1 00:00:45,745 --> 00:00:46,945 Thank you. 2 00:00:48,425 --> 00:00:49,825 Emily Maitlis, BBC. 3 00:00:54,465 --> 00:00:55,665 Sir, I wondered if I could just... 4 00:00:55,745 --> 00:00:56,665 Fuck off. 5 00:01:08,665 --> 00:01:09,905 Oh God. 6 00:01:18,385 --> 00:01:19,585 This way. 7 00:01:19,665 --> 00:01:20,625 Yes. 8 00:01:26,505 --> 00:01:28,265 Emily Maitlis, BBC. 9 00:01:28,585 --> 00:01:30,985 Ah, may I have your mobile phone, please? 10 00:01:52,985 --> 00:01:55,505 Would you mind spelling your surname? 11 00:01:56,065 --> 00:01:58,025 Uh, M- A-I- T-L... 12 00:01:58,105 --> 00:01:59,705 M- A... 13 00:02:00,665 --> 00:02:02,065 - Where the hell is Emily? - Don’t know. 14 00:02:02,145 --> 00:02:03,505 No mobile, remember? 15 00:02:08,465 --> 00:02:11,105 - Your Royal Highness. - Ah, all set? 16 00:02:11,145 --> 00:02:12,985 - Yep, pretty much. - Excellent. 17 00:02:13,825 --> 00:02:15,385 I'm actually in a bit of a... 18 00:02:15,545 --> 00:02:18,465 When your audience with His Royal Highness is finished, 19 00:02:18,705 --> 00:02:20,145 just return to the lobby, 20 00:02:20,225 --> 00:02:21,665 and a member of the household 21 00:02:21,705 --> 00:02:23,705 will retrieve your mobile for you. 22 00:02:23,865 --> 00:02:24,985 - Shall we? - Excellent. 23 00:02:25,105 --> 00:02:26,665 Got all the angles covered, I see. 24 00:02:26,705 --> 00:02:27,545 Yes. 25 00:02:27,665 --> 00:02:28,985 It's like you're making a movie. 26 00:02:29,705 --> 00:02:31,985 Funnily enough, um, we use this, 27 00:02:32,065 --> 00:02:34,505 uh, as the cinema room for the staff. 28 00:02:34,665 --> 00:02:38,425 - Uh, it's Titanic tonight. - It is. 29 00:02:38,825 --> 00:02:43,225 I always found that film rather over long, as it were. 30 00:02:57,185 --> 00:02:59,705 And this is the head camera, I believe. 31 00:02:59,785 --> 00:03:03,345 Look at that. What a bit of kit. You presumably, uh, 32 00:03:03,425 --> 00:03:05,225 - know what all these buttons do? - I hope so. 33 00:03:05,305 --> 00:03:06,505 'Cause you're the cameraman. 34 00:03:06,585 --> 00:03:08,545 - ... zoom function, focus. - Yeah. 35 00:03:08,625 --> 00:03:10,305 Make you like your best in 4K. 36 00:03:10,385 --> 00:03:11,745 Yeah, well, yeah. 37 00:03:11,865 --> 00:03:13,065 Don't get too close. 38 00:03:14,905 --> 00:03:16,545 - Go straight in. - Thank you. 39 00:03:23,025 --> 00:03:24,385 I'm so sorry I'm late. 40 00:03:30,185 --> 00:03:32,345 - I need the loo. - It’s straight through there. 41 00:03:32,425 --> 00:03:33,665 Left at the chintz. 42 00:03:38,465 --> 00:03:39,625 Oh. 43 00:03:40,785 --> 00:03:41,745 Oh. 44 00:04:02,425 --> 00:04:03,905 [clock ticking[ 45 00:04:08,145 --> 00:04:09,585 Your Royal Highness... 46 00:04:11,625 --> 00:04:13,385 we've come to Buckingham Palace 47 00:04:13,465 --> 00:04:16,945 in highly unusual circumstances. 48 00:04:17,465 --> 00:04:21,985 Normally, we'd be discussing your work, your duty... 49 00:05:03,545 --> 00:05:05,905 Last thing I remember 50 00:05:05,985 --> 00:05:08,785 Fergie was on top of the table dancing the bloody tango 51 00:05:08,865 --> 00:05:10,345 with a plastic rose in her mouth. 52 00:05:12,585 --> 00:05:13,985 Very good, Sir. 53 00:05:14,345 --> 00:05:17,745 Ah, right, here we go. 54 00:05:25,025 --> 00:05:27,425 Ah, missed the last putt. Bugger it. 55 00:05:27,585 --> 00:05:28,825 Happy businessmen. Job done. 56 00:05:28,905 --> 00:05:30,985 - Thanks. - May I have a quick word, Sir? 57 00:05:31,065 --> 00:05:32,425 Okay, spit it out. 58 00:05:32,545 --> 00:05:35,065 Ed Perkins got a call from the Daily Mail this morning. 59 00:05:35,425 --> 00:05:37,185 They're investigating a story involving a woman 60 00:05:37,265 --> 00:05:39,185 by the name of Virginia Giuffre, 61 00:05:39,305 --> 00:05:41,105 formerly Virginia Roberts. 62 00:05:41,905 --> 00:05:44,825 She claims you slept with her without her consent. 63 00:05:45,265 --> 00:05:47,345 - What are you talking about? - The Mail have a photograph 64 00:05:47,425 --> 00:05:50,065 of you and the... quite youngish woman 65 00:05:50,145 --> 00:05:52,265 standing on what appears to be the upstairs landing 66 00:05:52,345 --> 00:05:53,625 of a London house, 67 00:05:53,705 --> 00:05:56,825 which she claims belongs to Ghislaine Maxwell. 68 00:05:56,905 --> 00:05:58,145 Photograph? What photograph? 69 00:05:58,225 --> 00:05:59,585 Well, a Kodak photograph, 70 00:05:59,665 --> 00:06:02,105 um, said to have been taken by Jeffrey Epstein. 71 00:06:02,185 --> 00:06:04,425 Uh, Ms. Maxwell is also in the picture. 72 00:06:04,945 --> 00:06:06,185 What, you saying you've seen it? 73 00:06:06,265 --> 00:06:09,065 Uh, no, Sir. The deputy editor of the Daily Mail has seen it. 74 00:06:09,145 --> 00:06:10,985 Oh. When's all this meant to have happened? 75 00:06:11,065 --> 00:06:12,785 Uh, March 2001, Sir. 76 00:06:12,865 --> 00:06:14,065 Oh, for God's sake, Alastair. 77 00:06:14,145 --> 00:06:16,865 How, how am I meant to remember that? 78 00:06:17,225 --> 00:06:19,185 People take their photograph of me all the bloody time. 79 00:06:19,265 --> 00:06:21,425 Yes. It's not exactly... 80 00:06:21,865 --> 00:06:25,025 it's slightly more intimate than your average snapshot. 81 00:06:25,105 --> 00:06:26,985 What, I got my hands on her boobs or something? 82 00:06:27,385 --> 00:06:28,825 No, Sir, her bare waist. 83 00:06:31,865 --> 00:06:33,665 God, I bloody love golf. 84 00:06:35,745 --> 00:06:37,705 No, nothing. Uh, anyway, you’ll sort it out. 85 00:06:37,785 --> 00:06:40,145 - Yes, of course, Sir. - Likely a load of nonsense. 86 00:06:40,385 --> 00:06:41,905 Just thought I'd make you aware 87 00:06:41,985 --> 00:06:43,785 in case Her Majesty asks about it. 88 00:06:44,505 --> 00:06:46,825 You're not suggesting The Mail are gonna print this shit, 89 00:06:46,905 --> 00:06:48,585 - are you? - I'm afraid so, Sir. 90 00:06:48,665 --> 00:06:49,785 Ah. 91 00:06:50,545 --> 00:06:53,705 Well, obviously, I have no recollection of this woman, 92 00:06:53,785 --> 00:06:55,345 - blah, blah, blah. - Right you are, Sir. 93 00:06:56,225 --> 00:06:57,665 Well, fuck off, then. 94 00:06:57,745 --> 00:06:58,945 Hm. 95 00:07:03,865 --> 00:07:06,865 Welsh lamb on a bed of greens with some red wine jus, Sir. 96 00:07:06,945 --> 00:07:08,945 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Thank you, Sir. 97 00:07:37,065 --> 00:07:39,545 A letter is heading its way to Brussels 98 00:07:39,625 --> 00:07:41,705 from the British Prime Minister, Theresa May 99 00:07:41,785 --> 00:07:44,385 to ask for a Brexit delay. 100 00:07:44,465 --> 00:07:46,265 It's now just a week to go... 101 00:07:46,345 --> 00:07:47,705 ... till the UK is scheduled... 102 00:07:51,305 --> 00:07:53,265 Can you believe the Tories? 103 00:07:53,705 --> 00:07:58,225 The ERG are literally killing Theresa May’s Brexit deal. 104 00:07:59,345 --> 00:08:02,585 - No. Fruit first. - I have a tummy ache. 105 00:08:02,665 --> 00:08:05,265 A real tummy ache or I've got double maths tummy ache? 106 00:08:05,345 --> 00:08:07,105 It’s real. 107 00:08:09,465 --> 00:08:11,025 My God, this is a shit show. 108 00:08:11,385 --> 00:08:13,105 - Mum! - What? 109 00:08:13,305 --> 00:08:16,385 No, eat a banana and see. 110 00:08:16,865 --> 00:08:18,305 - Are you hungry, darling? - Yeah. 111 00:08:18,385 --> 00:08:19,745 No, I was talking to Moods. 112 00:08:19,825 --> 00:08:21,145 Oh, but guess what? 113 00:08:21,225 --> 00:08:25,105 The ERG are destroying Theresa May’s EU withdrawal. 114 00:08:25,185 --> 00:08:27,985 I mean, there's literally no one in charge anymore. 115 00:08:28,065 --> 00:08:29,985 - I love you too. Football kit? - In my bag. 116 00:08:30,065 --> 00:08:31,385 Can you imagine what Boris is thinking? 117 00:08:31,465 --> 00:08:33,625 First, he shafts David Cameron over Brexit. 118 00:08:33,705 --> 00:08:35,785 Then he shafts Theresa May. 119 00:08:35,865 --> 00:08:38,465 A hundred percent he's sitting there right now, 120 00:08:38,545 --> 00:08:40,865 like eating a, you know, bacon bap 121 00:08:40,945 --> 00:08:43,985 writing his Tory leadership acceptance speech. 122 00:08:44,425 --> 00:08:46,705 It’s like he's scripted the whole thing. 123 00:08:46,745 --> 00:08:48,865 I mean, seriously, you can't make this stuff up. 124 00:08:48,945 --> 00:08:52,225 - It’s absolute... - Go for a run, darling. Please. 125 00:08:52,305 --> 00:08:54,505 Katya Adler in Brussels. 126 00:08:54,585 --> 00:08:57,425 Now, Neil, you have some other stories from our news desk. 127 00:08:57,625 --> 00:08:59,745 Israeli troops have shot... 128 00:08:59,825 --> 00:09:02,185 Barry Gardiner, you talk about sovereignty, 129 00:09:02,265 --> 00:09:05,585 you talk about controlling immigration, 130 00:09:05,625 --> 00:09:07,585 but how are any of those things real 131 00:09:07,625 --> 00:09:10,265 when parliament can't even agree 132 00:09:10,345 --> 00:09:11,865 on an EU withdrawal? 133 00:09:11,945 --> 00:09:14,625 Emily, we accept the results of the referendum. 134 00:09:14,705 --> 00:09:16,065 You accept that you are leaving Europe? 