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I had during my time as corps
commander flown over the place.

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My daughter had also recently
spoken about Baisaran.

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It's a beautiful meadow

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and it's very popular with tourists.

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(SOMBER MUSIC)

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I was the Director General of
Military Operations

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during Operation Sindoor.

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The DGMO is the fulcrum

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of all operational activity
in the Indian Army.

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A key person within
Army Headquarters

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to keep a 24/7-365 watch

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on all operational activity
happening on any border

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or even within the country.

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And he is then in a position
to actually crystal gaze

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and look ahead as to
how operations will unfold.

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It was a routine day.

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The first call that I got was from
the corps commander in Kashmir.

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He told me that there was
something happening in Baisaran.

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Because you've been through
incidents like that,

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I knew the ring was different.

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I knew that I had to walk up to the
Chief of Army Staff and inform him.

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I have been in uniform
for 40 years plus.

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So the decision making is concerned,
it's part of my blood.

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On that fateful day of 22nd April,

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I was presiding over the
Retiring Officer's Seminar.

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I remember taking that short walk

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from the Military
Operations Directorate

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to where the Veteran Officer's
Seminar was being held.

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So when I was giving
the talk, I suddenly realized

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General Ghai, my DGMO,
entered the room.

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He had a very serious face
and he walked up to the podium,

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put the hand on the
mic and whispered,

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Sir, there has been
a terrorist attack.

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I received a call from the helpline.

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This lady was speaking
on the other side.

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She said, I am Himanshi.

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And there was a lot
of panic and anger

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mixed kind of tone
that she was showing.

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She said that my
husband has been shot.

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Himanshi is the wife of late
Lieutenant Vinay Narwal of Navy

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who was there in Baisaran that day.

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(SCREAMS)

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(GUNSHOTS)

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We had asked the unit which was
nearby to go to the incident site

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with the quick reaction
teams that we have.

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(SIREN WAILING)

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So first one to react was
my company commander.

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I told him, just
rush to the location.

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Next five minutes, I was also out.

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I was in communication with the
CO who was moving in.

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It was still 30 to 35 minutes away.

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That was a little
frustrating moment.

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From Pahalgam reaching Baisaran,
there is no metal road.

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So you just have to walk.

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It's a walk of somewhere
around 30 to 40 minutes.

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And whatever the
chatter we were picking,

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when we were climbing up
by the porters and local guides,

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they were saying it was
a cold-blooded murder.

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The ground situation was basically
there were dead bodies all around.

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It wasn't a normal terror attack.

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In my opinion, it was a kind of an
execution which was taking place

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where victims were segregated,

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they were taken apart,

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sorted on the base of their religion

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and mercilessly in
cold blood executed

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right in front of their families.

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The first images and
videos started trickling

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from the first responders
who had reached there.

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In my life, I have never seen the
kind of barbarity that was so gory.

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These civilians had
been killed in cold blood

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with automatic weapons
such as AK-47s.

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Earlier attacks were
indiscriminate.

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They killed anybody
who came in front of them.

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Here they segregated
Hindus and Muslims,

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and killed Hindu men.

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I don't express it.

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I'm an emotional man at some level.

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I really felt very bad.

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I felt very sad that this young
couple must have thought,

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must have planned,
packed their things,

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will go to Pahalgam, come back,

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and the wife is sitting,
and they are telling,

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KI JAKE MODI KO BOL DO,
(Go tell Modi...)

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JO KAR KAR SAKTA HAI KAR LE.
(Do whatever you can)

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So like I think all
citizens of the country,

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we were actually hit
by the brutality of this attack.

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I think it was most barbaric.

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We will go after them.

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Whether on the ground, in the sky,

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or deep underground,
wherever they are.

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We will not forgive.

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Any act of terror will be
considered as an act of war.

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If there is even escalation to
this particular conflict, so be it.

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And then we went into
full-fledged war mode I would say.

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Prime Minister told me that we
should call it Operation Sindoor.

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We were ready and our
fingers were on the trigger.

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And nothing stopped us
and we were no holds barred.

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All the officers
and men were fully motivated.

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(GUNSHOTS)

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The entire nation's
hope rested on us.

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We will unfold it like a good movie.

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So, the Prime Minister said,

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waha se goli...
(if they'll fire bullets...)

