WEBVTT 00:16.377 --> 00:17.697 JESS:Do you really have to go to work? 00:17.697 --> 00:19.257 I don't have a choice. 00:20.617 --> 00:23.577 [Betsey crying] - You will be okay. Oh... 00:24.377 --> 00:26.057 You will be okay. You will be okay. 00:26.297 --> 00:27.897 [Betsey continues crying] 00:28.417 --> 00:31.457 Boys, are you excited to show off your baby sister? 00:31.457 --> 00:33.377 BOTH:Yeah! 00:33.377 --> 00:35.737 [Betsey continues crying] 00:38.377 --> 00:40.097 CHILD:Mum, where's the butter? 00:40.097 --> 00:41.977 Just a minute. I am coming down. 00:41.977 --> 00:45.337 [Betsey continues crying] 00:47.697 --> 00:50.417 No! No! 00:50.737 --> 00:53.817 Betsey. Betsey! 00:56.017 --> 00:57.657 [Betsey continues crying] 01:01.217 --> 01:02.937 I am a bad mother. 01:04.017 --> 01:06.737 A bad, bad mother. 01:15.897 --> 01:18.777 [Betsey continues crying] 02:12.377 --> 02:14.537 [music fades] 02:16.697 --> 02:19.257 [monitor beeping] 02:25.337 --> 02:26.977 You off? - Yeah. 02:28.177 --> 02:29.817 I hope you have a quiet one. 02:30.217 --> 02:31.417 I am gonna say goodnight to Betsey. 02:31.417 --> 02:32.457 Okay. See you. 02:36.057 --> 02:38.217 [phone ringing] 02:41.737 --> 02:42.657 Hello? 02:44.217 --> 02:47.697 [monitor beeping] 02:51.177 --> 02:52.897 Shit! 02:54.417 --> 02:56.257 When did you last do your rounds? - Ten, 11 minutes ago. 02:56.257 --> 02:57.577 Betsey was in her bed? - Yes, of course. 02:57.577 --> 03:00.177 She should still be there. - She is gone. 03:00.177 --> 03:01.497 Look, we need to tell security. 03:01.497 --> 03:03.977 Call the police. - No. Not yet. Not yet! 03:04.097 --> 03:05.337 Why not? - Because she might 03:05.337 --> 03:07.097 be with her mum. She won't have gone far. 03:07.097 --> 03:08.857 This is madness. That baby is under police protection. 03:08.857 --> 03:10.817 Please, Sheila, just do what I say. 03:14.497 --> 03:17.017 Have you seen Mrs Carrisford? - No. 03:26.697 --> 03:29.337 [breathing heavily] 03:32.577 --> 03:34.257 Baby abduction. Notify security. 03:34.257 --> 03:37.497 All staff to man main exit doors. 03:38.377 --> 03:40.217 Put me through to the police. 03:45.257 --> 03:46.137 Oye. 03:47.537 --> 03:49.257 [Indistinct chatter] 03:50.177 --> 03:51.457 [Indistinct chatter] 04:00.577 --> 04:03.017 Make sure you have checked the CCTV. 04:07.777 --> 04:10.377 [Indistinct chatter] 04:12.497 --> 04:13.537 Jess! 04:15.977 --> 04:17.977 [siren wailing] 04:20.097 --> 04:22.617 [baby crying] 04:23.137 --> 04:24.097 Jess. 04:25.297 --> 04:26.577 Jess? 04:27.137 --> 04:29.777 Jess. Jess, please. 04:30.177 --> 04:31.377 Let's just talk. 04:32.897 --> 04:34.297 Please talk to me. 04:38.617 --> 04:40.177 Jess... 04:48.057 --> 04:49.857 They were gonna take her. 04:50.897 --> 04:51.937 I am going to protect her. 04:51.937 --> 04:53.817 Yeah. No, I know you did. I know you did. 04:54.617 --> 04:58.057 But this is not the way to do it. Please. 04:59.017 --> 05:00.897 Betsey's condition is still really serious, Jess. 05:00.897 --> 05:02.337 And we can't monitor her when she is out here. 05:02.337 --> 05:05.417 We can't... we can't help her if she has another seizure. 05:05.417 --> 05:08.257 We have got no oxygen or anything. Please. 05:09.257 --> 05:12.137 Jess, I know you wouldn't want to hurt her. 05:12.137 --> 05:13.457 [Betsey fussing] 05:13.457 --> 05:15.177 It's just... wait. Just give me a minute. 05:15.177 --> 05:16.737 Gimme a minute. 05:18.337 --> 05:20.777 Please, Jess, just open the door. Let's talk. 05:23.337 --> 05:24.657 Unlock the door. 05:27.257 --> 05:28.617 Okay. 05:30.257 --> 05:31.337 Okay. 05:31.857 --> 05:34.777 Please, I promise, I promise I will take care of her. 05:36.817 --> 05:38.777 I am never gonna forgive you for this. 05:39.857 --> 05:41.097 Well, that's a shame. 05:41.097 --> 05:44.137 I am sorry you feel like that, Jess, because 05:44.457 --> 05:46.577 [Betsey crying] 05:47.177 --> 05:48.617 I believe you. 05:49.777 --> 05:52.297 Jess, I know, I know you didn't hurt Betsey. 05:55.577 --> 05:56.857 Please. 05:58.057 --> 05:59.737 I know. Come on. 06:01.057 --> 06:03.297 I know. Come on. It's okay. 06:03.297 --> 06:04.977 It's okay. There's a good girl. 06:05.617 --> 06:07.257 Well done, Jess. 06:07.857 --> 06:09.897 [Betsey continues crying] 06:13.617 --> 06:16.017 It's okay, baby. It's okay. 06:16.537 --> 06:18.257 OFFICER: Can you please step out of the vehicle? 06:50.697 --> 06:52.097 It's bedtime. 07:01.257 --> 07:03.337 That's it. Come on. Night-night. 07:08.137 --> 07:09.457 Sweet dreams. 07:20.777 --> 07:22.737 DC RUSTIN:Stand up, please, Mrs Carrisford. 07:23.857 --> 07:25.137 Jessica Carrisford, I am arresting you 07:25.137 --> 07:26.657 for abducting a child in care. 07:26.657 --> 07:28.737 You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence 07:28.737 --> 07:29.977 if you do not mention when questioned 07:29.977 --> 07:31.497 something which you later rely on in court. 