135 00:09:16,145 --> 00:09:17,985 We accept the results of the referendum, 136 00:09:18,065 --> 00:09:20,745 and we intend to set out our vision for Brexit 137 00:09:20,825 --> 00:09:22,225 - at the next election. - Okay. 138 00:09:22,305 --> 00:09:24,985 So, if a general election is called next week, 139 00:09:25,065 --> 00:09:27,385 what will be on your manifesto? 140 00:09:27,465 --> 00:09:30,705 What Brexit vision will be on your manifesto then? 141 00:09:30,745 --> 00:09:33,225 To negotiate the deal that we have set out in that... 142 00:09:33,305 --> 00:09:34,625 And that’s going on the leaflet? 143 00:09:34,705 --> 00:09:36,345 - Well, we will... - Standby VT. 144 00:09:36,425 --> 00:09:39,185 ...decide our manifesto position as we normally do. 145 00:09:39,265 --> 00:09:40,825 It's a Democratic party. 146 00:09:40,865 --> 00:09:43,825 It's not made up by one person on Newsnight, as you know. 147 00:09:43,865 --> 00:09:45,305 - It’s not made up at all... - But what we have said... 148 00:09:45,385 --> 00:09:47,945 I mean, people are literally pulling their hair out tonight. 149 00:09:47,985 --> 00:09:49,225 - Peddlers of chaos. - I'm sorry, 150 00:09:49,305 --> 00:09:51,585 - I didn't interrupt you. - Okay, I'm moving on. 151 00:09:51,985 --> 00:09:54,505 An investigation into thousands of teenagers 152 00:09:54,585 --> 00:09:56,865 in unregulated care homes is underway. 153 00:09:56,985 --> 00:09:59,465 Newsnight will take a look at several cases. 154 00:11:01,985 --> 00:11:03,185 - Hi. - Fuck. 155 00:11:04,185 --> 00:11:05,545 Hi. Sorry. 156 00:11:05,745 --> 00:11:07,145 Um, dog wouldn’t settle 157 00:11:07,225 --> 00:11:09,305 so I played one of his relaxation tapes. 158 00:11:09,385 --> 00:11:11,305 Yeah, no, I must have, er... 159 00:11:11,425 --> 00:11:12,825 I was watching Newsnight. 160 00:11:13,065 --> 00:11:14,465 Did you see the Brexit interview? 161 00:11:15,785 --> 00:11:17,465 Oh, you didn't see it, did you? 162 00:11:17,745 --> 00:11:19,385 I might have nodded off. 163 00:11:20,865 --> 00:11:22,625 Oh. I need a drink. 164 00:11:22,705 --> 00:11:24,785 You've already got a... drink. 165 00:11:30,345 --> 00:11:31,425 What’s up? 166 00:11:33,465 --> 00:11:35,065 We've got a complaint. 167 00:11:35,145 --> 00:11:36,345 About the interview? 168 00:11:36,745 --> 00:11:37,825 Yeah. 169 00:11:38,065 --> 00:11:39,665 Have you been shooting your mouth off again? 170 00:11:39,745 --> 00:11:42,865 No, I just got a bit... stroppy. 171 00:11:42,945 --> 00:11:44,265 Bit stroppy? 172 00:11:46,865 --> 00:11:48,825 Well, I might have done an eye roll. 173 00:11:50,385 --> 00:11:51,785 What? Like...? 174 00:11:51,905 --> 00:11:53,065 Like, you know, urgh. 175 00:11:53,145 --> 00:11:54,505 You did that on camera? 176 00:11:55,225 --> 00:11:56,705 - No, no. - It’s the BBC, babe. 177 00:11:56,785 --> 00:11:58,305 - No, it was smaller than that. - Don’t roll your eyes. 178 00:11:58,385 --> 00:12:00,505 Yeah, literally it was the tiniest eye roll. 179 00:12:00,625 --> 00:12:03,865 Oh, come on, fuck it, you know... if John Humphrys 180 00:12:03,945 --> 00:12:05,345 or Jeremy Paxman had done that, 181 00:12:05,425 --> 00:12:07,185 do you think they'd have got a complaint? 182 00:12:07,905 --> 00:12:09,185 Of course they wouldn't. 183 00:12:09,705 --> 00:12:12,985 Everyone would be like, oh, you know, good old Humphrys. 184 00:12:13,065 --> 00:12:17,065 Good old Paxo... telling it how it is, you know. 185 00:12:18,945 --> 00:12:20,305 It'll blow over. 186 00:12:23,305 --> 00:12:25,225 Moody pooed in the kitchen again. 187 00:12:25,865 --> 00:12:27,625 You have to go in the garden with him, Mark. 188 00:12:27,705 --> 00:12:29,825 He hates pooing on his own. 189 00:12:29,905 --> 00:12:31,385 Yeah, well, that's just weird. 190 00:12:31,545 --> 00:12:33,425 - Well, he's high maintenance. - What? 191 00:12:33,505 --> 00:12:35,785 A member of this household is high maintenance? 192 00:12:38,105 --> 00:12:39,265 I'm going up. 193 00:12:40,345 --> 00:12:41,425 It'll be fine. 194 00:12:47,705 --> 00:12:48,985 Oh. 195 00:13:02,665 --> 00:13:03,945 Hmm. 196 00:13:07,145 --> 00:13:09,545 All I'm thinking about is your shit. 197 00:13:32,585 --> 00:13:34,665 Morning, morning. Sorry, I'm late. 198 00:13:35,025 --> 00:13:36,945 Okay, can we all... 199 00:13:37,305 --> 00:13:38,625 - Hello, Stew. - Yeah. 200 00:13:38,705 --> 00:13:40,265 - Jake. - Sorry, Esme. 201 00:13:40,345 --> 00:13:41,625 Right. 202 00:13:42,025 --> 00:13:45,345 So, tonight Boris's people are talking to Sam 203 00:13:45,425 --> 00:13:47,265 - about a possible sit down. - Oh, bollocks. 204 00:13:47,345 --> 00:13:48,465 What do they really want? 205 00:13:48,545 --> 00:13:50,105 Show us they're not scared of the BBC. 206 00:13:50,185 --> 00:13:52,385 You mean they don't want us to say they never come on. 207 00:13:52,465 --> 00:13:53,705 It's a holding pattern. It’ll never happen. 208 00:13:53,785 --> 00:13:55,425 - Jake, you with us? - Sorry, yeah. 209 00:13:55,505 --> 00:13:57,785 Right. So, we'll go with the rumours 210 00:13:57,865 --> 00:14:01,065 of Theresa May's resignation and Trump and Mueller and... 211 00:14:01,145 --> 00:14:04,625 The legalisation of same sex marriage in Taiwan. 212 00:14:04,785 --> 00:14:07,345 Good luck finding the first Asian gay couple who want 213 00:14:07,425 --> 00:14:09,905 to stay up till 5:00 AM Taiwan time to talk to Newsnight. 214 00:14:09,985 --> 00:14:11,465 Alright, but anything but Brexit, please. 215 00:14:11,545 --> 00:14:12,385 What else? 216 00:14:12,465 --> 00:14:15,545 I had the most amazing call from Prince Andrew's PR team 217 00:14:15,625 --> 00:14:18,025 asking if we'd like to interview him about Pitch@Palace. 218 00:14:18,105 --> 00:14:19,265 What’s Pitch@Palace? 219 00:14:19,345 --> 00:14:21,865 Dragons Den with cucumber sandwiches. 220 00:14:21,945 --> 00:14:24,665 - You're not selling it. - Uh, it's better than that. 221 00:14:24,985 --> 00:14:26,745 Young entrepreneurs pitch their ideas 222 00:14:26,825 --> 00:14:28,065 to established entrepreneurs 223 00:14:28,145 --> 00:14:30,585 at these like get- togethers at the... palace. 224 00:14:31,065 --> 00:14:32,665 Pitch@Pa... it's a networking thing. 225 00:14:32,745 --> 00:14:34,025 Right, why, why is a senior royal 226 00:14:34,105 --> 00:14:35,705 doing get- togethers with entrepreneurs? 227 00:14:35,785 --> 00:14:37,745 He lost Trade Envoy back in whenever it... 228 00:14:37,825 --> 00:14:39,465 - Uh, 2011. - That's right. 229 00:14:39,545 --> 00:14:41,345 When he was caught staying with that paedo, 230 00:14:41,425 --> 00:14:43,425 Jeffrey Epstein, in New York. 231 00:14:43,545 --> 00:14:45,425 That photo in Central Park. 232 00:14:45,505 --> 00:14:46,905 I can see why you're a top journalist. 233 00:14:46,985 --> 00:14:47,985 Fuck you so much. 234 00:14:48,065 --> 00:14:49,145 So, is Epstein still in New York? 235 00:14:49,225 --> 00:14:50,665 Uh, I think so. Yep. Yep. 236 00:14:50,745 --> 00:14:51,905 And Andy's clear of all that, is he? 237 00:14:51,985 --> 00:14:54,585 Well, yeah. Apart from that pic in The Mail on Sunday of him 238 00:14:54,665 --> 00:14:56,465 with his hand around some girl's waist. 239 00:14:56,545 --> 00:14:58,305 Ugh. Virginia Giuffre. 240 00:14:58,385 --> 00:14:59,745 She's one of Epstein's victims, right? 241 00:14:59,825 --> 00:15:01,665 Well, if she was, she's come out fighting. 242 00:15:01,745 --> 00:15:04,345 Yeah, this was at Ghislaine Maxwell's apartment. 243 00:15:04,425 --> 00:15:06,025 Apparently, Epstein took the photo. 244 00:15:06,145 --> 00:15:07,345 What happened to that photo? 245 00:15:07,425 --> 00:15:08,385 Oh, Palace denied it. 246 00:15:08,465 --> 00:15:09,945 Press said, of course, Your Majesty. 247 00:15:10,105 --> 00:15:11,465 Why did no one follow up? 248 00:15:12,705 --> 00:15:14,265 Don't ask me. I was still watching Blue Peter. 249 00:15:14,345 --> 00:15:15,425 Here's one I abused earlier. 250 00:15:15,505 --> 00:15:17,785 No, seriously. Why didn't we investigate? 251 00:15:17,865 --> 00:15:19,425 Oh, darling, you were here. 252 00:15:20,265 --> 00:15:21,385 Plus, the Beeb doesn't do Royals, 253 00:15:21,465 --> 00:15:23,065 not since Bashir’s Diana interview. 254 00:15:23,225 --> 00:15:24,665 More trouble than it was worth. 255 00:15:24,825 --> 00:15:26,585 So, am I checking this out or not? 256 00:15:26,665 --> 00:15:28,265 No. I want you to focus on Brexit 257 00:15:28,345 --> 00:15:29,625 and the Tory leadership race. 258 00:15:29,705 --> 00:15:32,385 You know, we could put Epstein on the table... 259 00:15:33,625 --> 00:15:35,385 see what Andrew's people say. 260 00:15:38,705 --> 00:15:40,825 Fine. Ask. But they'll say no. 261 00:15:41,105 --> 00:15:42,425 I can make anybody say yes. 262 00:15:42,505 --> 00:15:43,905 Why does that sound scary? 263 00:15:43,985 --> 00:15:45,305 Next. 264 00:15:46,265 --> 00:15:48,065 I'm having a baby. 265 00:15:48,305 --> 00:15:50,025 - Oh. Congratulations. - Hey. 266 00:15:50,105 --> 00:15:51,425 Congratulations, Stewart. 267 00:15:51,505 --> 00:15:52,905 Did your wife have anything to do with it? 268 00:15:52,985 --> 00:15:55,305 She says I'm coping really well. 269 00:16:02,345 --> 00:16:05,625 - Did you see the Times article? - Urgh. 270 00:16:05,705 --> 00:16:09,385 It's time the BBC reined in Emily Maitlis. 