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The time is 13:45 hours

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on Wednesday, the 30th of December.

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You've been arrested
on suspicion of Section 3 RTA 1988.

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My mum was going, "Any update?"

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None.

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So we were just literally
both sitting in the kitchen

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watching my mobile phone and house phone,
waiting for the police to call.

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As Procurator Fiscal Head of Homicide,

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I had knowledge of every murder
and suspicious death

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that occurred across Scotland.

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A huge amount of resource was put in
to try to find Tony Parsons,

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and there was not
a single trace of him anywhere.

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Dr. Muirhead coming forward was the first
lead the police had had in years.

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So I instructed the police
to arrest the McKellar brothers.

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Armed police! Stand still!

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People started to privately
message me on Facebook

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saying, "My gosh,
what happened to the boys? Are they okay?"

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Show your hands! On the ground!

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The boys were taken
by officers in balaclavas

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to the police station for questioning.

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Your name?

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Alexander Gardner McKellar.

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What's your age?

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Twenty-nine.

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I was thinking, "It's still not too late."

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"If you go and confess,
you can do the right thing,

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and this ordeal would be over."

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What is it you do? Self-employed?

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Farmer. Anything to do
with the farm, really.

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Okay.

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You didn't show that man any kindness
at the time,

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but you can show kindness now.

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It might be late,
but it's better late than never.

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You'll be asked
about your involvement in offenses

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under Section 3A
of the Road Traffic Act 1988.

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That is causing the death of another

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using a vehicle
whilst unfit through drink or drugs.

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We understand that he's told Dr. Muirhead
precisely what has happened.

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So, potentially,
potentially he might tell the police.

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You're not bound to answer, but if you do,

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your answers will be recorded,

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may be noted and may be used
in evidence, understand?

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Yeah.

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Two detectives arrived
at my parents' front door.

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They said, "We need to sit down
and have a conversation."

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I had this horrible feeling
in my stomach that this has gone wrong.

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Have you ever been involved
in a road accident involving a cyclist?

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No comment.

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Have you been involved
in a crime and tried to cover it up?

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No comment.

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Can you tell me what you were doing

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on Friday, the 29th of September, 2017?

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No comment.

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Caroline Muirhead told us Sandy said
he'd knocked Mr. Parsons down

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and that he was buried on the estate.

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Do you know where Anthony Parsons is?

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But until the body of Tony Parsons
is found and then recovered,

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there is nothing whatsoever to show

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that that was a truthful statement.

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Did you see Anthony Parsons at all?

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No comment.

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Were you the last person to see him alive?

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No comment.

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There was no basis
at that time to charge them.

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The detective said, "We didn't have enough
to hold them, we had to release them."

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And my brain's just going,

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"Fuck."

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Then she went, "Don't worry,
we maintained your anonymity."

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And I was like,
"Who else do they think it's gonna be?"

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"We seized the estate,
so the boys won't be allowed back there."

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I said, "Where will they go?"

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"That's none of your concern, Caroline."

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It is when he's obviously
gonna get in touch with me.

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If you've just released him,
he's gonna get in touch.

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"Well, you tell him that
you've just heard that he's been arrested,

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and you've got your job,
and you don't wanna deal with him."

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That's not gonna fly.
I've told this guy I wanna marry him.

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"What if he turns up
at my parents' house?"

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"You call the police."
Well, then it's a bit too late, isn't it?

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Witness protection
is all about a risk assessment

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of the level of threat
that the individual poses.

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This isn't a serious
and organized crime group

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who are about to go
and shoot other rivals.

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The police advised Dr. Muirhead
to stay with her parents,

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to call them if she had
any contact from the McKellar brothers.

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They plainly felt that that was sufficient
in the circumstances to ensure her safety.

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Caroline said,
"You've gotta get alarms for the house."

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"You've gotta get door locks,
you've gotta get window locks."

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And she was totally panicking.

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She was frightened.

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What's to stop him
turning up at my mum and dad's front door?

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What is he thinking?

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Does he think this was me?

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What have the police said to him?

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Would he harm me?

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This man was trained
to kill professionally.

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And so I felt fucking terrified.

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The police were told
by Dr. Muirhead she left a Red Bull can

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at the spot that
Sandy McKellar said he'd buried the body.

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So we followed
the directions provided by Dr. Muirhead.

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You drive down
into the estate onto a rough track,

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crossing a ford and up into a hilly area.

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It's exceptionally remote.

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We were being kept abreast of matters
as they were happening.

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The first thing the police did
was to go search the area

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to see whether there was a Red Bull can.

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And lo and behold, there was.

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If the body of Tony Parsons isn't
underneath or near to the Red Bull can…

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…the chances of us finding it
are negligible to zero.

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You couldn't possibly search
the whole estate.

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If we don't find the body,
there is no case.

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There's no basis upon which the McKellars
can be re-arrested and re-questioned.

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I said to my mum I was gonna go stay
at a friend's, but I lied.

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I didn't want to put them in danger
or put them to any harm.

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I went back to my flat
'cause I just wanted to be on my own.

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When I arrived back,
there was a parcel waiting for me.

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And I knew it was gonna be one thing.

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Inside the box was the wedding dress
that his mum and I had ordered online,

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there in all its glory.

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I thought, "Do you know what?"

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"Fuck it, let's wear it."

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Too big.

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Heh.

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Oh, well.

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And I was just spiraling.

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And I think in my, sort of,

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pathetic way,

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I wanted to see
what it would've felt like…

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to wear it.

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Stupid as that sounds.

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You kind of have those moments
where you think, you know,

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"I wonder,
if this was an alternate timeline,

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what may have been
and what could've happened."

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You know it's not your reality,
but you like to daydream

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because just for those few minutes,

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it just takes you to a nicer,
happier place.

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Suddenly, I get a message
pop up in my inbox

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from Robert and Sandy's friend.

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Click on it…

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And the message says, "Hi, Caroline,
Robert and Sandy are with me."

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"They've come to stay with me
and my family an hour from Glasgow."

