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It's Boxing Day,

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and it's a very beautiful day today…

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in sunny California.

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-Hello, Nancy. Happy Boxing Day.
-Hi, sweetie.

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Oh, someone's at the door.

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Oh, it's Tom!

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-Hey, Merry Christmas!
-Oh God! Merry Chri…

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Oh, mistletoe.

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-Oh, where?
-Right here.

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How many Christmases would this be?
'72, '92. Twenty years.

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-Oh.
-Whoa!

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-Too bright?
-Not for your wrinkles.

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Then there's Dave Thomas
and Harrison Thomas.

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He's plugging his ears. Why?

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Could it be you?

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Oh, I loved you in Home Alone!

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You were wonderful!

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Steve, how do you do?

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I'm really having fun here, Marty.
I mean that.

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I'll tell you something about Marty.

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Let's say you're gonna host
a dinner party,

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and you invite Marty.

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And then it turns out Marty can't come.

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You cancel the party.

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Look at… Look at Marty!

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It's gonna be one of those
hatchet awful things that I won't promote.

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It is hilarious that we have to pretend
we don't know each other.

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Not at all.

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-This is based on us knowing each other.
-It is.

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You and I have talked--

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Larry and I,
we have had one million dinners.

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-One million lunches.
-That's right.

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One million passionate lunches.

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This is continuing the conversation.

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That's right.

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In my business,
there's a traditional career path.

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TV, movies,

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then Broadway, your own special,

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reality show host, Chabad telethon,
dinner theater, The Palm Springs Follies,

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and then this show.

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There was no expectation to be a star.

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There was no,

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"Mama, it's happened!"

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There was none of that.

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It's just, "There's a mortgage."

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"There are kids."

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"I'm in the greatest profession
in the world. I'm so damn lucky."

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"How do I keep it going?"

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Why am I holding this knife?

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I work in comedy.

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And I do a particular kind of comedy.

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-Here comes Uncle Jack. Shoot me!
-Agh!

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It's sketch-oriented, character-oriented.

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Not many jokes.

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If you were to read a script
that I've written,

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there's not many jokes in it.

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It's all… You just have to trust me.

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Master Bonks, I do this for a loving,
you know? Trust me.

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Where I like my career the least is
when I feel like I'm doing something

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that 200 other actors could do.

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That's where I feel I'm wasting my time.

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When I'm doing my… my unusual little art,

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and it may not be good art,
but it's art because it's specific,

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then I'm very happy.

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Let the party begin!

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The characters he has played,

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they're not just parodies of a type.

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It's actually quite hard to make
a completely bizarre character real.

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That's what he does.

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And this is a book about what?

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It's… it's… it's a love letter,
really, I suppose,

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with a… with a dash of hatred,
in an almost mocha kind of swirl,

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if you'll have it.

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It's like seeing
your best friend in the world,

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who happens to be
the weirdest person ever.

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-How's that character coming?
-Oh, the Mad Hatter is coming fine.

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I don't know.
I haven't figured him out yet.

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It might be low and English.

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Hello. Any more strawberries
down there, Dormy?

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Any spoilt sandwiches?
I do love spoilt sandwiches, don't you?

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-Might be that.
-I like the lisp.

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Yes, okay. I overslept! Slept!

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-You… you over what?
-Slept!

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I like that.

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Have you any more food down there, Dormy?

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Any spoilt sandwiches or strawberries?

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I love strawberries, don't you?

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You don't realize how much energy it takes

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to do what he does.

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Won't you stay a while?

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He hasn't exhausted himself
by second-guessing a decision,

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by being frightened
that he made the wrong decision.

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You know how many hours in the day
you'd have if you didn't have that?

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I'd have 23 more hours.

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Hallo! Who are you?

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Get away!

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I don't like what you say

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Now…

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Oh my God, that's horrible.
Not the eyebrow work. That's fantastic.

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Ron-Ron, run up to yourself.

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I don't think
you should start that story with…

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If it makes you feel better,
you can also be my, uh, Life Alert

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in case I fall,

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and we can have colonoscopies together.

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Hello. How are you?

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I didn't notice there was a camera on me.

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This is so weird.

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I'm not used to being photographed.
I'm kind of shy.

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-Good morning, sir.
-Good morning!

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I would say my career
has been 80% failure,

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and I think those are pretty good odds.

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Show business is talent,
luck, and endurance.

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But you can have talent,
you can have tenacity,

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you can take the hits,

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but if you don't have the confidence
to get up there and fail,

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then you can't do it.

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I'm gonna go down to the set.

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-Hey!
-Hey!

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-Can I come with you to the funeral?
-Yeah!

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Please, God, yes. We… we need you.

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You're the glue. You're the Mabel
in the Charles/Oliver sandwich.

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Without you, we're two pieces
of stale white bread.

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Exactly. Come on.

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We have that scene,
but we know that scene.

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Yeah.

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I'm starting to feel very comfortable now

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with the lines for the rest of the season.

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I'm gonna get dressed.

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-See ya.
-Bye.

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You let them in.

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Hey, there's Ron Howard.

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Oh boy.

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Now the fun begins.

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So… so let me…
let me ask some incisive questions.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Like, why? Why do you continue
to push yourself?

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Well, I don't know. I think
I just love the sound of applause.

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-I have a different question.
-Yeah.

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Why do you continue?

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I just think it's important,
um, if you're "gifted…"

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-…to share that gift…
-Of course.

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…with… with people,
I don't know, like you.

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And we're grateful.

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-I know you are.
-Forever grateful.

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Have you ever thought… What have you done?

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Yes, it's Whitton Road.

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I wonder who that lady is.

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That was my bedroom.

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It's false for me to say
that comedy came from some space of pain.

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It's the opposite.

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It came from my whole life.
People were funny in my family.

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You know, I was this youngest of five.

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There was five years
between the fourth and the fifth.

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And I think I got so much attention
and so much love,

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and everyone told me
I was so great, and so funny,

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and so fabulous my whole life

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that I just boomed
into my, uh, uh, teen years

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without any kind of concern
that I, you know…

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I could look like, uh, Bill Schlechman

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with pimples and hairdo
and, "Hi, lady," and go up,

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and somehow, if she didn't ask me,
if she didn't say she'd go out with me,

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I'd say, "What's her problem?"