271 00:16:09,465 --> 00:16:10,945 It’ll pass. 272 00:16:12,225 --> 00:16:13,505 And the complaint? 273 00:16:14,505 --> 00:16:18,385 Ah, there'll be a meeting, and they'll drop it. 274 00:16:18,985 --> 00:16:19,985 Mm. 275 00:16:21,105 --> 00:16:22,385 I was too much. 276 00:16:22,545 --> 00:16:23,465 I overreacted. 277 00:16:23,545 --> 00:16:24,865 Er, maybe. 278 00:16:25,385 --> 00:16:26,785 I don't know. Come on. 279 00:16:26,865 --> 00:16:28,105 Yep. 280 00:16:29,425 --> 00:16:31,025 Oh, fuck. 281 00:16:37,905 --> 00:16:40,345 Pitch@Palace is an idea. 282 00:16:40,425 --> 00:16:42,465 Pitch@Palace is a marketplace. 283 00:16:42,785 --> 00:16:46,185 Pitch@Palace is, if you like, a revolution. 284 00:16:46,665 --> 00:16:50,745 Um, uh, and for me, perhaps most importantly, uh, 285 00:16:50,825 --> 00:16:53,985 Pitch@Palace is a bit like a fruit cake. 286 00:16:54,265 --> 00:16:56,665 Um, we are the cake, you're the fruit and nuts. 287 00:16:56,745 --> 00:17:00,945 Uh, and this evening's event is what I like to call, 288 00:17:01,025 --> 00:17:02,825 um, the marzipan. 289 00:17:03,945 --> 00:17:08,345 I was asked recently, uh, uh, what I'm most proud of. 290 00:17:08,425 --> 00:17:11,265 And, uh, first and foremost, uh, my two daughters, 291 00:17:11,345 --> 00:17:14,065 the Princesses, Beatrice and Eugenie, here to lend 292 00:17:14,145 --> 00:17:15,905 their glamorous support. 293 00:17:16,025 --> 00:17:17,745 Um, not forgetting Pitch@Palace's 294 00:17:17,825 --> 00:17:19,505 new Press Secretary, Jason Stein, 295 00:17:19,585 --> 00:17:23,385 and masterminds these events alongside my, uh, 296 00:17:23,425 --> 00:17:27,065 as it were rock, Amanda Thirsk. 297 00:17:27,505 --> 00:17:30,185 Encouraging success and entrepreneurship, 298 00:17:30,425 --> 00:17:35,505 um, for me is what the Royal Family is all about. 299 00:17:35,585 --> 00:17:39,865 So, uh, well done everyone for making it this far. 300 00:17:39,905 --> 00:17:43,105 And, um, enjoy the snacks. 301 00:17:47,185 --> 00:17:48,905 - Sir. - Oh, oh, oh. 302 00:17:54,545 --> 00:17:56,985 I do so want it to be a success, you know. 303 00:17:57,065 --> 00:18:01,425 I saw all these... young people with their, their ideas. 304 00:18:02,425 --> 00:18:04,545 I just think, well, what's the point of being a prince 305 00:18:04,625 --> 00:18:07,665 if you can't do something, you know, positive? 306 00:18:08,025 --> 00:18:10,025 You are. It's a big success. 307 00:18:10,145 --> 00:18:11,825 My girls. Oh. 308 00:18:12,585 --> 00:18:14,665 You know, Granny calls me the Palace Entrepreneur. 309 00:18:14,745 --> 00:18:15,545 - Mm? - Really? 310 00:18:15,625 --> 00:18:17,265 - I've got big plans. - Oh, tell us. 311 00:18:17,505 --> 00:18:18,745 Ah. 312 00:18:18,905 --> 00:18:20,505 - Um... I can’t... - Sir? 313 00:18:20,585 --> 00:18:22,425 - Amanda. - Just someone you need to... 314 00:18:23,425 --> 00:18:25,385 - Daddy. - Two ticks. 315 00:18:25,425 --> 00:18:27,665 Yeah. 316 00:18:30,185 --> 00:18:31,665 You know, the papers are having another go at Daddy 317 00:18:31,745 --> 00:18:32,865 about that picture in The Mail? 318 00:18:32,905 --> 00:18:34,585 Oh, my God. That again. 319 00:18:34,665 --> 00:18:35,905 It's a fake. 320 00:18:36,065 --> 00:18:37,745 Anyway, they're always having a pop at him. 321 00:18:39,065 --> 00:18:40,785 - Randy Andy. - Don’t, don't. 322 00:18:40,865 --> 00:18:41,745 What? 323 00:18:41,825 --> 00:18:43,265 No, I just don't like thinking of him that way. 324 00:18:43,345 --> 00:18:44,865 Oh, it's just a stupid nickname. 325 00:18:44,905 --> 00:18:46,185 I know. It's so cringe. 326 00:18:46,265 --> 00:18:51,505 Remember him telling us how girls used to scream his name 327 00:18:51,585 --> 00:18:55,105 in the streets when he came back from the Falklands? 328 00:18:55,785 --> 00:18:58,785 Andy... 329 00:19:26,425 --> 00:19:28,145 Evening, Moods. 330 00:19:39,745 --> 00:19:40,905 Oh. 331 00:20:14,985 --> 00:20:16,185 What? 332 00:21:02,585 --> 00:21:05,065 Video taken in 2010 shows Andrew 333 00:21:05,145 --> 00:21:07,665 inside Epstein's New York mansion. 334 00:21:07,745 --> 00:21:11,025 This Royal visit just after Epstein convicted 335 00:21:11,105 --> 00:21:13,825 and sentenced to jail for paying underaged... 336 00:21:15,785 --> 00:21:17,905 Morning, Sir. Just this way, please. 337 00:21:18,025 --> 00:21:19,185 Thanks. 338 00:21:25,825 --> 00:21:27,025 Thanks. 339 00:21:35,265 --> 00:21:36,905 It's all total bullshit. That's right. 340 00:21:37,025 --> 00:21:38,665 No, they don't have the numbers. 341 00:21:39,345 --> 00:21:41,345 No, I know, I understand that. 342 00:21:41,425 --> 00:21:42,545 You have to let me know. 343 00:21:42,625 --> 00:21:44,345 That's what you're paying me for. 344 00:21:46,025 --> 00:21:48,505 Yeah, well, I need to let you know by the end of the day. 345 00:21:48,585 --> 00:21:49,785 Okay. 346 00:21:51,625 --> 00:21:52,985 Alright. Thank you. 347 00:21:55,705 --> 00:21:57,065 Your Highness. 348 00:21:57,465 --> 00:21:58,785 - Welcome back. - Jeffrey. 349 00:22:01,905 --> 00:22:03,025 Shall we? 350 00:22:03,305 --> 00:22:04,665 Yes. 351 00:22:20,625 --> 00:22:22,105 I am not gonna lie, Andy. 352 00:22:22,185 --> 00:22:24,705 I got a heap of meetings over the next few days, 353 00:22:24,785 --> 00:22:28,025 so... so we're probably best taking care of business now. 354 00:22:28,105 --> 00:22:30,825 Uh, you said that there's... 355 00:22:31,345 --> 00:22:33,225 there... there's something you wanted to talk about. 356 00:22:33,305 --> 00:22:36,065 Right, yes, um... 357 00:22:36,145 --> 00:22:38,585 uh, my ex, uh, Sarah. 358 00:22:38,665 --> 00:22:39,905 Fergie. 359 00:22:39,985 --> 00:22:41,545 Yes, yes. Um... 360 00:22:41,985 --> 00:22:44,345 well, she's got herself into a spot of bother with, uh... 361 00:22:44,585 --> 00:22:46,025 one of her old secretaries. 362 00:22:46,105 --> 00:22:51,665 Um, he's suing her for 125,000, um, in unpaid wages. 363 00:22:51,985 --> 00:22:55,025 Why do you let that woman bleed you for money? 364 00:22:55,425 --> 00:22:57,745 I mean, I thought you guys were divorced years ago. 365 00:22:58,265 --> 00:23:01,425 Yes, well, uh, we still, um... 366 00:23:01,545 --> 00:23:04,665 well, my father insisted that I cut her off 367 00:23:04,745 --> 00:23:08,505 after, um, well, she got a, a, a pretty rotten deal 368 00:23:08,585 --> 00:23:10,345 out of our divorce. 369 00:23:10,425 --> 00:23:13,225 So, uh, yes, I, I try to. 370 00:23:13,305 --> 00:23:14,905 Dollars or pounds? 371 00:23:15,385 --> 00:23:17,385 Uh, pounds, I'm afraid. 372 00:23:17,745 --> 00:23:20,305 Obviously, in a normal course of things I would settle it myself. 373 00:23:20,385 --> 00:23:24,185 But, uh, what with her other debts and, um... 374 00:23:25,025 --> 00:23:26,705 that thing with the Fake Sheikh. 375 00:23:26,785 --> 00:23:28,945 What the fuck was she thinking? 376 00:23:29,625 --> 00:23:32,145 So, uh, so money's, uh, tight? 377 00:23:32,225 --> 00:23:34,825 - Just at the moment, yes. - Sure, sure. 378 00:23:36,185 --> 00:23:37,785 You got this guy's name? 379 00:23:38,065 --> 00:23:39,105 Yeah. 380 00:23:39,185 --> 00:23:40,305 Number? 381 00:23:40,905 --> 00:23:43,385 I... I could get that for you. 382 00:23:44,705 --> 00:23:46,865 Okay. Done. 383 00:23:49,145 --> 00:23:50,585 - That, it's, uh... - It's gone. 384 00:23:50,665 --> 00:23:52,305 Vamoose, forget about it. 385 00:23:53,945 --> 00:23:56,385 Ah... thank you. 386 00:23:56,785 --> 00:23:58,025 Thanks very much. 387 00:23:58,825 --> 00:24:00,905 Obviously, I, I'll... I'll pay you back. And, uh... 388 00:24:00,985 --> 00:24:02,385 It's my gift. 389 00:24:03,705 --> 00:24:06,465 Is there, uh, is there anything else? 390 00:24:08,865 --> 00:24:14,425 Um, uh, well, there was your, um... 391 00:24:15,865 --> 00:24:18,145 I'm sorry to have to ask, it's just, uh... 392 00:24:19,065 --> 00:24:20,825 a business in Florida. 393 00:24:20,985 --> 00:24:24,305 Are you talking about my arrest? That's history. 394 00:24:24,385 --> 00:24:26,225 Right, yes, yes. 395 00:24:27,105 --> 00:24:28,625 It's just... 396 00:24:30,065 --> 00:24:31,425 Um... 397 00:24:32,025 --> 00:24:34,465 I... I probably can't, um... 398 00:24:35,425 --> 00:24:37,385 I mean, I... I probably shouldn’t... 399 00:24:37,465 --> 00:24:40,065 Listen, I can get meetings with whoever I want. 400 00:24:40,145 --> 00:24:43,225 You know, ex- presidents, mayors, CEOs, 401 00:24:43,305 --> 00:24:45,545 they all know Florida was a fix- up. 402 00:24:46,185 --> 00:24:48,945 Americans, we don't get hung up like your Brits. 403 00:24:49,025 --> 00:24:51,545 No, no, no, no. Absolutely. 404 00:24:53,265 --> 00:24:56,145 So anyway, I got a lunch on the sixth. 405 00:24:56,225 --> 00:24:58,025 That's, uh, that's three days off. 406 00:24:58,105 --> 00:24:59,905 Can you stay until then? 407 00:25:00,345 --> 00:25:02,105 You get the run of the house. 408 00:25:04,105 --> 00:25:05,785 I could do that, yeah. 409 00:25:05,945 --> 00:25:07,905 Great. Great. 