07:31.497 --> 07:34.097 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 07:46.097 --> 07:47.537 Be gentle with her. 07:57.737 --> 07:59.657 I don't think Jess even knew what she wanted to do 07:59.657 --> 08:01.297 when she took Betsey. 08:01.297 --> 08:03.017 I don't think she was thinking that far ahead. 08:03.017 --> 08:04.217 I... 08:04.217 --> 08:07.097 I think she believed that just in that moment 08:08.217 --> 08:10.257 Betsey needed her more. 08:14.697 --> 08:19.177 Charl, this can't be a repeat of Friday. 08:20.577 --> 08:23.057 You know what? You can't actually kick me out tonight. 08:23.377 --> 08:25.657 Remember? The safety plan. 08:25.657 --> 08:28.057 I legally have to be here. Bad luck! 08:28.937 --> 08:30.697 Just don't tell Rustin that you are sleeping over. 08:30.697 --> 08:32.617 He is already convinced we are having an affair. 08:33.137 --> 08:34.497 What? The bar! 08:34.817 --> 08:36.817 The copious amounts of alcohol. 08:37.297 --> 08:39.897 I can see how he reached that conclusion. 08:49.697 --> 08:50.977 Eddie. - Hm? 08:55.977 --> 08:58.097 Andrew, he is a really wonderful man. 08:58.097 --> 09:01.457 I mean, we don't even fight, but he is not um... 09:02.657 --> 09:03.817 He is not... 09:05.697 --> 09:07.297 He is not you! 09:09.057 --> 09:11.617 So, I don't know how you feel. Okay? 09:11.617 --> 09:13.497 But for me, it's always been the same. 09:13.897 --> 09:15.297 I can't bear seeing you like this. 09:15.297 --> 09:17.057 And so I am just, I am going to say it. 09:17.657 --> 09:20.457 I am going to say it out loud, and then it's just done, okay? 09:21.337 --> 09:22.377 Yeah. 09:27.377 --> 09:28.977 I am in love with you. 09:31.977 --> 09:33.937 I love you, Ed. 09:37.097 --> 09:38.297 I always have. 09:39.897 --> 09:40.817 And... 09:43.057 --> 09:47.417 I am... Yeah, I am prepared to leave Andrew for you. 10:08.697 --> 10:10.577 Oh, Charlotte. 10:15.697 --> 10:17.057 Oh, my God. 10:19.977 --> 10:22.417 I am... I am so sorry. 10:23.937 --> 10:24.977 Charlotte. 10:26.217 --> 10:31.137 You are my dear, dear friend. I think the world of you. 10:32.777 --> 10:34.657 But I do love Jess. 10:35.977 --> 10:38.817 I am going to do everything I can to protect her 10:38.817 --> 10:40.017 and be there for her. 10:40.017 --> 10:45.457 I am sorry, but, you and I, that... this can't happen. 10:45.977 --> 10:48.977 [phone ringing] 10:48.977 --> 10:50.617 It's Liz. You should... 10:54.737 --> 10:55.617 LIZ:Ed? - Yeah. 10:55.977 --> 10:58.377 Jess has been arrested. She tried to take Betsey. 10:58.377 --> 11:01.137 What? - Baby's okay, though. 11:01.137 --> 11:02.897 Oh, my God. Okay. 11:04.217 --> 11:05.737 Jess just tried to abduct Betsey. 11:05.737 --> 11:09.137 Ed? - Go on. Where's Jess now? 11:09.697 --> 11:11.497 All right. Thank you. Thanks, Liz. 11:39.497 --> 11:40.617 Hello? 11:48.657 --> 11:49.817 Hello? 11:54.097 --> 11:55.657 ROB:You're home then? 11:59.257 --> 12:02.697 Yeah. I want to see Connor. - Oh. 12:03.977 --> 12:05.297 Feeling guilty? 12:06.457 --> 12:08.777 No. - He doesn't want to see you. 12:10.297 --> 12:12.457 I need to ask him about what happened today. 12:13.137 --> 12:14.497 Has he told you anything? 12:16.137 --> 12:18.937 I don't want a bully for a son. - Connor's not a bully. 12:19.657 --> 12:21.057 You sure about that, are you? 12:22.657 --> 12:23.657 Yeah. 12:28.937 --> 12:30.697 Did you take money out of my account? 12:31.617 --> 12:33.777 My card got declined today. - Yeah, I did. 12:33.777 --> 12:35.337 I needed to top up the mortgage payment. 12:35.337 --> 12:37.617 But I will put some money into your account later. 12:38.257 --> 12:39.857 My phone's not working. 12:41.817 --> 12:43.577 Well, I forgot to pay the bill. 12:52.657 --> 12:54.297 Are things really that bad? 13:04.137 --> 13:06.817 I don't know why you just won't let me get a job. 13:09.497 --> 13:10.417 Um... 13:13.377 --> 13:14.897 Doing what exactly? 13:16.697 --> 13:19.617 Sorry, remind me what it is that you are qualified to do. 13:25.577 --> 13:27.577 Where are you going? Come on. - To see Connor. 13:28.057 --> 13:30.817 Well, bad luck, cos he is at my sister's, so... 13:31.737 --> 13:33.137 What, don't you believe me? 13:48.577 --> 13:51.737 Andrew, what is going on? How far did she get- 13:51.737 --> 13:53.177 They won't even tell me why they have arrested 13:53.177 --> 13:53.417 - Ed, 13:53.417 --> 13:54.417 go home. 13:54.937 --> 13:56.257 You are not doing anyone any good here. 13:56.257 --> 13:58.057 I am not gonna leave! 13:59.017 --> 14:01.177 I have just spoken to the duty sergeant and they have told me 14:01.177 --> 14:02.857 they are not going to interview her tonight. 14:04.257 --> 14:05.577 They are going to... they are going to keep her? 14:05.577 --> 14:07.457 They can keep her for 24 hours. 14:09.337 --> 14:11.137 Go be with your boys. 14:12.137 --> 14:13.777 Yeah, all right. 14:38.737 --> 14:41.537 JESS:Bad, bad mother. 15:44.617 --> 15:47.257 [Betsey crying] 15:48.817 --> 15:51.577 NURSE:Female, active labour, 39 weeks. 