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And believe it.

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I profited from trickle-down comedy.

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My brother Michael
is a multi-Emmy, Golden Globe winner

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from everything from SCTV
to MADtv to Schitt's Creek.

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The thing that was really encouraged
was to make everyone laugh.

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-That was always encouraged in our family.
-Right.

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If you could make someone laugh,
even if you hurt a couple of people--

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Along the way.

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My father was general sales
manager of the Steel Company of Canada,

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very high position.

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Really funny, very sarcastic,

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slight Irish accent, came over at 21.

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"Hello, Marty."

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He was a bit of a handful,
you would agree.

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Mm-hmm.

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He would have occasional gin.

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-Yeah.
-Occasional subbing for the word constant.

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He would be snarky,
but it was all meant in… to be funny.

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Marty, my son,

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who has no possible chance in hell
to ever develop into a singing voice.

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But… but… but the point is
that he is interested.

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And the person that has
a distinctive voice

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is the one that's remembered.

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Marty was, uh, uh, tremendously talented.

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He started doing comedy
when he was, like, five.

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He was doing jokes, and doing bits,
and singing all the time.

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You did shows in the attic, literally,
did you not?

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I used to do the Martin Short Show.

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We were on at, uh, Tuesday at 8:30
opposite Andy Williams.

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In my mind. I would, uh, type up things.

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"Marty will sing… Marty's guests will be…"

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I would perform,
and I'd be killing upstairs,

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someone would call "dinner,"
and we'd stop and tape later.

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Yeah! Thank you, darling.

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Broadway, Broadway, Broadway

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Kids are playing road hockey,
and I'm up in my attic.

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-Weather-wise, such a cuckoo day
-Yeah.

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People are protesting the Vietnam War,
and he's doing Sinatra.

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Tell you about Broadway

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What Marty does now,
he was doing back then.

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Please welcome
the 100-million-dollar man himself,

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my best friend, Eugene Levy.

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Eugene Leevy.

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-Levy.
-Whatever. Please sit.

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Look at them over there.

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You'd think
they'd known each other for years.

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Truthfully, he's my oldest
and dearest friend.

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We were roommates together for a while.

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We dated for a period of time,
but the point is--

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Yeah.

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You're Canadian. Has that been a burden?

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No. No, it has not been a burden.

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You understand everything I'm saying?
I don't need to speak slower?

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We have the same language.

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Where do Canadians go
when they need to get away?

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Do they just go to the border
and look and peer and wish?

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Marty is my best friend.

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-Is your best friend?
-Yes.

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I met Marty in 1970 at McMaster University

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when we were in school together.

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It looks like he's an actor

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trying desperately hard
to get dramatic work.

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Yeah, he does.

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Well, I started out in pre-med,
and I switched to social work

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because I felt that would be easier.

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In high school, I never did any theater.

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It wasn't till I switched to social work
that I had time and I got more involved.

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And I'm doing everything
that I can theatrically.

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It still did not seem realistic
to be an actor.

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Eugene Levy was the one who said,

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"You should try to do this professionally.
Come to Toronto."

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So I literally gave myself
a one-year contract.

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I thought, "I'll give it a year,

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and if nothing happens,

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then I can apply
and go back to university."

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Post-graduate work?

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No, high school.

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I'm having some degree of difficulty
getting through high school.

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-I see. Well, good to have you--
-But I'll do it.

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I'm sure you will.

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Because I have certain goals in life
I feel compelled to complete.

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Very good.

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One of which is becoming
a circuit court judge.

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Good. Good to have ambition.

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I don't think you're ever aware
that you're in a particular group

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or a particular time.

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Toronto certainly had a creative boom.

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Is this coincidental, or is there
some Canadian comedic sensibility

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that particularly appeals?

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Well, I do think that Canada, uh,
Toronto particularly, it's, uh, at a hub.

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You know, we would get the Pythons
before the States got the Pythons.

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Eugene Levy and I shared a house,

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1063 Avenue Road in Toronto.

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And this house had more parties.

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Paul Shaffer would get up
and play the piano,

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and people would sing,

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and everyone kind of dated each other,
and partied with each other,

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and worked with each other.

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It was really kind of fantastic,
when you think of it.

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We all were performers,

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and we all loved to laugh.

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There was a lot of enthusiasm and fun,

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and a great love of performing.

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At the Catskills in these summer resorts,

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there was a guy called the tummler.

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In Yiddish, that means
a guy who causes a tumult,

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gets action going.

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I don't think Marty was in the Catskills,
but he sure is, you know…

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He is the tummler of… of our dreams.

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Everything was there with Marty.
His voice was there. His comedy was there.

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I said, "There's a show opening,
Godspell."

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"You should come in and audition for it
'cause it's a big musical."

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We went to the callback together,

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and that's where I introduced
Marty to Andrea.

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Godspell was looking for people
that weren't acting.

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That were just
genuinely, um, effervescent,

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uh, comedic, uh, warm.

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-Day by day
-Day by day

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Day by day

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Gilda Radner,
it was the first time she'd worked,

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and Andrea Martin and Eugene Levy
and Victor Garber

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and Jayne Eastwood and a lot of--

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-An amazing cast.
-Yeah. Paul Shaffer was the piano player.

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Right, right. You dated, uh, Gilda.

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Yes, I did. Everyone fell in love
with Gilda. She was adorable.

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She was so funny,
and she was just so self-deprecating.

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First day, she came up to me and went,
"Hi, my name's Gilda. Nice to see you."

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She had a pimple here,
and she kept holding it and talking to me.

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-Everyone fell in love with Gilda.
-Yeah.

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It's a safe thing to say.

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You later fell in love with her understudy
and married her.

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Yes, I… Uh, Nancy Dolman,
who was, uh, Gilda's understudy.

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That's true. In Godspell.