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They've seen that I've read the messages.
"Fuck, fuck, fuck, shit."

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They were clearly on their phone
the same time I was on my phone.

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And they're waiting on you to reply.

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If I don't answer
that message immediately,

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and immediately say,
"I miss you, I love you,"

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it'd be so obvious
that I'd been the one to betray him.

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Before I knew it, the phone is ringing.

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And they'll know
that the phone is in my hand ringing.

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You have to answer it.

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You just go,

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"Fuck."

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"Hi."

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I said, "I got messages from your friends
saying that you've been arrested."

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"What the hell is going on?"

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"Caroline, I've been trying to reach you.
I'm so worried about you."

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He went, "I think we've been
under surveillance for ages."

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"Robert's definitely opened
his stupid mouth when he's been drinking."

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"But, end of the day, Robert and I said,
'No comment' to everything, so it's fine."

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So I'm actually getting
this sense of hope, in some ways,

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that maybe the police kept me anonymous.

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Unless he's playing
a really, really dark, twisted game here,

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he can't know that
it was me who went to the police.

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And he was like,
"You've got your flat in Glasgow."

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And he was like, "When can we head over?"

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I'd resigned myself
to never hear from him again.

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My brain was…
in these two conflicting worlds.

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I missed him.
I wanted to see if he was okay.

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But also, inviting him over to my flat

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means I'm putting myself
in a really precarious situation.

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But as mental as it sounds,

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I said yes.

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You're standing
behind the door thinking,

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"This is either the best way to be safe

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or the most stupid thing
you've ever done."

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"And the most recklessly dangerous thing
you've ever done."

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You've got these big six-foot men
walking up a wee small corridor,

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looming into the viewfinder.

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I remember thinking, "Look happy."

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"Because you are happy to see them,

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because they were just arrested, released,
so you'll be so happy they weren't held,

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so relieved."

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"Embrace them, be warm with them,
laugh with them, comfort them."

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"'Cause otherwise, you're fucked."

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Body language tells you a lot.

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And he just seemed
genuinely relieved to see me.

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In that moment,

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I felt the heat was off.

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So you're thinking,

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"Good, this is okay,
this is fine, this is not bad."

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But then you're also thinking,

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"I need to be clever about this

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and create a plan in my own head
of how to survive this."

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I needed to keep them in good spirits

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as much as I possibly could
until they found the body.

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Right, music on,
pass the drink, pass the cigarette,

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let's have a party.

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We used substances and we drank,

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and drugs and alcohol
let you be a separate, different person.

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All the while,
they have no idea that I'm the one

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who instigated that entire police arrest.

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You're literally living
on the knife's edge.

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I don't know
how long this is going to take,

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and I'm starting to panic
that maybe Sandy actually got it wrong.

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And what if he isn't there?

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What if they're searching
and maybe they don't find him?

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Please, God, let the body be there.

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I got a phone call from the senior
investigating officer in this case.

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They'd got some witness information
that they might know

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where the missing cyclist, Mr. Parsons,
might be located.

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And I was asked, could I go along

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to see if there were any clues
from the soil or the vegetation

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that might support this witness statement?

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Cancer survivor, Tony Parsons,
had been crossing Scotland

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in a 100-mile charity cycle.

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Everyone remembered on the news,
just a few years previously,

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Mr. Parsons had been on a charity cycle
from Fort William to Tillicoultry,

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and he just vanished without a trace.

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Here in September 2017,

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the Navy veteran was captured on CCTV

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weaving through the rural roads.

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As we walked over the area,

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I could see that there was
an area that was devoid of vegetation.

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What we were finding
was that the older peat,

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the amorphous, mushy peat,

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was actually very near the surface,

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and so this area
had indeed been recently dug up.

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This was the place
where Mr. Parsons might be.

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So at that stage,
the forensic team has to be put together.

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So that would involve
an appropriately skilled digger driver,

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skilled forensic archaeologists,

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the forensic anthropologists.

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An exhumation isn't something
that happens quickly.

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You have to do it
in a very controlled, measured way,

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just as an archaeologist would do
in an ancient site.

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The Auch Estate is extremely remote,

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and it was the depths of winter,

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so it was plainly something
that was going to take a period of time.

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The days are going by,
waiting for that man to be found.

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It was so cold that the canal had frozen
outside my front window,

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so everyone was trying to stay indoors
and keep warm.

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You're living with killers,
sleeping alongside killers.

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You're having dinner alongside killers.
Killers who think you're on their side.

00:14:31.959 --> 00:14:33.439 align:center
And you've betrayed them.

00:14:33.520 --> 00:14:37.000 align:center
Searches for a cyclist
who went missing more than three years ago

00:14:37.079 --> 00:14:38.839 align:center
are continuing in the Highlands.

00:14:38.920 --> 00:14:42.439 align:center
Their fear was also palpable
about what was gonna happen to them.

00:14:42.520 --> 00:14:44.280 align:center
Everything's on high alert.

00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:46.439 align:center
Police say their investigation continues,

00:14:46.520 --> 00:14:50.640 align:center
and are once again urging
anyone with information to come forward.

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Their phone beeped,
you'd jump out your skin.

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I didn't know if a message would come
that said, "It was Caroline."

00:14:56.640 --> 00:14:57.599 align:center
It was exhausting.

00:15:00.599 --> 00:15:03.400 align:center
At one point, Robert signaled to me
that he wanted to have a chat.

00:15:03.479 --> 00:15:06.640 align:center
I'm thinking,
"What the hell is this gonna be about?"

00:15:06.719 --> 00:15:11.120 align:center
He looked so sad
and, like, empty, you know?

00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:21.280 align:center
He said, "Caroline,
I don't know what Sandy's told you."

00:15:25.839 --> 00:15:28.520 align:center
"But you have to understand,
when we hit that man…

00:15:30.319 --> 00:15:32.120 align:center
…it happened very fast,

00:15:32.199 --> 00:15:34.040 align:center
and he flew over the car."

