don't like this situation.

00:39:40.541 --> 00:39:41.541 align:center
No.

00:39:42.083 --> 00:39:43.958 align:center
You can end this anytime.

00:39:45.625 --> 00:39:46.625 align:center
How?

00:39:52.333 --> 00:39:54.041 align:center
I want a confession.

00:39:55.708 --> 00:39:57.791 align:center
Then tell me what to confess to.

00:39:57.875 --> 00:39:59.916 align:center
You don't know what I'm talking about?

00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.125 align:center
- I have no idea.
- I find that hard to believe…

00:40:19.291 --> 00:40:20.458 align:center
Stand up.

00:40:23.083 --> 00:40:24.208 align:center
Stand up!

00:40:44.708 --> 00:40:45.666 align:center
Turn away.

00:40:52.250 --> 00:40:53.375 align:center
Start walking.

00:40:54.666 --> 00:40:56.291 align:center
Out!

00:41:04.083 --> 00:41:05.291 align:center
Go right.

00:41:09.916 --> 00:41:11.000 align:center
Left.

00:41:19.375 --> 00:41:20.666 align:center
Clean yourself up.

00:41:25.708 --> 00:41:26.791 align:center
May I?

00:41:45.500 --> 00:41:46.791 align:center
Let me go.

00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:54.875 align:center
Why did you ask about my dog?

00:41:57.125 --> 00:41:59.125 align:center
Why did you ask about my dog?

00:41:59.208 --> 00:42:01.500 align:center
No reason. Just making small talk.

00:42:01.583 --> 00:42:04.541 align:center
Why did you ask about my dog?

00:42:04.625 --> 00:42:07.875 align:center
Every blurb on your books
says you have a dog.

00:42:07.958 --> 00:42:10.000 align:center
It's perfectly normal to ask.

00:42:18.916 --> 00:42:20.458 align:center
Do you have children?

00:42:21.250 --> 00:42:22.250 align:center
Please…

00:42:22.333 --> 00:42:23.375 align:center
Do you have children?

00:42:23.458 --> 00:42:25.625 align:center
Please leave my daughter out of this.

00:42:26.958 --> 00:42:28.708 align:center
What do you want?

00:42:29.291 --> 00:42:30.541 align:center
You know what I want.

00:42:30.625 --> 00:42:32.416 align:center
- A confession.
- Yes, a confession.

00:42:32.500 --> 00:42:34.375 align:center
- But I don't know--
- I'll help you!

00:42:34.458 --> 00:42:36.125 align:center
Where did you live ten years ago?

00:42:39.291 --> 00:42:41.291 align:center
- Ten years ago?
- Ten years ago.

00:42:42.875 --> 00:42:44.833 align:center
In Munich. It…

00:42:44.916 --> 00:42:46.833 align:center
It was my last year in Munich.

00:42:48.083 --> 00:42:50.083 align:center
Where did you meet Anna Wilking?

00:42:54.416 --> 00:42:55.875 align:center
Who is that?

00:43:00.125 --> 00:43:03.541 align:center
Where were you on July 5, 2015?

00:43:05.958 --> 00:43:07.916 align:center
- How am I supposed to know that?
- Think.

00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:10.583 align:center
- I don't know.
- Why did you kill my sister?

00:43:11.166 --> 00:43:12.041 align:center
I didn't--

00:43:43.125 --> 00:43:44.625 align:center
If you confess,

00:43:45.375 --> 00:43:48.333 align:center
I promise that I'll let you go.

00:43:50.541 --> 00:43:52.291 align:center
I have nothing to confess.

00:43:54.958 --> 00:43:56.541 align:center
You're not thinking clearly.

00:43:58.250 --> 00:44:00.250 align:center
You have two options.

00:44:01.791 --> 00:44:03.250 align:center
Option one.

00:44:04.125 --> 00:44:06.458 align:center
You tell me the truth, and I let you go.

00:44:07.375 --> 00:44:08.625 align:center
Option two.

00:44:11.875 --> 00:44:13.166 align:center
I shoot you.

00:48:10.166 --> 00:48:15.166 align:center
Subtitle translation by:
Susanne Creak, Diana Renker