410 00:25:07,985 --> 00:25:09,465 You're gonna meet a bunch of big names. 411 00:25:09,545 --> 00:25:11,025 I mean, you know, serious players, 412 00:25:11,105 --> 00:25:13,265 - and they all want to meet you. - Ah. 413 00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:17,065 And I thought, you know, if your work is, uh, the Trade Envoy. 414 00:25:17,145 --> 00:25:19,305 Oh, that’s very kind of you. Yeah. 415 00:25:25,265 --> 00:25:28,305 Yeah, ten- four. Copy that. On my way... 416 00:25:58,265 --> 00:26:00,065 Are we showing the Central Park picture 417 00:26:00,145 --> 00:26:01,825 of Prince Andrew and Epstein? 418 00:26:02,585 --> 00:26:04,145 No, why? 419 00:26:04,465 --> 00:26:06,065 You don't think it's relevant? 420 00:26:06,145 --> 00:26:07,865 Well, the story right now is Epstein's death. 421 00:26:07,945 --> 00:26:09,865 Yeah, and we’re sure he wasn't murdered. 422 00:26:11,145 --> 00:26:14,345 The New York Police Department is adamant that it’s suicide. 423 00:26:15,905 --> 00:26:18,145 Okay, so what am I saying? 424 00:26:18,585 --> 00:26:19,985 Well, the autocue's just been rewritten. 425 00:26:20,065 --> 00:26:22,265 Should be in front of you now. 426 00:26:23,545 --> 00:26:25,465 Okay, everyone, standby. 427 00:26:26,545 --> 00:26:30,225 On air in five, four, three... 428 00:26:33,585 --> 00:26:36,225 Following his arrest on sex trafficking charges 429 00:26:36,305 --> 00:26:39,625 four weeks ago, the convicted paedophile, Jeffrey Epstein, 430 00:26:39,705 --> 00:26:42,945 was today found dead in his Manhattan jail cell. 431 00:26:43,105 --> 00:26:46,705 Officials are reporting that the multimillionaire financier 432 00:26:46,945 --> 00:26:48,025 hanged himself. 433 00:26:54,825 --> 00:26:56,265 - You alright? - Yeah. 434 00:27:01,505 --> 00:27:03,065 Hey, give us a cigarette. 435 00:27:07,145 --> 00:27:09,225 They're playing fucking charades. 436 00:27:09,465 --> 00:27:10,985 Of course they are. 437 00:27:11,825 --> 00:27:13,345 Raaarh... 438 00:27:13,425 --> 00:27:14,905 The... the Grinch. 439 00:27:15,465 --> 00:27:18,385 What is... um, um... 440 00:27:18,465 --> 00:27:21,385 - Raaarh, raaarh, raaarh... - Uh, wait, um... uh, Home Alone. 441 00:27:21,465 --> 00:27:23,105 No, oh no, no... 442 00:27:23,185 --> 00:27:25,585 Uh, romcom... uh... 443 00:27:26,465 --> 00:27:28,145 - Romeo and Juliet. - No, this is dreadful. 444 00:27:28,225 --> 00:27:29,825 - No, no. - Uh, Titanic, Titanic. 445 00:27:29,905 --> 00:27:33,905 Uh... the divorce, uh, Kramer versus Kramer. 446 00:27:33,985 --> 00:27:37,265 - Yes! Yeah! - Well done, Dad. 447 00:27:37,665 --> 00:27:38,785 Just like us. 448 00:27:38,865 --> 00:27:41,105 Stop it, we're the happiest divorcees in the world. 449 00:27:41,185 --> 00:27:42,985 Yeah, same house, separate bedrooms. 450 00:27:43,065 --> 00:27:45,105 Daddy, stop, that is too much information. 451 00:27:45,185 --> 00:27:46,585 Can't live with me, can't live without me. 452 00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:48,385 Yeah, I could live without your debts. 453 00:27:49,425 --> 00:27:50,785 Don’t be such a grumps, Papa, 454 00:27:50,865 --> 00:27:52,905 Mummy’s the bestest friend you've ever had. 455 00:27:53,265 --> 00:27:55,905 Oh, fuck off, we're busy. What? 456 00:27:55,985 --> 00:27:58,705 There's a call for you, Sir, Amanda Thirsk. 457 00:27:58,905 --> 00:28:00,865 But surely, she can call tomorrow. 458 00:28:00,945 --> 00:28:02,385 Alright, nobody play without me. 459 00:28:02,465 --> 00:28:04,185 We’re winning three- two, Bea, 460 00:28:04,265 --> 00:28:06,225 make sure your fiancé doesn't cheat. 461 00:28:08,785 --> 00:28:09,865 The poor man’s probably thinking, 462 00:28:09,945 --> 00:28:11,225 what the hell am I marrying into? 463 00:28:11,305 --> 00:28:12,585 I love it. 464 00:28:12,665 --> 00:28:14,265 - Oh, my God, he’s so cute. - Thank you darling. 465 00:28:14,345 --> 00:28:16,905 He is, he’s very cute. Right, go on Ed, your go. 466 00:28:16,985 --> 00:28:18,465 Yep. 467 00:28:19,505 --> 00:28:22,545 Yes. 468 00:28:22,625 --> 00:28:23,785 Good evening, Sir. 469 00:28:23,865 --> 00:28:25,105 Sorry to ring so late. 470 00:28:25,185 --> 00:28:27,065 Yeah, I do have a mobile, Amanda. 471 00:28:27,345 --> 00:28:30,385 I thought it might be best to speak on the landline, Sir. 472 00:28:31,345 --> 00:28:32,385 What? 473 00:28:32,465 --> 00:28:34,145 Er, have you seen the news? 474 00:28:34,865 --> 00:28:36,945 No, I'm on holiday with my family. 475 00:28:37,585 --> 00:28:41,265 Jeffrey Epstein has just been found dead in his prison cell. 476 00:28:45,345 --> 00:28:47,225 Are... are you there, Sir? 477 00:28:47,785 --> 00:28:49,265 Was it suicide? 478 00:28:49,545 --> 00:28:51,625 They're saying he hanged himself 479 00:28:51,945 --> 00:28:54,225 but I... I'm not sure they really know yet. 480 00:28:55,145 --> 00:28:56,425 Ah. 481 00:28:58,625 --> 00:29:00,785 Is this good for me or bad? 482 00:29:00,945 --> 00:29:04,065 Well, now that he's dead, the case against him 483 00:29:04,145 --> 00:29:05,385 will have to be dropped. 484 00:29:05,465 --> 00:29:07,785 But I suspect Virginia Giuffre 485 00:29:07,865 --> 00:29:09,545 will go after Ghislaine Maxwell 486 00:29:09,625 --> 00:29:11,305 for her part in the sex trafficking. 487 00:29:11,385 --> 00:29:12,465 Well, that's nothing to do with me. 488 00:29:12,545 --> 00:29:15,025 - No, no, Sir. - So... 489 00:29:16,345 --> 00:29:17,745 I'm in the clear? 490 00:29:18,545 --> 00:29:20,265 I would hope so, Sir. 491 00:29:20,345 --> 00:29:21,785 Hope? 492 00:29:21,865 --> 00:29:25,945 I see no reason why you would be a person of interest. 493 00:29:26,625 --> 00:29:29,185 - No. Right. - Good night, Sir. 494 00:29:29,265 --> 00:29:31,905 Okay, thanks, Amanda. 495 00:29:35,185 --> 00:29:36,585 What is it? 496 00:29:45,545 --> 00:29:46,785 Jeffrey's dead. 497 00:29:47,745 --> 00:29:49,505 Hanged himself in his cell. 498 00:29:50,945 --> 00:29:52,345 Oh, God. 499 00:29:54,665 --> 00:29:56,825 You should never have accepted his money. 500 00:29:57,065 --> 00:29:58,945 It was a gift to you. 501 00:29:59,025 --> 00:30:01,105 Uh, but you were the one who went to New York. 502 00:30:01,185 --> 00:30:02,585 I didn't ask you to take his money. 503 00:30:02,665 --> 00:30:04,145 You sent me there with a fucking begging bowl. 504 00:30:04,225 --> 00:30:06,705 Don’t pretend that was the only reason you went. 505 00:30:13,545 --> 00:30:15,345 At least in America, they give me some fucking respect. 506 00:30:15,425 --> 00:30:17,585 A prince is a prince there. 507 00:30:18,705 --> 00:30:20,585 Here I'm just my bloody nicknames. 508 00:30:20,665 --> 00:30:22,145 Not to me. 509 00:30:22,225 --> 00:30:24,225 Doesn't actually help much, does it? 510 00:30:25,225 --> 00:30:26,865 Mummy! 511 00:30:26,985 --> 00:30:28,265 Coming, darling. 512 00:30:30,305 --> 00:30:33,745 At least when I make a mistake, I take responsibility. 513 00:30:33,865 --> 00:30:36,065 Your lot wouldn't know sorry if it put on a wig 514 00:30:36,145 --> 00:30:37,665 and danced the can- can. 515 00:30:37,745 --> 00:30:39,025 Well, whatever you do, don't go blabbing 516 00:30:39,105 --> 00:30:40,465 to the girls about Jeffrey. 517 00:30:40,545 --> 00:30:42,505 They didn't ask to be our daughters. 518 00:30:42,785 --> 00:30:44,345 And I won't have them being attacked for something 519 00:30:44,425 --> 00:30:46,345 they're completely innocent of. 520 00:30:49,185 --> 00:30:51,705 You know, I'm never going to ask you what happened. 521 00:30:53,505 --> 00:30:57,225 Whatever you did... or didn't do I'll always be loyal. 522 00:30:59,185 --> 00:31:01,265 And I wouldn't underestimate that. 523 00:31:10,865 --> 00:31:13,905 - Hello! - Welcome back! 524 00:31:16,385 --> 00:31:18,065 Let's put another call into the Palace. 525 00:31:18,145 --> 00:31:19,425 Oh, they were pretty clear about it. 526 00:31:19,505 --> 00:31:20,825 He won't talk about Epstein. 527 00:31:20,905 --> 00:31:22,465 Epstein's dead, right? 528 00:31:22,545 --> 00:31:24,505 So, now they're all gonna go after Ghislaine Maxwell, 529 00:31:24,585 --> 00:31:25,785 and once they've gone after her, 530 00:31:25,865 --> 00:31:27,385 they're gonna go after Prince Andrew. 531 00:31:27,465 --> 00:31:29,625 If we don't chase him now, someone else will. 532 00:31:29,705 --> 00:31:32,465 And I'm not losing out to bloody ITV. 533 00:31:32,545 --> 00:31:33,625 - Stew? - Yeah. 534 00:31:33,705 --> 00:31:34,985 I can give Amanda another call. 535 00:31:35,065 --> 00:31:37,465 Yeah, we have to convince them that Newsnight 536 00:31:37,545 --> 00:31:38,585 is the best place to talk. 537 00:31:38,665 --> 00:31:40,945 You know, make him feel comfortable with me. 538 00:31:41,025 --> 00:31:42,705 Maybe arrange a pre- meet. 539 00:31:42,785 --> 00:31:44,025 - Sure. - Yeah. 540 00:31:44,105 --> 00:31:45,465 - Um... - What? 541 00:31:45,545 --> 00:31:47,665 Uh, Head of News just rang, 542 00:31:48,105 --> 00:31:50,385 uh, the panel upheld the complaint. 543 00:31:51,985 --> 00:31:54,865 Oh, for God's sake. It's a stupid eye roll. 544 00:31:54,945 --> 00:31:58,705 It’s, um... it’s gone viral. 