00:15:35.319 --> 00:15:39.000 align:center
"We got out,
and when we walked towards him,

00:15:39.079 --> 00:15:40.319 align:center
he was alive."

00:15:41.599 --> 00:15:43.839 align:center
I thought he had been killed on impact.

00:15:44.520 --> 00:15:45.479 align:center
Fuck.

00:15:50.439 --> 00:15:54.439 align:center
He was saying it as if,
like, unburdening yourself.

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And Robert said that he moved him
to the side of the road with the bike,

00:16:00.160 --> 00:16:02.359 align:center
so they could change vehicles
and come back.

00:16:02.439 --> 00:16:06.920 align:center
And I was like, "Robert, so you left him
alone on the side of the road?"

00:16:07.800 --> 00:16:09.400 align:center
He was like, "Of course we did."

00:16:11.599 --> 00:16:16.199 align:center
And the thought
of that man being in agony,

00:16:16.280 --> 00:16:18.719 align:center
and you hide them from any passing car

00:16:18.800 --> 00:16:21.400 align:center
that may come down
that could help them or save them,

00:16:21.479 --> 00:16:25.520 align:center
that is a cruelty to another
which was so needless.

00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:30.959 align:center
If you'd called an ambulance,
and he passed away before it arrived,

00:16:31.040 --> 00:16:32.479 align:center
at least you've tried.

00:16:35.199 --> 00:16:37.400 align:center
He said, "We went back,

00:16:37.479 --> 00:16:38.719 align:center
changed cars,

00:16:38.800 --> 00:16:40.439 align:center
left our SIM cards…

00:16:42.800 --> 00:16:44.520 align:center
changed our clothes,

00:16:46.520 --> 00:16:47.760 align:center
put gloves on."

00:16:49.839 --> 00:16:50.839 align:center
"We went back,

00:16:50.920 --> 00:16:52.839 align:center
and he was still alive,

00:16:52.920 --> 00:16:55.439 align:center
but weakening, fading."

00:16:56.359 --> 00:16:59.439 align:center
They carefully lifted him into a tarpaulin
and then drove him back,

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and they kept him
overnight in a wooded area.

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And then that same vehicle was used
by the hunting clients the next day.

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Then they buried Tony Parsons
once the clients had left.

00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:21.000 align:center
And so whether it was an accident or not,

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all your actions, then, after it
are not accidental.

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And they're quite methodical,
and they're well planned out.

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And in my head,
this wasn't, then, a hit-and-run.

00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:36.040 align:center
This was…

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potentially a murder.

00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:42.919 align:center
Later that night,

00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:44.240 align:center
Sandy's sitting there,

00:17:44.320 --> 00:17:47.360 align:center
and he's starting to talk away,
having a cigarette,

00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:50.240 align:center
clearly in his memories,
and he's pondering things,

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and he's being quite open about the case.

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It occurred to me that

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if I was able to record
some of the stuff Sandy was saying,

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I would be able to help the police,

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and I might be able
to even record a confession.

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So that it could be over and finished.

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I've got my chess website out, playing,
and to the left it said, "Voice recorder."

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He would have zero idea
if I just clicked that record button.

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I'm playing the chess game
whilst it's recording in the background.

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What I find slightly weird
with you, Sandy, is, like,

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in some ways, you're so compassionate,
so loving, so friendly, so gentle.

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I can't imagine it.

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But then when I see you
when you've been drinking and stuff,

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I can see you guys doing it.

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I don't know.

00:18:44.520 --> 00:18:46.760 align:center
I don't know about anything anymore.

00:18:46.840 --> 00:18:48.840 align:center
It was a huge risk.

00:18:48.919 --> 00:18:51.080 align:center
Any point, he could've come
and put his arm around you

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and been like, "How's your game going?"

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The fact that
they're still questioning folk,

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and they're still trying
to divvy off everybody…

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It's not a clear-cut case.

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The thing that I think
you're going to get into trouble for…

00:19:07.800 --> 00:19:09.640 align:center
is the lack of empathy.

00:19:12.520 --> 00:19:14.080 align:center
Fucking hell, it's warm in here.

00:19:15.840 --> 00:19:19.040 align:center
I was starting to think,
"This won't work. This is going nowhere."

00:19:19.120 --> 00:19:21.440 align:center
So I tried to be more confrontational.

00:19:21.520 --> 00:19:24.399 align:center
How could you go out hunting
the next day and not be bothered?

00:19:25.600 --> 00:19:27.040 align:center
Like you must have been.

00:19:30.560 --> 00:19:32.360 align:center
How could you not be, though?

00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:37.800 align:center
It was either my life or his.

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My brain went,
"You've got it on recording,

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but stop now."

00:19:49.080 --> 00:19:50.560 align:center
I saw him walking over and I think,

00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:54.200 align:center
"This is now, potentially,
really not a safe situation."

00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:01.800 align:center
Can you get that?

00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:04.480 align:center
-What is it?
-It's my Deliveroo.

00:20:05.800 --> 00:20:07.600 align:center
I've got Red Bull and some cans.

00:20:09.120 --> 00:20:10.520 align:center
Healthy diet, yeah?

00:20:16.280 --> 00:20:18.360 align:center
When someone says,
"It's my life or theirs,"

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it was the admission I was so relieved
I had the voice recorder on for.

00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:26.240 align:center
But equally you're thinking,
"But then why is he not saying,

00:20:26.320 --> 00:20:29.919 align:center
'And I regret it,' or, 'I'm upset by it,'
or, 'I think about it'?"

00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:34.320 align:center
Was he actually someone
who cared that he'd done this?

00:20:34.800 --> 00:20:37.120 align:center
The extremes of the kindness
and the cruelty

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that both these twin boys had shown

00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:41.120 align:center
made me really wonder,

00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:45.600 align:center
what could have possibly happened
in their lifetime to make them that way?

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From 1999 to 2011,
I was a community police officer

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responsible for 79 square miles
of Argyll and Bute.