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yaha se gola.
(...we will drop bombs)

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Fortnight before
the Pahalgam attack,

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Asim Munir was actually provoking
kind of terrorist organizations

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into attacking India or carrying
out some terrorist attack.

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During his speech to non-resident
Pakistanis and investors,

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he said that we are
two different people;

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we are not one people.

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We have a different culture,
we have a different tradition

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and India and Pakistan
have nothing in common

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and we come
from two different religions,

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and a very provocative
speech basically,

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which was like a dog whistle

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to the terrorist groups
and the elements in ISI.

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This was a very well planned, well
thought out and deliberate attack

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designed for two or three
intentions or outcomes from that.

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And they were one, create
communal divide in India.

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Two, hit the booming tourism
economy in Jammu and Kashmir.

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And three, by doing that

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try and get more local recruits
from Jammu and Kashmir.

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Prime Minister Narendra Modi was
in Saudi Arabia on a visit.

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He had left that morning.

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And the attack actually
simultaneously happened

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as he was about to land in Riyadh.

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The moment the
Prime Minister landed,

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somebody from the SPG

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went up to him and whispered
into his ear something.

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So the Prime Minister
vanished from public view.

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When I went to the Prime Minister,

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actually he had
already known about it,

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and I found him quite serious.

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Normally he has got a lot of calm,

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and under difficult circumstances,
I have never seen him ruffled up.

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But he said

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YE BURA HUA HAI...
(What has happened is terrible)

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ISKA PRATIKAR KARNA PADEGA.
(this cannot go unanswered).

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We will have to take suitable
and proportionate actions.

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So he had his meeting with the
Saudi Prince Muhammad bin Salman.

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And immediately the Prime Minister
and his delegation

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headed back to Delhi.

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Prime Minister returned.

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Foreign Secretary had
come to receive him.

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Then at the airport
itself we had a meeting.

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First he wanted to
know all the facts.

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And then his first
question to me is,

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who has done it?

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Who is responsible?

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We should be very clear who the
perpetrators are.

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I wanted immediately,

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thanks to our intelligence agencies,

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I think they did a brilliant job,

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and within a very short time,

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we were able to
arrive at the conclusion,

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mainly because of the equipment
that they had left at the site,

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which was the
communication equipment,

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which carried the route
that they had tracked,

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also carried their communications
with their mentors in Pakistan,

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and also their communications
amongst themselves.

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So it was very clear that they
were Pakistanis.

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So, I thought that we must
go for proactive deterrence.

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And I could make out that
the Prime Minister's mind

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was also that we have got to
go for a proactive deterrence.

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90% of the fog was over with that.

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After that, it's a question
of what is that we can do.

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On this matter, when you decide,

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you first decide that what are
the enemy's expectations from you.

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So, my way of thinking
has always been,

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never do what the
enemy expects you to do.

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That is the element of surprise.

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If you have to win,
you have to take risks in life.

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Without taking a risk,
you will never win.

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NSA called me very
early in the morning.

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He had just returned
from Saudi Arabia

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and he said that you know
we need to plan things.

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And by that time,
honourable Raksha Mantri

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had also called for a meeting.

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So clearly the ball
had been set rolling.

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The most important meeting was held
by the honourable Prime Minister

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in which Raksha Mantri, NSA,

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the three service chiefs
and myself were present.

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We met the PM when
he called for a meeting

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and he decided that
this time, whatever we do,

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it has to be big and impactful and
it must teach them their lessons.

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You know for any military man,

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when the time comes
and you know that

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this is the time to prove our worth,

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you suddenly start
getting that adrenaline rush

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and you start feeling, you know,

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maybe this was the time
you wore your uniform for.

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Immediately, that evening

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after the Cabinet Committee
on Security meeting,

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it was decided by India to scrap

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the long-standing Indus
Water Treaty of 1960.

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Terror and talks,

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cannot go together.

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Terror and trade

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cannot go hand in hand,

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and water and blood

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cannot flow together.

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And withdrawing
the Indus water treaty,

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which had survived three wars

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and had never been discussed
or considered as an option

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despite the fact that it
was a one-sided treaty

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completely in favour of Pakistan.

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I say to the whole world.

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India will identify, trace

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and punish every
terrorist and their backer.

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We will pursue them

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to the ends of the earth.

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India s spirit will never
be broken by terrorism.

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Terrorism will not go unpunished.

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Every effort will be made to
ensure that justice is done.

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The entire nation is
firm in this resolve.