15:53.257 --> 15:54.577 JESS:What's happening? 15:57.457 --> 15:58.977 NURSE:Baby is stuck. 16:01.417 --> 16:03.697 [Jess screaming] 16:04.337 --> 16:07.617 NURSE:Push now! We need to get her out. 16:09.097 --> 16:10.337 No! 16:20.817 --> 16:22.657 JESS:Is she dead? 16:30.217 --> 16:33.137 NURSE:Placenta won't detach. She is bleeding out. 16:33.137 --> 16:38.057 [flatline tone] 17:10.337 --> 17:13.297 [door opening] ANDREW:Jess. 17:15.977 --> 17:17.737 Oh, thank God. 17:17.737 --> 17:20.537 Oh, Andrew. - How are you? 17:23.217 --> 17:26.257 I brought you some food and a proper coffee. 17:26.777 --> 17:28.057 Thank you. 17:36.617 --> 17:38.857 Now, if you agree to instruct me, 17:38.857 --> 17:41.457 I will act as your legal representative today. 17:41.457 --> 17:42.617 Yeah. 17:44.217 --> 17:45.297 Thank you. 17:50.097 --> 17:51.817 Her lawyer's arrived. 17:52.817 --> 17:55.257 So, current timeline we are working to. 17:55.257 --> 17:56.697 Friday after school, 17:56.697 --> 17:58.857 Jess is at home alone with their two youngest. 17:58.857 --> 18:01.817 She claims that Betsey slips, bumps her head on the fridge. 18:01.817 --> 18:04.337 But SOCO found no DNA evidence backing this up. 18:04.337 --> 18:07.337 Their eldest, Kit, arrives home at 6:45 from football. 18:07.337 --> 18:09.617 And Jill Baker, the parent who dropped Kit off, 18:09.617 --> 18:11.417 hears the baby crying from the driveway. 18:11.417 --> 18:14.537 But Jess claims that she puts the kids to bed as normal. 18:14.777 --> 18:16.897 She turns in herself around nine. 18:17.657 --> 18:20.417 Ed gets home at ten, inebriated, finds the baby in distress. 18:20.417 --> 18:22.537 Raises the alarm. - Anything else? 18:22.857 --> 18:26.537 I asked Financial Investigations to expand their check. 18:28.137 --> 18:30.337 Look at the time of that transaction. 18:31.297 --> 18:34.257 Whose card was used? - Jessica Carrisford. 18:35.177 --> 18:37.497 Have we sent a PCSO to pull CCTV? 18:37.497 --> 18:40.017 Yeah. For now, we have got to focus on this interview. 18:41.697 --> 18:42.937 What are you thinking? 18:43.177 --> 18:45.017 I think the Carrisfords lived a very charmed life 18:45.017 --> 18:46.417 until child number three. 18:46.417 --> 18:48.257 That's when everything started to fall apart. 18:49.777 --> 18:51.177 Are we looking at a violent mother 18:51.177 --> 18:52.977 who hurt her child on purpose? 18:53.417 --> 18:57.737 Or a desperate woman who accidentally lost control? 19:00.097 --> 19:02.017 Yeah, I mean, either way, 19:02.017 --> 19:03.617 she put her sick child at serious risk 19:03.617 --> 19:05.537 by snatching her from ICU last night. 19:05.537 --> 19:07.777 Hmm. Oh, last thing. - Yeah? 19:08.377 --> 19:11.977 Her lawyer, Andrew Hinman, married to Charlotte Hinman. 19:13.337 --> 19:16.577 Quite the tight knit, well-to-do social circle, isn't it? 19:22.337 --> 19:25.497 Now, I have to ask, has anyone interviewed you 19:25.497 --> 19:28.137 since you were taken into custody? - No. 19:28.137 --> 19:30.497 Has anyone made you sign anything? 19:32.457 --> 19:33.777 Have you said anything to the police 19:33.777 --> 19:36.777 that I need to be made aware of, when they brought you in? 19:38.497 --> 19:41.617 Like what? What are you suggesting? 19:42.937 --> 19:46.217 It's just all a big blur, last night. I don't remember much. 19:46.937 --> 19:49.697 Jess, I am here as your friend, but I am also your lawyer now. 19:50.177 --> 19:53.217 I will protect you, but you have to be completely honest with me. 19:54.177 --> 19:55.857 Of course. 19:56.537 --> 19:58.657 So, is there something that you want to tell me? 19:59.377 --> 20:01.297 Something you haven't told anyone 20:01.857 --> 20:03.257 about what happened? 20:08.577 --> 20:10.617 They weren't looking after her. 20:16.217 --> 20:19.217 [bell ringing] 20:19.817 --> 20:21.897 Anyway, I should get him in. 20:22.257 --> 20:24.097 [Indistinct chatter] 20:24.417 --> 20:25.977 F***k's sake, Rob. Why did you rush them in? 20:25.977 --> 20:27.777 Oh, steady. - I wanted to talk to Connor. 20:27.777 --> 20:29.137 I wanted to say goodbye. - I am sorry. 20:29.137 --> 20:31.737 You knew that! - Sorry, I didn't see you. 20:31.737 --> 20:34.577 And I am not a mind-reader. - Why are you doing this? 20:34.577 --> 20:35.697 Doing what? What are you talking about? 20:35.697 --> 20:36.977 I am really sorry about this. - Sorry. 20:36.977 --> 20:39.297 What are you talking about? I have been waving the kids off to school. 20:39.297 --> 20:41.817 You know, it's really hard for them not to feel abandoned, 20:41.817 --> 20:43.617 yeah, when their mum's just left them. 20:43.617 --> 20:45.617 You are punishing me. - What? 20:45.617 --> 20:48.177 All I am doing is helping our friends out for a few days. - Mel, 20:48.177 --> 20:50.417 you are my partner, and I love you, 20:50.417 --> 20:51.897 and I want you to come home tonight, 20:51.897 --> 20:54.537 or just don't f***g bother coming back at all. 20:56.537 --> 20:59.737 No, do you know what, Rob? I am not doing this any more. 20:59.737 --> 21:00.977 I have had enough! 