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Apparently, you had decided,
"Anyone who plays that part,

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I'm gonna get involved with." Uh, is that…

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That was… Yes, that was my decision.

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When I came into Godspell,
I was auditioning as understudy.

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I came in. It was very difficult for me
because the group was already set.

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They were all best friends.

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And there was Gilda,
and she was just so spectacular.

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And Andrea Martin, who I was in awe of.

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All these… You know, Marty…

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Marty, I wasn't that keen on
at first, actually.

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You turn me on, I'm a radio…

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And Nancy was

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drop-dead beautiful. It was insane.

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I'm a wildwood flower, waving for you…

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And she owned an antique clothing store.

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She had smuggled clothes in from Detroit
through the border.

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And it was the era…
You know, that Joni Mitchell…

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And she had a Joni Mitchell look.
It was long, blonde hair.

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When you're loving and kind

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And she'd come in with a velvet cape
and sign in, "Hi."

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And the guys'd go,

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"Yeah, okay then." But it didn't bother me
'cause I was with Gilda.

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We'd broken up a few times,
and we'd now had a fight.

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We'd broken up again.

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And I go to The Pilot bar,

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and there's Nancy Dolman.

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She was funny and had edge.

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And we got talking.

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She'd just broken up with her boyfriend,
but that wasn't…

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I just, "Oh.
Yeah, I just broke up with Gilda."

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I was doing a play, and Nancy came.
It was the summer.

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And she was wearing short shorts
and a halter top.

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And I was wearing
short shorts and a T-shirt.

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And we went to the Four Seasons Hotel.

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And I said to the guy,
"My wife and I would like a room, please."

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And even he started laughing
because we looked about 12.

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And that was it. That was it.

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From this moment on

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-What?
-Hi, this is my wife, Nancy.

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Beauteous Duchess.

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Who is presently listening
to the cast album of The Goodbye Girl.

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Is that Nancy, or is that Bo Derek?

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I'm listening to your song.

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So perverse

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Better call a nurse

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Marty and Nancy.

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Yeah, what a team, eh?

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I keep saying they're an amazing team,
but they really were.

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He's very outer child.

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And… And she was very outer adult.

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Oh my…

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My husband and I went through
a rough patch in our marriage.

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We went to therapy,
and one of the questions she asked is,

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"Do you have friends,
do you know a couple,

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whose relationship you would love to have,
or you'd love to emulate?"

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We said, "Oh, we have these friends,
Marty and Nancy."

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And she said,

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"I can't tell you
how many people have named them…"

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"…when I've asked this question."

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Hi, sweetie.

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-My darling, how are you?
-I'm fine, darling. How are you?

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Are we having a romantic time together?

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Yes, we are.

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After all these years.

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We really are, you know.

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This is slightly relevant.

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It's about time.

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Tell me what led to the break
that changed your life.

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The thing about
Canadian entertainment then,

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it was you got to do everything.

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It was like being at
a consistent university of show business.

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So in Canada, you could do
Shakespeare and radio,

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and you might do a voice commercial.

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On sale for just $39.95.

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And then you'd do your cabaret show.

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I'll never love again

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I'm so in love with you

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In the summer of 1973,

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Second City, the legendary
improvisational group from Chicago,

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formed its first sister company
in Toronto.

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Gilda Radner worked there.
Dan Aykroyd worked there.

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It was kind of the… the cool place
where you'd meet.

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Everyone auditioned for it,
and everyone got in.

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Andrea and Catherine and Joe
and Eugene and Dave and John Candy.

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I did not audition.

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I didn't like the idea
of being funny on demand

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'cause I was basically afraid of it.

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I wanted to be Sinatra.

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I wanted to be a singer.
I wanted to be an actor.

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I've got to be

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Where my spirit can run free…

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But I was now starting to feel
like I'm behind everyone.

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I have limited myself,

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and I'm going in a kind of circle.

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I don't feel momentum.

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Of the sky

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I remember going down
to the subway in Toronto.

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Every time I went down there,
the subway was leaving.

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I would run toward the subway.

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I'd walk really slow. It was leaving.

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And I thought, when the subway's
pulling in, my luck will change.

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But right now, the subway is pulling away.

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Nancy had a record deal in LA,
so I was gonna join her.

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Now, Miss Nancy Dolman.

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This is it

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This time I know it's the real thing

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And she really broke through
and was on national television prime time,

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even before Marty.

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She was the whole package.

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A beautiful voice,
perfect pitch with perfect diction,

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looks like a movie star,
and the nicest person.

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There's a moment I call Breakdown Corner.

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Paul Shaffer and Bill Murray
were staying in LA.

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Did he scare you
As much as he scared me?

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At that time,
Bill Murray had already been a big hit

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and just started on SNL that year.

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…my seventh winter up here!

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Star Wars

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And Paul said, "Bill and I are
going to dinner, so you and Nancy join us,

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and we'll swing at my place,
the Sunset Marquis."

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And Nancy and I are walking there.

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And I just was overwhelmed with,

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"I can't. I can't do it.
I can't do it. I can't."

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I'm out of work now.
Hadn't worked for a couple of months,

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had no prospects, and didn't really know
where I was going.

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And I said, "I can't go
and pretend to be happy for Bill

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because I don't know what I'm doing."

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"I need to sit down."

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Son,

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why are you sitting here all alone?

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Why aren't you outside
having fun and joining in?

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-Well, I just don't feel like it, sir.
-Ah.

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I guess I'm kind of down in the dumps.

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We sat there for about ten minutes
and didn't speak.

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Finally, Nancy said,

00:22:51.286 --> 00:22:53.413 align:center
"How long are we going to stay here?"

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I said, "I don't know."

00:22:57.709 --> 00:22:59.503 align:center
So we went back to the apartment,

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and I woke up in a funk.

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And then we saw War Babies,
who were an improvisational group.

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I was… It was so funny.
It was so fresh. It was inspiring.

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I felt inspired just witnessing it.

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It was like a…
The… the light bulbs went off.

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"Of course this is
what I should be doing."

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I phoned Andrew Alexander
the next morning and said,

00:23:22.734 --> 00:23:24.528 align:center
"I wanna go into Second City."