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Everyone who believes
in humanity is with us.

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I thank the people
of various countries

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and their leaders who have
stood with us in these times.

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Honourable Prime Minister
has made it very clear,

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any act of terror will be
considered as an act of war.

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I flew down to the
Western Naval Command Headquarters.

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The Eastern Naval Command
units which were combat ready,

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they were just pushed
out from Vishakhapatnam.

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(DRAMATIC MUSIC)

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Then they joined on
the Western seaboard

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and they became
a part of this force.

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Within the 96 hours of
that terrorist attack,

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we had carried out a large
number of weapon firings.

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I called for a conference of

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Vice-Chief, DGMO, DGMI
and ADG STRATCOM.

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What next? And what range?

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These are the two things
we wanted to discuss.

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I had no doubt that
we were in a situation

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where we would have to respond
differently from times gone by

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and we would need to make sure that
we responded in a manner

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which very unambiguously
gave out our intent

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that we were not going to tolerate
this or any form of terrorism.

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Around 26th, we generally honed down

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to various terrorist targets
which we can neutralise.

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What the Prime Minister wanted was,

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it should not lead to any collateral
damages to the civilian casualties.

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Number two, we are not
declaring a war against Pakistan.

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Number three, we have got
terrorists as the main culprits.

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Especially in the initial few
days selection of targets etc.

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the accuracy of information

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was provided by the
intelligence agencies.

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Largely done through the Office
of National Security Advisor.

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So objectives that were
decided were terrorist camps,

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nothing more, nothing less.

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They came up with a
rough list of about 34 targets.

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The numbers were many
but the important thing

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to decide was that how
many would be enough

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to send a stern message across.

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And I was an integral part of
that engine room.

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Which was planning this operation.

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We were doing a
daily 24-hour research

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and evolving the intelligence that
we had available on these targets.

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They evolved a matrix,

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tabulated the whole target
list into ease of targeting,

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line of sight, whether it is there,

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how many people are there,

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important people or important
terrorist functionaries are there.

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And they had a scale from 0
to 5 for different parameters.

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After evaluating their
success possibility,

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after evaluating
the deterrence effect

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that the Prime Minister wanted,

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after ensuring that it will not
lead to any collateral damage,

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after ensuring that the message
is loud and clear to the terrorists,

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as also their mentors
and supporters.

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Thereafter, we homed
on to the 9 targets.

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There were 5 targets in POJK

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and 4 targets in Pakistan.

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The NSA went with the targets and
the intention to the Prime Minister

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saying there are these risks
of retaliation from Pakistan

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because you are hitting
the Pakistan-Punjab province

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which was always seen or projected
by Pakistan as a no-go area.

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A red line, if crossed,

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would invite nuclear retaliation
or something catastrophic.

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Now it's for you to sign off

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whether we should do
this or do something else.

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And the Prime Minister apparently
said give me 10 to 12 hours.

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And so on 30th, the Prime Minister
signed off on this plan.

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I was again called in the
evening by the Prime Minister.

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He asked me "what is the name which
has been given to the operation."

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I replied that it
is Tulip Garden as of now

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because it has happened in valley.

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He told me that we should
call it Operation Sindhu.

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I said, sir, that's a very good name

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because the Indus Water
Treaty has been frozen.

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So it relates to that.

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He said, no, it is
Operation Sindoor.

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KYUNKI UNHONE HUMARI MAHILON...
(because they have widowed...)

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KI MAANG KA SINDOOR UJADA HAI...
(...our women,)

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AUR HUME USKA BADLA LENA HAI.
(...and we have to avenge it.)

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Spontaneously came to my mind,

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this will unite the
complete of India

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and this is the first time
all the three services

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will be having a common
operational name.

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We identified 9 targets finally.

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Starting from the north,
across the line of control,

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Syedna Bilal,

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Sawai Nala,

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Kotli,

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Gulpur,

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Bhimber,

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Mehmoona Joya,

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Sarjal,

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and of course, Bahawalpur

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and Muridke.

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These were all located
at varying distances

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from the line of control or
the international boundary.

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This was different.

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You were taking
the fight to the enemy.

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Each building had
to be studied in detail.

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The composition of the building,

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the construction of the building

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was to be matched with the
weaponry which we are going to use.