00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:06.600 align:center
It was community policing
in its original sense,

00:21:06.679 --> 00:21:11.080 align:center
back in the old days, you know,
the cop responsible for an area.

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And I fell in love with it.

00:21:13.800 --> 00:21:15.240 align:center
I had left the police,

00:21:15.320 --> 00:21:17.880 align:center
and I was aware of a missing person case.

00:21:17.960 --> 00:21:20.320 align:center
I think I was watching a local news story,

00:21:20.399 --> 00:21:24.560 align:center
and one mentioned the Bridge of Orchy,
and I'm like, "Well, that's my beat."

00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:27.000 align:center
Tony Parsons was cycling from Fort William

00:21:27.080 --> 00:21:28.960 align:center
back to his hometown of Tillicoultry

00:21:29.040 --> 00:21:30.200 align:center
when he went missing.

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So I'm interested.

00:21:32.120 --> 00:21:35.679 align:center
So I'm like, "Whoa. Stop, rewind, play.
What've we got here?"

00:21:36.399 --> 00:21:38.399 align:center
Police arrested two 29-year-old men

00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:40.960 align:center
in connection
with Mr. Parsons' disappearance.

00:21:41.040 --> 00:21:43.480 align:center
They were released
pending further inquiries.

00:21:43.560 --> 00:21:45.120 align:center
"Oh! They've arrested somebody."

00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:47.840 align:center
"That's good.
Arrested two people. Interesting."

00:21:47.919 --> 00:21:50.720 align:center
"I wonder who that is.
I wonder if it's who I think it is."

00:21:52.280 --> 00:21:55.240 align:center
I knew the McKellar brothers as boys.

00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:58.880 align:center
I would spend a lot of time
in the schools.

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Community policing,
stranger danger, cycling proficiency…

00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:04.040 align:center
I'd like to think
I meant something to them.

00:22:04.120 --> 00:22:07.560 align:center
I've certainly got the pictures
I think Robert drew of me, you know?

00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:10.960 align:center
I kept it. I had it on my office wall.
I've still got it. I'll show you.

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They were rough and ready.

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And I remember
having discussions in the school

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about maybe what the boys
were exposed to at home.

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It was enough
for the teacher to be concerned.

00:22:22.520 --> 00:22:26.480 align:center
I felt that that influence on the boys
came from the father,

00:22:26.560 --> 00:22:28.240 align:center
Tom McKellar.

00:22:29.439 --> 00:22:31.360 align:center
There was a couple of serious allegations.

00:22:31.439 --> 00:22:35.080 align:center
And the intelligence was enough for us
to get a warrant to search Auch Estate.

00:22:35.159 --> 00:22:38.520 align:center
And we found firearms
throughout the house.

00:22:41.760 --> 00:22:42.960 align:center
We found pistols.

00:22:43.040 --> 00:22:44.919 align:center
Now, pistols are illegal to own.

00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:47.919 align:center
And we found a firearm
within Sandy's bedroom.

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Having firearms strewed about your house,

00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:54.520 align:center
lying about
in your primary school kid's bedroom,

00:22:54.600 --> 00:22:55.960 align:center
this is serious now.

00:22:56.040 --> 00:22:59.000 align:center
And that resulted
in Tom McKellar getting prosecuted.

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From the age of 7,

00:23:02.320 --> 00:23:04.120 align:center
the familiarity with firearms…

00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:06.200 align:center
Holy shit!

00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:11.960 align:center
…the slaughtering of animals
and the disposal of animals…

00:23:12.040 --> 00:23:15.360 align:center
There seemed to be an acceptance
of that at too young an age.

00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:18.480 align:center
If you're exposed to it day and daily,

00:23:18.560 --> 00:23:21.960 align:center
it's gonna desensitize you
to taking a life.

00:23:23.399 --> 00:23:26.120 align:center
My thought at the time
when I was watching that newsreel was,

00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:29.640 align:center
"It is a good place to conceal a person."

00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:33.159 align:center
There's still bodies missing
here in Argyll that we haven't found.

00:23:39.399 --> 00:23:43.040 align:center
The priority was to take each zone,

00:23:43.120 --> 00:23:47.679 align:center
each layer of the soil,
centimeter by centimeter.

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Peat is dark.

00:23:50.560 --> 00:23:52.360 align:center
It's very dark brown.

00:23:52.439 --> 00:23:56.040 align:center
It's also, near the surface,
quite fibrous.

00:23:56.120 --> 00:23:57.840 align:center
So it hides things in it.

00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:02.760 align:center
We were looking for material
that had come from human origins,

00:24:02.840 --> 00:24:08.120 align:center
such as hair, fingernails,
any human-introduced material.

00:24:11.439 --> 00:24:14.640 align:center
When the archaeologists got further down,

00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:17.280 align:center
there were bones appearing.

00:24:17.760 --> 00:24:20.800 align:center
And what the anthropologists said was,

00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:23.640 align:center
"These look like deer bones."

00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:33.320 align:center
And what it turned out to be
was what is called a… a kill pit.

00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:39.000 align:center
Gamekeepers on that estate,
the McKellars, would have used this area

00:24:39.080 --> 00:24:42.360 align:center
to dispose of parts of the animals
that were not required.

00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:47.640 align:center
There had to be
a veterinary surgeon brought along

00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:51.000 align:center
to confirm that these were,
indeed, relatively fresh.

00:24:51.080 --> 00:24:54.120 align:center
These were consistent
with having been put in

00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:57.240 align:center
from the same time
that Mr. Parsons disappeared.

00:24:59.919 --> 00:25:04.800 align:center
But also, we were seeing an awful lot
of these little bits of wood chip.

00:25:05.800 --> 00:25:09.000 align:center
You wouldn't find wood chippings there.
It's not natural.

00:25:09.080 --> 00:25:11.919 align:center
They wouldn't be there
unless they'd been introduced.

00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.679 align:center
The question is, where did they come from?

00:25:15.159 --> 00:25:19.320 align:center
So we drove down
to the Auch Estate farmyard.

