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Fuck.

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<i>You're in withdrawal, right?</i>

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<i>How long have you been</i>
<i>off your medication?</i>

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Maybe you should put off your detox.

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<i>What's your goal, Ms. Konrad?</i>

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What are you hoping to find out?

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Why my sister was murdered.

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<i>You'll have a long conversation.</i>
<i>An interview.</i>

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<i>And while you're at it,</i>
<i>get a DNA sample. Correct?</i>

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THE TRAP

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THE INTERVIEW

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Broken.

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Fakir.

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Fakir?

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Yeah.

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Some crazy fakir.

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Shoot.

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Broken.

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This one's broken too.

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<i>- Hello?</i>
- Hey. There's a problem with my car, and…

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- Eddie, not on the road!
- Did you have an accident? Are you okay?

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<i>No accident. Some idiots slashed my tires.</i>

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<i>Sweetie, come here, please.</i>

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<i>- They're all broken!</i>
<i>- Yes, they're all broken.</i>

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<i>Anyway, I'll need at least an hour</i>
<i>to get to you.</i>

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But the interview is today.

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<i>Exactly.</i>

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- I wanted to help with the catering.
<i>- We agreed you'd come Wednesday.</i>

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<i>Yes, but Rudow said it would be better--</i>

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Rudow.

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Lisa, your last panic attack
was only a week ago.

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Yuma, please get your car fixed. I'll pay.

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And I really look forward
to seeing you on Wednesday.

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Take care.

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Okay.

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My question is, what are you thinking?

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First, you send Pia to me.

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Then I find out
you know my therapist pretty well…

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<i>- I told you.</i>
- And now…

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It was years ago,
but my wife would divorce me.

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<i>And now you're playing my assistant</i>
<i>off against me because--</i>

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Because you aren't all that well.

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<i>Seriously. I'm worried about you.</i>

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- Worried? So you lie to me?
- <i>I'm not your enemy.</i>

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And you use Yuma
so she can report back to you. But…

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<i>Lisa.</i>

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Call off the interview.

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- What?
<i>- Call off the interview.</i>

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It's just too risky.

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No. I'm terminating our contract
effective immediately.

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<i>Come on, that's nonsense.</i>

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<i>- For breach of trust.</i>
- Lisa! I'll be with you in half an hour.

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No. I'll let you know if and when
I want to see you again.

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<i>Oh, come on. Lisa…</i>

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Fuck.

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Fuck!

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MUTE

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<i>First you prepare the room.</i>

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<i>Place your drink</i>
<i>where you want to be sitting.</i>

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I told him.

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Norbert…

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Robert Lenzen. Hello.

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We made such good time, we're early.

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I hope you like flowers.

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Not all women like cut flowers.

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<i>Breathe in, breathe out.</i>

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<i>Twenty-two, twenty-three…</i>

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<i>Don't move back. Don't run away.</i>

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- My colleague, Jannik Lucic.
<i>- Twenty-four, twenty-five…</i>

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He jumped at the chance to photograph you.

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He won't keep us long.
I'm sure it'll be quick.

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Hello.

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Nice to meet you.

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<i>Calm…</i>

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There was no mention of photos.

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I'm sorry.

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The culture desk must just have assumed.

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Please come in.

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Thank you for the invite.

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Please hang your coats.

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This way.

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What a beautiful house.

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Great view.

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How long have you lived here?

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Don't you want to answer?
I don't mind waiting.

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The only calls I get on my landline
are from survey companies

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and my health insurer.

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Coffee?

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Tea? Water?

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Ms. Konrad,
could we take the photos first?

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Yes, of course.

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Makes it a little prettier.

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Right…

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Okay.

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I pictured you completely differently.

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How?

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Older.

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Crazier. Not as pretty.

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Really?

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Could you try catching the light
with your eyes?

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Yeah, great.

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- Look straight ahead.
<i>- Into the camera. Straight ahead.</i>

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<i>- Now your hands.</i>
<i>- Anna?</i>

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<i>- Why were you at your sister's so late?</i>
<i>- Look to the side.</i>

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<i>I'm coming in!</i>

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<i>What time were you at your sister's?</i>

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Thanks.

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I'll go put the reflector in the car.

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Would you like a coffee now?

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- I'll let my colleague in.
- I'll get it.

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Lisa?

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Hello?

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What's that about?

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I had a few galley proofs printed.

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And the last bottles
of Château de Vaudieu--

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You can shred them right away.

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Leave.

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Well, I'm already here.

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Wouldn't it be better if I were there too?

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Isn't he much too early?
I thought he was coming at four.