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Then, depending on the distance
at which they were located

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and the weapon platform that was
being utilized to eliminate those,

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it was decided that
seven of the targets

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would be engaged by the Indian Army

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and the remaining two at
Bahawalpur and Muridke

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would be engaged
by the Indian Air Force.

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Air power is something we look
at, you know,

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we will be likely
the first responders.

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And we were very
sure about two things

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that the damage we would
like to cause should be enough

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to, you know, leave no ambiguity.

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The two targets we
were given was Muridke

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which is about 30 kilometers
from the border closer to Lahore.

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One was Bahawalpur

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which is almost about 100
kilometers from the border.

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Both targets were
symbolically very important

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because this is the
fountainhead of terrorism.

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Muridke was the
headquarter of the LeT.

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and Bahawalpur of Jaish-e-Mohammed.

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So, it is like going into
their house and hitting them.

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And it is located within the city.

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So, the challenge was
firstly, to strike deep

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and also to ensure that
there is no collateral damage.

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There are a lot of people,
a lot of families

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who were staying around them

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because that's how
the terrorists thrive.

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I think they choose
their places accordingly

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so that they get this kind
of first line of defense.

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And since the targets were big,

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that is why we decided together that
Air Force will take on this target

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because we had to have
the requisite weight of attack

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which Air Force could
deliver at that distance

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into the enemy
territory with precision.

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And then we set about putting
our minds together to make the plan.

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Some of us are born to be in
crisis always.

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I have dealt with multiple
crises in these scenarios

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being posted in Northern Command
so many times.

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Northern Command motto
is that it's forever in combat

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and you are always waiting for
that adrenaline to be there flowing

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all the time.

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When this entire planning
process was happening,

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indication to me was
there from the Chief

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that whenever it happens you
will be taking over Northern Army.

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When this intense planning phase
was on in the Army Headquarters

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and in the corridors of Delhi,

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I was fully integrated into that.

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And I knew that I have to go.

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I was waiting for MS Branch to
quickly issue this posting order

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in black and white so that I can
just grab that order and fly off.

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And I remember that particular
day Chief had called everybody

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in the MO Ops room

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and I as Deputy Chief strat
everything was happening in my mind.

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I was waiting for
that thing to happen

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and suddenly somebody
came from behind

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"Sir, your posting order in
black and white is already out."

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I just got up from the chair and
whatever conversation was happening

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I could not even register
what was happening.

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I got up and I requested Chief Sir

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can I be excused I want to
take a flight within an hour,

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and he said go.

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(SIRENS WAILING)

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When I reached Udhampur,

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I had to take care of
what is the targeting matrix

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that if I have these seven
camps to be targeted,

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how exactly will I do it,

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what are the vectors I will use

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and also which are the
areas within those targets

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which should come what may
the precision strike must go there.

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I was to take over from
first of May as the Vice Chief.

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So when I came in here

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of course some of the
planning had already started

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in terms of putting the forces
up in the requisite places,

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upping our air defence alert levels.

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And I was to move out as AOC-in-C
South Western Air Command.

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I mean I hit the ground
running I would say,

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and I was good to go
from the day I landed there.

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So all that was
required to be done was

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give a call to every station,

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and tell them to now
keep the powder dry.

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So the preparatory phase
if I have to talk about,

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one was not sure how
many days will I get

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because targeting had to happen,

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one was not sure it was going to
be within two days, within a day,

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within three days,
one was not very sure.

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So in this preparatory
phase each, and every minute

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which was there with me I
was utilizing it very judiciously.

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I wanted to ensure that the
plans on the LoC are in place

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for all that entire steps of
escalation I have my people in place

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I have my weapon,
ammunition all stocked up,

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I had to cater for surprise.

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People should not come
to know that in what domain

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India is going to respond.

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There were rehearsals happening,

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people were rehearsing
on their platforms

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or the vector

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or any particular ammunition
that was going to be utilized.

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They were in the training areas,

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they were on the
field firing ranges.

00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.960 align:center
They knew that they
would at some point in time

00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:26.200 align:center
be asked to get into action,

00:27:29.520 --> 00:27:31.520 align:center
but they necessarily did not know

00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:33.480 align:center
as to where exactly
they would be firing.

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I had selected each
and every commander

00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:43.160 align:center
for targeting of these camps.

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I got them together we discussed
that these are the targets,

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this is the planning.

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These are the vectors to
be used within the target

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which building, which area has to be
struck, all that planning was done.