00:23:24.611 --> 00:23:27.114 align:center
He said, "All right."

00:23:30.700 --> 00:23:34.413 align:center
Marty Short was so strong, like,
immediately when he came in the cast.

00:23:34.496 --> 00:23:36.540 align:center
Most people… When he joined the cast.

00:23:36.623 --> 00:23:40.085 align:center
Most people would come in
and sort of try to find their place.

00:23:40.585 --> 00:23:44.172 align:center
When you come in in the middle of the
show, coming into someone else's roles,

00:23:44.256 --> 00:23:48.051 align:center
most people would basically try to imitate
the person whose roles they're doing.

00:23:48.135 --> 00:23:52.514 align:center
He just immediately put his own
ridiculously strong characters

00:23:52.597 --> 00:23:54.683 align:center
into these scenes and, like, just…

00:23:55.684 --> 00:23:58.562 align:center
Just such great self-confidence,
and so funny.

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I always figured if you walked
on stage and you look totally insane,

00:24:04.234 --> 00:24:05.360 align:center
you'd get a laugh.

00:24:05.444 --> 00:24:07.195 align:center
And then you were halfway there.

00:24:07.988 --> 00:24:12.159 align:center
All these characters, I think,
come from people you know,

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or combinations of people you know.

00:24:14.035 --> 00:24:16.955 align:center
And it's kind of good that they do,
because that creates…

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even though there might be
absurdist characters,

00:24:19.207 --> 00:24:21.084 align:center
it creates a three dimension to them.

00:24:21.168 --> 00:24:22.961 align:center
Just the thought of it makes my heart beat

00:24:23.044 --> 00:24:26.089 align:center
like a distant little jungle drum,
I must say.

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I'll do Grimley,
but I'm not sure if they want me to.

00:24:30.135 --> 00:24:31.219 align:center
No, they would…

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Oh my goodness.

00:24:41.146 --> 00:24:42.647 align:center
Oh, give me a break!

00:24:42.731 --> 00:24:46.067 align:center
I couldn't be more excited being
on the David Letterman show, I must say.

00:24:47.652 --> 00:24:51.156 align:center
There was a scene about
a man and a woman applying for a job.

00:24:51.239 --> 00:24:54.242 align:center
And the woman
is beyond experienced and educated.

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And the… the guy
is the biggest dumbass in the world.

00:24:58.079 --> 00:25:00.332 align:center
-Now, Barbara, maybe you'd like to begin.
-All right.

00:25:00.415 --> 00:25:03.335 align:center
Why don't you tell me
about your educational background?

00:25:03.418 --> 00:25:07.589 align:center
Uh, well, I have my bachelor degree
in mathematics from Columbia University.

00:25:07.672 --> 00:25:12.385 align:center
And I have my master's
in business administration from Stanford.

00:25:12.469 --> 00:25:15.972 align:center
Oh. Um, now, Ed,
how about your work experience?

00:25:17.224 --> 00:25:18.808 align:center
F… for the past several years,

00:25:18.892 --> 00:25:21.478 align:center
I've been employed
by the Union Oil Company.

00:25:21.561 --> 00:25:23.980 align:center
Really? Uh, in what capacity, Ed?

00:25:24.064 --> 00:25:27.359 align:center
I work at Al 76 at the corner
of Cahuenga and Melrose, you know?

00:25:28.276 --> 00:25:29.819 align:center
He'd done it in the improvs,

00:25:29.903 --> 00:25:32.447 align:center
but it was the first time
he put Ed in a scene.

00:25:32.531 --> 00:25:34.866 align:center
And he just blew the scene apart.

00:25:35.367 --> 00:25:37.410 align:center
In a good way. In the best way.

00:25:37.911 --> 00:25:39.788 align:center
Made it just ridiculously funny.

00:25:39.871 --> 00:25:41.706 align:center
It allowed me to play too.

00:25:41.790 --> 00:25:45.794 align:center
Like, this is insane
that I'm losing to this guy.

00:25:47.212 --> 00:25:50.757 align:center
Ed Grimley always wore the same shirt.

00:25:50.840 --> 00:25:52.676 align:center
It was my shirt from 11th grade.

00:25:54.636 --> 00:25:57.430 align:center
I knew a guy in high school
who always talked…

00:25:57.514 --> 00:25:59.391 align:center
He wanted to be a photographer.

00:25:59.474 --> 00:26:01.101 align:center
He was going to, um…

00:26:01.184 --> 00:26:03.436 align:center
He was always taking slides.

00:26:03.937 --> 00:26:08.984 align:center
And, um, uh, often,
he wouldn't always develop them

00:26:09.067 --> 00:26:12.070 align:center
because he knew what they looked like
'cause he'd taken them.

00:26:13.113 --> 00:26:16.574 align:center
I got a brother-in-law, Ralph.
And Ralph talks like this.

00:26:17.075 --> 00:26:19.452 align:center
"Hey, babe, how are you doing?
Get you a drink?"

00:26:19.536 --> 00:26:22.622 align:center
So I kind of combined, uh, the voices.

00:26:22.706 --> 00:26:25.083 align:center
Next, I was talking like this, I must say.

00:26:25.166 --> 00:26:28.128 align:center
Peter Aykroyd said, "Marty…"
I greased my hair a little bit.

00:26:28.795 --> 00:26:32.299 align:center
He said, "Boy, that hair
is standing taller every performance."

00:26:32.382 --> 00:26:35.593 align:center
So as a joke to make him laugh,
I put it in a point.

00:26:36.970 --> 00:26:38.847 align:center
And one night, I just did this.

00:26:39.848 --> 00:26:41.016 align:center
And the audience laughs.

00:26:41.099 --> 00:26:43.852 align:center
What if someone asks you
to play your triangle at the reception?

00:26:43.935 --> 00:26:46.479 align:center
It could happen.
I'd best practice in preparation.

00:26:52.777 --> 00:26:55.739 align:center
Ed is always fascinated by life.

00:26:55.822 --> 00:26:58.742 align:center
That's very seductive
because it's a great quality.