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- And whose is the other car?
- The photographer's. Now leave.

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Photos too…

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- Lisa, we really need to talk--
- Not now or here. Go.

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- Lisa, call off the interview.
- Now.

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Rudow.

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- What?
- Hello.

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Tax audit?

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What do you mean, "an anonymous tip"?

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Elli, calm down.
I'll be there in 20 minutes.

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One of yours?

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Yes.

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I painted for a while, years ago.

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Do you like it?

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It's impressive.

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I hope it's okay
that I had a little look around.

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Where is your dog?

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Excuse me?

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"Lisa Konrad, born 1987,

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winner of the German Literature Prize,
lives with her dog near Munich."

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The blurb on all your books.

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Oh, the dog.

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He's upstairs.

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He's not good with strangers.

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I'm a big dog lover.

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I'm thinking about getting one
for my daughter.

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So your ex-wife has to look after it?

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You've done your research too.

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Do you have it?

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<i>No protective gestures, like crossed…</i>

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<i>…crossed arms,</i>
<i>crossed legs, or hidden hands.</i>

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<i>Stay in a power pose at all times.</i>

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<i>A minimal amount of saliva</i>
<i>will be sufficient to compare the DNA.</i>

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Please, eat something.
So it doesn't go to waste.

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I'll eat later, thanks.

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Yes, please.

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First, I'd like to thank you
for giving me this interview.

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I greatly admire your work.

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Really?

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Because to be honest,
I have been wondering

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why you asked me of all people.

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It was important to me
to have someone outside literary circles

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look at my new book.

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But you've never given
a one-on-one interview.

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Why now?

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It's at my publishers request.

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They think it's time.

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In that case…

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Shall we?

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So my colleague can get going.

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<i>As a general rule…</i>

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<i>Clear statements.</i>

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<i>No hesitation, no trembling.</i>

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<i>Look your counterpart in the eye.</i>

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<i>Observe their every reaction</i>
<i>and analyze it.</i>

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Ms. Konrad.

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How are you?

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Well. I'm doing well.

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You've had great success
with your previous novels.

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Why switch genres and write a crime novel?

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I wanted something new. A challenge.

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<i>DNA can also be recovered</i>
<i>from a cigarette filter.</i>

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I'm sorry, I'm really trying.

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But culture isn't my field.

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Would you have a cigarette for me?

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I don't mind if you smoke.

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I smoke too much.

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Let me know if you'd like another.

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Jannik, I think we've got enough photos.

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You lead a very secluded life.

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Where do you find inspiration?

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I read newspapers, spend a lot of time on…

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I…

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I… usually research by…

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For this book, I…

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read a lot about the psyche of…

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I…

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You've been writing under this pseudonym
for ten years now.

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Before this,
your first book as Lisa Konrad…

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LIGHT AND SOUNDS

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…did you publish under a different name?

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And here, in the background. Is that…

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A dog? A deer?

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Excuse me.

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Do you hear that?

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Hear what?

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What… What was the question?

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The day after tomorrow,
2:30 p.m. at check-in?

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Okay.

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Thank you, Ms. Konrad.
It was a pleasure meeting you.

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I…

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I'll walk you to the door.

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Bye.

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<i>Water…</i>

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You look pale.

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If you need a break,
we can stop whenever you like.

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No, we haven't really even started yet.

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What exactly is your illness?

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What do you mean?

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When did you last leave your house?

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Ten years ago.

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What happened back then?

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How does it feel to be housebound?

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Not leaving the house isn't difficult.

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And it becomes easier by the day.

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Aren't you lonely?

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I'd appreciate it

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if we could focus on questions
about my book, as previously agreed.

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Sorry. I didn't mean to overstep.

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Good.

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Are you in a relationship?

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Back to the book.

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Your main character, Sophie…

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She's a woman who breaks down
after the death of her younger sister.

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She feels partly responsible…

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because…

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Because she arrived late.

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How were you able to get inside the mind
of such a broken character?

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Sophie isn't broken.

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She's traumatized.

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She almost broke down
after the death of her sister.

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But only almost.

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I read that quite differently.

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It's pretty crazy to think

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that the killer
would accept her telepathic invitation.

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You think so?

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One character I had hoped would save her
was the detective.

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As I was reading,
I felt that between him and Sophie…

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a kind of love story was developing?

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Are you going to answer this time?

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Excuse me for a moment.

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- Norbert, I…
<i>- Christensen here.</i>

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<i>I couldn't reach you on your cell.</i>

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You had asked me
to look into the Anna Wilking case.