00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:07.720 align:center
And from 1st of May onwards
these rehearsals intensified.

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Routine activities at
unit level were underway

00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:19.160 align:center
when I received the
call from my commanding officer.

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He was already in
the operational area.

00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:25.240 align:center
He asked me to move
to command headquarters

00:28:26.600 --> 00:28:29.120 align:center
and got an initial brief
of an impending task:

00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:34.800 align:center
battalion battle
procedures were activated

00:28:36.760 --> 00:28:39.160 align:center
and all special strike teams

00:28:39.280 --> 00:28:41.880 align:center
they went on to carrying
out their rehearsals.

00:28:51.120 --> 00:28:54.360 align:center
In these kind of operations,
terrain plays a major role.

00:28:55.760 --> 00:28:59.320 align:center
So you need to study the
terrain in that short time

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and as the terrain we see
here is mountainous.

00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:09.080 align:center
So for the planning phase we did
a lot of recce on and off the map.

00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:14.440 align:center
Commanding officer of my regiment

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he has called all
the officers in his office,

00:29:16.520 --> 00:29:18.639 align:center
and told that he has
received the orders

00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.920 align:center
and one of our subunit has to air
mobilise to an unspecified location.

00:29:30.080 --> 00:29:33.560 align:center
The moment we reached airfield
it is near about 2400 hours.

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Next day in the morning
we landed at the valley.

00:29:51.600 --> 00:29:54.000 align:center
We mobilised and
reached our location

00:29:54.120 --> 00:29:56.160 align:center
from where we have finally
carried out our mission.

00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:01.560 align:center
For the next 4-5 days we have
rehearsed improved our drills,

00:30:04.120 --> 00:30:06.920 align:center
and increasing our
force protection measures.

00:30:09.320 --> 00:30:12.520 align:center
All the directions were given
for them to prepare.

00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:13.480 align:center
Be ready.

00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:21.480 align:center
There are very few
people in the Air Force

00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:23.960 align:center
who were aware
of specific information.

00:30:26.120 --> 00:30:28.920 align:center
The units which had to do
the planning were informed.

00:30:30.600 --> 00:30:32.800 align:center
So for that you need
immense amount of planning

00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:35.360 align:center
because carrying out a
strike into another nation

00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:36.920 align:center
is not a very easy job.

00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.120 align:center
So I personally started
planning missions.

00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.880 align:center
I knew that whatever platform
or whatever happens eventually

00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:48.040 align:center
we will always
have to plan a strike.

00:30:51.120 --> 00:30:53.160 align:center
We have simulated targets

00:30:53.280 --> 00:30:55.200 align:center
and we practice these
missions regularly

00:30:55.320 --> 00:30:56.880 align:center
in our routine training sorties.

00:30:58.520 --> 00:31:01.879 align:center
So as a military aviator I think
we had already started preparing

00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:02.960 align:center
from our side.

00:31:03.840 --> 00:31:07.160 align:center
Because we knew that
it might be a possibility

00:31:07.280 --> 00:31:09.440 align:center
that some operation
might have to be conducted.

00:31:11.520 --> 00:31:14.920 align:center
So we knew that once we carry
out the neutralisation of targets

00:31:15.280 --> 00:31:18.640 align:center
Pakistan will also respond and
they will respond heavily.

00:31:20.280 --> 00:31:22.400 align:center
And we had to take
that into consideration

00:31:22.520 --> 00:31:25.720 align:center
because I knew for
sure that come what may,

00:31:25.840 --> 00:31:29.640 align:center
the moment this retaliation starts
it is going to start from the LoC.

00:31:30.280 --> 00:31:33.320 align:center
(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)

00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:41.480 align:center
We had already war-gamed that

00:31:47.080 --> 00:31:48.800 align:center
three, four levels beyond.

00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:50.680 align:center
So we were prepared for that.

00:31:53.840 --> 00:31:56.400 align:center
I also wanted to ensure that
my air defence

00:31:56.520 --> 00:31:59.960 align:center
and electronic warfare
grid is also in place.

00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:03.520 align:center
Just in case it's getting
into drone warfare,

00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:05.239 align:center
I should have my grid in place.

00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.920 align:center
And for this I couldn't
have done it on my own.

00:32:10.120 --> 00:32:12.880 align:center
I'm the Director General
of Army Air Defence.