21:01.937 --> 21:03.977 Mel! Hey, Mel. Mel. 21:04.777 --> 21:06.577 You are coming home with me. Come on. 21:06.897 --> 21:07.777 Come on. 21:14.217 --> 21:16.457 There you go, love. - Thank you. 21:23.337 --> 21:24.457 Nick. 21:25.977 --> 21:27.697 There's gonna be a clinical incident report 21:27.697 --> 21:29.977 with my name on it, and that is not good. 21:30.097 --> 21:32.337 But what happened isn't your fault. 21:33.337 --> 21:34.737 And whatever she is going through, 21:34.737 --> 21:36.617 she is obviously not coping, so... 21:36.617 --> 21:38.937 Yeah, and then I went and made it worse. 21:43.377 --> 21:45.617 I could have just put a note on her file. 21:50.537 --> 21:52.697 The minute she came into A&E on Friday night, 21:52.697 --> 21:54.937 I never gave her enough time. 21:55.617 --> 21:58.497 You know, I was just focused on the baby. 21:58.497 --> 21:59.977 I was in work mode. 22:00.097 --> 22:01.657 I didn't treat her like a friend. 22:01.977 --> 22:03.657 I treated her like a stranger. 22:04.377 --> 22:06.977 I just think you are being a little hard on yourself. 22:07.537 --> 22:10.617 You know, if you are in a safeguarding role, 22:10.937 --> 22:12.137 you have to act. 22:15.297 --> 22:16.697 So you would have done it? 22:19.417 --> 22:21.857 Would I have called social services on Jess? 22:22.137 --> 22:23.737 Probably. I don't know. 22:24.097 --> 22:25.937 It's hard. It's Jess. 22:26.337 --> 22:27.137 Right? 22:37.337 --> 22:38.657 How's the hangover? 22:40.497 --> 22:42.297 I am not... I don't... 22:42.857 --> 22:43.977 It's bin day. 22:44.617 --> 22:46.057 I found the bottle of prosecco. 22:47.977 --> 22:49.857 Oh, don't start! 22:49.857 --> 22:51.257 Honestly! 22:51.697 --> 22:54.297 It's like my first drink in three days! 22:57.137 --> 22:58.977 Well done on your remarkable restraint. 22:59.097 --> 23:00.217 Yeah, thanks. Thank you. 23:00.217 --> 23:02.257 I surprise myself sometimes. 23:10.817 --> 23:12.337 Shouldn't you be at school? 23:13.537 --> 23:16.377 It's careers morning. I have got a free period. 23:21.977 --> 23:24.737 You know, a whole bottle of prosecco at midnight 23:24.737 --> 23:26.537 is not nothing. 23:51.657 --> 23:52.817 I am sorry. 23:56.257 --> 23:57.297 It won't happen again. 23:57.737 --> 24:01.097 It will, until you realise that you can't just have one drink. 24:01.097 --> 24:03.137 All right. Everybody's got their own 24:03.697 --> 24:05.777 unhealthy coping mechanisms, haven't they? 24:05.777 --> 24:09.137 It's just, it's not every day. - Yes, it is! 24:11.217 --> 24:12.537 And I am worried. 24:15.777 --> 24:17.417 Mrs Carrisford. 24:21.217 --> 24:22.577 Great. 24:25.457 --> 24:27.657 So there'll be a buzzing for a couple of seconds, 24:27.657 --> 24:28.977 and then we can start. 24:29.617 --> 24:31.097 [buzzing sound] 24:33.737 --> 24:34.937 Okay, Jess. 24:35.897 --> 24:38.097 Tell us about when you took Betsey. 24:40.337 --> 24:41.617 Why did you do it? 24:44.577 --> 24:47.457 Because I love her. And I was worried about her. 24:47.457 --> 24:50.257 But taking her away meant you put her in danger. 24:51.777 --> 24:55.097 I wasn't thinking. I was trying to protect her. 24:55.657 --> 24:57.857 I thought they were going to take her away from me. 25:00.297 --> 25:02.897 You grew up in the US, didn't you? - Yes. 25:02.897 --> 25:04.817 Somewhere without a public health care system. 25:05.337 --> 25:07.897 And you don't care for our medical system? 25:09.937 --> 25:12.137 I don't really trust doctors. 25:12.137 --> 25:14.257 I don't think they always know best. 25:14.257 --> 25:16.937 And you don't like medicating your children, is that right? 25:18.577 --> 25:21.697 Not unless it's strictly necessary. 25:23.017 --> 25:26.497 And you don't believe in vaccinating your children? 25:27.137 --> 25:29.377 I believe vaccines are risky 25:29.377 --> 25:32.377 and that drug companies aren't always transparent. 25:32.377 --> 25:35.257 But that's an informed choice. That's hardly a crime. 25:36.657 --> 25:39.417 Look, I know it's an unpopular opinion, but 25:40.337 --> 25:43.537 I am trying to do what's best for my children. 25:44.217 --> 25:46.497 And to keep them safe, always. 25:48.217 --> 25:50.417 And do you always try to keep Betsey safe, Jess? 25:50.737 --> 25:52.737 Of course I do. That's what mothers do. 25:52.737 --> 25:56.137 But you didn't keep her safe on Friday, did you? - Yes, I did. 25:56.137 --> 25:58.577 Well, then can you explain to me why it took you over five hours 25:58.577 --> 25:59.977 to bring her into the hospital? 26:00.097 --> 26:01.817 Because I am a bad mother. 26:02.697 --> 26:05.937 I told you. I didn't want to overreact. 26:05.937 --> 26:08.377 I told you all of this already. 26:08.817 --> 26:12.097 It didn't seem any more serious than a tumble that my two boys 26:12.097 --> 26:13.737 might have had when they were toddlers. 26:13.737 --> 26:16.057 You are a bad mother? - An evil mother? 