WEBVTT 06:30.963 --> 06:33.083 I demand an explanation, sir. 06:33.563 --> 06:34.923 Answer me. 06:39.483 --> 06:42.003 Answers are a response to questions, Vicky. 06:43.403 --> 06:46.723 Demands are either accepted or rejected. 06:48.603 --> 06:50.003 Which I have already done. 06:50.243 --> 06:52.003 Why didn't you do it yourself? 06:52.323 --> 06:55.643 Why did you reject my thesis in an email to the vice chancellor? 06:57.483 --> 06:59.243 It's a question this time, sir. 06:59.683 --> 07:00.963 You must answer. 07:02.243 --> 07:03.523 Personal development. 07:04.763 --> 07:06.283 Character building. 07:07.483 --> 07:09.123 Building the nation. 07:10.843 --> 07:12.243 Remember what it means? 07:12.363 --> 07:13.363 Of course. 07:13.883 --> 07:15.883 If you hadn't rejected it... 07:16.003 --> 07:19.963 Then the primary subject of my thesis would have been these RSS slogans. 07:20.283 --> 07:21.323 Slogans? 07:21.803 --> 07:23.483 This is your problem, Vicky. 07:25.323 --> 07:27.083 I asked you the meaning. 07:28.323 --> 07:29.843 And you're giving me references. 07:30.683 --> 07:32.003 That too wrong ones. 07:33.603 --> 07:35.243 These are not slogans. 07:36.963 --> 07:39.643 These are the three veins of the Sangh. 07:41.803 --> 07:44.923 Each swayamsevak's patriotism... 07:46.683 --> 07:49.123 runs through them. 07:49.963 --> 07:52.643 I had taught you all this three years ago. 07:53.283 --> 07:55.443 I had taught you something else too. 07:57.563 --> 07:58.803 Do you remember or... 07:58.963 --> 07:59.963 I remember. 08:01.003 --> 08:03.403 But until these three things are done 08:03.683 --> 08:04.963 the work will be incomplete. 08:05.083 --> 08:08.443 It has nothing to do with the rejection of my thesis. 08:08.763 --> 08:09.763 It does. 08:11.403 --> 08:17.283 I'm tired of trying to develop you as a person. 08:18.883 --> 08:20.403 But you... 08:21.883 --> 08:23.963 You couldn't build your character. 08:26.843 --> 08:28.803 These are not my signatures. 08:33.563 --> 08:38.443 And yet you mentioned me as your guide in your thesis. 08:39.883 --> 08:41.123 I know why. 08:42.363 --> 08:45.483 Because the path this guide showed you 08:47.243 --> 08:49.123 you were going in the opposite direction. 08:50.483 --> 08:51.483 That's why... 08:52.123 --> 08:55.283 That's why I got your thesis rejected. 08:56.443 --> 08:58.323 And I'll do it ten more times. 08:58.443 --> 08:59.803 Do whatever you want. 09:02.683 --> 09:06.243 "Ekam sat, vipr bahuda vadanti". 09:08.003 --> 09:09.523 There is only one Truth, sir. 09:10.083 --> 09:12.883 But wise men believe that there are many truths. 09:14.003 --> 09:16.883 This is something you've taught me. 09:17.323 --> 09:19.723 There might be multiple paths leading to the truth. 09:20.243 --> 09:21.923 But if the destination is Truth 09:23.083 --> 09:27.483 then it's our responsibility to remove all the obstacles on the way. 09:30.563 --> 09:32.842 Our paths are very different, sir. 09:32.843 --> 09:36.563 There was only one obstacle on my path. 09:36.883 --> 09:38.163 This signature. 09:39.763 --> 09:41.483 I have removed that too. 09:42.483 --> 09:43.803 Did I do something wrong? 09:44.243 --> 09:45.243 Tell me, sir. 09:45.483 --> 09:47.003 What was my mistake? 09:47.763 --> 09:51.403 And if I have done something wrong, prove it. 09:51.763 --> 09:54.763 If you can prove it, I'll back off. 09:56.803 --> 09:59.283 If you can't prove it... 10:00.483 --> 10:04.683 then you're no one to stop me in this independent nation. 10:04.843 --> 10:05.643 Who are you? 10:13.283 --> 10:15.203 I'm not stopping you, Vicky. 10:16.563 --> 10:18.763 I'm rectifying my mistake. 10:20.283 --> 10:22.003 Because you are my mistake. 10:30.003 --> 10:30.763 Sir! 10:32.483 --> 10:34.163 - Stop filming. - Sir! 10:34.523 --> 10:35.403 Sir. 10:39.603 --> 10:44.403 This is not your classroom where you can just say class dismissed. 10:45.283 --> 10:47.123 The conversation has just started. 10:47.563 --> 10:48.563 Vicky. 10:48.963 --> 10:50.283 Stop this circus. 10:50.483 --> 10:51.403 Leave right now. 10:51.603 --> 10:52.923 I want to leave, sir. 10:53.323 --> 10:55.723 But he has rejected my thesis. 10:56.763 --> 10:58.643 Along with my thesis... 11:00.003 --> 11:02.003 he wants to block my new way of thinking. 11:07.163 --> 11:09.283 It's your bad luck, sir. 11:10.203 --> 11:13.563 You can use your power to stop the publication of my thesis 11:13.883 --> 11:15.203 but not my voice. 11:15.603 --> 11:17.443 Is this a film shoot? 11:18.403 --> 11:20.323 - Stop the camera. - Why, sir? 11:22.243 --> 11:23.083 Why should we stop? 11:24.563 --> 11:28.403 You're doing all this to protect your beloved RSS. 11:46.003 --> 11:47.522 - Did you record that? - Yes, ma'am. 11:47.523 --> 11:48.563 Show me. 11:50.403 --> 11:52.163 - Share it with me, okay. - Okay. 12:03.683 --> 12:05.123 May I come in, sir? 12:07.123 --> 12:08.803 Sir, I'm Vicky Hegde. 12:09.283 --> 12:10.363 Your student. 12:12.083 --> 12:16.163 Sir, I want to write a thesis on the history of the RSS. 12:16.603 --> 12:18.123 On the hundred years of the RSS. 12:18.523 --> 12:22.443 And no one better to guide me on this topic but you. 12:23.483 --> 12:25.123 Will you please help me? 12:25.443 --> 12:27.083 Do you even know 12:28.403 --> 12:30.323 who established the Sangh? 12:30.723 --> 12:33.683 Dr. Keshavrao Baliram Hedgewar. 12:34.123 --> 12:36.723 Born 1889, April. 13:43.243 --> 13:47.643 Are you writing a thesis or making a hodgepodge? 13:48.203 --> 13:51.003 It's not a hodgepodge. It's a 12-course meal. 13:52.163 --> 13:53.403 And I can assure you, sir 13:53.603 --> 13:57.723 my thesis will reveal a lot of hidden truths 13:58.003 --> 13:59.603 about the history of the RSS. 15:10.283 --> 15:13.963 (students protesting) 15:29.123 --> 15:32.083 Sir, you're fighting against your professor and the Sangh. 15:32.683 --> 15:35.243 An educational institute is dedicated to Goddess Saraswati... 15:35.603 --> 15:36.723 Please tell us why. 15:37.563 --> 15:39.723 Both of us worship Saraswati, the goddess of knowledge. 15:39.883 --> 15:41.603 But no matter how beautiful the idol is 15:41.803 --> 15:44.683 if it's covered in dust then it can't be worshipped. 15:44.883 --> 15:46.803 What does that have to do with the Sangh? 15:47.123 --> 15:49.562 Many swayamsevaks 15:49.563 --> 15:54.443 are propagating their ideologies in schools, colleges... 15:54.643 --> 15:56.523 They're trying to fool us too. 15:56.643 --> 15:58.523 They've been lying to us for years. 15:59.603 --> 16:03.122 Every time new India has raised their voice... 16:03.123 --> 16:04.923 they've been systematically silenced. 16:05.123 --> 16:07.363 What exactly is your thesis about? 16:08.723 --> 16:10.483 The truth about the RSS is my thesis. 16:10.723 --> 16:12.083 The truth they've hidden for years. 16:12.523 --> 16:14.163 But I'm going to unmask the truth. 16:14.323 --> 16:17.723 Your thesis has been rejected. What do you have to say about that? 16:18.843 --> 16:21.003 No one can reject my thesis now. 16:21.323 --> 16:22.723 And no one can silence me. 16:23.003 --> 16:25.523 What about your own teacher slapping you? 16:25.963 --> 16:27.763 He didn't just slap me. 16:28.083 --> 16:32.803 He slapped every Indian citizen who dared to seek the truth. Got it? 16:34.483 --> 16:35.763 But my thesis... 16:35.923 --> 16:37.563 ...will expose the RSS. 16:38.163 --> 16:41.003 The RSS is an anti-national organisation. 16:41.243 --> 16:42.843 How can you call the RSS-- 16:45.243 --> 16:47.483 Do they even know what anti-national means? 16:49.523 --> 16:53.123 A group that has not picked up weapons in the last 100 years. 16:53.443 --> 16:54.523 They are... 16:55.803 --> 16:56.803 Anyway... 17:02.243 --> 17:03.162 And you? 17:03.163 --> 17:04.643 Why are you surprised? 17:07.203 --> 17:12.763 Prabha, in life either you win or you learn a lesson. 17:14.003 --> 17:16.723 And there's only one lesson in our life. 17:19.883 --> 17:24.443 Don't get too used to the good times. 17:28.403 --> 17:30.243 It'll eventually leave you in tears. 17:35.723 --> 17:36.723 Let me see. 17:37.963 --> 17:39.483 I'll put some ointment at night. 17:39.603 --> 17:40.843 It'll be fine by morning. 17:43.203 --> 17:43.883 Prabha. 17:53.323 --> 17:55.363 So many years of pain. 17:56.083 --> 17:58.283 Can it be healed overnight? 18:00.283 --> 18:03.643 When we carry some pain for years... 18:05.083 --> 18:08.483 Unknowingly, we make it our own. 18:09.443 --> 18:11.683 We help them grow with care. 18:12.683 --> 18:14.243 Then it doesn't hurt so much. 18:45.683 --> 18:48.163 On time. Very good. 18:49.203 --> 18:50.283 Shut the door. 19:04.283 --> 19:06.683 The path you've chosen, Vicky... 19:07.883 --> 19:12.083 You need to keep an open mind for that. But behind closed doors. 19:13.363 --> 19:14.723 Start training now. 19:15.083 --> 19:16.883 You'll find it handy later on. Okay? 19:17.923 --> 19:18.923 Thank you, Vicky. 19:20.563 --> 19:24.083 One needs guts to do what you did. Right? 19:25.963 --> 19:30.203 That one slap made you shake up the entire system. 19:33.323 --> 19:35.403 Ma'am, one doesn't need guts to get slapped. 19:36.683 --> 19:37.562 Only jaws. 19:37.563 --> 19:39.563 - Ipshita! - Yes. 19:39.683 --> 19:43.563 Where's the thesis index I'd asked for? 19:46.203 --> 19:49.203 Whether my instructions are written or spoken... 19:49.923 --> 19:51.403 Don't you ever cut them. 19:52.443 --> 19:53.443 Yes, ma'am. 19:56.243 --> 20:01.003 So, Vicky, you should keep an open mind now. Right? 20:02.003 --> 20:05.763 Because until now you were under Nadkarni's wing. 20:06.363 --> 20:10.523 He narrates the written truth quite well. I mean... 20:10.923 --> 20:11.963 With all due respect. 20:15.723 --> 20:17.603 But once you're under my wing 20:17.803 --> 20:22.083 you'll learn that truth doesn't need to be narrated. 20:23.003 --> 20:26.083 Narratives need to be turned into truth. 20:26.763 --> 20:27.643 Noted, ma'am. 20:29.603 --> 20:32.763 By the way, which one is your wing? 20:33.363 --> 20:34.962 Right wing or-- 20:34.963 --> 20:37.523 Left is always right. 20:45.803 --> 20:48.523 And ma'am, thank you. 20:48.803 --> 20:52.163 For making my "slap video" go viral. 20:54.363 --> 20:55.363 Good night. 20:57.523 --> 21:00.883 Ma'am, he thinks you made the video go viral. Meaning? 