00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:17.720 align:center
The Army Air Defence looks after
strategic and tactically important

00:32:17.840 --> 00:32:19.920 align:center
installations in India.

00:32:20.040 --> 00:32:22.480 align:center
The Air Force has
something called the IACCS.

00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:28.240 align:center
And the Army Air Defence has
something called

00:32:28.360 --> 00:32:29.840 align:center
the Akashteer system.

00:32:32.040 --> 00:32:33.480 align:center
It's a totally indigenous system.

00:32:35.080 --> 00:32:38.520 align:center
It's an outstanding control
and reporting system.

00:32:39.080 --> 00:32:41.960 align:center
It reports air threat and
controls your weapon systems.

00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:48.000 align:center
All our radars are networked
into an integrated system.

00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:54.839 align:center
And the weapons which are
also networked with this radar,

00:32:54.840 --> 00:32:57.280 align:center
they are also integrated
into this entire network.

00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:08.440 align:center
So it becomes like a giant mesh
which covers the entire country.

00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:14.600 align:center
The latency of the Akashteer
system from the IACCS

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to the weapon end is
two to three milliseconds.

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I mean that's the
capability that we have.

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Because an air threat manifests
in 18, 20, 30, 40 seconds.

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I knew that this air defence
is going to play a huge role

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in deterring Pakistan
from undertaking

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one aspect of the retaliation

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which is dealing with the airspace.

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And I also wanted to ensure
that there should be some kind of

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an escalation matrix
also should be worked out

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in such a manner that firstly
we should be dominating

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each and every ladder of escalation

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and secondly at every ladder,

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Pakistan must get an exit
window in case he wants to take.

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Pakistan carries out
misinformation at industrial scale.

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Denial, distortion,
fabrication of facts

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is something which they have
honed over a period of time.

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I came up with the
idea that we require

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credible real time visual
imagery of the strikes taking place

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and our quickly being able to
put them out at the world stage

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will destroy any scope
for Pakistan to carry out

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any kind of misinformation
on that account.

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The troops in ground will execute
the task that has to be done,

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and it will be left for us the
information warriors to be able to

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justify their actions to the world.

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As part of our planning to be
able to execute this in real time,

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I had nominated one
officer per live screen,

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whose job was to record
the exact time of impact

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at that particular target.

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While nobody was saying that it has
to be done tomorrow or day after,

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but in our minds, we knew
that we had selected the targets,

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we had put the
wherewithal into place

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we had carried out
operational rehearsals,

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now we needed to hone
on to the time and the date.

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To my people it was very clear that

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every day they are
getting is a day bonus,

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keep preparing.

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When the time comes you
need only that much time

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so they were quite confident,
quite relaxed,

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calm, composed and very clear.

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So on 1st of May when
I met Raksha Mantri

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and thereafter he decided
that it should be done

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on 7th of May early morning

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between 0100 hours to 0200 hours.

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So my complete
narrative was looking at

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that we should have rehearsals on
6th, 8th, 10th and final go on 12th.

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This way we were trying to make
sure that nobody gets to know

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that 7th is the date
which has been chosen.

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So surprise is a very big
part of the whole game

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while there is
rhetoric also going on,

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but they don't know
what is going to happen

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or what is the exact time,

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what is the exact targets
that have been chosen

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that is the major surprise.

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So it was not communicated
to me on telephone that

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listen Pratik this is the
day or this is the time

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when targeting had to be done.

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So a high state of surprise
was to be maintained,

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I had to send an officer,

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a brigadier level
officer he went to Delhi.

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Chief personally gave
him a small paper.

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He told him don't open it,

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you go and hand it over
to the Army Commander,

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and he will open it by himself.

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So 6th afternoon I got the time

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I had to keep it close to my heart.

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By the 6th morning,

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it was clear to us that
we were going to engage

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the targets that night.

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And we homed on to the time as 01:05
in the early hours of the morning,

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Because that's the time when

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the chances of you achieving
surprise are the maximum.

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Because if you were to do,
it let's say during the day,

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you might find the people in those
terror camps that you are hitting

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or they could be out,

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they could well be training,

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and as we were getting
closer to the strike

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the military operations
directorate itself

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was not aware that
that was the night.

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There was only one person there
who was aware and that was me.

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At a certain point in time after I
had informed the army commanders,

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I informed my own officers and staff

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in the military
operations directorate

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that tonight was the night.