00:27:02.370 --> 00:27:05.540 align:center
I remember him doing,
and still doing, that dance,

00:27:05.624 --> 00:27:07.917 align:center
the Ed Grimley dance,
from when I first met him.

00:27:08.668 --> 00:27:11.796 align:center
That show was a revelation,
doing Second City,

00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.467 align:center
because I now, for the first time,
was creating characters.

00:27:17.218 --> 00:27:18.178 align:center
So…

00:27:21.765 --> 00:27:26.061 align:center
I thought, "If I look, I'm gonna laugh."
So I looked just slightly off of his face.

00:27:26.144 --> 00:27:29.064 align:center
Then he would do this,
trying to get into my eyeline.

00:27:32.067 --> 00:27:35.654 align:center
And am I madly in love with Catherine?
Yes, and always have been.

00:27:35.737 --> 00:27:37.113 align:center
But every guy was.

00:27:37.197 --> 00:27:38.657 align:center
-No. I love Marty.
-It's true.

00:27:38.740 --> 00:27:40.867 align:center
When someone makes you laugh,
that's the sexiest thing.

00:27:40.950 --> 00:27:43.119 align:center
-Absolutely.
-You're all making each other laugh.

00:27:43.203 --> 00:27:46.748 align:center
You think, "We're laughing.
We are so connected. We gotta try dating."

00:27:46.831 --> 00:27:49.626 align:center
-Yeah, didn't everybody love each other?
-Yeah, absolutely.

00:27:50.126 --> 00:27:52.712 align:center
I used to be able to,
in the Godspell picture, go,

00:27:52.796 --> 00:27:54.547 align:center
Day by day

00:27:55.048 --> 00:27:57.092 align:center
Day by day

00:27:57.175 --> 00:27:58.468 align:center
-Oh dear Lord
-No!

00:27:58.551 --> 00:28:00.553 align:center
-Oh yeah.
-Wait, but you did all those women?

00:28:00.637 --> 00:28:01.471 align:center
No, I didn't do all those--

00:28:01.554 --> 00:28:03.139 align:center
I was just saying
everyone who had done each other.

00:28:06.184 --> 00:28:10.563 align:center
I just left Second City. I just left
two weeks ago after being there…

00:28:11.648 --> 00:28:12.565 align:center
…for two years.

00:28:12.649 --> 00:28:15.610 align:center
I mean, it really is true
that it's the best place

00:28:15.694 --> 00:28:17.404 align:center
to learn a great deal of information.

00:28:17.487 --> 00:28:20.365 align:center
Then, once you learn it,
you have to do something with it.

00:28:20.448 --> 00:28:23.076 align:center
You just can't stay there.
So that's why I moved on.

00:28:23.159 --> 00:28:25.036 align:center
And since then, I… I've… I've

00:28:25.620 --> 00:28:27.664 align:center
done really nothing with it, but I… I'm…

00:28:27.747 --> 00:28:29.874 align:center
I would do guest spots on Taxi,

00:28:29.958 --> 00:28:31.793 align:center
but it was getting a little sparse.

00:28:32.377 --> 00:28:35.213 align:center
Hi, do you remember me?
I'm the guy in television.

00:28:35.296 --> 00:28:38.925 align:center
Then I got a call. Would I join SCTV?

00:28:40.427 --> 00:28:44.097 align:center
We interrupt this program
to bring a special SCTV News announcement.

00:28:44.180 --> 00:28:46.349 align:center
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm Guy Caballero.

00:28:46.433 --> 00:28:48.268 align:center
Owner and president of SCTV.

00:28:48.351 --> 00:28:50.478 align:center
And this is my station manager,
Edith Prickley.

00:28:50.562 --> 00:28:51.771 align:center
Hello, how's it hanging?

00:28:52.856 --> 00:28:55.859 align:center
And the consensus at the CBC
is it's going to be gangbusters.

00:28:55.942 --> 00:28:57.777 align:center
Well, how couldn't it be?
It'd have to be, wouldn't it?

00:28:57.861 --> 00:29:01.072 align:center
It was on fire with creativity.

00:29:01.156 --> 00:29:04.284 align:center
I don't know what the ratings were,
but from a critical standpoint,

00:29:04.367 --> 00:29:06.703 align:center
and if you were in comedy
and show business,

00:29:06.786 --> 00:29:08.997 align:center
the perception of it
couldn't have been higher.

00:29:10.331 --> 00:29:12.459 align:center
How do you parody Canadian television,

00:29:12.542 --> 00:29:16.087 align:center
make it at all interesting to Americans,

00:29:16.171 --> 00:29:18.298 align:center
who don't know what you're parodying?

00:29:22.177 --> 00:29:23.970 align:center
Tell me about when Marty entered.

00:29:24.053 --> 00:29:26.473 align:center
Do we have to?
We're… we're on such a roll.

00:29:27.765 --> 00:29:32.771 align:center
Marty came in with, of course,
this energy that became infectious.

00:29:33.938 --> 00:29:36.274 align:center
But at a certain point,
we started to despise the energy.

00:29:36.357 --> 00:29:37.609 align:center
-We did.
-Enough's enough.

00:29:37.692 --> 00:29:40.570 align:center
The crowd
is literally buzzing with excitement

00:29:40.653 --> 00:29:42.947 align:center
as Mr. Rodgers enters the ring.

00:29:43.031 --> 00:29:44.449 align:center
Oh, look out there, Fred.

00:29:46.034 --> 00:29:48.661 align:center
Rodgers is chasing her around the ring.

00:29:48.745 --> 00:29:50.079 align:center
She's running in terror.

00:29:50.163 --> 00:29:54.709 align:center
Coq au vin or no coq au vin,
this woman is in trouble.

00:29:54.793 --> 00:29:57.003 align:center
Ladies and gentlemen, the Queen Haters.

00:30:03.468 --> 00:30:06.846 align:center
It was thrilling to be in it,
but it was also a little daunting

00:30:06.930 --> 00:30:08.598 align:center
because I knew everyone in the cast.

00:30:08.681 --> 00:30:10.850 align:center
Andrea Martin was my sister-in-law.