545 00:32:00,065 --> 00:32:03,705 Oh, oh, oh, oh... 546 00:32:05,705 --> 00:32:06,545 So, what happens next? 547 00:32:06,625 --> 00:32:08,745 Well, the panel's findings will be published. 548 00:32:08,825 --> 00:32:10,305 Someone from The Mail will write a bitchy column 549 00:32:10,385 --> 00:32:11,545 and no one else will give a shit. 550 00:32:11,625 --> 00:32:12,945 I give a shit. 551 00:32:14,665 --> 00:32:15,985 I'm sorry. 552 00:32:16,305 --> 00:32:18,185 I need the Andrew interview. 553 00:32:36,345 --> 00:32:38,985 No shortage of that. 554 00:32:40,065 --> 00:32:43,185 It started with a line, "I once knew a man called Poops." 555 00:32:44,305 --> 00:32:46,305 Don’t say that, Andy. 556 00:32:46,385 --> 00:32:48,905 - Whose wife had terribly large... - Don’t. Stop there. 557 00:32:48,985 --> 00:32:51,505 And I, you can imagine the rest of yourself. 558 00:32:54,305 --> 00:32:55,985 Oh, fuck. 559 00:32:56,065 --> 00:32:58,265 Well, just let security deal with it. 560 00:32:58,345 --> 00:32:59,825 No, I'll deal with it. 561 00:33:00,785 --> 00:33:01,785 Why are they here? 562 00:33:01,865 --> 00:33:04,185 Well, Virginia Giuffre’s back on the telly. That’s why. 563 00:33:04,265 --> 00:33:06,465 Dispatches is on Channel 4 tonight. 564 00:33:06,585 --> 00:33:08,105 Oh, God. 565 00:33:13,065 --> 00:33:14,825 I'm taking my daughter to a wedding rehearsal. 566 00:33:14,945 --> 00:33:16,585 - Get them out the way. - I'm sorry, Sir. 567 00:33:16,665 --> 00:33:17,865 There's nothing we can do about it. 568 00:33:17,945 --> 00:33:19,785 For fuck’s sake. Open the gates! 569 00:33:19,865 --> 00:33:21,265 - Daddy, please. - Yes, Sir. 570 00:33:31,305 --> 00:33:33,745 We should just fucking drive through them. 571 00:33:35,105 --> 00:33:37,145 This gate is so slow. 572 00:33:37,225 --> 00:33:39,585 If they don’t get out of the way I'm just gonna... 573 00:33:39,665 --> 00:33:41,425 go through them. 574 00:33:44,345 --> 00:33:45,905 Just ignore them, darling. 575 00:33:45,985 --> 00:33:47,265 Ignore them, darling. 576 00:33:47,345 --> 00:33:49,225 Did you meet Virginia Giuffre? 577 00:33:49,745 --> 00:33:54,025 Daddy, it’s fine. Just drive, please! It’s fine. 578 00:34:04,225 --> 00:34:07,865 At no stage during the limited time I spent with Epstein, 579 00:34:07,945 --> 00:34:11,225 did I see, witness or suspect any behaviour 580 00:34:11,265 --> 00:34:14,105 of the sort that subsequently led to his conviction. 581 00:34:14,185 --> 00:34:15,385 Hm- mm. 582 00:34:15,465 --> 00:34:17,545 I... I think it's a very good statement, Sir. 583 00:34:17,625 --> 00:34:19,585 I didn't ask for your opinion. 584 00:34:23,625 --> 00:34:25,385 I won't have my daughter's wedding plans ruined 585 00:34:25,465 --> 00:34:27,185 by a bunch of jumped- up journalists. 586 00:34:27,265 --> 00:34:28,505 Well, I understand, Sir. 587 00:34:28,585 --> 00:34:30,145 Two stupid photographs. 588 00:34:30,225 --> 00:34:32,505 Two stupid bloody photographs, Amanda, 589 00:34:32,585 --> 00:34:34,465 and a lot of vicious bloody press. 590 00:34:36,585 --> 00:34:40,305 God, I swear to you, I have no recollection of this woman. 591 00:34:41,465 --> 00:34:42,785 None at all. 592 00:34:45,145 --> 00:34:46,985 You do believe me, don't you? 593 00:34:47,265 --> 00:34:49,305 Of course, Sir. 594 00:34:52,705 --> 00:34:54,745 I'm so sorry, Andrew. 595 00:34:57,705 --> 00:34:59,105 Uh... 596 00:35:00,425 --> 00:35:01,945 Does the boss know about all this? 597 00:35:02,025 --> 00:35:03,545 Sir. 598 00:35:04,625 --> 00:35:06,705 Prince of Wales's office, have they been on to you? 599 00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:08,225 - No, Sir. - Because I'll be damned 600 00:35:08,265 --> 00:35:10,385 if my brother's gonna stir the pot. 601 00:35:10,745 --> 00:35:12,105 I fought for Queen and Country. 602 00:35:12,185 --> 00:35:15,185 All he did was talk to the roses and shag his fucking mistress. 603 00:35:22,745 --> 00:35:24,545 Here at this house in Kinnerton Street, 604 00:35:24,625 --> 00:35:27,625 it's alleged Prince Andrew met a 17- year-old American girl 605 00:35:27,705 --> 00:35:29,705 - called Virginia Roberts. - It’s on. 606 00:35:29,745 --> 00:35:32,865 She later said she was excited to meet a real prince 607 00:35:32,945 --> 00:35:35,745 and wanted a photo taken to send back to her family 608 00:35:35,785 --> 00:35:37,185 in the States. 609 00:35:37,265 --> 00:35:40,665 So, she handed her own camera to Jeffrey Epstein, 610 00:35:40,745 --> 00:35:42,665 the man who'd introduced them. 611 00:35:44,465 --> 00:35:48,185 Virginia alleges that moments after this photo was taken, 612 00:35:48,265 --> 00:35:50,025 she and the prince went into a bedroom 613 00:35:50,145 --> 00:35:52,505 and a bathroom just a few steps away 614 00:35:52,585 --> 00:35:54,425 where they had sex. 615 00:35:54,705 --> 00:35:56,585 Buckingham Palace said... 616 00:35:56,905 --> 00:35:58,425 It is emphatically denied 617 00:35:58,505 --> 00:36:00,905 that the Duke of York had any form of sexual contact. 618 00:36:00,985 --> 00:36:02,745 You don’t believe any of it, do you? 619 00:36:04,785 --> 00:36:06,385 Of course not. 620 00:36:10,385 --> 00:36:13,425 Prince Andrew firmly denies any wrongdoing. 621 00:36:13,505 --> 00:36:16,265 But whether his reputation will ever recover 622 00:36:16,385 --> 00:36:19,425 from the photo of him with his arm around a 17-year- old 623 00:36:19,505 --> 00:36:23,625 presented to him by a man later convicted of child sex crimes, 624 00:36:23,705 --> 00:36:25,985 well, that's another matter entirely. 625 00:36:29,065 --> 00:36:30,545 They're lying. 626 00:36:31,985 --> 00:36:34,185 You have to fight back, Andy. 627 00:36:34,265 --> 00:36:35,945 No one will believe me. 628 00:36:36,465 --> 00:36:40,705 the queen will be watching this, Charles, all of them. 629 00:36:40,745 --> 00:36:44,665 They'll... they'll cut you off without a bloody penny. 630 00:36:49,225 --> 00:36:51,305 Alright, who's telling Emily? Stew? 631 00:36:51,425 --> 00:36:54,545 Guys, did you see Dispatches last night? 632 00:36:54,745 --> 00:36:56,065 God, we have to get the Andrew interview, 633 00:36:56,145 --> 00:36:58,145 - it’s absolutely massive. - They've said, no. 634 00:36:58,665 --> 00:36:59,985 Not the right time. 635 00:37:01,145 --> 00:37:02,625 Right. 636 00:37:03,065 --> 00:37:04,905 Now, Amanda assures Stew 637 00:37:04,985 --> 00:37:06,625 that they're turning down everyone. 638 00:37:08,145 --> 00:37:09,905 Oh, fuck. 639 00:37:10,305 --> 00:37:12,225 - This way, Madam. - Thank you. 640 00:37:16,985 --> 00:37:18,865 - Amanda. - Edward. 641 00:37:19,065 --> 00:37:21,265 Do you know Donal, the queen's new Press Secretary? 642 00:37:21,385 --> 00:37:23,265 He's just joined us at the Palace. 643 00:37:23,385 --> 00:37:25,105 - Hi. - How do you do? 644 00:37:25,905 --> 00:37:27,785 So, what’ll it be? 645 00:37:27,905 --> 00:37:30,425 Ah, gin and tonic, please. 646 00:37:34,465 --> 00:37:37,545 So, busy times for the Duke of York. 647 00:37:37,785 --> 00:37:38,985 Got enough troops on the ground? 648 00:37:39,065 --> 00:37:40,545 Mm, I think so. 649 00:37:40,625 --> 00:37:42,705 Well, the queen's office is happy to lend the hand 650 00:37:42,745 --> 00:37:45,265 if you need. We're all on the same team. 651 00:37:45,625 --> 00:37:47,665 Give or take the odd inter- familial tiff. 652 00:37:51,425 --> 00:37:54,065 You know, the best advice I ever had 653 00:37:54,145 --> 00:37:57,265 when I joined the firm was from your predecessor, Alistair. 654 00:37:57,385 --> 00:38:00,745 He saw the Duke of York through quite a few scrapes in his time. 655 00:38:00,865 --> 00:38:03,945 He reminded me how very unlike other human beings 656 00:38:04,025 --> 00:38:06,185 our senior principals are. 657 00:38:06,385 --> 00:38:09,665 He described their life as, I... I thought rather well, 658 00:38:09,745 --> 00:38:12,065 as a frictionless existence. 659 00:38:12,145 --> 00:38:13,265 They've never been late for a train 660 00:38:13,385 --> 00:38:14,465 because the train waits for them. 661 00:38:14,585 --> 00:38:15,865 They've never packed their own bags. 662 00:38:15,945 --> 00:38:17,665 Never paid their own bills. 663 00:38:17,945 --> 00:38:19,785 No, well, the, uh, Duke’s ex 664 00:38:19,905 --> 00:38:21,865 has caused him a few headaches on the money front. 665 00:38:21,945 --> 00:38:23,425 But you take my point. 666 00:38:25,265 --> 00:38:28,665 They don't meet the world in the same way we do. 667 00:38:29,065 --> 00:38:35,265 It can make them a little naive at times... arrogant even. 668 00:38:36,105 --> 00:38:38,185 But whatever their missteps, 669 00:38:38,265 --> 00:38:42,185 our MO is to protect them from themselves. 670 00:38:45,265 --> 00:38:47,705 I'm not sure I follow you. 671 00:38:48,465 --> 00:38:50,945 Well, in my experience, when things get heated, 672 00:38:51,025 --> 00:38:53,145 it's best to work between us 673 00:38:53,705 --> 00:38:56,545 rather than pulling in the principals. 674 00:38:56,985 --> 00:38:58,865 In fact, the less they know, the better. 675 00:38:58,945 --> 00:39:01,305 That's not been my experience. 