00:25:23.600 --> 00:25:27.000 align:center
As we were walking through that,
we saw a digger truck.

00:25:28.840 --> 00:25:31.600 align:center
When we looked at the bucket, within it,

00:25:32.360 --> 00:25:33.720 align:center
there was these wood chips.

00:25:39.439 --> 00:25:41.320 align:center
Those chippings were the same

00:25:41.399 --> 00:25:44.720 align:center
as the wood chips
that were found at the scene.

00:25:46.840 --> 00:25:48.720 align:center
What was particularly significant

00:25:48.800 --> 00:25:53.240 align:center
was the dimensions
between the teeth on the bucket.

00:25:53.320 --> 00:25:55.960 align:center
It was the same dimensions
that were measured

00:25:56.040 --> 00:25:59.439 align:center
between the marks
that were left at the peat bog.

00:26:00.840 --> 00:26:05.439 align:center
But only a few people would have
access to that particular vehicle.

00:26:05.520 --> 00:26:08.919 align:center
And two of those people
were the McKellar twins.

00:26:10.560 --> 00:26:14.159 align:center
We can trace the evidence
at the kill pit back to Robert and Sandy,

00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:18.240 align:center
but it's not enough to prove their guilt
because we had not found the body yet.

00:26:26.199 --> 00:26:27.720 align:center
Every day going past,

00:26:27.800 --> 00:26:30.360 align:center
I'm thinking,
"Surely they've got him by now."

00:26:30.439 --> 00:26:33.199 align:center
I have not heard
anything from the police, so…

00:26:33.840 --> 00:26:37.520 align:center
I was so at a loss
as to what was happening.

00:26:39.360 --> 00:26:44.360 align:center
And I felt like
I was in a state of permanent fear.

00:26:44.439 --> 00:26:46.560 align:center
And I'm lying in bed,
and I'm tossing and turning.

00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:50.960 align:center
And Sandy's snoring beside me.

00:26:51.040 --> 00:26:53.080 align:center
And then there was just this pounding.

00:26:54.919 --> 00:26:57.679 align:center
Like bang, bang, bang on the front door.

00:27:00.679 --> 00:27:01.960 align:center
"Shit! Shit! Fuck! Fuck!"

00:27:02.040 --> 00:27:04.640 align:center
I'm thinking, "The only people
who do that is the police."

00:27:07.439 --> 00:27:08.880 align:center
I'm like, jump out of the bed,

00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:10.840 align:center
close my bedroom door as fast as I can.

00:27:10.919 --> 00:27:13.919 align:center
And I go down the… go down my hall.

00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:18.800 align:center
There is the same female detective
who had been at my parents' house.

00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:22.679 align:center
Open the door ever so slightly.

00:27:22.760 --> 00:27:26.080 align:center
I'm like… "Can I speak to you downstairs?"

00:27:27.520 --> 00:27:28.640 align:center
"Who do you have in there?"

00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:31.560 align:center
"I need to speak to you
in the car, outside."

00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:32.840 align:center
"Why?"

00:27:32.919 --> 00:27:33.760 align:center
"Who's in there?"

00:27:35.199 --> 00:27:36.280 align:center
"Friends."

00:27:36.360 --> 00:27:37.199 align:center
"You're lying."

00:27:37.280 --> 00:27:38.600 align:center
Bang.

00:27:41.760 --> 00:27:45.360 align:center
And she opens up the door
where Robert was sleeping.

00:27:45.439 --> 00:27:48.840 align:center
She goes, "What the fuck, Caroline?!
You're our witness."

00:27:48.919 --> 00:27:51.360 align:center
And I'm thinking, "Did he hear that?"

00:27:51.439 --> 00:27:54.720 align:center
And the man goes in
and grabs Robert from the bed.

00:27:54.800 --> 00:27:58.480 align:center
She's storming into the bedroom
at the top, grabbing Sandy out of the bed.

00:27:59.040 --> 00:28:00.880 align:center
And they go,
"You're not supposed to be here,

00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.080 align:center
you're supposed to be
in care of friends in Aberfoyle."

00:28:03.159 --> 00:28:06.960 align:center
And Sandy goes, "I'm allowed to stay here.
This is my partner's house."

00:28:07.040 --> 00:28:10.120 align:center
I'm going, "Of course you're allowed
to stay here, Sandy, if you want to."

00:28:11.399 --> 00:28:15.960 align:center
And they went, "Right, you two,
you need to be out of here ASAP."

00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:20.040 align:center
And like that, they left.

00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:25.919 align:center
The police were checking on Caroline
to see if she was safe.

00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:27.399 align:center
I have no doubt they were astonished

00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.240 align:center
to discover the McKellars
were with her in the flat.

00:28:30.320 --> 00:28:32.600 align:center
Had she cut all contact with them,

00:28:32.679 --> 00:28:34.679 align:center
which she could readily have done,

00:28:35.159 --> 00:28:39.679 align:center
then, plainly,
she would have been rather safer.

00:28:39.760 --> 00:28:43.320 align:center
Personally, I'd have run a mile
to the nearest police station,

00:28:43.399 --> 00:28:46.320 align:center
and then I'd have kept on going
to a place of safety,

00:28:46.399 --> 00:28:48.760 align:center
and I would not have seen him again.

00:28:53.280 --> 00:28:56.320 align:center
I'm standing in my living room,
and Robert goes…

00:28:58.560 --> 00:29:00.080 align:center
"Caroline,

00:29:00.159 --> 00:29:01.760 align:center
how did she know your name?"

00:29:04.840 --> 00:29:07.720 align:center
"Have you met her before?
Does she know you?"

00:29:08.199 --> 00:29:10.159 align:center
"Have you spoken to the police?"

00:29:12.439 --> 00:29:13.800 align:center
"No, no. No, no, no, no."

00:29:13.879 --> 00:29:17.000 align:center
And Sandy, thankfully,
intervened and went, "Robert, back off."

00:29:17.080 --> 00:29:19.159 align:center
"Caroline would not do that to us."