21:02.603 --> 21:05.083 Meaning he doesn't only have an open mind. 21:06.443 --> 21:07.443 But a sharp mind too. 21:14.843 --> 21:16.643 Hey! What? 21:16.763 --> 21:18.803 Vicky, please don't get involved with them. 21:19.243 --> 21:21.603 They're supporting you now because you're in the news. 21:22.243 --> 21:25.683 When you fall none of them will come to your rescue. 21:25.963 --> 21:29.003 So, Saara, you're confident that I'll fall. 21:30.323 --> 21:31.482 I'm not going to fall. 21:31.483 --> 21:34.802 And even if I do these people will pull me up. 21:34.803 --> 21:35.603 Got it? 21:36.283 --> 21:38.123 Prof. Nadkarni always said... 21:38.763 --> 21:40.123 If we fall 21:40.283 --> 21:44.323 it makes a huge difference who helps up get back up. 21:44.443 --> 21:47.083 Maybe it made a difference to him. Makes no difference to me. 21:47.723 --> 21:49.283 Saara, I need to reach my goal. 21:49.883 --> 21:55.122 I don't care if the car that takes me there is red, saffron or green-- 21:55.123 --> 21:56.483 It does make a difference, Vicky! 21:57.723 --> 21:59.003 They're not right. 21:59.323 --> 22:02.443 Whoever takes me to my destination is right for me. 22:03.083 --> 22:03.843 Got it? 22:07.803 --> 22:11.483 Mumbai Institute of Arts and Economics student, Vicky's actions today 22:11.603 --> 22:14.283 has sent shockwaves that will be felt in Delhi too. 22:14.443 --> 22:18.323 Viral video sensation, Vicky Hegde, one slap and a revolution. 22:18.443 --> 22:20.882 On social media, #JusticeforVicky 22:20.883 --> 22:24.402 and #MumbaiCollegeCrisis are trending. 22:24.403 --> 22:25.402 The video where Vicky... 22:25.403 --> 22:29.242 talks about removing the dust has millions of views. 22:29.243 --> 22:31.283 Students have launched a digital war. 22:31.443 --> 22:34.563 Universities across the world have shown support for Vicky. 22:34.763 --> 22:39.083 Is it safe for just one student to go against such a big organisation? 22:39.243 --> 22:41.283 Vicky said he'll not back off. 22:41.443 --> 22:43.443 (students protesting) 23:21.443 --> 23:24.723 Look, we should restrict this here. 23:25.243 --> 23:28.683 No one will gain anything by washing dirty linen in public. 23:29.603 --> 23:31.163 Vicky, you want respect. 23:31.363 --> 23:33.483 I'll give it you. I assure you. 23:34.683 --> 23:37.003 Nadkarni, you have problems with the camera? 23:37.723 --> 23:39.283 I'll give you the assurance. 23:39.843 --> 23:43.163 No cameras. No CCTV. Closed rooms. 23:43.323 --> 23:46.483 Nadkarni, Vicky, do you agree? 23:47.283 --> 23:49.803 We'll decide everything here. 23:52.163 --> 23:52.843 Ready? 23:57.083 --> 23:59.002 Okay. It's decided then. 23:59.003 --> 24:00.203 Let's finish this now. 24:03.803 --> 24:05.443 Ma'am, we have a problem. 24:05.763 --> 24:07.762 VC is convincing him for a closed-door meeting. 24:07.763 --> 24:08.963 He'll compromise. 24:09.123 --> 24:12.323 Didn't I tell you to send more people to the fountain? 24:13.203 --> 24:14.323 Did you? 24:14.883 --> 24:17.363 Ma'am, you're not listening to me. He'll give in. 24:20.323 --> 24:23.403 Didn't you hear him clearly yesterday? 24:25.003 --> 24:27.923 If I've understood him even a little 24:28.883 --> 24:31.483 then he'll not let anything happen behind closed doors. 24:33.603 --> 24:34.883 You know why, Ipshita? 24:35.563 --> 24:36.803 Because he's a bomb. 24:36.923 --> 24:38.763 And bombs only know one thing. 24:39.843 --> 24:40.723 Boom! 24:45.363 --> 24:46.363 Vicky is here. 24:46.483 --> 24:48.083 (indistinct chatter) 24:51.843 --> 24:52.843 Sir. 24:53.603 --> 24:56.483 We'll talk behind closed doors. 24:57.083 --> 25:00.123 But sir, I have five questions. 25:00.683 --> 25:05.003 If you answer those, I'll take my thesis back. 25:12.763 --> 25:14.323 Where are you going, sir? 25:15.123 --> 25:16.803 The class is about to begin. 25:18.443 --> 25:20.922 Sir, what's the hurry? 25:20.923 --> 25:22.003 Hold on. 25:22.963 --> 25:23.963 Sir. 25:25.483 --> 25:26.883 Sir, please stop. 25:27.243 --> 25:29.083 There's one more class you must teach. 25:29.243 --> 25:31.883 Sir! Sir! One minute, sir! One minute! 25:37.323 --> 25:39.403 Looks like you're in a rush. 25:40.803 --> 25:44.803 Sir, you call yourself my guide. My guru. 25:45.883 --> 25:47.843 I've asked you five questions. 25:48.443 --> 25:50.683 And if you can answer them... 25:51.923 --> 25:53.003 I'll disappear. 25:53.683 --> 25:56.763 But if you fail to answer even one question... 25:57.603 --> 26:00.643 Then the truth about the RSS will come out in the open. 26:01.003 --> 26:02.243 My question is... 26:02.363 --> 26:03.763 Do you accept this challenge? 26:07.643 --> 26:08.643 What happened, sir? 26:09.003 --> 26:10.362 Why are you so quiet? 26:10.363 --> 26:11.683 Why aren't you saying anything? 26:13.803 --> 26:15.923 Take this megaphone. 26:16.923 --> 26:18.283 Talk through this. 26:18.483 --> 26:20.763 Anyway, you are a mouthpiece for the RSS. 26:25.883 --> 26:28.123 Do you see this Nataraj idol, Vicky? 26:29.443 --> 26:31.563 Can you all see this Nataraj idol? 26:34.803 --> 26:36.723 What is under his feet? 26:37.443 --> 26:39.483 Most people often think it's a child. 26:40.603 --> 26:41.763 It's not a child. 26:42.203 --> 26:43.763 It's a dwarf demon. 26:44.243 --> 26:45.643 Apasmarasur. 26:46.723 --> 26:51.203 A symbol of ignorance and your memory loss. 26:53.003 --> 26:54.803 That which makes you forget everything. 26:56.923 --> 26:59.603 Dignity, knowledge, education! 27:00.123 --> 27:02.163 Sometimes when the student... 27:02.843 --> 27:05.283 becomes a demon like Apasmarasur... 27:05.883 --> 27:07.763 then the teacher has to become like Nataraj. 27:09.923 --> 27:12.763 You said I don't have the answers. 27:13.443 --> 27:17.283 I do have the answers. I always did. 27:18.123 --> 27:21.323 But do you have the patience to understand the answers? 27:21.803 --> 27:23.323 I have a lot of patience. 27:23.603 --> 27:26.723 But we have waited for this for 75 years. 27:27.483 --> 27:29.123 Let's settle it today. 27:29.603 --> 27:30.603 What do you say? 27:31.003 --> 27:32.283 Okay. Ask away. 27:32.603 --> 27:35.763 Right here. In front of everyone. 27:36.203 --> 27:37.843 Great! Alright. 27:43.403 --> 27:46.363 So, here's my question number one. 27:47.203 --> 27:51.003 The Sangh that Prof. Nadkarni is such a huge fan of... 27:51.403 --> 27:53.083 Their claim to fame is... 27:53.723 --> 27:56.483 that they've been banned thrice. 27:56.883 --> 27:58.883 In fact, after Independence 27:59.323 --> 28:02.803 the Indian government had immediately banned them. 28:03.083 --> 28:04.563 Am I right, sir? 28:04.883 --> 28:07.843 In 1948, after Gandhi's assassination. 28:11.083 --> 28:13.083 My question is very simple, sir. 28:13.683 --> 28:16.443 If the organisation that was banned by the Indian government 28:16.563 --> 28:20.283 is not anti-national, then what is it? 28:20.923 --> 28:21.643 Tell me, sir. 28:23.003 --> 28:26.443 You said the Indian government had banned RSS. 28:27.803 --> 28:28.803 You are right. 28:29.923 --> 28:30.923 But... 28:32.003 --> 28:34.203 if the ban was justified... 28:34.323 --> 28:37.443 then why was it lifted? What does it prove? 28:38.603 --> 28:39.803 Vicky. 28:40.523 --> 28:43.003 We didn't kill Gandhi. 28:45.363 --> 28:46.643 I have a question for you. 28:46.963 --> 28:52.443 Who was the first person to mourn Gandhi's death? 28:53.483 --> 28:56.763 Guruji, there's a telegram from the Delhi office. 28:57.083 --> 28:58.243 Gandhi is no more. 28:58.603 --> 28:59.683 Godse has... 29:00.883 --> 29:02.163 Ram! 29:03.723 --> 29:06.843 This is very unfortunate for the nation. 29:10.363 --> 29:12.603 Halt all programmes. 29:13.563 --> 29:15.283 The country is in mourning. 29:16.083 --> 29:19.083 The Sangh will also be in mourning for 13 days. 29:25.083 --> 29:27.883 "Om shanti om!" 29:28.083 --> 29:30.243 - "Om shanti om!" - "Om shanti shanti!" 29:32.203 --> 29:34.003 (radio playing) 29:45.243 --> 29:47.922 Guruji, they're burning Brahmins down in Pune. 29:47.923 --> 29:49.723 The fire will spread to Nagpur soon. 29:49.963 --> 29:51.602 We are concerned about your safety. 29:51.603 --> 29:52.922 We'll give them a fitting reply. 29:52.923 --> 29:54.523 (all agreeing) 29:57.003 --> 29:58.003 Quiet! 29:58.163 --> 29:59.163 Calm down. 29:59.683 --> 30:01.203 They are our people too. 30:02.803 --> 30:03.883 They've lost their way. 30:05.123 --> 30:08.003 We'll not respond to violence with more violence. 30:08.523 --> 30:10.403 We too believe in non-violence. 30:13.083 --> 30:13.923 Guruji. 30:14.083 --> 30:15.243 Orders from higher authority. 30:15.483 --> 30:18.003 I have to arrest you. 30:18.283 --> 30:22.883 If my arrest brings peace to the nation 30:23.443 --> 30:24.963 then I'm ready. 30:25.683 --> 30:27.083 Stop, Guruji! 30:28.083 --> 30:29.683 (indistinct chatter) 30:32.963 --> 30:35.283 Please break your vow of silence, Mr. Golwalkar. 30:36.003 --> 30:38.643 Godse has admitted that he was a member of the RSS. 30:39.283 --> 30:41.523 And the Sangh taught him how to fire a gun. 30:42.923 --> 30:44.723 We just need a signature. 30:45.643 --> 30:47.723 Assume that you gave the orders. 30:48.683 --> 30:52.163 Godse had left the Sangh many years back. 30:53.763 --> 30:56.643 He wants pure politics. 30:57.083 --> 30:59.483 And we want culture. 30:59.883 --> 31:02.483 The world will not understand this technicality. 31:03.083 --> 31:06.443 The government believes that crime festered in your backyard. 31:07.083 --> 31:09.083 If you don't take responsibility 31:09.323 --> 31:11.443 we'll destroy the Sangh completely. 31:11.723 --> 31:16.323 The Sangh is not a building that you can destroy. 31:17.963 --> 31:19.683 It's a school of thought. 31:20.523 --> 31:21.843 It exists today. 31:22.883 --> 31:25.923 And it'll still exist in India after 100 years. 31:29.083 --> 31:30.643 "Truth alone triumphs". 31:31.963 --> 31:36.243 Your Honour, I don't repent anything I've done. 31:37.803 --> 31:39.003 One more thing. 31:39.683 --> 31:41.803 I had quit the Sangh a long time back. 31:42.643 --> 31:44.883 Because I wanted to be active in politics. 31:46.683 --> 31:48.243 That was my own decision. 31:49.243 --> 31:51.763 The act you are labelling as crime... 31:52.563 --> 31:54.883 The honour of carrying it out is mine alone. 31:55.483 --> 31:56.643 And I'm proud of it! 31:56.843 --> 31:59.002 Long live "Akandh Bharat", undivided India! 31:59.003 --> 32:01.483 - Long live! - Long live! 32:11.923 --> 32:13.242 So, according to you 32:13.243 --> 32:16.563 the RSS had nothing to do with Gandhi's assassination. 