26:17.377 --> 26:19.977 My client has said she didn't realise the severity of the injury. 26:19.977 --> 26:21.497 Yeah, but you didn't even bring her in 26:21.497 --> 26:22.937 after she had been sick in her cot. 26:22.937 --> 26:24.057 That's a clear sign of a concussion. 26:24.057 --> 26:26.297 I didn't know that she had been sick. 26:26.297 --> 26:27.457 I was asleep. - Right. 26:27.457 --> 26:30.537 According to your husband, you were in bed. 26:32.257 --> 26:34.777 It had been quite a day, and I was exhausted. 26:35.097 --> 26:38.657 But if I had known that she was sick or was crying, 26:38.657 --> 26:42.097 of course I would have gone in. I mean, I am not a monster. 26:42.097 --> 26:43.337 I am not the mother you think I am. 26:43.337 --> 26:46.737 By all accounts, you are an attentive mother, a good mother, 26:46.737 --> 26:47.977 aren't you, Jess? 26:49.217 --> 26:50.177 Yes. 26:50.177 --> 26:52.697 Your children are always well dressed and fed. 26:53.097 --> 26:54.857 Look, there was nothing else of any concern 26:54.857 --> 26:56.137 on Betsey's skeletal survey. 26:56.577 --> 26:58.857 And we have seen the social media posts, 26:58.857 --> 27:01.577 the happy kids and the beautiful home. 27:02.057 --> 27:02.897 Okay. 27:05.097 --> 27:07.257 So what I am struggling to understand 27:07.257 --> 27:10.417 is what happened that made you dismiss Betsey's injuries 27:10.417 --> 27:13.057 as something that didn't need hospital attention. 27:13.537 --> 27:15.777 Because an attentive mother is always alert 27:15.777 --> 27:17.857 to the possibility of her baby waking up. 27:17.857 --> 27:21.217 She doesn't just lie there ignoring her baby. 27:21.217 --> 27:22.857 I was not ignoring her. - My client has said 27:22.857 --> 27:24.897 she was exhausted, she fell asleep. 27:28.817 --> 27:29.977 What does your husband think 27:29.977 --> 27:31.657 of your relationship with Betsey, Jess? 27:31.897 --> 27:34.817 What? - Does Ed think that you are bonded with Betsey? 27:34.817 --> 27:37.817 Does he think you are in tune with Betsey's needs? 27:38.977 --> 27:41.137 I think so. - Isn't that what you argued about? 27:41.137 --> 27:42.137 Isn't that why he had 27:42.137 --> 27:44.417 to come home Friday lunchtime to check up on you? 27:44.697 --> 27:47.737 Because he was concerned about your relationship with your daughter. 27:49.617 --> 27:50.697 How does that make you feel? 27:50.697 --> 27:53.257 Your husband coming home to check up on you. 27:53.257 --> 27:55.497 Does that make you feel angry? 27:56.977 --> 27:59.297 So angry that you would take it out on Betsey? 27:59.297 --> 28:00.297 They think I am a bad mother. 28:00.297 --> 28:02.497 And Betsey is upstairs screaming! 28:02.897 --> 28:05.977 You are a bad mother. You are an evil mother. 28:06.257 --> 28:09.617 No! - Did you know that your husband was so concerned 28:09.937 --> 28:12.097 that he confided in a female friend 28:12.097 --> 28:14.777 minutes after leaving you on Friday lunchtime? 28:14.777 --> 28:15.777 What are you talking about? 28:15.777 --> 28:19.857 Immediately after leaving you on Friday, he and thisfriend, 28:19.857 --> 28:23.577 they shared a few bottles of wine in an intimate wine bar. 28:23.577 --> 28:25.337 In fact, they spent the rest of the afternoon together, 28:25.337 --> 28:26.297 into the evening. 28:26.297 --> 28:27.257 I don't know what you are saying. 28:27.257 --> 28:30.297 With who? - Mrs Charlotte Hinman. 28:31.417 --> 28:33.137 Did you find out about your husband's betrayal, 28:33.137 --> 28:35.977 and did it make you angry Jess? - No. 28:36.097 --> 28:37.297 So angry the next time you were with Betsey, 28:37.297 --> 28:38.217 you are changing her nappy, 28:38.217 --> 28:40.377 maybe you are a bit brusque with her, rough with her? 28:40.377 --> 28:42.657 No. - Maybe she just wouldn't be quiet. Right? 28:42.657 --> 28:44.937 You are distressed because Ed is coming home to check up on you, 28:44.937 --> 28:47.217 and you have just found out that he is confiding 28:47.217 --> 28:48.617 in Charlotte Hinman. - No! 28:48.617 --> 28:49.577 You are frustrated. You are exhausted. 28:49.577 --> 28:51.457 These are a lot of emotions, Jess. - No. 28:51.457 --> 28:53.937 Right! And Betsey will not be quiet. - No. 28:53.937 --> 28:55.457 Did you want to grip her a bit harder? 28:55.457 --> 28:57.297 Did you want to shake some sense into her? 28:57.297 --> 28:58.617 No! - You knew that you shouldn't 28:58.617 --> 28:59.817 do it, but it's all getting a bit much. 28:59.817 --> 29:01.817 You are a bad mother. - Maybe it was accidental. 29:01.817 --> 29:03.737 You are changing her nappy, it's all getting a bit much, 29:03.737 --> 29:05.497 and maybe you accidentally grip her hard. 29:05.497 --> 29:06.737 Did you want to shake her? 29:06.737 --> 29:08.337 Shake some sense into her? - You are an evil mother. 29:08.337 --> 29:10.497 No! - Just bang her head, Jess. 29:10.497 --> 29:12.297 [muted screaming] 29:12.417 --> 29:13.257 No! 29:13.537 --> 29:15.217 Sorry, I think my client needs a moment. 