00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:21.720 align:center
"She loves us. I trust her."

00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.040 align:center
And I could see, like,
Robert was so angry.

00:29:25.120 --> 00:29:27.800 align:center
Sandy's comforting Robert,
and they're hugging each other.

00:29:27.879 --> 00:29:29.320 align:center
Robert's like, "What'll we do?"

00:29:31.560 --> 00:29:35.679 align:center
Sandy's like, "Look, Robert,
it was three years ago."

00:29:37.800 --> 00:29:40.120 align:center
"If they had anything,
they'd have got us by now."

00:29:40.199 --> 00:29:42.040 align:center
"They're not gonna find him."

00:29:42.120 --> 00:29:44.080 align:center
"Even if they could
dig up that entire place,

00:29:44.159 --> 00:29:45.240 align:center
they're not gonna find him."

00:29:47.959 --> 00:29:50.760 align:center
Robert was like,
"Right, we need to get out of here now."

00:29:50.840 --> 00:29:52.679 align:center
And Sandy's then like,

00:29:52.760 --> 00:29:55.080 align:center
"I'm legally allowed
to stay with my fiancée."

00:29:55.159 --> 00:29:56.639 align:center
"They can't argue with that."

00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:01.879 align:center
Robert leaves to stay
with family friends outside of Glasgow,

00:30:01.959 --> 00:30:04.080 align:center
and Sandy and I are then left in the flat.

00:30:05.199 --> 00:30:09.120 align:center
He's like, "No, Caroline,
I know you would never, ever betray me."

00:30:09.199 --> 00:30:11.679 align:center
The way Sandy was defending me was so…

00:30:13.399 --> 00:30:15.240 align:center
weirdly comforting.

00:30:17.600 --> 00:30:19.159 align:center
To survive in that moment,

00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:22.120 align:center
I genuinely started to believe my own lie.

00:30:24.159 --> 00:30:26.000 align:center
I was the supportive girlfriend there,

00:30:26.080 --> 00:30:28.280 align:center
who'd also been treated badly
by the police.

00:30:30.560 --> 00:30:31.760 align:center
I was lying.

00:30:31.840 --> 00:30:35.480 align:center
I was betraying.
Yes, it was for a really good reason.

00:30:35.560 --> 00:30:38.439 align:center
But lying erodes a part of your soul.

00:30:38.520 --> 00:30:43.120 align:center
It was such a toxic entanglement.

00:30:44.800 --> 00:30:48.000 align:center
Caroline said,
"Mum, he thinks we're still a couple."

00:30:48.080 --> 00:30:50.520 align:center
"What do I do? He has a key."

00:30:51.520 --> 00:30:53.800 align:center
I know that she was very, very afraid.

00:30:53.879 --> 00:30:56.760 align:center
And she would lie there thinking,

00:30:56.840 --> 00:30:58.439 align:center
"How do I get out of this?"

00:30:59.879 --> 00:31:02.600 align:center
I honestly thought
I was going to have a heart attack.

00:31:02.679 --> 00:31:04.199 align:center
Was he gonna hurt her?

00:31:04.280 --> 00:31:05.760 align:center
Would-- would he kill her?

00:31:08.679 --> 00:31:11.800 align:center
The police had said,
"You cannot tell anyone about this."

00:31:11.879 --> 00:31:14.560 align:center
"Otherwise, you could compromise
this entire investigation."

00:31:16.679 --> 00:31:19.959 align:center
But I needed to talk to someone about it.

00:31:20.040 --> 00:31:23.439 align:center
The next opportunity when Sandy left,
I reached out to someone

00:31:23.520 --> 00:31:26.480 align:center
who wouldn't judge me for the state
I was in and would understand.

00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:31.720 align:center
"You may have noticed
I've been unusually quiet of late."

00:31:34.040 --> 00:31:37.560 align:center
"Don't know how I've managed it,
but I've been witness to a crime."

00:31:38.040 --> 00:31:41.199 align:center
"I can even hear you in my head
saying, 'Oh my days.'"

00:31:42.080 --> 00:31:46.520 align:center
And so I decided
to drive to her flat to see her.

00:31:46.600 --> 00:31:51.199 align:center
And she opened the door,
and she looked absolutely shocking.

00:31:51.280 --> 00:31:54.199 align:center
I was like,
"What the hell has happened here?"

00:31:56.760 --> 00:32:00.800 align:center
Caroline is like anally clean,
OCD-level clean.

00:32:00.879 --> 00:32:03.320 align:center
And this house was disgusting.

00:32:04.320 --> 00:32:07.840 align:center
She was just word-vomiting
this information at me

00:32:07.919 --> 00:32:09.800 align:center
in no coherent structure or order.

00:32:09.879 --> 00:32:12.760 align:center
It took me about 20 minutes to work out
what she was trying to tell me.

00:32:15.040 --> 00:32:18.280 align:center
Sandy had been involved
in the death of this guy.

00:32:19.199 --> 00:32:22.879 align:center
She's now spying on Sandy.

00:32:22.959 --> 00:32:25.719 align:center
Sandy, who we've just found out
has murdered somebody,

00:32:25.800 --> 00:32:28.159 align:center
was living in the flat,
which I didn't know,

00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:32.000 align:center
and had actually just popped out
for some beers

00:32:32.080 --> 00:32:33.240 align:center
and was coming back.

00:32:36.639 --> 00:32:40.000 align:center
And I was like,
"What the fuck is going on here?"

00:32:40.080 --> 00:32:41.600 align:center
And my wife's heavily pregnant,

00:32:41.679 --> 00:32:44.399 align:center
and I just need to…
I need to leave the situation.

00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:48.240 align:center
And as I was leaving,
Sandy just arrived back.

00:32:48.320 --> 00:32:52.000 align:center
He put out, uh, like, a hand
to shake his hand.

00:32:52.080 --> 00:32:54.560 align:center
And I just kind of
awkwardly shook his hand

00:32:54.639 --> 00:32:58.240 align:center
and said, "Nice to meet you,"
and then walked straight away.