32:16.883 --> 32:18.083 Please tell us the truth. 32:18.203 --> 32:20.923 Gandhi's spirit will sob hearing your lies. 32:22.803 --> 32:25.003 Vicky, you're talking about Gandhi. 32:26.443 --> 32:31.883 Do you know what he thought about the RSS? 32:36.563 --> 32:38.643 - Left, right, left. - Left, right, left. 32:48.123 --> 32:50.283 RASHTRIYA SWAYAMSEVAK SANGH BRANCH - WARDHA MAHARASHTRA 32:50.843 --> 32:54.363 You've been a part of the Congress yourself. 32:55.203 --> 32:59.003 Then why didn't you establish the Sangh with the Congress? 33:00.003 --> 33:01.803 If you'd done that 33:02.683 --> 33:05.963 the Congress could have shared the blessings. 33:06.483 --> 33:08.003 I had tried. 33:08.603 --> 33:10.483 With Dr. Paranjape. 33:12.083 --> 33:13.163 But... 33:14.803 --> 33:16.723 We didn't succeed. 33:17.123 --> 33:18.963 Because of Laxmi, the goddess of wealth? 33:19.443 --> 33:22.443 It was never about the money. 33:23.083 --> 33:25.003 It was a difference of principles. 33:25.923 --> 33:30.323 I believe the nation doesn't need only politics. 33:31.083 --> 33:33.083 We need to build it on character. 33:35.203 --> 33:40.003 Without any character, independence would be reduced to an empty voice. 33:41.763 --> 33:43.643 It can still be heard. 33:45.483 --> 33:47.883 But it would lack strength. 33:50.603 --> 33:52.603 It is a very difficult path. 33:52.843 --> 33:55.563 The path of the truth is always difficult. 33:57.083 --> 33:58.763 You already know that. 34:06.243 --> 34:08.163 July, 1949. 34:08.683 --> 34:10.363 The ban was lifted. 34:10.683 --> 34:13.603 Unconditionally... Without any strings. 34:13.883 --> 34:16.003 You tell me, Vicky. Why? 34:19.803 --> 34:20.803 Answer me. 34:21.443 --> 34:25.803 Because the Indian government couldn't prove beyond doubt 34:26.123 --> 34:28.323 that the RSS is anti-nationalist. 34:28.483 --> 34:29.323 Right? 34:29.443 --> 34:31.363 Exactly. Thank you. 34:33.363 --> 34:35.923 Now think calmly. 34:36.363 --> 34:38.283 If the ban was justified 34:38.723 --> 34:40.963 would the Indian government lift the ban? 34:41.963 --> 34:43.763 Banning the RSS 34:44.843 --> 34:48.203 was considered ethically and legally wrong. 34:48.563 --> 34:52.443 In spite of this, the RSS has shown patriotism. 34:52.603 --> 34:55.123 Choosing non-violence over violence. 34:55.443 --> 34:56.603 Now you tell me. 34:57.003 --> 34:59.003 Is this behaviour anti-nationalist? 34:59.363 --> 35:02.003 Or is it the definition of a true nationalist? 35:02.243 --> 35:03.243 Wow, sir! 35:04.003 --> 35:04.923 That's amazing! 35:05.323 --> 35:08.083 It'll be great fun to participate in a debate with you. 35:08.203 --> 35:10.363 Can you calm down a bit, sir? 35:10.603 --> 35:12.722 Because when you get worked up 35:12.723 --> 35:15.123 you tend to slap people. 35:15.483 --> 35:16.762 What I mean to say is... 35:16.763 --> 35:18.483 Don't shoot the messenger. 35:18.803 --> 35:19.803 Okay, sir? 35:20.523 --> 35:23.323 Things like debate are part of Western thinking. 35:24.003 --> 35:25.883 Debate means argument. 35:26.123 --> 35:31.963 India believes in "samvad" that's constructive discussion. 35:32.963 --> 35:34.563 That's what we believe in. 35:35.443 --> 35:36.963 I have taught you this. 35:37.163 --> 35:43.123 Words and weapons roll off an Indian's tongue with equal ease. 35:44.803 --> 35:48.003 Do you need more clarifications to your first question? 35:48.363 --> 35:50.243 Or you can ask your next question. 35:55.443 --> 35:56.603 Okay. Okay. 35:56.963 --> 35:59.643 Let's give him the due advantage. 36:00.443 --> 36:04.882 The RSS had nothing to do with Gandhi's assassination. 36:04.883 --> 36:05.923 But sir... 36:06.163 --> 36:08.123 What about 1975? 36:10.003 --> 36:11.003 Emergency. 36:11.123 --> 36:14.483 According to the order issued by the Government of India 36:14.643 --> 36:17.323 all news mediums must 36:17.443 --> 36:23.003 seek approval before publishing. 36:24.803 --> 36:27.003 Who is Girish Nadkarni? 36:27.963 --> 36:28.802 It's me. 36:28.803 --> 36:31.523 Come with us. We're here to arrest you. 36:31.643 --> 36:32.642 Father! 36:32.643 --> 36:34.283 (indistinct chatter) 36:35.283 --> 36:37.522 When the entire country was burning... 36:37.523 --> 36:40.563 - Where are you taking him? - Father! 36:41.123 --> 36:42.763 - Father! - Let go! 36:47.763 --> 36:50.243 When the entire opposition was in jail... 36:53.603 --> 36:57.163 Your leaders were writing letters to Indira Gandhi. 36:57.963 --> 37:00.323 "Please... Let us go." 37:01.603 --> 37:03.483 "We'll not get involved in politics." 37:06.803 --> 37:09.363 Sir, this is my second question. 37:12.003 --> 37:13.523 Isn't it true? 37:14.163 --> 37:16.123 When it was time to fight 37:16.843 --> 37:18.963 the Sangh had taken the knee. 37:19.403 --> 37:20.843 What a shame! 37:22.403 --> 37:23.443 What a tragedy! 37:26.603 --> 37:28.883 You read the letters, Vicky. 37:30.323 --> 37:32.203 Not the thoughts behind them. 37:33.963 --> 37:36.203 You think it was fear? 37:38.323 --> 37:42.203 Thankfully during Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj's time 37:44.123 --> 37:45.883 there was no social media. 37:46.963 --> 37:49.603 Otherwise these so-called Leftists... 37:50.683 --> 37:52.443 If they were present 37:53.563 --> 37:55.003 and got to know 37:55.243 --> 37:58.243 that Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj is going to meet Afzal Khan 37:58.643 --> 38:00.003 they would've made hashtags. 38:00.163 --> 38:02.322 "Will Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj bend the knee?" 38:02.323 --> 38:03.923 It would have gone viral. 38:06.723 --> 38:07.723 But Vicky... 38:08.323 --> 38:11.403 When a tiger pounces to kill its enemy 38:11.683 --> 38:14.083 it first takes a step back. 38:14.363 --> 38:17.803 At that time, lakhs of swayamsevaks were in jail. 38:18.003 --> 38:19.843 Their families were out on the streets. 38:20.323 --> 38:21.323 Helpless. 38:22.003 --> 38:25.563 A general's duty is not just to fight. 38:26.083 --> 38:29.643 It is also to protect his soldiers. 38:31.283 --> 38:32.283 Father. 38:32.523 --> 38:34.883 Everyone is saying you've done something wrong. 38:35.323 --> 38:38.363 The police are saying you're an enemy of the country. 38:39.203 --> 38:41.803 When the authorities are scared of being questioned 38:42.123 --> 38:44.763 they turn the people who ask the questions into enemies. 38:45.083 --> 38:46.363 Don't be scared. 38:46.763 --> 38:48.003 Never be afraid. 38:48.443 --> 38:51.763 You need the courage of a swayamsevak to tell the truth. 38:52.243 --> 38:53.243 Remember that. 38:56.243 --> 38:57.963 Sulochana Nadkarni. 38:58.163 --> 38:59.403 GIRISH NADKARNI 39:02.363 --> 39:03.803 Mother, what's wrong? 39:07.483 --> 39:10.003 Your father is no more. 39:24.243 --> 39:25.763 That was strategy. 39:27.643 --> 39:30.883 To ensure thousands of fathers could return home. 39:34.563 --> 39:36.843 So that those children didn't become orphans. 39:38.723 --> 39:41.643 You call the RSS's action tragedy. 39:41.963 --> 39:44.403 Whereas it is the RSS that saved this democracy. 39:45.123 --> 39:47.722 When I was in jail during the Emergency 39:47.723 --> 39:50.723 I observed the swayamsevaks. 39:50.923 --> 39:52.723 When we were all put in jail. 39:53.003 --> 39:55.243 I saw how disciplined you were. 39:57.083 --> 40:01.963 Your sacrifice and your service changed my mind. 40:02.243 --> 40:03.762 I noticed how, even in captivity 40:03.763 --> 40:06.802 you set aside ideas of caste and creed and remained united. 40:06.803 --> 40:10.683 I realised the future of the nation is secure in your hands. 40:12.443 --> 40:16.282 Your contribution to the fight against the Emergency 40:16.283 --> 40:19.003 would be etched in gold on the pages of history. 40:19.163 --> 40:23.362 The maximum number of protestors to be jailed were RSS workers. 40:23.363 --> 40:26.563 Without your cadres and your organisation 40:26.883 --> 40:29.363 this revolution could never be successful. 40:29.563 --> 40:32.802 You have sacrificed yourself for the sake of democracy. 40:32.803 --> 40:35.563 The nation will forever be in your debt. 40:41.483 --> 40:42.803 Emotional blackmail. 40:43.443 --> 40:45.123 These are all stories. 40:45.363 --> 40:46.923 He has no proof. 40:47.803 --> 40:51.403 Sir, if you're so honest and if you have the guts 40:52.123 --> 40:54.323 then answer my third question. 40:56.123 --> 40:57.923 Year 1992. 40:58.123 --> 40:59.163 Babri Masjid. 41:00.163 --> 41:01.883 What was the strategy? 41:02.683 --> 41:04.683 That was a crime. 41:06.683 --> 41:08.843 Do you have the guts to answer my question? 41:09.243 --> 41:10.483 What's going on? 41:12.963 --> 41:14.123 Sir, are you okay? 41:15.843 --> 41:17.842 What's going on? Show's over. 41:17.843 --> 41:19.443 Everybody get back to class. Come on. 41:29.283 --> 41:31.843 Ma'am does your wing always interrupt? 41:32.483 --> 41:34.923 You'd lost after asking your five questions. 41:36.123 --> 41:38.243 Remember, I saved you. 41:42.763 --> 41:43.763 Let's go. 41:53.643 --> 41:54.643 Ma'am. 41:55.083 --> 41:56.083 Vicky is losing it. 41:56.403 --> 41:57.963 He's digressing from the topic. 41:58.563 --> 41:59.963 Wrong place, wrong time. 42:00.683 --> 42:02.003 It was the right time. 42:02.643 --> 42:03.643 But the place was wrong. 42:04.283 --> 42:05.803 He is not lost, Ipshita. 42:06.923 --> 42:08.163 He is expanding. 42:09.843 --> 42:11.123 The boy has a lot of fire. 42:11.923 --> 42:14.843 And fire needs oxygen. 42:15.563 --> 42:16.563 What do you mean? 42:16.683 --> 42:21.563 This topic is too big for the university campus. 42:22.483 --> 42:24.003 It needs to be on prime time. 42:30.803 --> 42:32.123 Hey babe, how are you? 42:33.163 --> 42:37.203 You know the coverage of Mrs. Roy's books was incredible. 42:37.323 --> 42:38.122 Too good. 42:38.123 --> 42:39.203 Now, listen. 42:39.963 --> 42:43.123 I have gold for you. 42:50.683 --> 42:52.483 Our previous agendas were not successful. 42:52.683 --> 42:54.563 That's why we couldn't topple the government. 42:55.523 --> 42:57.163 There's a very important topic. 42:57.683 --> 43:00.282 We can expose the relationship between the government and the RSS 43:00.283 --> 43:01.883 for political benefit. 43:02.203 --> 43:05.403 We can brew hatred in the hearts of the citizens. 43:06.163 --> 43:08.363 We'll bring about change with the power of the youth. 43:10.603 --> 43:13.123 Another thing... We have a professor there. 