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You said that was beyond your scope.

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<i>In any case… There haven't been</i>
<i>any new developments since 2015.</i>

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Except that the DNA swabs
that were taken are unusable.

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Including those
from your sister's clothes.

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What?

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<i>The exhibits were destroyed</i>
<i>after the swabs were taken.</i>

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<i>It affected a lot of cases and was,</i>
<i>how shall I put this,</i>

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<i>not made public.</i>

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UNABLE TO CONNECT TO WI-FI

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<i>Because all the DNA samples taken</i>
<i>in Bavaria between 2014 and 2016</i>

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<i>with swab kits from a certain manufacturer</i>
<i>were contaminated.</i>

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The swab kits were contaminated
at the factory due to improper handling.

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All DNA samples taken with those kits
are inadmissible as evidence.

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<i>Including those in Anna Wilking's case.</i>

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<i>That means…</i>

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There's no way to do a comparison?

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I'm afraid not, Ms. Konrad.

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I see.

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<i>I need to get to my appointment.</i>

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I took the opportunity
while you were on the phone.

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Could you bring a glass with you, please?

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Thank you.

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You know what?

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I will answer all your questions
if I'll get to ask one for each of yours.

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That sounds fair.

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All right.

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So.

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Ask away.

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<i>Start with innocuous questions</i>
<i>to find out…</i>

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<i>…how the other person reacts</i>
<i>when they're relaxed.</i>

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How old are you?

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- What's your guess?
- I'm asking the question.

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I'm 51.

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My turn.

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How can you describe relationships
when you don't have any?

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I'm a writer.

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And I haven't always lived
the way I do now.

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Do you have siblings?

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Yup.

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An older brother.
He lives with his family in the States.

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You?

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A sister three years younger than me.

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Do you get along with your parents?

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Yes.

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Or rather, I did.

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My mother died 12 years ago,
and my father six months ago, at 78.

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Do you miss being in a relationship?

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Sometimes.

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Other than the daughter
you might give a dog to,

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do you have other children?

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No.

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Would you have liked a family?

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A husband? Children?

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- Is this how you imagined your life?
- It's not your turn.

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You're so strict, Ms. Konrad.

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Why did your marriage fail?

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I don't know. Do you miss sex?

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Not much.

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Why did your marriage fail?

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Because I work too much, I guess.
You'd have to ask my ex-wife.

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Do you get along with your parents?

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Yes.

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Have you ever cheated?

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No.

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Do you get along with your sister?

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I'm fascinated by the sister dynamic
in your book.

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You told me earlier you have a sister,

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so I thought
maybe that's why you described

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the sisters' relationship
with such empathy.

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You picked up on that.

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Yes.

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We get along very well.

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Do you think you're a good father?

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Yes.

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I do.

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Are you inspired by real events?

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Yes.

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Have you ever raped a woman?

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What?

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- Have you?
- What question is that?

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- Just say no if--
- No!

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I don't like the direction
this conversation has taken.

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If I upset you, I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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What's your biggest regret?

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I don't know.

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I guess the things
that led to my marriage breaking down.

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And you? What do you regret?

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That I was too late.

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That I couldn't save my sister.

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Do you consider yourself a good person?

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What a question. Yes.

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Or maybe not…

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I try hard every day.

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What else…

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Right.

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A critic once wrote
that your characters were strong,

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but your plots lacked in impact.

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What's the question?

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I had far more problems
with the characters in your book

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than with the story.

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The murder victim is portrayed
as a stereotypical ideal.

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Why did you choose
such a clichéd character

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over the nuanced characters
you're known for?

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To me, the character isn't a…

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cliché.

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No?

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Anna, as she's called in the novel?

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Don't you think Anna
is an idealized version of a young woman?

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Beautiful and smart,

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funny, and so incredibly selfless.

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I get the feeling that

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beneath Anna's facade
is a calculating, envious know-it-all,

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constantly telling people what to do
and what not to do.

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In your book, you present this
as helpful and positive.

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But in reality, someone like that
is incredibly annoying.

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Assuming people like that even exist.

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What's your take on that?

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I know…

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that such people exist.

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People like your sister?

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I get the sense
we're talking about your sister.

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Can you take a photo of us?

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Sure. What's in it for me?

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A kiss. From my sister.

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With tongue.

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<i>Ouch!</i>

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Could it be that you're glorifying
the character of Anna

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to compensate for something yourself?

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I see Anna as a manipulative narcissist.

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<i>It's mean to rip the heads off flowers.</i>

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<i>If you pick them, they die too soon.</i>

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<i>I'll never pick flowers for Mom again.</i>
<i>Promise.</i>

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That was mean.