00:33:01.320 --> 00:33:02.800 align:center
I was devastated.

00:33:03.760 --> 00:33:05.760 align:center
Her life was falling to pieces.

00:33:05.840 --> 00:33:09.959 align:center
And I think it's one of the few times
I've cried in about the last 20 years.

00:33:10.040 --> 00:33:12.120 align:center
I just-- It was all too much.

00:33:13.560 --> 00:33:16.000 align:center
I'll be honest,
I was so manic at that point,

00:33:16.080 --> 00:33:19.719 align:center
I don't really think I had
any control over what I was doing.

00:33:19.800 --> 00:33:23.120 align:center
I think, in some ways,
my life was becoming so surreal,

00:33:23.199 --> 00:33:24.840 align:center
my grasp on reality was weakening.

00:33:27.120 --> 00:33:29.959 align:center
Police have been scouring
this estate near Bridge of Orchy

00:33:30.040 --> 00:33:31.520 align:center
for around two weeks.

00:33:31.600 --> 00:33:33.919 align:center
It's understood specialist search officers

00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:36.760 align:center
and forensic teams
are excavating the area.

00:33:38.760 --> 00:33:40.879 align:center
Sandy gets a message from a friend

00:33:40.959 --> 00:33:44.080 align:center
that said the police
are looking at the carcass pits.

00:33:44.159 --> 00:33:46.919 align:center
We've been, I don't know,
listening to music or something,

00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:48.320 align:center
and he just slammed the radio off,

00:33:48.399 --> 00:33:52.320 align:center
and he just started smashing his fists
off the sideboard.

00:33:53.280 --> 00:33:56.040 align:center
Being like, "How do they know?
How do they know?"

00:33:56.120 --> 00:33:59.280 align:center
"Fuck! Fuck!
How do they know where he is?"

00:34:01.719 --> 00:34:04.000 align:center
I said, "You're fine.
They don't know where he is."

00:34:04.080 --> 00:34:06.600 align:center
And he was like,
"How could they be in that area?"

00:34:06.679 --> 00:34:07.840 align:center
"The place is so huge."

00:34:07.919 --> 00:34:11.360 align:center
I was like, "Someone else must know,
or someone on the farm told them."

00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:18.239 align:center
He had warped into, like, a crazed mania.

00:34:18.319 --> 00:34:20.199 align:center
He was convinced there were spy devices

00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.880 align:center
or taps for the police
to listen to the flat.

00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:28.000 align:center
And he gutted the-- I mean,
every light fitting, everything,

00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.000 align:center
essentially starting to trash it.

00:34:32.600 --> 00:34:34.560 align:center
There was just this inhuman desire

00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.960 align:center
to try and find
whatever device the police left.

00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:41.560 align:center
I was just thinking,
"I've told the police where he is."

00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:43.600 align:center
"I've marked the site

00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:45.960 align:center
to make this as fast as possible
for you guys."

00:34:46.040 --> 00:34:48.040 align:center
"This can't take forever."

00:34:48.120 --> 00:34:50.920 align:center
But it felt like absolute forever.

00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:57.319 align:center
It was a Thursday in January.

00:34:57.799 --> 00:34:59.799 align:center
It was a cold, cold day.

00:35:00.799 --> 00:35:03.480 align:center
It was a day that I'll remember
for the rest of my life.

00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:12.839 align:center
We were digging down
to about 30, 35 centimeters.

00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.680 align:center
And the forensic archaeologist

00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:21.120 align:center
took her trowel
and carefully was removing down,

00:35:21.200 --> 00:35:23.400 align:center
millimeter by millimeter.

00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:24.440 align:center
And she said,

00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.520 align:center
"There's something red here.
There's red material here."

00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:34.040 align:center
And we could see that

00:35:34.799 --> 00:35:38.200 align:center
it looked like fabric
that Mr. Parsons was last seen wearing

00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:39.880 align:center
when he was cycling his bike.

00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:49.440 align:center
And you could see that there were
the fingerless gloves of a cyclist.

00:35:49.520 --> 00:35:55.400 align:center
And indeed, she discovered that
there was a ring on his wedding finger.

00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:01.960 align:center
He was lifted onto the stretcher,

00:36:02.040 --> 00:36:05.440 align:center
and… as he was carried out,

00:36:05.520 --> 00:36:08.440 align:center
the sun came out between the clouds.

00:36:09.720 --> 00:36:13.680 align:center
We all stood with our heads bowed.

00:36:17.560 --> 00:36:20.680 align:center
And we all said a little silent prayer

00:36:21.839 --> 00:36:24.440 align:center
for Mr. Parsons and his family.

00:36:24.520 --> 00:36:27.560 align:center
I think not knowing what has happened

00:36:28.240 --> 00:36:30.319 align:center
to your loved one is…

00:36:31.200 --> 00:36:33.120 align:center
Is a form of torture, really.

00:36:33.200 --> 00:36:37.120 align:center
To be able to bring that,
at least, to an end

00:36:37.200 --> 00:36:39.760 align:center
by saying, "We have recovered his body."

00:36:39.839 --> 00:36:41.400 align:center
"We will, in the fullness of time,

00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:44.880 align:center
give you back the body
to allow you to have a funeral,"

00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:47.720 align:center
gives them something to hold on to.

00:36:52.839 --> 00:36:56.760 align:center
Now, human remains have been found
in a remote part of Argyll.

00:36:56.839 --> 00:37:00.040 align:center
Police have been carrying out
extensive searches in the area

00:37:00.120 --> 00:37:01.560 align:center
as part of their investigation

00:37:01.640 --> 00:37:04.640 align:center
into the disappearance
of cyclist Tony Parsons.

00:37:04.720 --> 00:37:07.640 align:center
The 63-year-old was last seen
more than three years ago.

00:37:07.720 --> 00:37:09.600 align:center
Sasha Spratt reports.