43:13.883 --> 43:15.643 Pallavi Menon. 43:16.203 --> 43:17.883 Contact her and tell her 43:18.003 --> 43:20.523 to help all our people in the college. 43:21.323 --> 43:22.843 The narrative should be set. 43:24.443 --> 43:27.883 This Prof. Nadkarni of the RSS... 43:28.003 --> 43:29.843 Assassinate his character. 43:31.843 --> 43:34.283 Give political support to the student movement. 43:35.003 --> 43:37.683 Every person should be forced to take sides. 43:38.083 --> 43:39.083 Our side. 43:43.963 --> 43:46.763 Mr. Aditya Rao. I'm surprised. 43:47.003 --> 43:48.603 It took you so much time. 43:49.203 --> 43:51.003 I'm giving you a chance 43:51.643 --> 43:54.923 to be the face of the biggest debate of the year. 43:55.283 --> 43:57.163 Student versus teacher. 43:57.883 --> 44:00.683 Left wing versus right wing. 44:00.803 --> 44:02.962 Student Vicky Hegde. 44:02.963 --> 44:05.602 - Teacher Prof. Dr. Gopal Nadkarni. - Correct! 44:05.603 --> 44:06.443 My professor. 44:06.763 --> 44:10.923 Your ex-professor who'll come to the debate-- 44:12.003 --> 44:13.923 Firstly, this guy... 44:14.203 --> 44:15.922 The stunt that he has pulled... he'll never come. 44:15.923 --> 44:17.003 Listen to me. 44:17.323 --> 44:19.523 Vicky Hegde has already been convinced 44:19.643 --> 44:21.883 by my old classmate, Pallavi. 44:22.243 --> 44:23.963 He will come. 44:24.563 --> 44:26.003 And you bring Nadkarni. 44:26.243 --> 44:27.642 The debate is yours. 44:27.643 --> 44:31.642 Ms. Kavya Rawat, you've stopped him from coming to this newsroom 44:31.643 --> 44:33.163 because he is from the RSS. 44:33.643 --> 44:35.963 And today you're inviting him to this newsroom 44:36.363 --> 44:37.643 because he is from the RSS. 44:39.243 --> 44:40.243 How convenient! 44:42.443 --> 44:43.723 I'll talk to him. 44:44.763 --> 44:45.843 But don't play the ticker. 44:46.603 --> 44:48.723 Don't give me that look. Been there and done that. Okay? 44:48.923 --> 44:51.483 I'll talk to him and if it's a yes, okay. 44:52.683 --> 44:54.683 I'm telling you... Okay? 44:56.483 --> 44:57.483 Play the ticker. 44:58.443 --> 44:59.443 It's a news channel. 44:59.883 --> 45:02.843 If there's no promotion, there won't be any commotion. 45:03.283 --> 45:08.683 Bharat Express presents the biggest debate of the year. 45:08.803 --> 45:10.123 Monday Battle Royale. 45:10.243 --> 45:12.403 This Monday at 12 noon. 45:12.603 --> 45:15.883 Can the teacher answer when the student bombards him with questions? 45:16.083 --> 45:18.683 Don't forget to tune in. Exclusively on Bharat Express. 45:18.803 --> 45:21.083 (students protesting) 45:28.083 --> 45:31.282 The administration of the Mumbai Institute of Arts and Economics 45:31.283 --> 45:33.003 have been gheraoed. 45:33.243 --> 45:37.202 While the students protest violently, the faculty also seem divided... 45:37.203 --> 45:39.283 ...in their opinion. 45:40.803 --> 45:42.643 An absolute gridlock at CSMT. 45:42.763 --> 45:44.323 Protestors have occupied the tracks. 45:44.443 --> 45:47.763 Now the lifeline of the city has come to a complete standstill. 45:48.083 --> 45:51.443 We have to be on high alert in all these locations. 45:51.723 --> 45:54.082 Use force to stop, not to hurt. 45:54.083 --> 45:56.283 (students protesting) 46:02.443 --> 46:06.283 The area around the university has been turned into a virtual fortress. 46:06.563 --> 46:09.963 Several clashes between the police and the protestors have been reported. 46:10.243 --> 46:13.523 Police Commissioner has urged everyone to maintain peace. 46:13.723 --> 46:17.003 But Vicky's supporters aren't ready to back off. 46:17.243 --> 46:19.003 Would the police have to use force? 46:19.563 --> 46:21.283 The situation is rife with tension. 46:21.403 --> 46:24.203 (students protesting) 46:25.083 --> 46:26.443 Are you students or politicians? 46:26.603 --> 46:28.483 Why aren't you in college and out here blocking traffic? 46:28.683 --> 46:31.363 Are you asking us whether we are politicians or not? 46:31.483 --> 46:34.003 Can you ask Prof. Nadkarni the same question? 46:34.403 --> 46:37.483 Then tell us who is the real politician? 46:37.843 --> 46:41.443 Who is consciously injecting the system with his own ideology? 46:41.563 --> 46:44.203 The citywide chaos that you have created seems... 46:44.443 --> 46:46.083 ...so performative and directionless. 46:46.283 --> 46:48.363 Our professor was the one who created the scene. 46:48.643 --> 46:50.162 We have simply expanded our reach. 46:50.163 --> 46:51.842 So the entire nation has to listen. 46:51.843 --> 46:54.683 We're on the streets because we have nothing to hide. 46:54.803 --> 46:58.562 Vicky is gaining support from universities across the world. 46:58.563 --> 47:00.323 (students protesting) 47:20.563 --> 47:22.723 You've put on weight, sethji. 47:25.563 --> 47:27.283 Put the bag in the car's boot. 47:28.643 --> 47:31.203 Let your boss know the job will be done. 47:42.603 --> 47:44.243 Look, Prof. Nadkarni. 47:45.203 --> 47:46.843 I have a lot of respect for you. 47:48.923 --> 47:51.923 But this is about the university's reputation. 47:52.323 --> 47:55.243 I've been constantly getting calls from the trustees. 47:55.683 --> 47:58.683 They want you to formally apologise. 47:59.283 --> 48:00.483 An apology letter. 48:01.603 --> 48:04.763 You can say you were angry and... 48:05.123 --> 48:07.723 And you took it out on the student by mistake. 48:09.003 --> 48:10.003 Simple. 48:15.843 --> 48:18.883 You talk about respect and then you take it away. 48:20.883 --> 48:22.083 Apology letter? 48:22.723 --> 48:25.963 What is the apology for? 48:26.563 --> 48:27.723 For telling the truth? 48:28.283 --> 48:31.243 Or for holding the mirror to this ill-mannered student? 48:31.443 --> 48:34.483 Stop being so stubborn, Gopal. 48:34.603 --> 48:37.003 We're in the age of social media. 48:38.003 --> 48:40.723 Here the truth is not what is actually true. 48:41.083 --> 48:44.123 Truth is what can be seen. 48:44.643 --> 48:46.643 That is how media's film works. 48:47.243 --> 48:48.643 And right now... 48:49.243 --> 48:53.243 You are looking like a villain in this film. 48:58.563 --> 49:01.803 Maybe I'm the villain in your film. 49:03.883 --> 49:05.563 But did you know? 49:06.243 --> 49:12.403 I was the one who suggested the apology letter. 49:13.843 --> 49:16.963 You'll be retiring in two years. 49:17.483 --> 49:20.963 We're talking about your pension, Gopal. 49:21.083 --> 49:22.563 Think about it. 49:25.803 --> 49:27.123 Thank you for your concern. 49:29.003 --> 49:31.563 You're not the villain in my film. 49:36.683 --> 49:38.003 Then what am I? 49:39.403 --> 49:40.843 Please tell me. 49:43.283 --> 49:47.003 What do you think of me? 49:51.083 --> 49:53.723 I don't think about you at all. 49:56.603 --> 49:59.923 Mr. Nadkarni, we have to protect our funding. 50:00.403 --> 50:02.083 Don't make me force my hand. 50:03.003 --> 50:04.203 Please sign the letter. 50:04.323 --> 50:05.323 Come on. 50:12.803 --> 50:15.563 This apology letter reminded me of something else. 50:15.923 --> 50:20.162 Then you can become a "Maafiveer", apologist-hero, like your own hero. 50:20.163 --> 50:23.003 The apology letter you're talking about... 50:23.483 --> 50:25.963 Please do some research first. 50:26.483 --> 50:27.483 You'll understand. 50:29.003 --> 50:33.003 There's a reason why a person is hailed a hero. 50:35.603 --> 50:37.883 As far as signing goes... 50:39.603 --> 50:40.883 Let me tell you a story. 50:41.283 --> 50:45.403 When it was time to pass the bar exam, to become a lawyer... 50:45.803 --> 50:48.643 the British had given him a paper in London... 50:49.003 --> 50:52.723 to write he'd never say anything against the British. 50:53.283 --> 50:55.283 Only then would he be allowed to pass the bar. 50:55.683 --> 50:56.923 They wanted him to sign it. 50:57.163 --> 50:58.163 Or else... 51:01.363 --> 51:05.203 Guess what your "maafiveer" and my hero had said. 51:11.603 --> 51:12.603 This. 51:12.963 --> 51:14.123 That's what he did. 51:43.643 --> 51:44.723 I'll make some tea. 51:45.483 --> 51:46.483 Prabha. 51:46.683 --> 51:47.683 Please sit. 51:51.923 --> 51:53.803 Oh what fun! 51:55.083 --> 51:57.483 The professors in our university. 51:58.843 --> 52:00.523 They're very secular. 52:02.163 --> 52:05.523 But they were focussed on violence today. 52:07.723 --> 52:10.563 So, instead of them, I invoked Gandhi today. 52:12.003 --> 52:12.963 What? 52:13.323 --> 52:15.683 Non-cooperation movement. 52:16.163 --> 52:18.763 They asked me to give up on my principles. 52:19.923 --> 52:20.923 So, I gave it to them. 52:22.123 --> 52:23.323 Resignation letter. 52:31.363 --> 52:34.203 Freshen up. I'll get some tea for you. 52:37.923 --> 52:38.923 Prabha. 52:42.483 --> 52:45.923 I'll help you around the house from tomorrow. 52:50.283 --> 52:53.963 Will he answer all of his student's questions? 52:54.123 --> 52:58.563 Forget about answers, the teacher has run off. 52:58.843 --> 53:00.962 He has tendered his resignation. Why? 53:00.963 --> 53:04.923 If I were in Vicky's place, I'd slapped Nadkarni back. 53:05.203 --> 53:08.162 We don't want his resignation. We want a public apology. 53:08.163 --> 53:11.922 I want to ask what has the RSS ever done. 53:11.923 --> 53:15.723 We can't find you anywhere in the history books. 53:15.883 --> 53:18.363 Let me ask you a simple question. 53:18.683 --> 53:20.683 During the struggle for independence... 53:20.803 --> 53:23.242 When the entire country was in agony... 53:23.243 --> 53:25.082 When so many people were sent to jail... 53:25.083 --> 53:27.962 There was bloodbath everywhere... 53:27.963 --> 53:29.882 Where was the RSS? 53:29.883 --> 53:31.563 Where were you hiding? 53:31.683 --> 53:33.362 In some room in Nagpur? 53:33.363 --> 53:34.802 We weren't hiding. We were active. 53:34.803 --> 53:36.202 For you, struggle means 53:36.203 --> 53:39.163 either going to jail or featuring in newspapers. 53:39.563 --> 53:41.402 There are different levels of struggle. 53:41.403 --> 53:43.122 In the mind, through speech and through actions. 53:43.123 --> 53:44.002 Are you aware? 53:44.003 --> 53:45.283 That's your way of thinking. 53:45.483 --> 53:47.842 You are confusing us with semantics. 53:47.843 --> 53:49.363 You are confused as it is. 53:49.643 --> 53:51.603 We're trying to explain things to you. 53:52.403 --> 53:54.083 Dr. Keshav Hedgewar. 53:54.283 --> 53:57.003 He is respectfully referred to as Doctor saab. 53:57.763 --> 53:59.723 Really sorry about this. 54:01.923 --> 54:05.203 My two P's, professionalism and passion. 