29:15.217 --> 29:16.577 Perhaps we could 29:17.217 --> 29:18.977 take a short break, please. 29:22.657 --> 29:23.457 Okay. 29:24.137 --> 29:25.177 [buzzing sound] 29:42.217 --> 29:43.817 When our babies were tiny, 29:43.817 --> 29:46.417 Jess became convinced that they had slept together at uni. 29:46.937 --> 29:48.657 It became an obsession. 29:49.937 --> 29:51.657 She worried that Ed would find Charlotte 29:51.657 --> 29:53.617 more attractive and leave. 29:55.617 --> 29:57.257 We could all see that Ed adored Jess 29:57.257 --> 30:00.817 and Charlotte could only have ever been a fling, at best. 30:02.577 --> 30:04.937 Still... nothing you could ever tell me 30:04.937 --> 30:06.537 about those two would surprise me. 30:10.057 --> 30:12.177 Sorry. - Everything all right, sir? 30:30.137 --> 30:33.097 Can't believe Jess, of all people, has been arrested. 30:33.777 --> 30:34.817 I know. 30:36.417 --> 30:37.777 Ed's devastated. 30:38.497 --> 30:40.457 Andrew said the police have been relentless, 30:40.457 --> 30:41.577 and it's hard to imagine a jury 30:41.577 --> 30:43.097 feeling any sympathy for a mother 30:43.097 --> 30:45.697 whose accused of harming her baby. 30:47.177 --> 30:48.497 But, Mel, we also need to talk about 30:48.497 --> 30:50.177 what just happened at school. 30:51.417 --> 30:53.977 I don't understand. Why is he being so vile to you? 30:55.217 --> 30:57.337 He is lovely 80% of the time. 30:57.777 --> 30:59.377 He just... 30:59.657 --> 31:01.257 He just doesn't like it when I do something 31:01.257 --> 31:02.777 he doesn't want me to do. Like 31:03.337 --> 31:05.217 helping out the Carrisfords. 31:10.537 --> 31:14.297 He is really... secretive about money. 31:15.457 --> 31:18.257 I never see any bills. The house is in his name. 31:18.257 --> 31:19.977 I have no idea how much money we have got 31:19.977 --> 31:22.537 or haven't got. - What? 31:23.337 --> 31:25.577 And now he is withdrawn the amount he gives me each month. 31:25.577 --> 31:26.937 Wait, he gives you an allowance? 31:26.937 --> 31:28.937 I don't think of it like that, but... 31:30.137 --> 31:32.137 Look, since he was made redundant-- 31:32.137 --> 31:33.777 Hold on. He was made redundant? 31:34.377 --> 31:36.137 I thought he was striking out on his own. 31:36.137 --> 31:37.857 Yeah, well, that's what he wants you to think. 31:38.257 --> 31:39.817 But Ed never invested. 31:41.817 --> 31:43.057 I don't know, Charlotte. 31:43.417 --> 31:45.137 Every relationship has its ups and downs. 31:45.137 --> 31:47.017 Well, yes, I know it does. 31:48.257 --> 31:50.097 But, Mel, this is extreme. 31:52.577 --> 31:54.097 I am not like you. 31:55.337 --> 32:00.297 With your career, your confidence, your determination. 32:00.737 --> 32:03.217 I haven't worked in over a decade. 32:03.617 --> 32:05.697 I have no income, no savings. 32:07.897 --> 32:11.137 He said if I ever try and leave him, he will take the kids. 32:11.897 --> 32:14.857 I knew he was a bit of a dick, but... 32:17.217 --> 32:18.377 I don't know how you put up with it. 32:18.377 --> 32:19.977 I mean, you can't be happy. 32:20.897 --> 32:22.577 Are you happy all the time? 32:24.337 --> 32:25.257 Well, no. 32:25.817 --> 32:28.617 I mean, of course, everybody knows marriage is hard, and... 32:29.217 --> 32:31.257 At least you have got a good one in Andrew. 32:38.137 --> 32:39.777 [buzzing noise] 32:45.097 --> 32:48.977 So we had like to talk about the timeline Friday early evening, 32:48.977 --> 32:51.857 specifically the time between 6 and 6:30. 32:52.177 --> 32:54.097 You told us that once you had returned home 32:54.097 --> 32:56.497 from the school run, you didn't leave the house again. 32:56.777 --> 32:59.697 Kit was picked up for football at 4:45, 32:59.977 --> 33:01.337 but you didn't leave. 33:01.737 --> 33:03.537 Is that still your recollection? 33:03.977 --> 33:05.697 No comment, please, Jess. 33:07.657 --> 33:08.577 Yes. 33:09.537 --> 33:11.497 Now, as discussed, everyone that we have spoken to 33:11.497 --> 33:15.217 has described you as a very attentive mother. 33:15.217 --> 33:17.497 Would you agree with that assessment? 33:18.817 --> 33:20.617 Sorry, for the tape. 33:21.937 --> 33:22.897 Yes. 33:23.297 --> 33:25.257 You are not the sort of mother who would leave 33:25.257 --> 33:27.537 her young children alone in the house? 33:31.977 --> 33:34.137 I am not that sort of mother, no. 33:35.057 --> 33:37.697 And just to clarify, your stance on medicating your children 33:37.697 --> 33:41.137 is so firm that you would only do so 33:42.137 --> 33:44.097 if strictly necessary. 33:47.177 --> 33:48.217 You wouldn't even keep 33:48.217 --> 33:50.057 children's paracetamol in the house? 33:54.097 --> 33:57.457 [Betsey crying] 34:04.177 --> 34:05.577 Frankie! 34:06.257 --> 34:07.857 [Betsey screaming] 34:07.857 --> 34:09.497 God damn it! 34:19.577 --> 34:23.857 [Indistinct chatter] 34:25.097 --> 34:26.337 [Indistinct chatter] 34:29.577 --> 34:31.217 [Indistinct chatter] 34:32.097 --> 34:33.977 [Jess screams] 34:33.977 --> 34:35.897 [screaming] - Frankie! 