676 00:39:01,945 --> 00:39:05,265 I find the Duke of York to be incredibly clear- thinking 677 00:39:05,865 --> 00:39:07,545 and informed. 678 00:39:07,745 --> 00:39:09,985 - About? - Everything. 679 00:39:10,065 --> 00:39:13,505 Gin and tonic, Madam. 680 00:39:14,465 --> 00:39:16,505 Ah, lovely. 681 00:39:19,505 --> 00:39:21,185 The Duke of York has been accused 682 00:39:21,265 --> 00:39:23,745 of raping a young woman in an apartment 683 00:39:23,865 --> 00:39:26,945 paid for by the now dead Jeffrey Epstein. 684 00:39:27,105 --> 00:39:29,945 There are flight logs showing he took multiple trips 685 00:39:30,025 --> 00:39:33,025 to the paedophile’s island on his private jet, 686 00:39:33,105 --> 00:39:35,705 nicknamed the Lolita Express. 687 00:39:35,745 --> 00:39:39,265 In 2010 he was photographed with Epstein, 688 00:39:39,305 --> 00:39:43,265 by then a known sex trafficker, walking through Central Park. 689 00:39:43,305 --> 00:39:46,625 At the very least, this shows poor judgment. 690 00:39:47,065 --> 00:39:49,265 For now, it remains a PR problem. 691 00:39:50,065 --> 00:39:53,865 But the Duke’s accuser has just hired an American attorney 692 00:39:53,945 --> 00:39:55,985 by the name of David Boies. 693 00:39:56,065 --> 00:39:58,945 Very big hitter, takes no prisoners. 694 00:40:00,425 --> 00:40:03,225 I'd say we are one more misstep away 695 00:40:03,265 --> 00:40:07,065 from legal proceedings against the Duke himself. 696 00:40:07,945 --> 00:40:10,225 Now you can understand that Her Majesty 697 00:40:10,265 --> 00:40:13,305 finds all of this incredibly painful. 698 00:40:14,225 --> 00:40:16,305 But emotions aside, 699 00:40:16,425 --> 00:40:19,105 the bottom line for all of us 700 00:40:19,185 --> 00:40:23,225 is to ensure that this scandal never touches the Monarch. 701 00:40:23,465 --> 00:40:27,785 The Duke is one thing, the Crown quite another. 702 00:40:29,985 --> 00:40:32,225 Now, at the end of the day, 703 00:40:32,265 --> 00:40:34,985 it's your responsibility to protect your principal. 704 00:40:36,385 --> 00:40:39,865 But I would suggest that you share any plans you have 705 00:40:39,945 --> 00:40:42,385 with myself and Donal. 706 00:40:43,905 --> 00:40:45,665 Do you have any plans? 707 00:40:47,745 --> 00:40:49,465 I'm working on it. 708 00:40:49,745 --> 00:40:53,745 Sneaky bastard! Who else was there? 709 00:40:53,905 --> 00:40:56,305 Donal McCabe, Queen’s new Press Secretary. 710 00:40:56,425 --> 00:40:58,425 Oh, he's a little shit. 711 00:40:58,585 --> 00:41:00,985 God... you’d think I was a liability 712 00:41:01,065 --> 00:41:04,425 the way they try and muzzle me. "Don't do this. Don't say that." 713 00:41:05,425 --> 00:41:07,545 I'm my own bloody man. 714 00:41:09,065 --> 00:41:11,745 Urgh. Well, I appreciate your loyalty, Amanda. 715 00:41:11,865 --> 00:41:13,305 Oh, thank you, Sir. 716 00:41:14,145 --> 00:41:18,145 Really, this... this has to go away before Beatrice's wedding. 717 00:41:18,265 --> 00:41:20,065 I won't have my daughter subjected to 718 00:41:20,145 --> 00:41:25,185 an endless stream of lies and insinuation. 719 00:41:25,265 --> 00:41:26,745 I may be many things, Amanda, 720 00:41:26,785 --> 00:41:29,545 but I am not and have never been a... 721 00:41:39,065 --> 00:41:40,785 Right, I'll race you to those trees. 722 00:41:40,905 --> 00:41:42,945 Last one there's a fatty. On your marks, get set, go! 723 00:41:43,025 --> 00:41:44,865 W... uh, no! 724 00:41:44,985 --> 00:41:47,025 - Come on! Come on, Amanda. - You are not... 725 00:41:47,105 --> 00:41:50,945 No, no, no! Your Royal Highness, stop! 726 00:41:51,025 --> 00:41:54,465 You're a fatty! 727 00:41:54,625 --> 00:41:58,745 You're a fatty! 728 00:41:58,865 --> 00:42:00,905 You had a head start. 729 00:42:04,625 --> 00:42:05,745 Oh. 730 00:42:06,305 --> 00:42:07,745 Okay. 731 00:42:09,545 --> 00:42:11,145 How are we gonna fight back? 732 00:42:14,065 --> 00:42:15,785 I did have a thought, Sir. 733 00:42:15,905 --> 00:42:17,545 Yeah. 734 00:42:20,785 --> 00:42:24,385 Hey, um, email just in from Amanda Thirsk. 735 00:42:24,465 --> 00:42:27,465 She'd like to quote, "Reconsider the possibility of an interview 736 00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:29,545 with the Duke of York," unquote. 737 00:42:31,545 --> 00:42:33,505 Wait, with Epstein on the table? 738 00:42:33,585 --> 00:42:36,185 Epstein, Maxwell, no holds barred. 739 00:42:38,225 --> 00:42:40,185 Not the usual 15 minutes. 740 00:42:41,145 --> 00:42:42,705 An hour. 741 00:42:42,745 --> 00:42:44,665 - Fuck me. An hour? - An hour. 742 00:42:45,185 --> 00:42:46,265 You’d be lucky. 743 00:42:46,305 --> 00:42:47,625 Right, are they talking to anyone else? 744 00:42:47,705 --> 00:42:48,625 She isn't saying. 745 00:42:48,705 --> 00:42:49,985 But I spoke to my contacted at Sky 746 00:42:50,065 --> 00:42:52,265 and they're definitely in the race, as are ITV. 747 00:42:52,385 --> 00:42:53,225 Ah, shit. 748 00:42:53,265 --> 00:42:55,945 Look, Amanda's gonna be all over the optics with this, right, 749 00:42:56,025 --> 00:42:57,865 so, we need to convince her that Newsnight’s 750 00:42:57,945 --> 00:42:59,425 the heavyweight forum that Andrew needs 751 00:42:59,505 --> 00:43:00,745 if he's gonna push back. 752 00:43:00,785 --> 00:43:03,985 Okay, so, our line is sofa chats and bland press statements 753 00:43:04,065 --> 00:43:04,905 won't cut it. 754 00:43:04,985 --> 00:43:07,185 Plus, the BBC's where the nation comes for big stories. 755 00:43:07,265 --> 00:43:11,665 But you know when I said a pre- meet, offer that again. 756 00:43:12,665 --> 00:43:15,225 Get me and him in a room together and then... 757 00:43:15,265 --> 00:43:17,305 I can do my thing. 758 00:43:17,985 --> 00:43:19,585 Okay. 759 00:43:22,265 --> 00:43:24,625 God, it's so close. 760 00:43:24,905 --> 00:43:28,105 I am the second fucking son of the fucking Sovereign. 761 00:43:28,185 --> 00:43:30,185 If I want to go on telly and defend myself, 762 00:43:30,265 --> 00:43:31,225 I fucking well will. 763 00:43:31,265 --> 00:43:33,545 But Sir, I'm your press secretary. 764 00:43:33,625 --> 00:43:35,465 Why in God's name wasn't I informed? 765 00:43:35,545 --> 00:43:37,265 I don't need your permission to do an interview, 766 00:43:37,305 --> 00:43:38,265 thank you very much! 767 00:43:38,305 --> 00:43:40,745 I fought in the fucking Falklands! 768 00:43:41,865 --> 00:43:44,745 It's time I reminded my people of who I am. 769 00:43:44,825 --> 00:43:47,105 This is completely the wrong thing to do. 770 00:43:47,185 --> 00:43:49,585 Just let the press blow themselves out. 771 00:43:49,665 --> 00:43:51,985 If you feed the story, they'll only want more. 772 00:43:52,065 --> 00:43:53,705 Oh, for Christ sake, Jason, 773 00:43:53,785 --> 00:43:56,225 they've been feeding off this story for nearly 10 years! 774 00:43:56,305 --> 00:43:59,225 Well, then stop making yourself such an easy bloody target. 775 00:44:02,825 --> 00:44:06,305 Sir, this is not the way to defend yourself. 776 00:44:07,225 --> 00:44:08,505 If you go ahead with the interview, 777 00:44:08,585 --> 00:44:10,105 I'll have to resign. 778 00:44:10,465 --> 00:44:12,145 Good. You're fired. 779 00:44:12,225 --> 00:44:13,865 Go. Now. 780 00:44:22,105 --> 00:44:23,425 Will he squeal? 781 00:44:25,065 --> 00:44:26,425 No. 782 00:44:26,625 --> 00:44:28,785 If he does, he'll never work again. 783 00:44:30,465 --> 00:44:31,825 Yeah. 784 00:44:34,345 --> 00:44:36,465 I was recruited at a very young age 785 00:44:36,545 --> 00:44:39,905 from Mar- a-Lago and entrapped in a world 786 00:44:39,985 --> 00:44:41,305 that I didn't understand. 787 00:44:41,385 --> 00:44:43,545 And I've been fighting that very world to this day. 788 00:44:43,625 --> 00:44:46,665 And I won't stop fighting. I will never be silenced 789 00:44:46,745 --> 00:44:49,025 until these people are brought to justice. 790 00:45:10,785 --> 00:45:12,305 Do you know what time it is? 791 00:45:12,385 --> 00:45:14,825 Virginia Giuffre contacted the Metropolitan Police 792 00:45:14,905 --> 00:45:16,585 in May 2015, 793 00:45:16,665 --> 00:45:19,305 claiming that she was trafficked to London by Epstein, 794 00:45:19,385 --> 00:45:22,825 specifically to sleep with Prince Andrew. 795 00:45:22,905 --> 00:45:26,185 The Met dismissed her case in 2016 on the grounds that 796 00:45:26,265 --> 00:45:28,705 any investigations into human trafficking 797 00:45:28,785 --> 00:45:32,345 will be focused on activities outside the UK. 798 00:45:32,425 --> 00:45:36,825 But the Met denied ever talking to Giuffre's legal team. 799 00:45:37,025 --> 00:45:39,065 I mean that, that's a blatant coverup. 800 00:45:39,185 --> 00:45:40,945 Like someone leaned on them. 801 00:45:41,025 --> 00:45:43,225 Emily, stop it with the Google. 802 00:45:43,305 --> 00:45:45,665 It, it, it's like crazy o’clock. 803 00:45:45,865 --> 00:45:48,145 You've got a date with his Royal Highness tomorrow. 804 00:45:48,225 --> 00:45:50,265 Oh shit. That's a point. How... how do I address him? 805 00:45:50,345 --> 00:45:51,625 They'll tell you. 806 00:45:52,505 --> 00:45:54,545 I think I should ask about the coverup. 