54:05.923 --> 54:07.163 I always get mixed up in these. 54:08.843 --> 54:10.283 There's a third P. 54:10.963 --> 54:12.163 Psychosis. 54:13.563 --> 54:15.003 Don't mix that too. 54:18.003 --> 54:20.443 I am crazy. Guilty as charged. 54:21.003 --> 54:23.563 But I can't help myself when it comes to the truth. 54:24.003 --> 54:25.883 I have learnt it from you, sir. 54:26.403 --> 54:27.883 Always stand with the truth. 54:28.323 --> 54:31.003 I haven't always agreed with you. And I won't. 54:31.443 --> 54:33.003 Sir, you're my professor too. 54:33.923 --> 54:35.123 You've been my teacher. 54:36.483 --> 54:39.843 Of course, I haven't agreed on everything you've said and I won't. 54:42.403 --> 54:45.083 Please try to understand why I'm doing this. 54:49.963 --> 54:50.963 Sir... 54:51.883 --> 54:54.123 Every time you spoke about the country... 54:55.803 --> 54:57.363 Everything you said... 54:59.123 --> 55:00.003 It would touch us. 55:00.123 --> 55:01.723 I'd always thought... 55:02.283 --> 55:05.403 These thoughts should be shared with the nation and the youth. 55:05.723 --> 55:06.723 Ma'am. 55:08.763 --> 55:09.803 I think this is... 55:11.363 --> 55:12.923 the right time for sir to... 55:37.203 --> 55:39.403 The national debate has been scheduled for Monday. 55:39.803 --> 55:43.362 The Sangh doesn't have to justify itself to anyone. 55:43.363 --> 55:44.403 Aditya. 55:44.723 --> 55:46.763 Right, sir. I understand and I... 55:47.643 --> 55:49.162 But try to see it from my perspective. 55:49.163 --> 55:51.123 It's his job to make empty noises. 55:52.203 --> 55:53.203 Not mine. 55:53.523 --> 55:55.443 He wants to create a scene, let him. 55:55.803 --> 55:57.922 I'm not part of his circus. 55:57.923 --> 55:59.323 But you are his teacher. 56:05.723 --> 56:07.363 He considers you his guru. 56:08.763 --> 56:11.443 And you treat him like a son. 56:15.003 --> 56:16.723 So, he's creating a scene. 56:17.283 --> 56:20.563 Who's responsible for bringing him back to the class? 56:24.963 --> 56:26.883 (indistinct chatter) 56:53.643 --> 56:55.643 Hello, Mr. Vicky. 56:59.003 --> 57:00.003 Yes? 57:00.403 --> 57:01.483 I am Sohrab. 57:02.683 --> 57:04.483 Your well-wisher has sent me. 57:04.763 --> 57:06.923 I don't need any well-wisher. 57:10.923 --> 57:13.243 A lion hunts alone. 57:15.443 --> 57:17.643 But when there's a forest fire... 57:18.803 --> 57:20.963 even the lion burns. 57:21.963 --> 57:25.243 I'm only here to make sure 57:26.803 --> 57:28.683 the fire doesn't spread to your home. 57:34.603 --> 57:35.963 This is my fight. 57:37.643 --> 57:39.563 And I'm not a sell-out. Got it? 57:40.163 --> 57:41.603 That's what we want too. 57:42.443 --> 57:43.523 Don't sell out. 57:44.883 --> 57:46.203 Thank you for your visit. 57:58.123 --> 58:00.003 In our line of work 58:00.523 --> 58:02.283 very few people say thank you. 58:04.603 --> 58:07.363 Whether you fight with or without our help... 58:07.963 --> 58:11.123 As long as the result is victory... 58:11.723 --> 58:12.723 I'm cool. 58:14.523 --> 58:15.883 Please remember one thing. 58:17.363 --> 58:20.122 My friends never lose. 58:20.123 --> 58:21.163 Got it? 58:48.003 --> 58:49.843 Why are you trying to be a hero? 58:55.283 --> 58:57.243 Can't you see what's going on? 59:01.163 --> 59:02.963 Vicky, this is not a debate. 59:03.323 --> 59:04.723 It's a riot. 59:06.963 --> 59:09.003 People have come to your home. 59:10.843 --> 59:11.843 Who was that man? 59:12.283 --> 59:13.563 What did he want? 59:15.443 --> 59:17.323 Saara, if I keep quiet too 59:17.883 --> 59:20.083 there'd be no difference between them and me. 59:20.763 --> 59:23.083 Somebody has to cast the first stone. 59:24.163 --> 59:25.523 But why you, Vicky? 59:26.123 --> 59:28.923 If not me, then who? 59:30.243 --> 59:31.403 Then who, Saara? 59:40.803 --> 59:45.962 The digital warriors on both sides are prepared for the battle on Monday. 59:45.963 --> 59:48.882 This battle is not confined within the college campus anymore. 59:48.883 --> 59:50.402 It has become the spirit of the internet 59:50.403 --> 59:52.083 and a fight for identity. 59:52.283 --> 59:53.643 Is this a fair debate? 59:53.763 --> 59:57.483 Or has it turned into a televised media trial of a young man's career? 59:57.603 --> 01:00:01.763 It's not just going to be a debate but a live chargesheet. 01:00:02.003 --> 01:00:05.563 Will Nadkarni be able to face these pointed questions? 01:00:07.683 --> 01:00:11.403 - Down with Nadkarni! - Down with Nadkarni! 01:00:25.483 --> 01:00:27.003 They threw ink at you! 01:00:29.323 --> 01:00:32.123 Prabha, history as witness... 01:00:32.643 --> 01:00:35.963 whenever anyone tries to soil the saffron 01:00:36.803 --> 01:00:39.363 history is written with the same ink. 01:00:41.483 --> 01:00:44.003 Let there be 500 questions. 01:00:44.723 --> 01:00:49.003 I will answer every last one of them. 01:00:58.203 --> 01:01:00.562 We're looking at a student-teacher contract 01:01:00.563 --> 01:01:03.403 that has been shredded by a single physical blow. 01:01:03.603 --> 01:01:07.083 Vicky Hegde has effectively turned his research into a weapon 01:01:07.203 --> 01:01:09.843 against the very system that has tried to silence him. 01:01:10.283 --> 01:01:12.763 He didn't just target an organisation. 01:01:12.883 --> 01:01:14.363 He targeted a mindset... 01:01:14.963 --> 01:01:17.483 This boy isn't from Mumbai, 01:01:17.723 --> 01:01:19.003 I've seen him. 01:01:19.363 --> 01:01:21.203 Lay off the drugs. 01:01:21.323 --> 01:01:23.843 He is a student leader from Mumbai. 01:01:24.203 --> 01:01:25.363 Wait, let me show you. 01:01:25.763 --> 01:01:29.003 ...will no longer be confined to the classroom or the library. 01:01:29.323 --> 01:01:31.883 Bharat Express has announced a special segment. 01:01:32.003 --> 01:01:33.883 Monday Battle Royale: Guru versus student. 01:01:34.643 --> 01:01:37.243 A very important day. A very important debate. 01:01:37.363 --> 01:01:39.922 With all eyes on Vicky and Prof. Nadkarni. 01:01:39.923 --> 01:01:43.283 (students protesting) 01:01:53.603 --> 01:01:55.602 There's only one question on everyone's mind. 01:01:55.603 --> 01:01:58.162 When will this extraordinary debate start? 01:01:58.163 --> 01:02:01.362 Who will win this debate? The student or the teacher? 01:02:01.363 --> 01:02:03.162 Questions will be asked with an open mind. 01:02:03.163 --> 01:02:06.443 Will Prof. Nadkarni be able to answer with the same openness? 01:02:06.683 --> 01:02:08.002 What will happen here today? 01:02:08.003 --> 01:02:11.283 Will Prof. Nadkarni be able to answer Vicky's questions? 01:02:11.403 --> 01:02:15.403 Everyone is waiting eagerly for Prof. Nadkarni and Vicky. 01:02:15.603 --> 01:02:18.403 There's heavy police posting here. 01:02:23.723 --> 01:02:26.003 (song playing) 01:03:19.403 --> 01:03:20.403 Where is he? 01:03:21.203 --> 01:03:22.202 Where is Nadkarni? 01:03:22.203 --> 01:03:23.802 Kavya, the professor is not answering his phone. 01:03:23.803 --> 01:03:25.163 I think he's ghosting us. 01:03:25.563 --> 01:03:27.883 The show begins in 10 minutes. 01:03:28.283 --> 01:03:31.323 If he is not here by then what will we telecast? 01:03:31.443 --> 01:03:32.323 An empty screen? 01:03:33.243 --> 01:03:35.243 The sponsors will chop my head off. 01:03:37.003 --> 01:03:38.963 Send a camera team to his house. 01:03:39.403 --> 01:03:41.723 Break the door if you have to. Go! 01:03:42.483 --> 01:03:44.563 Go right now! 01:04:35.003 --> 01:04:37.923 The class will begin now because the professor is here. 01:04:38.763 --> 01:04:39.763 Let's go. 01:04:46.203 --> 01:04:47.203 Everybody ready? 01:04:48.323 --> 01:04:50.163 We go live in... 01:04:51.363 --> 01:04:52.363 Three. 01:04:52.803 --> 01:04:53.803 Two. 01:04:54.403 --> 01:04:55.403 Go. 01:04:56.283 --> 01:04:57.283 And roll! 01:04:57.803 --> 01:04:59.763 Either the W's of journalism. 01:05:00.243 --> 01:05:02.123 Or the Night of Doom. 01:05:02.363 --> 01:05:04.122 Ministers in Parliament. 01:05:04.123 --> 01:05:06.602 Or the questions of our favourite Vicky. 01:05:06.603 --> 01:05:08.242 They share one thing in common. 01:05:08.243 --> 01:05:10.442 That's five questions. 01:05:10.443 --> 01:05:12.643 And the five questions of Judgement Day are... 01:05:12.923 --> 01:05:15.243 How did they live their life on earth? 01:05:16.683 --> 01:05:18.643 How did they utilise their youth? 01:05:20.083 --> 01:05:22.163 How did they earn their wealth? 01:05:23.283 --> 01:05:25.283 How did they spend their wealth? 01:05:25.803 --> 01:05:28.403 And what did they do with their knowledge? 01:05:34.283 --> 01:05:35.763 Just like this, five questions... 01:05:36.123 --> 01:05:40.163 were asked by our govt. to the opposition in May, 2024. 01:05:40.323 --> 01:05:41.323 First question. 01:05:41.923 --> 01:05:42.643 Triple Talaq. 01:05:44.283 --> 01:05:45.283 Second question. 01:05:45.603 --> 01:05:47.843 UCC: Uniform Civil Code. 01:05:48.123 --> 01:05:49.802 Third Question. Surgical strikes. 01:05:49.803 --> 01:05:51.643 Fourth question. Ram Mandir. 01:05:52.163 --> 01:05:53.083 Fifth question. 01:05:53.323 --> 01:05:55.203 Article 370. 01:05:56.083 --> 01:05:58.403 This is how questions will be asked here today. 01:05:59.003 --> 01:06:01.602 Most importantly, questions will be asked to 01:06:01.603 --> 01:06:05.123 Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh that's RSS. 01:06:08.563 --> 01:06:11.083 We all know that the Sangh has a few principles. 01:06:11.323 --> 01:06:14.322 One of which is not participating in debates. 01:06:14.323 --> 01:06:15.843 And we totally respect that. 01:06:16.003 --> 01:06:18.082 But the situation is a little different here. 01:06:18.083 --> 01:06:19.403 As things transpired... 01:06:19.603 --> 01:06:26.123 The questions were directed to Vicky's thesis guide and mentor 01:06:26.323 --> 01:06:29.683 Dr. Prof. Gopal Nadkarni. 01:06:31.683 --> 01:06:35.403 There's something very interesting happening here. 01:06:36.003 --> 01:06:40.723 If it were a five-day cricket match, today would have been the third day. 01:06:41.003 --> 01:06:44.203 And it were a one-day match, then I would have said... 01:06:44.403 --> 01:06:47.603 Welcome to the live telecast of second innings. 01:06:48.003 --> 01:06:49.683 What happens before the second innings? 01:06:51.203 --> 01:06:52.763 You know what happens. 01:06:53.163 --> 01:06:55.802 Here are the highlights from the first innings. 