00:30:11.392 --> 00:30:13.603 align:center
Boy, are you stupid!

00:30:14.896 --> 00:30:16.272 align:center
I like that in a man.

00:30:16.773 --> 00:30:18.858 align:center
My brother Michael was one of the writers.

00:30:24.322 --> 00:30:25.740 align:center
I knew these people,

00:30:25.823 --> 00:30:29.035 align:center
so their accomplishments so far
made it daunting.

00:30:31.371 --> 00:30:35.083 align:center
Your play is deemed by critics
unadulterated trash.

00:30:35.875 --> 00:30:38.169 align:center
But now, less than two years later,

00:30:38.253 --> 00:30:41.464 align:center
the lady has bounced back
with courage and chutzpah

00:30:41.548 --> 00:30:43.883 align:center
to direct herself in her own film.

00:30:43.967 --> 00:30:46.803 align:center
What intrigues me is one word.

00:30:47.303 --> 00:30:48.388 align:center
Motive.

00:30:49.138 --> 00:30:50.932 align:center
You really struck a nerve, Brock.

00:30:52.475 --> 00:30:55.019 align:center
What SCTV was doing
was creating characters.

00:30:55.603 --> 00:30:58.773 align:center
And everyone's instinct
from Second City training

00:30:58.857 --> 00:31:01.276 align:center
was to give it kind of a three dimension.

00:31:01.985 --> 00:31:05.446 align:center
Even if it was
an abstract, broad character,

00:31:05.530 --> 00:31:07.615 align:center
it still was grounded
in some kind of truth.

00:31:07.699 --> 00:31:09.117 align:center
What have you been up to?

00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:13.538 align:center
You know, just playing around, babe.
Trying to get things happening.

00:31:14.038 --> 00:31:15.999 align:center
Everybody, smiles tonight now.

00:31:16.082 --> 00:31:18.084 align:center
Hollywood party!

00:31:18.167 --> 00:31:19.502 align:center
Everybody's…

00:31:19.586 --> 00:31:22.922 align:center
And suddenly,
your whole world was just these people.

00:31:23.006 --> 00:31:25.091 align:center
The demon dad of Fleet Street.

00:31:25.174 --> 00:31:26.843 align:center
Doo, du-doo-loo, du-doo-du-doo

00:31:26.926 --> 00:31:28.678 align:center
Don't come near me

00:31:28.761 --> 00:31:30.430 align:center
Doo-loo, du-doo-loo, du-doo

00:31:30.513 --> 00:31:32.223 align:center
I'll cut you up and eat you

00:31:32.307 --> 00:31:34.475 align:center
-Are these talkies or…
-These are talkies.

00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:37.729 align:center
-Are these still… JVC still photos?
-No, they aren't.

00:31:37.812 --> 00:31:39.230 align:center
-Impressive unit.
-Thank you.

00:31:39.314 --> 00:31:42.525 align:center
It's the McKenzies!
They're together. I just panned back.

00:31:42.609 --> 00:31:44.777 align:center
We can't be together
unless the price is right.

00:31:44.861 --> 00:31:45.820 align:center
Sorry. You gotta be…

00:31:45.904 --> 00:31:48.239 align:center
Now, SCTV was a massive hit.

00:31:48.990 --> 00:31:50.658 align:center
And we won an Emmy for writing.

00:31:50.742 --> 00:31:52.243 align:center
It was fantastic.

00:31:52.327 --> 00:31:55.997 align:center
Quickly, our careers became our families.

00:31:56.080 --> 00:32:00.293 align:center
And, uh… And that's actually
a literal, uh, truth.

00:32:02.962 --> 00:32:06.883 align:center
Nancy and I got married
on the 22nd of December in Toronto.

00:32:06.966 --> 00:32:07.967 align:center
And then five days later,

00:32:08.051 --> 00:32:11.304 align:center
Andrea got married
to Nancy's brother, Bob.

00:32:14.515 --> 00:32:18.561 align:center
The great strength of that group
was that they were friends and close,

00:32:18.645 --> 00:32:20.146 align:center
and some of them related.

00:32:21.814 --> 00:32:24.984 align:center
We spent every holiday together.

00:32:25.485 --> 00:32:28.363 align:center
There was just a hub of activity,
and nobody was thinking,

00:32:28.446 --> 00:32:31.240 align:center
"Am I gonna make it? Is he gonna make it?
Is that person going to get it?"

00:32:31.324 --> 00:32:33.534 align:center
I don't ever remember any of that.

00:32:36.162 --> 00:32:38.998 align:center
Am I getting paid for this?
I'm a pay-or-play.

00:32:41.250 --> 00:32:42.961 align:center
Would you stop, please?

00:32:43.044 --> 00:32:46.422 align:center
It's quite a group of people, isn't it?
From Godspell and Second City.

00:32:46.506 --> 00:32:47.840 align:center
Hi, Harold.

00:32:47.924 --> 00:32:49.884 align:center
They're just being themselves.

00:32:49.967 --> 00:32:52.804 align:center
Goofing off and talking,
like you are with friends.

00:32:55.223 --> 00:32:58.559 align:center
Nancy and I lived
on the same street growing up in Toronto.

00:32:58.643 --> 00:33:03.231 align:center
And I first heard of Nancy
through my brother and his goofy friends.

00:33:03.314 --> 00:33:06.901 align:center
They were goo-goo and ga-ga over her
because she was so beautiful.

00:33:08.820 --> 00:33:10.863 align:center
We were very good friends before.

00:33:10.947 --> 00:33:14.659 align:center
But then, when I started dating Eugene,
we became family.

00:33:20.456 --> 00:33:22.250 align:center
Hi, honey. How you doing?

00:33:22.333 --> 00:33:24.085 align:center
-Is it on?
-Yes, it is.

00:33:24.627 --> 00:33:26.838 align:center
Well, we've had a wonderful morning.

00:33:26.921 --> 00:33:28.381 align:center
Some relationships

00:33:28.464 --> 00:33:31.676 align:center
just keep getting stronger
and stronger and stronger.