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The exact indication came not more
than 7 hours prior to when we hit.

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In the afternoon our
commanding officer

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and flight commander had called us;

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only the required number of people

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that were supposed to
be there were present.

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We were told our targets,

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the formation was decided instantly,

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the package was selected and we were
told to get on to mission planning.

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So they were ready just
waiting for a go ahead.

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We let them know
with just sufficient time

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to execute those missions.

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It is all live now,

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there is no training
anymore in that.

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The mindset was very
clear through and through

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that yes we are
going for the missions

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and I think we have
prepared ourselves mentally.

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Fortunately Air force
strains the way we fight.

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The final day is final day
nobody can take that away.

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In the days leading up to the
6th and the 7th without exception,

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I was in the military
operations directorate

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for very very long hours,

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but on that particular day,

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I made a conscious effort
to leave the directorate

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at about 7 in the evening,

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to suggest to everybody
that it was business as usual.

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We didn't want anyone to get
to know that today is the D-day.

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In the evening at about
6 o'clock I told everybody

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let's pack up, and only let's
leave the duty officer here,

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and we will get meet
at about 10.30 or so.

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And quietly at that time
which was for me to go

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I had asked for only one vehicle,

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and I just quietly moved out.

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Nobody in the house came to know

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other than the guard
who shouted Jai Hind.

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At approximately
10 o'clock at night,

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my daughter and
son-in-law coincidentally

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happened to walk into the house,

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and when they found out
that I was headed to work

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they said we will drop you.

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They dropped me at South Block.

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I had planned my move out
of Delhi that particular evening.

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As for everybody else
AP Singh was airborne

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to go to some place in Baroda,

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got into an aircraft but
actually it never went to Baroda,

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we did one local sortie

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came back and landed nobody
knew that chief had landed back.

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I remember telling my household

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that I have got some work I
am going out so don't wait for me.

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Obviously nobody
knew where I was going.

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Short of midnight I asked my ADC

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to take out his personal car.

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I used the rear gate which
was never used by me.

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So we took different routes
to arrive at the operations room

00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:40.160 align:center
and in the joint operations room
all the service chiefs were present

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and we could see
whatever was happening live.

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I think it was about 11.30 at night

00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.240 align:center
when we started watching
the leadership of the army,

00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:58.640 align:center
the three services walking
inside the operations room

00:41:59.040 --> 00:42:03.160 align:center
that I suddenly realised that the
strikes would take place today.

00:42:08.720 --> 00:42:11.800 align:center
There were live feeds
coming in on multiple screens

00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:16.920 align:center
and we could clearly see the
targets in each of these feeds.

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It was a moment of great focus.

00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:23.520 align:center
I realised that we were
at a historic moment.

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What was also extremely
reassuring for me

00:42:30.520 --> 00:42:33.520 align:center
was to see the calmness in
each and every one of them.

00:42:35.520 --> 00:42:38.840 align:center
From the junior most officer right
up to the senior most leadership

00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:42.880 align:center
they were all united
in a sense of purpose.

00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:48.160 align:center
In the entire northern command
at that point of time

00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:52.160 align:center
everybody was very sure that
what they are expected to do,

00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:55.640 align:center
how it has to be executed,

00:42:57.840 --> 00:42:59.400 align:center
everything was in place.

00:42:59.520 --> 00:43:03.360 align:center
Everybody was just waiting
that when is the time to deliver.

00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.679 align:center
At that point in time
I was very confident

00:43:08.680 --> 00:43:12.360 align:center
having spent very very
long hours in the operation,

00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:16.000 align:center
putting everything into place.

00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.880 align:center
We had worked out
all the contingencies.

00:43:20.520 --> 00:43:24.680 align:center
So I felt that we had done
enough for the operation to succeed.

00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:26.240 align:center
But invariably,

00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:29.880 align:center
before any important event

00:43:30.720 --> 00:43:33.840 align:center
and this time was no exception,

00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.680 align:center
I did have some
butterflies in my stomach

00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:43.319 align:center
and as I stood in front of
a large number of screens,

00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:48.760 align:center
I suddenly had the sense
that what if the vectors don't hit,

00:43:49.160 --> 00:43:51.840 align:center
what if these cameras

00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:55.320 align:center
that are sending me these
images were to have a snag,

00:43:56.480 --> 00:43:58.800 align:center
what if everybody
comes and sits down here

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and there is no show.