01:06:55.803 --> 01:06:56.603 Have a look. 01:07:03.883 --> 01:07:06.282 So, here's my question number one. 01:07:06.283 --> 01:07:10.363 The Sangh that Prof. Nadkarni is such a huge fan of... 01:07:10.763 --> 01:07:12.483 Their claim to fame is... 01:07:12.683 --> 01:07:15.163 that they've been banned thrice. 01:07:15.963 --> 01:07:18.923 In 1948, after Gandhi's assassination. 01:07:19.683 --> 01:07:22.723 If the organisation that was banned by the Indian government 01:07:24.083 --> 01:07:27.683 is not anti-national, then what is it? 01:07:28.283 --> 01:07:30.843 We didn't assassinate Gandhi. 01:07:31.243 --> 01:07:33.283 July, 1949. 01:07:33.843 --> 01:07:35.763 The ban was lifted. 01:07:36.323 --> 01:07:39.243 Unconditionally... Without any strings. 01:07:39.403 --> 01:07:40.922 Sir, this is my second question. 01:07:40.923 --> 01:07:42.643 What about 1975? 01:07:43.003 --> 01:07:43.923 Emergency? 01:07:44.283 --> 01:07:47.003 When the entire opposition was in jail... 01:07:47.403 --> 01:07:50.883 Your leaders were writing letters to Indira Gandhi. 01:07:51.003 --> 01:07:52.163 That was strategy. 01:07:52.603 --> 01:07:56.283 A general's duty is not just to fight. 01:07:56.683 --> 01:08:00.203 It is also to protect his soldiers. 01:08:01.163 --> 01:08:02.483 BHARAT EXPRESS 01:08:03.683 --> 01:08:05.123 Our constitution 01:08:05.843 --> 01:08:08.643 believes in free speech. 01:08:09.163 --> 01:08:12.283 If asking questions is free speech 01:08:12.643 --> 01:08:14.603 then answering them is also free speech. 01:08:19.643 --> 01:08:25.883 I'd like to tell the audience that both Vicky and Prof. Nadkarni 01:08:26.003 --> 01:08:29.403 have refused to a judge's panel or any kind of polling. 01:08:30.603 --> 01:08:33.083 I'd like to know why. 01:08:33.443 --> 01:08:36.443 I've asked him questions for which he doesn't have an answer. 01:08:37.443 --> 01:08:38.603 That's the end of the story. 01:08:38.763 --> 01:08:43.563 Then how would you decide whether you agree with his answers? 01:08:45.163 --> 01:08:46.883 Sir, do you want to take this? 01:08:52.323 --> 01:08:54.403 In "the Mahabharata", King Drupad... 01:08:55.123 --> 01:08:56.443 Drupad? 01:08:58.723 --> 01:08:59.723 Guys... 01:09:01.323 --> 01:09:02.603 That's Draupadi's dad. 01:09:07.203 --> 01:09:10.163 Drupad, Draupadi's father... 01:09:11.003 --> 01:09:12.883 wanted to slay Dronacharya. 01:09:13.163 --> 01:09:16.883 He raised his son, Dhrishtadyumna, to defeat Drona. 01:09:17.123 --> 01:09:19.003 He was like our very own Vicky. 01:09:20.243 --> 01:09:23.843 He knew it would be no easy task. 01:09:24.643 --> 01:09:27.243 He went to Drona and said... 01:09:27.683 --> 01:09:29.363 "Please take me in as your disciple 01:09:29.963 --> 01:09:31.363 so that I can slay you." 01:09:33.003 --> 01:09:35.203 Dronacharya, even after knowing this... 01:09:37.003 --> 01:09:38.403 ... taught him everything. 01:09:38.843 --> 01:09:41.843 That's a teacher's responsibility. 01:09:42.603 --> 01:09:46.083 We trust our students. 01:09:46.483 --> 01:09:48.643 Even when they try to destroy us. 01:09:49.923 --> 01:09:51.483 Vicky has been my student. 01:09:52.003 --> 01:09:56.563 Although he's used my teachings against me. 01:09:56.803 --> 01:09:59.363 But I still believe 01:10:00.443 --> 01:10:02.323 if I give him the correct answers 01:10:03.203 --> 01:10:05.563 he'll accept them in all honesty. 01:10:07.843 --> 01:10:09.723 It was not only your request. 01:10:10.643 --> 01:10:14.002 But the fact that there's still some truth left in Vicky 01:10:14.003 --> 01:10:15.563 is what brought me here. 01:10:15.843 --> 01:10:16.603 Sir! 01:10:17.763 --> 01:10:25.003 When this "Dhrist-guy" fought Drona, who won? 01:10:28.603 --> 01:10:30.283 You want to take that, Mr. Vicky? 01:10:33.083 --> 01:10:36.723 Drona dropped his weapon believing in a lie 01:10:36.923 --> 01:10:39.323 and started meditating on the battlefield. 01:10:39.763 --> 01:10:46.483 That's when Dhrishtadyumna beheaded his teacher, Dronacharya. 01:10:50.803 --> 01:10:51.803 Aditya. 01:10:52.163 --> 01:10:53.203 Start with the questions... 01:10:53.603 --> 01:10:55.682 ...before these two take out their swords. 01:10:55.683 --> 01:10:57.202 Ask the questions. Fast! 01:10:57.203 --> 01:10:59.443 In this epic battle between truth and lies 01:10:59.563 --> 01:11:02.923 Vicky will now ask his third, fourth and final question. 01:11:04.323 --> 01:11:05.323 Professor... 01:11:05.803 --> 01:11:10.123 Here's my third question for your Sangh, your RSS. 01:11:33.563 --> 01:11:35.083 Babri Masjid! 01:11:37.363 --> 01:11:40.643 December, 1992. 01:11:41.923 --> 01:11:43.603 I want to ask all of you a question. 01:11:43.763 --> 01:11:48.843 Can anyone tell me who demolished Babri? 01:12:06.563 --> 01:12:07.243 You? 01:12:12.443 --> 01:12:16.883 You've been an active volunteer of the RSS. 01:12:19.083 --> 01:12:24.323 Was the destruction of the Babri Masjid a pre-planned conspiracy? 01:12:26.603 --> 01:12:29.163 Please answer and let's keep it simple. 01:12:30.683 --> 01:12:33.283 Just give us a yes or a no. 01:12:41.923 --> 01:12:42.963 Speak up, professor. 01:12:47.603 --> 01:12:51.323 If the RSS is a peaceful, charitable organisation 01:12:51.483 --> 01:12:54.963 then why did its members climb the dome? 01:13:03.083 --> 01:13:04.483 Why were the walls broken? 01:13:06.083 --> 01:13:07.243 Please tell us, professor. 01:13:10.203 --> 01:13:13.163 I'll ask you the most important question. 01:13:13.323 --> 01:13:19.282 Do you, in any way, justify the actions of the RSS committed on the day 01:13:19.283 --> 01:13:21.362 of the demolition of the Babri Masjid? 01:13:21.363 --> 01:13:23.323 Just say yes or no! 01:13:33.483 --> 01:13:37.963 I don't support any of the violent acts of that day, Vicky. 01:13:41.603 --> 01:13:42.603 Great! 01:13:43.323 --> 01:13:44.323 Then say it. 01:13:45.003 --> 01:13:48.003 Admit it that the RSS committed a crime. 01:13:48.963 --> 01:13:52.762 That the RSS demolished Babri Masjid and the RSS is violent. 01:13:52.763 --> 01:13:53.843 Just say it! 01:13:54.323 --> 01:13:55.323 Just say it! 01:14:03.483 --> 01:14:06.003 The RSS did not demolish any mosque. 01:14:08.163 --> 01:14:11.203 There were protests in front of Babri's structure. 01:14:13.683 --> 01:14:16.163 But the structure didn't break... 01:14:17.363 --> 01:14:19.602 when kar sevaks touched it. 01:14:19.603 --> 01:14:21.243 It broke when 01:14:21.843 --> 01:14:25.403 this nation's majority's trust was broken. 01:14:31.643 --> 01:14:34.083 Aditya, please pull up the slide. 01:14:34.203 --> 01:14:35.203 Yes, sir. 01:14:35.603 --> 01:14:36.843 Play the slide. 01:14:47.643 --> 01:14:48.643 Take a look. 01:14:52.723 --> 01:14:54.003 This section in the middle. 01:15:03.563 --> 01:15:06.363 According to British records, it's called 'Chhathi'. 01:15:08.603 --> 01:15:10.003 Birthplace. 01:15:11.803 --> 01:15:15.803 We didn't get permission to enter our God's house. 01:15:16.283 --> 01:15:18.003 What did our ancestors do? 01:15:18.683 --> 01:15:22.683 They prayed outside on this "Ram Chabutra". 01:15:27.003 --> 01:15:29.403 Come rain or sunshine... 01:15:30.083 --> 01:15:32.283 They waited for centuries. 01:15:32.883 --> 01:15:36.683 Staring at that wall. 01:15:37.963 --> 01:15:39.883 Hoping that one day they'll be allowed inside. 01:15:48.003 --> 01:15:50.883 They followed the law. 01:15:53.323 --> 01:15:54.763 They waited patiently. 01:15:55.563 --> 01:15:59.923 You're mourning the loss of a 500-year-old building. 01:16:01.443 --> 01:16:02.843 What about our faith... 01:16:04.243 --> 01:16:08.083 That had been waiting forever for its turn? 01:16:09.643 --> 01:16:15.083 When the legal system fails and days become years 01:16:15.443 --> 01:16:18.323 then patience runs out. 01:16:22.363 --> 01:16:24.683 And when patience runs out 01:16:25.363 --> 01:16:28.803 then neither lives are spared nor structures. 01:16:28.963 --> 01:16:30.443 What structure? 01:16:30.563 --> 01:16:32.163 Why aren't you calling it the Babri Masjid? 01:16:35.083 --> 01:16:36.243 Are you scared? 01:16:36.403 --> 01:16:37.723 Are you ashamed? 01:16:37.923 --> 01:16:41.283 Or was it your great RSS's holy war? 01:16:49.123 --> 01:16:52.123 I am not calling it a mosque... 01:16:53.363 --> 01:16:56.243 Because there are rules in Islam about it. 01:16:58.363 --> 01:17:03.083 And Babri does not follow them. 01:17:04.843 --> 01:17:09.563 "Sahih al-Bukhari " and "Sahih Muslim" both mention this. 01:17:09.683 --> 01:17:13.083 Don't build mosques on graves. It's forbidden. 01:17:14.603 --> 01:17:16.283 According to "fiqh" 01:17:16.443 --> 01:17:19.883 mosques are not to be built on usurped land. 01:17:20.083 --> 01:17:26.243 It states clearly in Ibn Qudama's "Al-Mughni ". 01:17:27.643 --> 01:17:28.883 Is that enough? 01:17:29.483 --> 01:17:34.483 Or do you want me to give you page numbers like Mr. Naik? 01:17:40.683 --> 01:17:43.122 This is emotional manipulation. Where are the facts? 01:17:43.123 --> 01:17:44.083 He presented the facts. 01:17:44.283 --> 01:17:45.762 He showed the map. Talked about the history. 01:17:45.763 --> 01:17:46.763 But the mosque was destroyed. 01:17:46.963 --> 01:17:48.763 What about the belief that was broken? 01:17:49.123 --> 01:17:53.922 So, you're justifying the RSS's actions, right? 01:17:53.923 --> 01:17:59.243 If it is built on usurped land, then the mosque is not valid, Vicky. 01:17:59.563 --> 01:18:03.683 It was built on encroached land. 01:18:04.123 --> 01:18:05.443 Taken land. 01:18:05.843 --> 01:18:07.603 A land which others believe 01:18:08.323 --> 01:18:10.203 is disputed land. 01:18:11.603 --> 01:18:13.762 Even according to Shariat law 01:18:13.763 --> 01:18:17.083 such a building is never considered a mosque. 01:18:17.883 --> 01:18:20.683 It can only be called a structure. 01:18:23.403 --> 01:18:25.843 India's Supreme Court... 01:18:27.283 --> 01:18:30.243 The highest legal institution of the country... 01:18:31.803 --> 01:18:36.123 ...has acknowledged that remnants of a temple were found underneath. 01:18:37.443 --> 01:18:39.883 The Archaeological Survey has shown 01:18:40.083 --> 01:18:44.883 temple pillars, "kalash", "amalkas" 01:18:45.163 --> 01:18:47.163 and shrine platform. 01:18:47.603 --> 01:18:49.363 In 1976 01:18:49.683 --> 01:18:54.163 KK Muhammad had proved there was a temple under Babri. 01:18:55.723 --> 01:18:58.243 How can I call it a mosque? 01:18:59.363 --> 01:19:06.243 So, you're saying all this to justify yourself, right? 