34:37.457 --> 34:38.857 I am just trying to help. 34:38.857 --> 34:41.617 Please don't scream, mummy. - I am just trying to help. 34:41.617 --> 34:47.657 FRANKIE: Please don't scream. Don't scream, don't scream. 34:47.657 --> 34:49.857 [Jess screaming] Stop crying! 34:53.537 --> 34:55.417 I am a bad mother. 34:57.417 --> 35:00.377 A bad, bad mother. 35:28.377 --> 35:29.897 There you go. 35:31.137 --> 35:32.017 Thank you. 35:32.017 --> 35:34.297 Bye-bye. - See you. - Bye. 35:34.617 --> 35:36.457 Hi. What can I get you? - Hi. 35:36.457 --> 35:38.377 Children's paracetamol please. 35:38.377 --> 35:40.337 Is it for baby or the older ones? 35:40.337 --> 35:42.257 The baby. - Is she teething? 35:42.257 --> 35:45.177 Peekaboo. Peekaboo! 35:45.177 --> 35:46.577 Peekaboo! 35:46.577 --> 35:47.697 [Betsey screaming] 35:47.697 --> 35:49.137 Please don't scream! 35:49.977 --> 35:51.257 There you go. 35:57.257 --> 35:59.177 This footage shows you in Superb Deli Stores 35:59.177 --> 36:01.657 at 6:23 on the day you brought Betsey to hospital. 36:01.657 --> 36:04.137 You are purchasing children's paracetamol 36:04.137 --> 36:06.577 an hour after you said your daughter sustained a head injury. 36:06.577 --> 36:10.057 I must object to this being sprung on my client without warning. 36:10.057 --> 36:11.977 This is you in the footage yes? 36:13.297 --> 36:14.897 DC FARRON: For the tape, please. 36:15.817 --> 36:16.697 Yes. 36:17.657 --> 36:19.217 You look distressed in this recording. 36:19.217 --> 36:20.777 That can't be deduced from this image. 36:20.777 --> 36:23.297 We also spoke to Jill Baker, who dropped Kit off at 6:45. 36:23.297 --> 36:26.257 She confirmed that you seemed distressed, distracted. 36:26.777 --> 36:29.897 Like you had been crying. Had you been crying, Jess? 36:34.097 --> 36:35.297 Possibly. 36:37.217 --> 36:38.697 Possibly? 36:39.177 --> 36:41.697 Mm... probably. 36:43.177 --> 36:45.737 Something happened to cause this distress. 36:46.937 --> 36:47.977 What happened, Jess? 36:48.097 --> 36:50.657 What happened that was so distressing that you would leave 36:50.657 --> 36:54.857 your ten-month-old baby and your young son to go and buy medicine 36:54.857 --> 36:58.857 that you would only use if strictly necessary? 36:58.857 --> 37:00.577 Medicine that was necessary, 37:01.217 --> 37:03.737 because you knew that Betsey was hurt. 37:04.257 --> 37:06.137 Why would you leave them, Jess? 37:07.257 --> 37:10.457 Did you leave them after you did something that you didn't intend? 37:11.897 --> 37:14.417 After getting frustrated and losing your temper? 37:15.217 --> 37:16.457 Jess? 37:17.497 --> 37:19.177 You leave them because you hurt Betsey? 37:22.417 --> 37:24.297 How did you fracture her skull, Jess? 37:26.657 --> 37:28.057 I didn't. 37:28.777 --> 37:30.377 I didn't do it. 37:35.537 --> 37:36.977 [buzzing sound] 37:41.977 --> 37:43.457 Hello, sweetheart. 37:43.457 --> 37:44.857 [Indistinct chatter] 37:45.577 --> 37:47.377 I missed you, too. 37:47.377 --> 37:48.897 Oh! Hello! 37:49.297 --> 37:51.177 You better keep your distance, young man. 37:51.177 --> 37:53.177 I am not pleased with you at all, at all. 37:53.737 --> 37:55.657 Are you coming home? - Don't change the subject. 37:56.137 --> 37:58.097 You are never home. - Hey, listen, I actually 37:58.097 --> 38:00.337 came home to talk to you last night about Frankie, but- 38:00.337 --> 38:02.977 Hey, listen. Listen, you and I, we are gonna have 38:03.097 --> 38:05.257 a proper conversation about all this. 38:05.977 --> 38:09.537 You can't treat people like that without serious consequences. 38:12.977 --> 38:14.257 Hiya. - Where's mummy? 38:14.257 --> 38:17.257 She is busy with Betsey. But have you seen Kit's cool cast? 38:18.177 --> 38:19.137 You okay? - Yeah. Good. 38:19.137 --> 38:21.857 I can take the kids to Jess' for pizza. 38:21.857 --> 38:24.137 Well, considering our son was the one being attacked yesterday, 38:24.137 --> 38:25.537 I think we should probably head off, don't you? 38:25.537 --> 38:27.457 Come on, you two. Come on. - No, please, dad. 38:27.457 --> 38:30.537 It's a play date. They are fine. - Look, they have got homework. 38:30.537 --> 38:32.097 Since when did you give a shit about homework? 38:32.097 --> 38:33.457 Well, one of us has got to be responsible. 38:33.457 --> 38:34.977 Mollie, Connor, in the car now. 38:35.097 --> 38:37.537 Oh, just remember what I said earlier, okay? 38:37.817 --> 38:38.817 Tonight. 38:44.177 --> 38:46.937 Come on, troops. Let's go home. 38:51.577 --> 38:53.577 LIZ: Hi. - Oh, hey. 38:55.737 --> 38:56.817 How was work? 38:56.817 --> 38:58.937 Yeah. No drama. 38:59.417 --> 39:02.697 Apart from someone totally trashed the boys' toilets. 39:02.697 --> 39:04.617 Ew! - Yeah! 39:05.457 --> 39:06.617 How was your day? 39:07.377 --> 39:08.177 Yeah, it was good. 39:08.177 --> 39:10.777 I spent the afternoon googling symptoms actually, 39:10.777 --> 39:12.257 went down a bit of a wormhole. 