00:33:33.594 --> 00:33:36.597 align:center
We were stunned.
Suddenly, we couldn't get pregnant.

00:33:37.098 --> 00:33:38.141 align:center
That was…

00:33:39.225 --> 00:33:41.644 align:center
Th… that… We hadn't even considered that.

00:33:43.563 --> 00:33:46.190 align:center
And then we found out
that Nancy had endometriosis.

00:33:46.274 --> 00:33:49.360 align:center
So she had to go on drugs.
And your moods are heightened.

00:33:49.444 --> 00:33:53.322 align:center
So one night, she was cleaning.
I'd made a peanut butter and jam sandwich.

00:33:53.406 --> 00:33:55.408 align:center
"Look, when you clean the sandwich,

00:33:55.491 --> 00:33:58.536 align:center
you've got to wipe the peanut butter
off this counter."

00:33:58.619 --> 00:34:01.205 align:center
I said, "Okay,
you have to stop those drugs."

00:34:01.289 --> 00:34:02.957 align:center
"And we're gonna adopt a baby."

00:34:03.041 --> 00:34:05.209 align:center
"Can we?" You know.

00:34:05.293 --> 00:34:08.254 align:center
And out the drugs went.
And we adopted Katherine.

00:34:09.047 --> 00:34:11.174 align:center
And then Oliver. And then Henry.

00:34:12.425 --> 00:34:15.887 align:center
Oh, my baby.
I just have to kiss my baby. One second.

00:34:17.722 --> 00:34:18.556 align:center
Dada.

00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:20.475 align:center
Dada-da-da-da

00:34:20.558 --> 00:34:26.063 align:center
To see him as a father is so, uh, genuine,

00:34:26.147 --> 00:34:28.816 align:center
authentic to who he is.

00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:31.861 align:center
My next-best girlfriend to my wife.

00:34:32.361 --> 00:34:36.324 align:center
It's as fluid and as genuine
as… as his breath.

00:34:36.407 --> 00:34:38.493 align:center
That's how much he loves being a dad.

00:34:40.495 --> 00:34:42.455 align:center
I never would have left SCTV.

00:34:42.997 --> 00:34:44.207 align:center
But it was canceled.

00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:50.296 align:center
Then I got a call saying, "We'd like you
to join Saturday Night Live."

00:34:51.089 --> 00:34:54.092 align:center
It's Saturday Night Live

00:34:54.175 --> 00:34:56.427 align:center
with Julia Louis-Dreyfus,

00:34:57.303 --> 00:34:59.263 align:center
Harry Shearer,

00:35:00.389 --> 00:35:02.266 align:center
Martin Short.

00:35:02.767 --> 00:35:06.395 align:center
The first two pieces I worked on
were with Harry Shearer.

00:35:16.197 --> 00:35:18.199 align:center
Oh, it's… it's not gonna be easy.

00:35:18.282 --> 00:35:19.826 align:center
I don't swim.

00:35:19.909 --> 00:35:20.993 align:center
He doesn't swim.

00:35:21.077 --> 00:35:22.495 align:center
So, I mean, no, of course not.

00:35:22.578 --> 00:35:25.248 align:center
Nobody is just gonna walk up
and hand us a gold medal,

00:35:25.331 --> 00:35:29.460 align:center
especially since men's synchro
isn't even in the '88 Olympics yet.

00:35:29.544 --> 00:35:32.171 align:center
That's okay 'cause we could use the time.

00:35:33.005 --> 00:35:36.676 align:center
'Cause I'm… I'm not that strong a swimmer.

00:35:38.511 --> 00:35:42.557 align:center
The next piece we shot was Lifestyles
of the Relatives of the Rich and Famous.

00:35:42.640 --> 00:35:45.643 align:center
…Central Park,
New York's tree-lined melting pot,

00:35:45.726 --> 00:35:46.936 align:center
sits the hot dog stand

00:35:47.019 --> 00:35:50.690 align:center
managed by Katharine Hepburn's
maternal third cousin, Nelson.

00:35:51.190 --> 00:35:53.025 align:center
We caught up with him recently.

00:35:53.526 --> 00:35:56.237 align:center
We don't communicate at all. Never did.

00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:58.447 align:center
I tried through letter,

00:35:58.531 --> 00:36:01.659 align:center
through phone call,
anonymous sometimes, and she'd hang up.

00:36:01.742 --> 00:36:04.162 align:center
One time, she stopped by here,

00:36:04.245 --> 00:36:06.873 align:center
and I said, "Kate, don't you know me?"

00:36:06.956 --> 00:36:10.543 align:center
She just looked at me,
and she said, "More mustard, please."

00:36:10.626 --> 00:36:12.253 align:center
And after the first show,

00:36:12.336 --> 00:36:14.088 align:center
my manager came up and said,

00:36:14.172 --> 00:36:17.341 align:center
"Well, your stock just went up 3,000%."

00:36:19.510 --> 00:36:24.098 align:center
It was an amazing year.
But I remember it was grueling.

00:36:25.516 --> 00:36:28.561 align:center
Saturday Night Live, it's very intense.
A long schedule.

00:36:28.644 --> 00:36:32.273 align:center
Especially if you're, uh,
writing and performing.

00:36:32.940 --> 00:36:37.737 align:center
I like to write with, you know,
Mike there, Dick Blasucci, Paul Flaherty,

00:36:37.820 --> 00:36:39.447 align:center
and a tape recorder going.

00:36:39.530 --> 00:36:41.240 align:center
And I would get up and improvise.

00:36:41.324 --> 00:36:44.702 align:center
And when I was doing SNL,
I was just by myself in the office.

00:36:44.785 --> 00:36:46.412 align:center
-You hated it.
-Oh, I hated it.

00:36:47.205 --> 00:36:49.707 align:center
I went into Dick Ebersol's office

00:36:49.790 --> 00:36:52.043 align:center
and said, "I would like to quit."

00:36:52.543 --> 00:36:56.339 align:center
He said, "Look,
first of all, you have a contract,

00:36:56.422 --> 00:36:59.383 align:center
but this must be
a pretty goddamn tough place

00:36:59.467 --> 00:37:01.719 align:center
if a good guy like you wants to leave."