01:19:06.443 --> 01:19:09.243 I believe in the soil of this country. 01:19:11.003 --> 01:19:13.003 I believe in the wise sages... 01:19:13.803 --> 01:19:15.843 Doesn't matter whether they're Hindu or Muslim... 01:19:16.203 --> 01:19:20.803 The ones who preach unity and not politics. 01:19:21.083 --> 01:19:24.483 This is my India. 01:19:25.363 --> 01:19:32.563 And I'll always justify the believers of this holy land. 01:19:34.163 --> 01:19:37.203 You say the RSS demolished a mosque. 01:19:37.683 --> 01:19:39.003 I am saying... 01:19:39.443 --> 01:19:42.603 India's faith was destroyed first. 01:19:44.083 --> 01:19:48.803 The Sangh was just the last heartbeat of centuries old ache. 01:19:49.123 --> 01:19:55.323 In the last 100 years, the Sangh has only been associated with one temple. 01:19:55.923 --> 01:19:58.443 Ramjanmabhoomi, birthplace of Ram. 01:20:02.123 --> 01:20:04.803 And Vicky, there are two more sites. 01:20:05.963 --> 01:20:08.483 Great if we get them cordially. 01:20:08.963 --> 01:20:13.243 But if we have to fight, we are ready. 01:20:14.243 --> 01:20:17.883 This is a matter of the nation's belief. 01:20:19.163 --> 01:20:20.683 Did you get it, Vicky? 01:20:21.803 --> 01:20:23.883 Say yes or no! 01:20:41.843 --> 01:20:45.323 Friends, at this point we'll take a break. 01:20:45.443 --> 01:20:48.163 Please come back for more questions on the other side. 01:21:01.363 --> 01:21:02.403 BHARAT EXPRESS 01:21:04.243 --> 01:21:06.563 VICKY'S QUESTION ON RAM JANMABHOOMI GETS FACTS FROM NADKARNI 01:21:06.683 --> 01:21:08.562 What comes next in this debate? 01:21:08.563 --> 01:21:10.642 The tension keeps rising with every heartbeat. 01:21:10.643 --> 01:21:12.963 I've never seen anything quite like this before. 01:21:13.243 --> 01:21:14.923 (students protesting) 01:21:16.363 --> 01:21:17.722 The situation has taken a turn. 01:21:17.723 --> 01:21:20.403 The prof's answers has divided the crowd in two. 01:21:20.683 --> 01:21:22.002 The crowd is growing. 01:21:22.003 --> 01:21:24.002 The police barricade is about to break. 01:21:24.003 --> 01:21:27.603 We'll have to wait to see how the police handle the situation. 01:21:34.283 --> 01:21:38.123 Now, let's get to your biggest defense. 01:21:39.083 --> 01:21:40.403 Social work. 01:21:44.203 --> 01:21:45.723 Ladies and gentlemen. 01:21:46.403 --> 01:21:51.123 The Sangh proclaims to be the world's largest voluntary organisation. 01:21:51.483 --> 01:21:53.003 Selfless service. 01:21:53.683 --> 01:21:55.563 Nation building. 01:21:55.883 --> 01:21:59.363 Sounds great, doesn't it? 01:22:01.563 --> 01:22:02.643 But professor... 01:22:03.963 --> 01:22:06.883 There's a loophole in your greatness. 01:22:08.283 --> 01:22:11.843 There's no documentation of your great work. 01:22:12.123 --> 01:22:13.643 Isn't that strange? 01:22:17.883 --> 01:22:21.163 You claim to be running the country. 01:22:28.203 --> 01:22:30.363 It is not a selfless service mission. 01:22:31.203 --> 01:22:34.643 It's a convenient mask. A facade. 01:22:34.963 --> 01:22:40.163 For you and your Sangh to hide behind. 01:22:49.483 --> 01:22:53.083 This is known as social service. 01:22:55.363 --> 01:22:56.843 Bravo! 01:22:58.243 --> 01:23:00.843 Prof, may I come closer to you? 01:23:01.243 --> 01:23:02.243 Please. 01:23:03.683 --> 01:23:04.683 One second. 01:23:14.283 --> 01:23:16.963 And this is the RSS's contribution. 01:23:17.643 --> 01:23:18.683 Zero! 01:23:22.003 --> 01:23:25.803 Are you fans of Aryabhatta? 01:23:26.003 --> 01:23:29.443 Always stuck on zero. 01:23:30.763 --> 01:23:31.763 That's all for now. 01:23:33.723 --> 01:23:35.003 Brilliant! 01:23:35.643 --> 01:23:38.763 That would leave a mark. 01:23:39.443 --> 01:23:41.083 He's right. 01:23:42.083 --> 01:23:44.483 Anyone can build castles in the air. 01:23:44.963 --> 01:23:46.243 Where's the proof? 01:23:47.203 --> 01:23:52.323 You're looking at social work through corporate lenses. 01:23:54.603 --> 01:23:56.363 There you need to show proof of work. 01:23:58.603 --> 01:24:00.243 We offer sacrifices. 01:24:02.003 --> 01:24:05.083 We don't have a centralised database. 01:24:06.723 --> 01:24:09.763 Because we're swayamsevaks, volunteers. 01:24:10.883 --> 01:24:12.483 Very convenient excuse, sir. 01:24:13.963 --> 01:24:17.163 Burden of proof is your responsibility. 01:24:17.843 --> 01:24:20.483 Burden of accountability belongs to the RSS. 01:24:20.683 --> 01:24:23.563 What does responsibility mean? 01:24:23.963 --> 01:24:27.323 Break the word down. 01:24:28.443 --> 01:24:33.003 Responsibility is response and ability. 01:24:33.203 --> 01:24:34.883 The ability to respond. 01:24:36.883 --> 01:24:38.563 In the hour of need 01:24:38.723 --> 01:24:42.163 the first respondent is not a guy in black suit. 01:24:42.683 --> 01:24:45.243 Nor in white kurta. 01:24:45.803 --> 01:24:48.002 They wear khaki pants. 01:24:48.003 --> 01:24:50.923 You'd have known if you travelled across the country. 01:24:51.243 --> 01:24:53.803 Accountability? For what? 01:24:56.643 --> 01:24:57.723 For the cameras? 01:24:58.803 --> 01:25:00.243 Tell me something, Vicky. 01:25:00.883 --> 01:25:03.923 When someone is drowning in a flood... 01:25:05.283 --> 01:25:07.323 Or someone is dying of hunger... 01:25:07.603 --> 01:25:11.483 Instead of helping him should we take a selfie first? 01:25:14.083 --> 01:25:16.723 Should we make a show of his helplessness 01:25:16.883 --> 01:25:21.003 so that it can trend on social media? 01:25:22.683 --> 01:25:27.843 This is your selfie culture not the Sangh's. 01:25:31.163 --> 01:25:32.163 Wow! 01:25:32.723 --> 01:25:34.323 That's amazing, professor! 01:25:34.803 --> 01:25:38.763 You should have been a politician or an actor. 01:25:39.203 --> 01:25:40.643 Why did you become a professor? 01:25:41.163 --> 01:25:45.283 Thing is your big words won't work anymore. 01:25:46.923 --> 01:25:49.843 You did exactly what the Sangh had done. 01:25:51.083 --> 01:25:53.803 Lots of big words but zero proof. 01:25:57.003 --> 01:25:59.603 Fine. You don't have proof. 01:26:00.643 --> 01:26:04.883 But I have a video that I would like to show you. 01:26:06.923 --> 01:26:09.003 Could you please play the tsunami video for us? 01:26:11.283 --> 01:26:12.963 Play the video. 01:26:31.843 --> 01:26:32.843 Stop! 01:26:34.843 --> 01:26:38.443 After the natural disaster, the local organisation is there. 01:26:38.883 --> 01:26:40.723 They've reached there first. 01:26:40.923 --> 01:26:42.723 And they're already helping the locals. 01:26:43.643 --> 01:26:48.123 You'd reached much later with your flag. Right? 01:26:50.083 --> 01:26:53.203 So many people lost their lives that day. 01:26:54.003 --> 01:26:56.323 Old people as well as children. 01:26:58.283 --> 01:27:03.483 Only someone who's lost their child would understand the pain. 01:27:17.843 --> 01:27:20.002 - Yes? - I'm Prashant. Nadkarni... 01:27:20.003 --> 01:27:23.323 - Sorry, it's not that kind of show. - Ma'am, please... 01:27:23.443 --> 01:27:24.523 No callers allowed. 01:27:24.963 --> 01:27:27.002 I'm sorry. No, no. I'm sorry. 01:27:27.003 --> 01:27:27.922 Patch the call. 01:27:27.923 --> 01:27:30.922 Ma'am, it's very important. Please let me speak to him. 01:27:30.923 --> 01:27:32.203 - Ma'am, please. - Okay. 01:27:32.403 --> 01:27:33.403 Connecting. 01:27:35.203 --> 01:27:36.203 Okay, Prashant. 01:27:36.803 --> 01:27:38.443 You're live. Please speak. 01:27:38.643 --> 01:27:41.283 Hello, I'm Prashant. 01:27:41.683 --> 01:27:43.683 I want to say something to Vicky. 01:27:44.483 --> 01:27:48.323 Vicky, the person you're discussing losing a child with 01:27:48.803 --> 01:27:52.883 had himself lost his child during the Mumbai floods. 01:27:58.963 --> 01:28:01.403 (chanting funeral prayers) 01:28:21.963 --> 01:28:23.963 He couldn't save his own child. 01:28:24.083 --> 01:28:27.003 But he still saved another child. 01:28:28.683 --> 01:28:33.163 Aditya, the other child was me. 01:28:33.603 --> 01:28:36.523 That great man saved my life. 01:28:41.243 --> 01:28:43.963 Mr. Nadkarni, please forgive me. 01:28:44.283 --> 01:28:45.723 Accept my humble reverence. 01:28:45.843 --> 01:28:47.123 Hey, you crazy boy. 01:28:48.083 --> 01:28:49.563 Why are you apologising? 01:28:51.763 --> 01:28:53.843 My Dhruv didn't die that day. 01:28:56.003 --> 01:28:58.123 Only a father died that day. 01:29:04.763 --> 01:29:08.803 A father had taken his last breath. 01:29:09.843 --> 01:29:14.003 But the swayamsevak was still breathing. 01:29:16.563 --> 01:29:18.003 His name is Prashant. 01:29:21.723 --> 01:29:25.003 Prashant, live a long life, son. 01:29:27.763 --> 01:29:29.443 Be very successful. 01:29:32.003 --> 01:29:33.683 Don't lose your way. 01:29:46.523 --> 01:29:51.483 I'm not here to discuss my life but to talk about the Sangh. 01:29:54.203 --> 01:29:56.003 Please play the clip. 01:29:56.323 --> 01:29:57.323 Okay. 01:29:58.163 --> 01:30:01.363 Guys, play the video. 01:30:46.923 --> 01:30:48.883 The footage you see... 01:30:51.283 --> 01:30:55.563 These are examples of when the camera was on by mistake. 01:30:56.843 --> 01:31:00.803 Otherwise, there's no proof of 99% of the work done. 01:31:01.523 --> 01:31:05.963 When God is a witness there's no need for proof. 01:31:07.323 --> 01:31:09.722 I had taught you three things about the Sangh. 01:31:09.723 --> 01:31:10.843 Have you forgotten? 01:31:11.003 --> 01:31:15.483 First, don't make a poster out of helplessness. 01:31:17.083 --> 01:31:18.123 Second. 01:31:18.443 --> 01:31:20.843 Don't earn points for acts of service. 01:31:22.483 --> 01:31:24.443 Third and the most important point. 01:31:25.443 --> 01:31:29.603 Only God is a witness to acts of service. 01:31:31.203 --> 01:31:35.163 There's no doubt in the swayamsevak's heart. 01:31:35.883 --> 01:31:37.523 Only resolve. 01:31:40.443 --> 01:31:46.163 A swayamsevak chooses a life of service for himself. 01:31:48.203 --> 01:31:53.443 He doesn't act out of selfish needs. 01:31:53.883 --> 01:31:57.963 But for selfless reasons for others. 01:31:59.603 --> 01:32:01.563 You know all this, Vicky. 01:32:01.883 --> 01:32:03.163 Even then? 01:32:05.363 --> 01:32:09.843 Are you unable to see or unwilling to see? 01:32:22.003 --> 01:32:27.163 Vicky, hope you've got the answer to your fourth question. 01:32:27.523 --> 01:32:30.083 Or do you still have any doubt? 01:32:31.563 --> 01:32:32.883 I hope you're satisfied. 01:32:34.723 --> 01:32:38.683 And if you allow can we take a break now? 01:32:39.803 --> 01:32:41.003 There's no need to break. 