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On the other hand,

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I found the description
of the murder gripping.

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The chapter
where Sophie finds her younger sister.

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That's painful to read.

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It really gets to you.

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Ms. Konrad,

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I hope you don't get the impression
that I don't like your book.

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For much of the book,

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I really connected
with the main character, Sophie.

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Sorry.

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But…

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I did wonder…

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why you didn't have your main character
die in the end.

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That would've been realistic.

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And dramatic at the same time.

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A crime fiction… classic.

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Suicide, maybe? Out of grief? Or guilt?

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Are you afraid of me?

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What did you just say?

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I didn't say anything.

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What surprised me most
was the lack of a resolution.

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Although I have to say,
that's an interesting literary device.

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All the way through, I kept thinking

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that the killer might not even exist.

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And I kept thinking that in the end,

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the seemingly devastated Sophie
would turn out to be her sister's killer.

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She was the only one with a motive.

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Stand up.

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Stand up!

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Empty your pockets.

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Turn around.

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Show me your waistband.

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Your bag.

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Slowly.

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Stop.

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Slide the phone over.

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Sit down.

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Sit down!

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<i>Create stress by asking endless questions.</i>

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<i>Banal, provocative questions.</i>

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<i>Threaten. Deceive.</i>

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<i>Provoke. Repeat. Create contradictions.</i>

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<i>Punish every deviation.</i>
<i>Create stress. Wear them down.</i>

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<i>Create stress. Wear them down.</i>

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I have questions for you.

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And I expect honest answers.

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Do you understand?

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Understood?

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Yes.

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How old are you?

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51.

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- Where did you grow up?
- Munich.

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- How old was your dad when he died?
- 78.

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Do you have siblings?

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- An older brother.
- Do you have children?

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- You already asked all this…
- Do you have children?

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I have a daughter.

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- Do you enjoy hurting other people?
- No.

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- Ever tortured an animal?
- No.

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Do you prefer dogs or cats?

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- Dogs.
- Do you think this is a game?

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I know the answer
to every question I've asked.

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Why ask them then?

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Because I want to hear the answers
from you!

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Answers to what?

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How old is your daughter?

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She's 12.

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- What grade?
- Seventh.

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- Her favorite subject?
- Math.

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- Her horse's name?
- Lucy.

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- Are you a good dad?
- Yes.

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Your daughter's best friend's name?

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- Annika Mehler!
- It's… Annika Mehler.

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- Have you ever killed anyone?
- No.

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- Is there anything you'd kill for?
- No.

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- Would you kill for your daughter?
- Yes.

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- But you just said you wouldn't kill--
- I know what I just said!

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Of course I'd do anything
to protect my child.

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You don't like this situation.

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No.

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You can end this anytime.

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How?

39:52.333 --> 39:54.041
I want a confession.

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Then tell me what to confess to.

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You don't know what I'm talking about?

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- I have no idea.
- I find that hard to believe…

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Stand up.

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Stand up!

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Turn away.

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Start walking.

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Out!

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Go right.

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Left.

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Clean yourself up.

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May I?

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Let me go.

41:53.000 --> 41:54.875
Why did you ask about my dog?

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Why did you ask about my dog?

41:59.208 --> 42:01.500
No reason. Just making small talk.

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Why did you ask about my dog?

42:04.625 --> 42:07.875
Every blurb on your books
says you have a dog.

42:07.958 --> 42:10.000
It's perfectly normal to ask.

42:18.916 --> 42:20.458
Do you have children?

42:21.250 --> 42:22.250
Please…

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Do you have children?

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Please leave my daughter out of this.

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What do you want?

42:29.291 --> 42:30.541
You know what I want.

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- A confession.
- Yes, a confession.

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- But I don't know--
- I'll help you!

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Where did you live ten years ago?

42:39.291 --> 42:41.291
- Ten years ago?
- Ten years ago.

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In Munich. It…

42:44.916 --> 42:46.833
It was my last year in Munich.

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Where did you meet Anna Wilking?

42:54.416 --> 42:55.875
Who is that?

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Where were you on July 5, 2015?

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- How am I supposed to know that?
- Think.

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- I don't know.
- Why did you kill my sister?

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I didn't--

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If you confess,

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I promise that I'll let you go.

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I have nothing to confess.

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You're not thinking clearly.

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You have two options.

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Option one.

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You tell me the truth, and I let you go.

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Option two.

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I shoot you.

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Subtitle translation by:
Susanne Creak, Diana Renker