00:37:11.080 --> 00:37:14.160 align:center
The news broke out
to say human remains had been found

00:37:14.240 --> 00:37:15.080 align:center
on the Auch Estate.

00:37:16.799 --> 00:37:18.799 align:center
Sandy sat down,

00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:22.319 align:center
and I'm expecting
him to scream and shout or kick off,

00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:25.440 align:center
and he actually just sat in silence
for quite a while.

00:37:25.520 --> 00:37:29.040 align:center
I think, in that moment,
he was a bit broken.

00:37:29.680 --> 00:37:31.359 align:center
But he had this idea or this notion

00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:34.520 align:center
that perhaps there'd been
another farmworker on the estate

00:37:34.600 --> 00:37:37.160 align:center
who maybe had seen something
or who had leaked something.

00:37:37.240 --> 00:37:40.240 align:center
And he, thankfully,
never thought at any moment

00:37:40.319 --> 00:37:43.000 align:center
that, you know, one, it'd be me,

00:37:43.080 --> 00:37:45.640 align:center
or two, that there'd been,
like, an actual marker.

00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:51.000 align:center
Sandy and his brother
were allowed to return to the estate.

00:37:52.040 --> 00:37:54.960 align:center
So I dropped him home
and waved him goodbye.

00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:59.520 align:center
It was a mix of heartbreak
and genuine relief.

00:38:00.240 --> 00:38:02.480 align:center
I drove as fast as I could
to the police station

00:38:02.560 --> 00:38:05.760 align:center
because Robert had told me
Tony Parsons was potentially still alive

00:38:05.839 --> 00:38:07.200 align:center
at the time of the accident,

00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:11.000 align:center
and I also had
a confession of sorts on my laptop,

00:38:11.080 --> 00:38:12.839 align:center
and I wanted the police to hear it.

00:38:19.680 --> 00:38:22.920 align:center
How could you go out hunting
the next day and not be bothered?

00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:24.920 align:center
It was either my life or his.

00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:31.799 align:center
I remember messaging my mum and dad.

00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:34.160 align:center
They were like, "We're so proud of you."

00:38:34.240 --> 00:38:36.880 align:center
It was like, "Oh!"

00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:40.080 align:center
I was like,
"I've done some good in the world."

00:38:40.839 --> 00:38:43.560 align:center
Dr. Muirhead had provided
the police with information

00:38:43.640 --> 00:38:46.440 align:center
that Robert McKellar had confirmed to her

00:38:46.520 --> 00:38:52.080 align:center
that Tony Parsons was alive at the time
they removed him to the estate.

00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:54.600 align:center
That information changed it

00:38:54.680 --> 00:38:56.960 align:center
because it altered what we were looking at

00:38:57.040 --> 00:39:00.760 align:center
from a potential charge
of causing death by dangerous driving

00:39:00.839 --> 00:39:03.280 align:center
into the most serious crime it could be,

00:39:03.359 --> 00:39:04.440 align:center
namely one of murder.

00:39:06.240 --> 00:39:09.520 align:center
But in Scotland,
we have what's known as corroboration.

00:39:09.600 --> 00:39:14.920 align:center
So that all relevant facts
must be proved by two sources of evidence.

00:39:17.120 --> 00:39:21.600 align:center
Mr. Parsons' body would not be capable
of being examined immediately

00:39:21.680 --> 00:39:23.960 align:center
because of the fact it was frozen.

00:39:24.040 --> 00:39:27.799 align:center
There's a delay of seven days or so
before it can be examined.

00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:32.920 align:center
So until a full postmortem
has been conducted

00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:37.720 align:center
and the pathologists have come
to a conclusion as to the cause of death,

00:39:37.799 --> 00:39:41.920 align:center
and in this case, very particularly,
whether that death was instantaneous,

00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.640 align:center
there's still no basis to arrest them

00:39:45.720 --> 00:39:49.280 align:center
because we don't know
what the appropriate charges might be.

00:39:54.200 --> 00:39:56.120 align:center
Arriving back at my flat,

00:39:56.200 --> 00:40:00.720 align:center
for the first time in, like, two weeks
I didn't feel manic or frenetic.

00:40:00.799 --> 00:40:04.319 align:center
And the sun was shining, it was starting
to feel lighter and happier.

00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:12.720 align:center
And my phone rings, and it's Sandy.

00:40:13.799 --> 00:40:15.640 align:center
I can hear he's driving the pickup truck.

00:40:15.720 --> 00:40:17.359 align:center
He's on the loudspeaker.

00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:19.560 align:center
And, you know, I was like, "Hi."

00:40:20.240 --> 00:40:22.000 align:center
He was screaming,

00:40:22.080 --> 00:40:26.480 align:center
"You fucking little bitch,
you fucking did this!"

00:40:26.560 --> 00:40:28.120 align:center
I said, "I've not done anything."

00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.680 align:center
He said that Police Scotland
used a local farming lad

00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:34.799 align:center
to help with the grave-digging.

00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.080 align:center
"There was
a sugar-free Red Bull can left there."

00:40:37.160 --> 00:40:40.880 align:center
"You're the only person who drinks
sugar-free Red Bull, so you left it."

00:40:42.640 --> 00:40:45.520 align:center
And he's just like, "You fucking did this,

00:40:45.600 --> 00:40:47.200 align:center
and I have defended you to everyone."

00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:50.160 align:center
"I said it wasn't you,
and you fucking did this!"

00:40:50.240 --> 00:40:54.200 align:center
"You've handed me in. You've fucked me
and Robert over. You've fucked our lives."

00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:58.440 align:center
He was like, "I need to see you right now,
and we need to do this face-to-face."

00:40:58.520 --> 00:41:01.640 align:center
And he hangs up the phone,
and I swear to God, I started screaming.

00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:06.520 align:center
My brain was like,
"You are going to get extremely hurt now."

00:41:08.560 --> 00:41:11.040 align:center
He's got the spare keys to my flat
on the car keys.

00:41:11.520 --> 00:41:14.480 align:center
And I was like,
"I'm gonna die. He is going to kill me."
ow."