807 00:45:54,625 --> 00:45:55,945 Do you think I should ask about the coverup? 808 00:45:56,025 --> 00:45:57,985 I think it's the middle of the night. 809 00:45:58,545 --> 00:46:01,105 Go to bed. 810 00:46:33,105 --> 00:46:34,225 Morning. 811 00:46:34,305 --> 00:46:35,825 Good morning, Sir. 812 00:46:35,905 --> 00:46:37,865 - All set? - Yes. 813 00:46:45,025 --> 00:46:47,025 May I ask you something, Amanda? 814 00:46:47,985 --> 00:46:49,625 Of course, Sir. 815 00:46:49,825 --> 00:46:52,385 I was just wondering, you know, erm... 816 00:46:54,225 --> 00:46:56,105 what do people make of me? 817 00:46:56,625 --> 00:46:58,505 I don't mean, um... 818 00:46:59,305 --> 00:47:03,625 it's just... nobody ever tells you. 819 00:47:04,585 --> 00:47:08,505 It's always what they think we want to hear. 820 00:47:08,625 --> 00:47:10,545 That’s it. 821 00:47:11,785 --> 00:47:14,385 Or they just look at you, you know. 822 00:47:16,825 --> 00:47:18,945 Of all the Royal Family, you're the one 823 00:47:19,025 --> 00:47:21,385 that I always thought was the most down to earth. 824 00:47:21,465 --> 00:47:23,825 You've had an actual job 825 00:47:23,905 --> 00:47:25,825 and you’re always so loyal to your mother. 826 00:47:25,905 --> 00:47:28,105 - Hm. - And dutiful. 827 00:47:28,705 --> 00:47:29,945 Hm. 828 00:47:38,065 --> 00:47:40,785 Right. Um, I'll be in my apartment. 829 00:47:53,105 --> 00:47:54,865 Thank you. 830 00:47:54,945 --> 00:47:57,225 Thank you. 831 00:47:57,945 --> 00:47:59,705 Please. 832 00:48:07,465 --> 00:48:09,145 Tastes a bit like dish water. 833 00:48:10,865 --> 00:48:12,865 - Oh. - Hi, hi. 834 00:48:13,145 --> 00:48:15,345 Um, please do sit, do sit. 835 00:48:16,385 --> 00:48:19,265 I've brought my, uh, my daughter, Beatrice. 836 00:48:19,505 --> 00:48:20,905 Hi. 837 00:48:23,105 --> 00:48:26,025 Well, thank you so much for agreeing to see us, 838 00:48:26,105 --> 00:48:27,665 Your Royal Highness. 839 00:48:27,745 --> 00:48:29,065 We know how busy you are, 840 00:48:29,145 --> 00:48:32,545 so we really appreciate you giving us this time. 841 00:48:32,665 --> 00:48:33,905 Hmm. 842 00:48:38,945 --> 00:48:41,145 God, I don't think I've ever drunk out of such posh cups 843 00:48:41,225 --> 00:48:42,625 in my life. 844 00:48:42,705 --> 00:48:43,945 Shall we make a start? 845 00:48:44,025 --> 00:48:45,425 Yes. 846 00:48:49,225 --> 00:48:50,865 For months now, 847 00:48:50,945 --> 00:48:54,505 Virginia Giuffre has been all over the media. 848 00:48:54,585 --> 00:48:55,585 Hm- mm. 849 00:48:55,665 --> 00:48:58,505 But the Palace has kept very quiet. 850 00:48:58,745 --> 00:49:03,025 And we don't think that strategy is serving you as it should. 851 00:49:03,185 --> 00:49:06,225 We think, um, the public need to hear your side of the story 852 00:49:06,305 --> 00:49:08,825 from the point of view of a respected broadcaster. 853 00:49:08,905 --> 00:49:10,865 I've been warned about you. 854 00:49:11,625 --> 00:49:15,985 You, uh, you have a bit of a reputation, I'm told. 855 00:49:17,225 --> 00:49:18,705 For? 856 00:49:18,785 --> 00:49:23,305 Well, that rather depends on... who you're talking to. 857 00:49:24,545 --> 00:49:27,465 Well, for you, I'll try and behave. 858 00:49:30,705 --> 00:49:33,905 I'm sure you will. 859 00:49:36,705 --> 00:49:38,585 So, I'm assuming that, um, 860 00:49:38,665 --> 00:49:42,785 if we do agree a way forward as it were, um... 861 00:49:43,465 --> 00:49:45,905 how long are you imagining that this interview would take? 862 00:49:45,985 --> 00:49:48,265 Well, we'd be guided by you, but we, we feel we’d like to... 863 00:49:48,345 --> 00:49:50,265 You and I will need an hour. 864 00:49:50,345 --> 00:49:52,105 We were thinking 15 minutes. 865 00:49:53,105 --> 00:49:54,985 Why would we need an hour? 866 00:49:55,345 --> 00:49:57,345 Well, obviously it's up to you, 867 00:49:57,425 --> 00:50:01,185 but it does feel like we have quite a lot to discuss. 868 00:50:01,705 --> 00:50:04,225 Oh really? You ask me if the allegations are true. 869 00:50:04,305 --> 00:50:06,345 I tell you that they're not, as it were. 870 00:50:06,425 --> 00:50:08,585 Of course. It's just... 871 00:50:09,025 --> 00:50:11,425 given who... Epstein was. 872 00:50:11,505 --> 00:50:13,505 The Duke of York had absolutely no idea 873 00:50:13,585 --> 00:50:14,905 about any of that. 874 00:50:16,705 --> 00:50:17,985 Hm. 875 00:50:23,665 --> 00:50:27,145 Uh, I guess an hour also gives us time 876 00:50:27,225 --> 00:50:29,785 to talk about your amazing Pitch@Palace scheme. 877 00:50:30,665 --> 00:50:33,225 Ah, well, yes. 878 00:50:33,305 --> 00:50:37,105 Well, you see, that's... that's the big story for me personally. 879 00:50:37,185 --> 00:50:39,225 Um, we're pushing it out. 880 00:50:39,745 --> 00:50:41,345 China, Australia, 881 00:50:41,425 --> 00:50:44,105 the Middle East, it's been a huge success. 882 00:50:44,185 --> 00:50:46,425 A huge success. Yes. 883 00:50:46,505 --> 00:50:49,145 The marzipan on top of the fruitcake. 884 00:50:51,105 --> 00:50:53,985 That photograph, we think it's a fake 885 00:50:54,265 --> 00:50:56,265 and we'd need you to look into it. 886 00:50:57,825 --> 00:50:58,625 Right. 887 00:50:58,705 --> 00:51:03,905 Problem is, you see, it's a copy of a copy. 888 00:51:04,745 --> 00:51:07,145 Uh, we've had our own experts, um, on it, 889 00:51:07,225 --> 00:51:09,265 but, uh, they say it's impossible to tell. 890 00:51:09,345 --> 00:51:12,505 But we need someone outside the Palace 891 00:51:12,585 --> 00:51:14,585 to do their own analysis. 892 00:51:15,105 --> 00:51:17,105 See, we think it's been photoshopped. 893 00:51:18,825 --> 00:51:22,905 Right. Yes. We'll absolutely investigate that. 894 00:51:22,985 --> 00:51:24,465 Good. 895 00:51:24,665 --> 00:51:26,185 Ah, um... 896 00:51:27,905 --> 00:51:29,825 have any of you... 897 00:51:29,905 --> 00:51:31,785 ever been victims of abuse? 898 00:51:34,025 --> 00:51:35,385 - No, not personally. - No. 899 00:51:38,905 --> 00:51:39,985 No. 900 00:51:40,625 --> 00:51:42,145 Nothing in your life? 901 00:51:42,865 --> 00:51:44,905 Nothing that bears comparison. 902 00:51:45,585 --> 00:51:48,585 So, your judgment... 903 00:51:49,145 --> 00:51:51,265 wouldn't be coloured by anything at all? 904 00:51:55,585 --> 00:51:59,705 - Not at all. - Anything else? 905 00:51:59,785 --> 00:52:02,145 I don't think we need to commit anything here, Sir. 906 00:52:02,225 --> 00:52:05,745 Good. Okay. Well, we'll let you know. 907 00:52:05,825 --> 00:52:11,145 Um, obviously I'll need to... check with upstairs. 908 00:52:11,225 --> 00:52:13,625 Hm- mm. Right. 909 00:52:15,865 --> 00:52:18,345 Stewart, so good at long last, thank you. 910 00:52:18,425 --> 00:52:20,225 - Yeah, thank you. - Appreciate it, Amanda. 911 00:52:20,985 --> 00:52:22,305 I'm sweating. 912 00:52:22,385 --> 00:52:24,065 Pfft. Right. 913 00:52:24,385 --> 00:52:26,545 Urgh, how weird was that? 914 00:52:26,825 --> 00:52:28,225 - Why'd he ask about abuse? - Yeah. 915 00:52:28,305 --> 00:52:29,865 I was like, ah, what the fuck? 916 00:52:29,945 --> 00:52:31,425 Yeah, that was weird. 917 00:52:32,305 --> 00:52:33,425 We're on. 918 00:52:34,345 --> 00:52:35,545 - What? - Yes! 919 00:52:35,625 --> 00:52:37,585 - Wait, when? - This Thursday. Two o'clock. 920 00:52:37,665 --> 00:52:38,865 - Oh. - That’s two days away. 921 00:52:38,945 --> 00:52:39,945 Yeah, do you want to try and push it? 922 00:52:40,025 --> 00:52:41,425 No, no, no. We'll lose him. 923 00:52:41,505 --> 00:52:44,385 Alright. Tell Esme I need to rehearse right now. 924 00:52:44,905 --> 00:52:46,225 - Fucking hell. - Fucking hell. Right. 925 00:52:46,305 --> 00:52:47,945 - Fucking hell. - Taxi. 926 00:52:48,225 --> 00:52:49,545 Oh shit. 927 00:52:50,345 --> 00:52:52,785 We're sure this is right, a woman journalist? 928 00:52:52,985 --> 00:52:54,825 The optics say she has to be female. 929 00:52:54,945 --> 00:52:56,385 I agree. 930 00:52:56,465 --> 00:52:57,705 Well, she's cocky. 931 00:52:58,865 --> 00:53:00,065 You can handle her. 932 00:53:06,105 --> 00:53:07,545 Your Royal Highness, 933 00:53:08,505 --> 00:53:10,305 as far as you’re aware, 934 00:53:10,945 --> 00:53:13,905 did you ever have sex with Virginia Giuffre? 935 00:53:16,825 --> 00:53:20,345 Okay. Uh, what's my strategy in this bit? 936 00:53:20,425 --> 00:53:23,545 Mm, well, it... it's... it's two targets, isn't it? 937 00:53:23,625 --> 00:53:27,345 It's... it's why did he stay at a convicted paedophiles house? 938 00:53:27,425 --> 00:53:30,465 And did he have sex with Giuffre when she was underage? 939 00:53:30,545 --> 00:53:33,785 No. If I ask either of those outright, I'll lose him. 940 00:53:33,865 --> 00:53:35,345 I need to build it. 941 00:53:35,425 --> 00:53:37,385 Alright, so... so build. 942 00:53:37,945 --> 00:53:41,025 You know, start wide and then narrow it down, 943 00:53:41,105 --> 00:53:43,265 like a police interview, beat by beat. 944 00:53:43,345 --> 00:53:45,105 And if you ever denies having met Giuffre, 945 00:53:45,185 --> 00:53:47,185 you show him that picture, okay. 946 00:53:47,465 --> 00:53:49,465 That photo never leaves your side. 947 00:53:49,545 --> 00:53:51,585 - They think that's fake, no? - Well, we're looking into it. 948 00:53:51,665 --> 00:53:54,265 Yeah, it's really hard to analyse, so... 949 00:53:56,425 --> 00:53:58,905 Okay, let... let's go again from did you have sex, et cetera. 