01:32:41.643 --> 01:32:42.883 Let's continue. 01:32:47.363 --> 01:32:48.323 Audience. 01:32:49.843 --> 01:32:51.603 It's time for the last question. 01:33:24.763 --> 01:33:25.843 You must be feeling sad. 01:33:27.923 --> 01:33:29.003 As you should. 01:33:29.363 --> 01:33:31.363 Your opposition says... 01:33:31.603 --> 01:33:37.523 Whenever their agenda fails, they present a card in front of us. 01:33:40.203 --> 01:33:42.203 Can anybody tell me what that card is? 01:33:48.083 --> 01:33:49.763 Which card am I talking about? 01:33:51.403 --> 01:33:53.003 It's called the victim card. 01:33:59.923 --> 01:34:01.723 They toy with us. 01:34:03.243 --> 01:34:04.843 But kill their own. 01:34:10.483 --> 01:34:13.003 And they do it 01:34:13.123 --> 01:34:17.243 for our sympathy and so that they can emotionally manipulate us. 01:34:17.403 --> 01:34:18.803 Vicky! 01:34:27.483 --> 01:34:31.763 Are you going to point a finger at a swayamsevak's death? 01:34:33.203 --> 01:34:34.283 Easy, professor. 01:34:37.243 --> 01:34:40.962 Aditya, is this a boxing ring or a media newsroom? 01:34:40.963 --> 01:34:42.482 Please tell him. 01:34:42.483 --> 01:34:44.123 Vicky, there's no need to be sarcastic. 01:34:44.283 --> 01:34:45.723 Stick to the debate, okay? 01:34:46.203 --> 01:34:47.603 Present your point, please. 01:34:51.563 --> 01:34:52.563 Take a look. 01:34:54.963 --> 01:34:57.643 His name was Shrinath. 01:34:59.243 --> 01:35:03.323 He was a dedicated swayamsevak. 01:35:04.683 --> 01:35:07.083 But guess what happened to him. 01:35:07.643 --> 01:35:09.523 He was hacked to death. 01:35:16.763 --> 01:35:17.923 It's a tragedy. 01:35:19.083 --> 01:35:21.763 But was it murder? 01:35:21.923 --> 01:35:23.963 Or a political investment? 01:35:26.883 --> 01:35:30.603 I believe he was killed. 01:35:30.843 --> 01:35:31.843 Why? 01:35:33.123 --> 01:35:37.523 So that these shameless people can earn their votes over his dead body. 01:35:39.763 --> 01:35:42.803 You manufacture a martyr then you weaponise the grief. 01:35:45.883 --> 01:35:48.123 And today, professor... 01:35:49.923 --> 01:35:52.403 you must answer our questions. 01:35:57.083 --> 01:36:01.323 I had five questions but everything leads to this. 01:36:01.483 --> 01:36:03.243 This very question. 01:36:04.803 --> 01:36:08.003 This is final question. This is my last question to you. 01:36:12.763 --> 01:36:16.122 This isn't about Dronacharya believing a lie. 01:36:16.123 --> 01:36:17.923 Nor is it about a teacher and his student. 01:36:18.163 --> 01:36:20.642 This is about every Indian citizen. 01:36:20.643 --> 01:36:22.003 Every one living in India... 01:36:22.123 --> 01:36:23.923 ...whom they have lied to. 01:36:24.563 --> 01:36:27.443 And today you must answer for this, professor. 01:36:27.643 --> 01:36:28.923 At any cost. 01:36:48.763 --> 01:36:51.243 You called our sacrifice a business, Vicky. 01:36:53.243 --> 01:36:54.443 I'll remember that. 01:37:00.963 --> 01:37:01.963 Play this. 01:37:09.683 --> 01:37:11.443 Aditya, are you crazy? 01:37:12.123 --> 01:37:15.003 We can't play something that hasn't been vetted. 01:37:15.403 --> 01:37:16.843 We don't know what's on it. 01:37:17.123 --> 01:37:18.723 It could be hate speech. 01:37:19.003 --> 01:37:20.723 It could be graphic violence. 01:37:21.243 --> 01:37:23.963 We cannot do this, Aditya! 01:37:29.843 --> 01:37:32.123 Will you trust your teacher this time? 01:37:32.643 --> 01:37:33.643 Always, sir. 01:37:34.603 --> 01:37:35.603 Play it. 01:37:46.923 --> 01:37:48.603 (crowd protesting) 01:37:49.203 --> 01:37:50.483 Madam, are you from the media? 01:37:51.723 --> 01:37:53.203 That is not Vicky Hegde. 01:37:54.003 --> 01:37:55.483 He is lying, madam. 01:37:55.883 --> 01:37:57.083 Vicky Hegde. 01:37:57.763 --> 01:37:59.083 It’s a lie, madam. 01:37:59.683 --> 01:38:01.083 Just hold on, ma'am. 01:38:01.763 --> 01:38:02.803 What are you saying? 01:38:03.323 --> 01:38:05.243 He is not Vicky Hegde! 01:38:05.763 --> 01:38:07.203 Ma'am, I'll call you back. 01:38:08.523 --> 01:38:10.323 Come with me. Let’s go! 01:38:10.683 --> 01:38:11.683 Okay. 01:38:20.363 --> 01:38:25.763 Today this man, in front of the whole world... 01:38:27.203 --> 01:38:30.083 has maligned the character of the RSS. 01:38:32.843 --> 01:38:38.323 Now the country will judge on the basis of evidence. 01:38:39.763 --> 01:38:41.243 Not on theories. 01:38:41.963 --> 01:38:42.963 Vicky. 01:38:43.443 --> 01:38:46.483 This is the final answer to your final question. 01:38:47.083 --> 01:38:48.683 This is it. 01:39:38.683 --> 01:39:42.083 (chanting religious slogans) 01:39:58.763 --> 01:39:59.763 Pause. 01:40:03.203 --> 01:40:04.603 Vicky, did you hear that? 01:40:06.363 --> 01:40:07.803 Did you all hear that? 01:40:09.883 --> 01:40:11.243 Did you hear what they said? 01:40:13.523 --> 01:40:16.083 Did you hear what those murderers said? 01:40:16.683 --> 01:40:18.243 Do you at least agree on that? 01:40:20.443 --> 01:40:22.123 Yes or no? 01:40:30.803 --> 01:40:34.003 You don't have to belong to the Sangh. 01:40:36.203 --> 01:40:39.643 If you're an Indian citizen... 01:40:40.163 --> 01:40:42.243 If you're a true patriot... 01:40:43.003 --> 01:40:44.403 Then answer me this. 01:40:45.003 --> 01:40:47.443 Does this sound like the Sangh's slogan? 01:41:03.003 --> 01:41:04.483 The Palakkad Case judgement. 01:41:06.283 --> 01:41:08.322 Six out of the seven accused were sentenced to death. 01:41:08.323 --> 01:41:09.683 One was a minor. 01:41:10.003 --> 01:41:11.723 Read the court records. 01:41:14.083 --> 01:41:16.843 The killers were not our people, Vicky. 01:41:19.083 --> 01:41:20.923 They were political extremists. 01:41:22.803 --> 01:41:24.923 You wanted a pattern. 01:41:27.403 --> 01:41:29.003 Here's your pattern. 01:41:31.163 --> 01:41:33.123 November 15, 2021. 01:41:35.403 --> 01:41:37.003 Mambaram, Palakkad. 01:41:37.883 --> 01:41:39.003 Sanjith. 01:41:40.963 --> 01:41:42.883 He was travelling with his wife. 01:41:46.803 --> 01:41:48.363 They stopped his motorbike. 01:41:48.563 --> 01:41:51.083 And hacked the husband in front of the wife. 01:41:52.923 --> 01:41:55.843 Was that stage-managed martyrdom? 01:41:58.283 --> 01:42:00.083 March, 2002. 01:42:00.323 --> 01:42:01.323 Melur. 01:42:02.443 --> 01:42:04.603 CK Sujeesh and P Sunil. 01:42:05.523 --> 01:42:06.603 Double murder! 01:42:07.923 --> 01:42:09.003 Midnight attack. 01:42:12.403 --> 01:42:17.083 The RSS didn't pass judgement on this. The Supreme Court did. 01:42:25.163 --> 01:42:27.683 January 6, 2025. 01:42:29.443 --> 01:42:30.923 Conditions upheld. 01:42:38.203 --> 01:42:39.763 Have you heard of Dadu Singh? 01:42:43.083 --> 01:42:44.683 Konde, Chhattisgarh. 01:42:45.603 --> 01:42:48.003 Maoists killed him. 01:42:48.323 --> 01:42:49.203 Why? 01:42:50.923 --> 01:42:55.723 Because he was talking about the country in LWE area. 01:43:00.403 --> 01:43:02.523 You can check all this on the internet. 01:43:08.883 --> 01:43:10.403 Look at T Ashwini Kumar. 01:43:15.363 --> 01:43:17.483 Look at R Rudresh in Bengaluru. 01:43:36.403 --> 01:43:39.963 Vicky, I didn't expect this from you. 01:43:43.363 --> 01:43:45.243 I've taught you about all this. 01:43:48.003 --> 01:43:49.843 Did you forget everything so quickly? 01:43:52.003 --> 01:43:54.363 We didn't kill Shrinath. 01:43:57.483 --> 01:43:59.003 We lost him. 01:44:12.003 --> 01:44:13.723 Please understand this. 01:44:17.843 --> 01:44:20.323 The Sangh doesn't do anything just because they want to. 01:44:27.443 --> 01:44:29.203 The Sangh only does... 01:44:32.443 --> 01:44:34.723 whatever is necessary for the country. 01:44:38.203 --> 01:44:41.643 It's been like this for the last 100 years. 01:44:43.603 --> 01:44:46.323 That's why the Sangh exists. 01:44:49.483 --> 01:44:52.963 The day there is a swayamsevak in every house... 01:44:53.403 --> 01:44:56.843 we won't need the Sangh anymore. 01:45:00.203 --> 01:45:02.203 When people have differences... 01:45:03.203 --> 01:45:05.243 terror runs through their mind. 01:45:06.363 --> 01:45:08.403 When people come together... 01:45:10.843 --> 01:45:12.443 It's called the Sangh. 01:45:18.923 --> 01:45:21.683 These two words oppose each other. 01:45:25.083 --> 01:45:27.403 And you're trying to connect them. 01:45:33.763 --> 01:45:35.523 Vicky, this is not the Sangh's answer. 01:45:35.883 --> 01:45:38.163 It is India's. 01:45:39.083 --> 01:45:40.643 Of every Indian. 01:45:43.123 --> 01:45:45.163 Now, the decision is yours, son. 01:45:47.923 --> 01:45:50.163 (song playing) 01:46:02.963 --> 01:46:04.123 Vicky. 01:46:05.603 --> 01:46:07.883 (song continues) 01:47:02.403 --> 01:47:05.123 - (all) Hail Mother India! - Hail Mother India! 01:47:32.443 --> 01:47:36.723 You don't look as happy as you should be. 01:47:39.003 --> 01:47:40.203 He knew. 01:47:41.163 --> 01:47:44.923 He knew I had everything on the Shrinath murder case. 01:47:48.363 --> 01:47:50.003 I was the one who told him about it. 01:47:51.683 --> 01:47:52.963 Then... 01:47:53.763 --> 01:47:56.283 How could it be his final question? 01:48:09.523 --> 01:48:10.523 Who is he? 01:48:10.963 --> 01:48:12.163 He is from Palakkad. 01:48:12.283 --> 01:48:15.203 And what he's saying will burn our entire theory to ashes. 01:48:16.003 --> 01:48:17.002 Speak. 01:48:17.003 --> 01:48:21.203 Madam, the boy who is on TV is not Vicky Hegde. 01:48:21.523 --> 01:48:24.323 I've known him since childhood. 01:48:24.643 --> 01:48:26.763 He is Shrinath’s son. 01:48:28.443 --> 01:48:30.603 - Shrinath? - Yes, ma'am. 01:48:30.723 --> 01:48:31.723 RSS worker? 01:48:31.843 --> 01:48:32.843 Yes. 01:48:33.243 --> 01:48:34.603 The one who was murdered? 01:48:36.763 --> 01:48:37.763 Oh my God! 01:48:40.123 --> 01:48:42.003 He played... He played us all. 01:48:59.923 --> 01:49:03.363 The environment is a valuable resource. 01:49:03.483 --> 01:49:06.963 (all) The environment is a valuable resource. 01:49:07.643 --> 01:49:10.083 Trees are a source of life and oxygen. 01:49:10.203 --> 01:49:13.363 (all) Trees are a source of life and oxygen. 01:49:13.603 --> 01:49:14.843 Class dismissed, ma'am? 01:49:15.123 --> 01:49:16.123 Yes. 01:49:17.443 --> 01:49:18.083 Let's go. 01:49:19.723 --> 01:49:22.003 (song playing) 01:50:53.283 --> 01:50:54.003 Vicky. 01:50:56.923 --> 01:50:58.643 Mission RSS is complete. 01:50:59.083 --> 01:51:00.402 What next? 01:51:00.403 --> 01:51:02.003 Project "Ashtalakshmi". 01:51:02.203 --> 01:51:04.603 That's the Seven Sisters.