39:12.257 --> 39:15.137 It still terrifies me that doctors use Google. 39:15.137 --> 39:16.297 I just... 39:16.537 --> 39:17.977 You know we all do it, right? 39:19.417 --> 39:20.257 Go on then. 39:20.537 --> 39:25.537 Okay, so I think Jess is suffering from a mental health disorder. 39:25.537 --> 39:30.097 A postnatal anxiety. I found this thing called perinatal OCD. 39:30.097 --> 39:32.057 It's a form of obsessive compulsive disorder, 39:32.057 --> 39:34.737 but it's triggered by the birth of a child. 39:34.977 --> 39:36.257 In this case, Betsey. 39:37.497 --> 39:39.537 I just think it would explain her behaviour 39:39.537 --> 39:41.337 over the last few days and 39:41.737 --> 39:43.937 why she is not quite the Jess we know. 39:44.777 --> 39:45.897 What do you think I should do? 39:46.777 --> 39:49.457 Well, I mean, you have to tell Ed. 39:50.217 --> 39:52.337 Not exactly his favourite person right now. 39:52.577 --> 39:54.257 Well, I mean 39:54.977 --> 39:57.217 I could come with you. A bit of solidarity. 39:57.657 --> 40:00.457 Thanks, but I just, I don't think so. 40:00.457 --> 40:01.417 Hey, hey. 40:01.777 --> 40:05.257 If you think that this can help Jess, then you have to try. 40:05.977 --> 40:07.777 Even if Ed isn't your biggest fan. 40:08.337 --> 40:10.057 Jess is what matters most. 40:10.977 --> 40:11.897 Mm. 40:17.817 --> 40:21.417 And I have been thinking about what you said this morning. 40:21.697 --> 40:22.657 Yeah? 40:23.057 --> 40:24.657 Yeah, about the drinking. 40:26.097 --> 40:27.017 And you are right. 40:27.817 --> 40:30.097 And I do need to sort it out and I will. 40:37.897 --> 40:40.017 That's really good, Frank. CHARLOTTE: Okay. 40:40.617 --> 40:42.657 Pizzas are in. - Thank you, Auntie Charlotte. 40:42.657 --> 40:45.817 Thanks, Auntie Charlotte. - [doorbell ringing] 40:45.817 --> 40:47.897 The answer is 89. - Sweet. 40:48.217 --> 40:50.377 Well done. We will do the last one after dinner. 40:50.377 --> 40:52.057 I already know the last one, dad. 40:52.057 --> 40:53.857 Go on. - It's D. 40:56.657 --> 40:58.097 LIZ: Hi. - Hi. 40:59.217 --> 41:02.617 Hi, guys. I just wanted to see how you are getting on. 41:03.377 --> 41:04.537 How's Jess? 41:05.457 --> 41:07.337 Andrew said he had call if he had any news. 41:07.697 --> 41:09.777 Well then... - We should hear in the next few hours. 41:12.217 --> 41:13.817 I have, um... I have been doing some reading, 41:13.817 --> 41:16.297 and I think that Jess is suffering from a thing 41:16.297 --> 41:18.657 called perinatal OCD. 41:20.017 --> 41:21.097 All right, go on. 41:21.097 --> 41:24.297 It manifests itself in, like, compulsive behaviour, 41:24.297 --> 41:27.097 like obsessing over whether your children are safe, 41:27.937 --> 41:30.297 or compulsive cleaning, to manage your thoughts. 41:30.617 --> 41:31.617 For how long? 41:33.177 --> 41:34.977 Probably since Betsey was born. 41:34.977 --> 41:37.857 She might have been trying to keep control ever since then. 41:40.657 --> 41:44.377 But does this make her more or less guilty? 41:46.937 --> 41:50.097 I don't know, Ed. She is not my patient. 41:51.817 --> 41:53.617 Yeah, right. 42:14.537 --> 42:18.857 Do you think that she could have actually hurt Betsey? 42:28.697 --> 42:30.817 I had like to remind you that my client has been in custody 42:30.817 --> 42:31.897 for 20 hours at this point. 42:31.897 --> 42:33.217 She has a family and a sick child. 42:33.217 --> 42:35.537 She is been extremely cooperative. DC Farron and I are in agreement. 42:35.537 --> 42:38.457 We will be referring the case to the Crown Prosecution Service. 42:38.457 --> 42:41.577 Then I insist Jess is released on pre-charge bail immediately. 42:42.497 --> 42:45.337 FRANKIE:Don't scream! Don't scream! Don't scream! 42:45.337 --> 42:47.457 JESS:Stop crying! 42:49.857 --> 42:51.617 [Betsey crying] 42:52.217 --> 42:53.817 Mrs Carrisford? 42:54.537 --> 42:56.137 Mrs Carrisford, did you hear me? 42:56.497 --> 42:58.857 While we continue investigating Betsey's skull fracture, 42:58.857 --> 43:01.297 we feel we have sufficient evidence to convince the CPS 43:01.297 --> 43:03.137 to charge you with child abduction 43:03.137 --> 43:05.097 and child endangerment. 43:11.217 --> 43:13.297 [Betsey screaming] 43:17.737 --> 43:18.937 Mum! 43:21.617 --> 43:22.817 Mummy? 43:26.177 --> 43:27.937 DC FARRON:In the morning, you will be taken in a police van 43:27.937 --> 43:30.057 to the magistrate's court for your first appearance, 43:30.057 --> 43:32.497 where the court will decide if you should get bail. 43:45.977 --> 43:47.737 JESS:I am a bad mother. 43:48.897 --> 43:51.817 A bad, bad mother. 43:52.337 --> 43:54.217 FRANKIE:Mum's a bit upset. 43:54.217 --> 43:57.337 Mummy's a bit upset. - [Betsey continues crying] 43:57.697 --> 44:00.497 Oh, Betsey! Did you do a smelly poo? 44:01.417 --> 44:03.817 Oh, it's okay. Mummy will be back in a minute. 44:03.817 --> 44:05.777 [doorbell ringing]