950 00:53:58,985 --> 00:54:00,585 And let's refer to her by her maiden name 951 00:54:00,665 --> 00:54:02,185 when Andrew met her. 952 00:54:02,905 --> 00:54:03,985 Allegedly. 953 00:54:11,425 --> 00:54:12,785 Your Royal Highness, 954 00:54:14,105 --> 00:54:15,505 to your knowledge, 955 00:54:16,105 --> 00:54:19,705 did you ever have sex... with Virginia Roberts? 956 00:54:19,785 --> 00:54:21,785 Emily, I've answered that question already. 957 00:54:21,865 --> 00:54:23,785 And frankly, that kind of salacious questioning 958 00:54:23,865 --> 00:54:25,185 should be beneath the BBC. 959 00:54:25,265 --> 00:54:26,345 No, no. 960 00:54:26,425 --> 00:54:27,745 God, he's not that aggressive, is he? 961 00:54:27,825 --> 00:54:29,265 I mean, you saw him in the room, right? 962 00:54:29,345 --> 00:54:31,185 Well, he might be. You don't know. 963 00:54:31,425 --> 00:54:33,025 Right, go again. Next question. 964 00:54:33,305 --> 00:54:34,465 Right. 965 00:54:36,665 --> 00:54:38,505 Nevertheless, Your Royal Highness, 966 00:54:38,585 --> 00:54:40,865 Virginia Roberts is adamant 967 00:54:40,945 --> 00:54:43,225 that when she was 17- years old, 968 00:54:43,625 --> 00:54:45,785 you had sex with her three times. 969 00:54:45,865 --> 00:54:47,785 I've never met this woman in my life. 970 00:54:48,025 --> 00:54:50,945 And even if I had, the age of consent here is 16. 971 00:54:51,025 --> 00:54:52,825 And I most certainly wouldn't have known 972 00:54:52,905 --> 00:54:53,785 if she'd been trafficked. 973 00:54:53,865 --> 00:54:56,865 She says she met you in 2001. 974 00:54:57,865 --> 00:54:59,985 She says she dined with you, 975 00:55:00,305 --> 00:55:03,625 danced with you at Tramp Nightclub in London. 976 00:55:04,705 --> 00:55:06,905 She then went on to have sex with you in a... 977 00:55:06,985 --> 00:55:08,825 Like, let me be clear, Emily, 978 00:55:08,905 --> 00:55:11,185 I am as appalled as everyone else 979 00:55:11,265 --> 00:55:12,905 by what Jeffrey Epstein did. 980 00:55:13,105 --> 00:55:15,225 And my heart goes out to those young women 981 00:55:15,305 --> 00:55:17,985 whose lives have been ruined by his heinous crimes. 982 00:55:18,065 --> 00:55:20,025 But that is not at my door. 983 00:55:24,505 --> 00:55:25,585 - Wait. - Alright, well, look, 984 00:55:25,665 --> 00:55:27,425 first off, this is a journalistic interview, 985 00:55:27,505 --> 00:55:28,625 not an encounter with the Royals. 986 00:55:28,705 --> 00:55:29,705 So, drop the Royal Highness, 987 00:55:29,785 --> 00:55:31,225 just say it once at the beginning 988 00:55:31,305 --> 00:55:32,745 and... and then you treat him like any other man 989 00:55:32,825 --> 00:55:34,825 facing allegations of sexual assault. 990 00:55:39,745 --> 00:55:41,105 Alright. 991 00:55:41,305 --> 00:55:42,505 Let's go again. 992 00:55:45,585 --> 00:55:47,025 I'm going to bed. 993 00:55:49,905 --> 00:55:51,025 You should get some rest. 994 00:55:51,105 --> 00:55:52,185 Mm-hmm. 995 00:56:07,505 --> 00:56:09,945 You know, at the end of my meeting with Prince Andrew, 996 00:56:11,265 --> 00:56:14,025 he asked if I'd ever been the victim of abuse. 997 00:56:18,105 --> 00:56:20,745 I suppose they were bound to check you out. 998 00:56:21,465 --> 00:56:23,665 Yeah, still, it felt horrible. 999 00:56:25,905 --> 00:56:27,225 What did you say? 1000 00:56:28,105 --> 00:56:29,345 Well, nothing. 1001 00:56:30,585 --> 00:56:33,105 Having a stalker is not remotely comparable. 1002 00:56:35,825 --> 00:56:37,465 And I don't want to talk about it. 1003 00:56:37,545 --> 00:56:38,385 Oh. 1004 00:56:43,265 --> 00:56:44,345 Okay. 1005 00:56:44,985 --> 00:56:46,305 What are you gonna wear? 1006 00:57:00,065 --> 00:57:02,545 Okay, dress or trousers? 1007 00:57:03,065 --> 00:57:05,065 Oh, uh, trousers. 1008 00:57:05,185 --> 00:57:06,385 Trousers. 1009 00:57:07,065 --> 00:57:08,425 Is that a military jacket? 1010 00:57:08,505 --> 00:57:09,785 Faux military. 1011 00:57:09,865 --> 00:57:10,825 Seriously? 1012 00:57:10,905 --> 00:57:12,785 Yeah. I thought it would make him feel at home. 1013 00:57:14,585 --> 00:57:16,265 Is it a bit flirty? 1014 00:57:16,345 --> 00:57:18,065 Trojan Horse darling, Trojan Horse. 1015 00:57:18,145 --> 00:57:18,985 Okay. 1016 00:57:19,065 --> 00:57:20,905 Uh, monarchist... 1017 00:57:23,025 --> 00:57:24,185 or feminist? 1018 00:57:24,305 --> 00:57:25,625 First wave or third wave? 1019 00:57:25,705 --> 00:57:26,905 Well, third, obviously. 1020 00:57:26,985 --> 00:57:28,665 Uh, alright, well you... you wear the beige ones 1021 00:57:28,745 --> 00:57:29,985 you're saying you’re his subject. 1022 00:57:30,065 --> 00:57:31,905 You wear the sexy ones, the Daily Mail will say 1023 00:57:31,985 --> 00:57:33,225 you were trying to distract him. 1024 00:57:33,625 --> 00:57:35,665 Fuck the Mail. Sexy heels it is. 1025 00:57:36,185 --> 00:57:37,105 Right. 1026 00:57:38,265 --> 00:57:39,145 Wait, where’s Stew? 1027 00:57:39,225 --> 00:57:41,185 He's taken his wife to their first antenatal class. 1028 00:57:41,265 --> 00:57:42,625 Oh, sweet. 1029 00:57:43,265 --> 00:57:44,265 But he's still on it, right? 1030 00:57:44,705 --> 00:57:47,025 Heaven forbid his first baby should keep him from work. 1031 00:57:47,265 --> 00:57:49,305 Oh, yeah, my thoughts exactly. 1032 00:57:49,385 --> 00:57:52,145 I think we have to assume that the interview's going ahead. 1033 00:57:52,225 --> 00:57:54,105 Press secretary's no longer with him. 1034 00:57:54,185 --> 00:57:55,985 Liability doesn't begin to describe it. 1035 00:57:56,065 --> 00:57:57,425 We need to tread carefully. 1036 00:57:57,505 --> 00:57:59,865 We can't intervene while the queen supports him. 1037 00:58:00,705 --> 00:58:04,265 If by some miracle he pulls it off, we do nothing. 1038 00:58:04,745 --> 00:58:06,945 If, as I suspect, he fails, 1039 00:58:08,265 --> 00:58:11,105 I'd like you to be there when they interview him. 1040 00:58:11,185 --> 00:58:12,385 - Fine. - Don't say anything. 1041 00:58:12,465 --> 00:58:13,865 Just be a presence in the room. 1042 00:58:13,945 --> 00:58:15,865 I want the prince to know that we're watching. 1043 00:58:15,945 --> 00:58:17,225 All options open. 1044 00:58:29,065 --> 00:58:30,185 Gee up, Pup. 1045 00:58:30,825 --> 00:58:32,505 Last one back’s a fatty. 1046 00:58:35,385 --> 00:58:36,265 Come on. 1047 00:58:40,025 --> 00:58:41,425 Come with me. 1048 00:58:42,105 --> 00:58:43,105 What? 1049 00:58:43,625 --> 00:58:46,265 Transcript for Panorama's piece on Prince Andrew 1050 00:58:46,345 --> 00:58:47,665 and the Epstein scandal. 1051 00:58:47,745 --> 00:58:49,865 Since when do Panorama share their stuff with us? 1052 00:58:49,945 --> 00:58:53,265 I told the editor they could use our interview once we've aired. 1053 00:58:53,345 --> 00:58:57,145 Right, this is Virginia Giuffre talking on camera 1054 00:58:57,225 --> 00:58:58,905 about having sex with Prince Andrew. 1055 00:58:59,385 --> 00:59:02,625 Uh, it says... it didn't last very long. 1056 00:59:02,785 --> 00:59:04,065 He wasn't mean or anything, 1057 00:59:04,145 --> 00:59:06,425 but afterwards he said, thank you. 1058 00:59:06,625 --> 00:59:07,985 She felt utterly ashamed. 1059 00:59:08,065 --> 00:59:09,385 She had to go and have a shower. 1060 00:59:09,465 --> 00:59:12,545 It was... it was a... a wicked time in my life, 1061 00:59:12,625 --> 00:59:14,145 a really scary time in my life. 1062 00:59:14,225 --> 00:59:15,585 There's more, loads more. 1063 00:59:15,665 --> 00:59:16,785 She says he sweats like a pig. 1064 00:59:16,865 --> 00:59:18,865 She said he danced with her at Tramp Nightclub 1065 00:59:18,945 --> 00:59:21,465 and that there were witnesses that saw them there together. 1066 00:59:24,025 --> 00:59:25,545 Does Prince Andrew know about this? 1067 00:59:25,625 --> 00:59:27,985 Not yet. But as soon as that Panorama goes out, he will. 1068 00:59:28,065 --> 00:59:29,665 - When does it air? - Three weeks. 1069 00:59:29,745 --> 00:59:31,065 December 2nd. 1070 00:59:31,745 --> 00:59:33,065 Well, he mustn't hear about this in advance. 1071 00:59:33,185 --> 00:59:35,025 If he does, he's gonna... he's gonna pull out. 1072 00:59:35,105 --> 00:59:36,825 So, we've a 24 hour window. 1073 00:59:36,905 --> 00:59:39,265 Don't tell anybody else about it. 1074 00:59:39,345 --> 00:59:40,545 No. 1075 00:59:41,425 --> 00:59:42,625 Okay. 1076 00:59:43,265 --> 00:59:44,985 Are you sure Panorama won’t leak it? 1077 00:59:45,105 --> 00:59:46,665 As sure as I can be. 1078 00:59:47,185 --> 00:59:48,705 If they do? 1079 00:59:49,185 --> 00:59:50,465 We're fucked. 1080 00:59:58,785 --> 01:00:00,185 Are you ready for tomorrow? 1081 01:00:00,265 --> 01:00:01,305 Mm. 1082 01:00:01,665 --> 01:00:02,945 It's gonna be okay, Pups. 1083 01:00:04,745 --> 01:00:07,625 People forget... I've been to war. 1084 01:00:08,465 --> 01:00:12,225 I promise you I'm gonna blow this out the water.