00:37:02.845 --> 00:37:04.013 align:center
"I'll tell you what,

00:37:05.598 --> 00:37:07.600 align:center
if you feel this way at Christmas,

00:37:08.100 --> 00:37:09.852 align:center
I'll let you out of your contract."

00:37:10.353 --> 00:37:12.480 align:center
Because he knew, as he later said,

00:37:13.564 --> 00:37:16.567 align:center
that by Christmas, I'd see
the light at the end of the tunnel,

00:37:16.651 --> 00:37:20.488 align:center
and I also would have figured out
how to do this from week to week.

00:37:20.571 --> 00:37:21.948 align:center
You seem defensive.

00:37:22.031 --> 00:37:24.700 align:center
I'm not being defensive.
You're the one who's being defensive.

00:37:25.910 --> 00:37:28.037 align:center
Why is it always
the other person who's being defensive?

00:37:30.122 --> 00:37:32.667 align:center
Have you ever asked yourself that?
Why don't you ask yourself that?

00:37:33.334 --> 00:37:36.587 align:center
If you make them three-dimensional
in some sort of human connection,

00:37:36.671 --> 00:37:38.047 align:center
then you can really go.

00:37:38.130 --> 00:37:41.676 align:center
Mr. Thurm, we appreciate your willingness
to talk with us tonight.

00:37:41.759 --> 00:37:43.052 align:center
What do you mean by that?

00:37:44.303 --> 00:37:48.683 align:center
Mr. Thurm, as you are well aware,
your critics, and there are many--

00:37:48.766 --> 00:37:49.600 align:center
No, there aren't.

00:37:50.893 --> 00:37:53.229 align:center
How do you come up
with a character like that?

00:37:53.312 --> 00:37:55.147 align:center
It was so incredibly original.

00:37:55.231 --> 00:37:59.819 align:center
There was a… a makeup artist
that year on SNL, Marion Siebert.

00:37:59.902 --> 00:38:03.322 align:center
She was the most defensive human being

00:38:03.406 --> 00:38:05.533 align:center
you had ever met in your life.

00:38:05.616 --> 00:38:07.118 align:center
You'd sit in her chair.

00:38:07.201 --> 00:38:09.495 align:center
And she'd dab. "Look at me."

00:38:10.746 --> 00:38:13.541 align:center
"Your features don't match.
This is tough for me."

00:38:14.041 --> 00:38:15.251 align:center
She's dabbing.

00:38:15.334 --> 00:38:18.462 align:center
I'd say, "Gee, I look pale.
Don't I, Marion?"

00:38:18.546 --> 00:38:20.673 align:center
She'd say, "I know that.
You don't think I know that?"

00:38:20.756 --> 00:38:22.758 align:center
"I'm a makeup artist. I would know that."

00:38:22.842 --> 00:38:25.011 align:center
Harry Shearer said,
"You should do that character."

00:38:25.094 --> 00:38:26.887 align:center
I said, "But she's gonna
actually be there."

00:38:26.971 --> 00:38:29.765 align:center
"Oh, that'll be the fun of it,"
said Harry. And, uh…

00:38:30.266 --> 00:38:34.186 align:center
And every time we did the piece,
I was afraid I would get caught.

00:38:34.270 --> 00:38:36.272 align:center
I know that. Why wouldn't I know that?

00:38:36.355 --> 00:38:38.441 align:center
It's my company. I'm quite aware of that.

00:38:40.484 --> 00:38:41.485 align:center
Is it me?

00:38:42.153 --> 00:38:43.321 align:center
It's him, right?

00:38:44.363 --> 00:38:46.574 align:center
And she never found out
until the very end.

00:38:46.657 --> 00:38:48.701 align:center
Her assistant was drunk at the wrap party.

00:38:48.784 --> 00:38:51.495 align:center
"Don't you know who Nathan Thurm is?"

00:38:52.163 --> 00:38:54.248 align:center
"How dumb are you?"

00:38:54.790 --> 00:38:56.876 align:center
"You're Nathan Thurm!"

00:38:57.752 --> 00:39:00.629 align:center
She said, "I know that. You don't think
I know that? I know that. I would--"

00:39:03.466 --> 00:39:05.343 align:center
What about Saturday Night Live?
Are you going back?

00:39:05.426 --> 00:39:07.595 align:center
-No. No, I'm not.
-Why?

00:39:08.095 --> 00:39:12.516 align:center
Because it's a very tough show to do,
and it takes your total concentration.

00:39:12.600 --> 00:39:16.771 align:center
So your family has to kind of wave goodbye
most of the year.

00:39:21.442 --> 00:39:22.401 align:center
Hi, Mommy.

00:39:23.319 --> 00:39:24.278 align:center
Hi, Dad.

00:39:25.279 --> 00:39:27.031 align:center
You've seen these thighs, haven't you?

00:39:29.366 --> 00:39:33.662 align:center
…my home
And I don't give a damn about tomorrow

00:39:33.746 --> 00:39:34.914 align:center
I love my little house

00:39:34.997 --> 00:39:36.582 align:center
It's Toronto

00:39:36.665 --> 00:39:37.625 align:center
Welcome

00:39:38.250 --> 00:39:40.044 align:center
to 590 Indian Road.

00:39:41.337 --> 00:39:43.631 align:center
And this is Martin Short's wife.

00:39:44.757 --> 00:39:47.093 align:center
The controversially misunderstood

00:39:48.177 --> 00:39:49.595 align:center
Nancy Dolman.

00:39:50.096 --> 00:39:51.931 align:center
Or otherwise known as…

00:39:52.681 --> 00:39:54.016 align:center
The Duchess of Dolman.

00:39:54.100 --> 00:39:56.018 align:center
Bum-bum-bum-ba

00:39:59.897 --> 00:40:01.482 align:center
Martin Short.

00:40:02.942 --> 00:40:04.402 align:center
He's the one in the middle.

00:40:06.529 --> 00:40:08.489 align:center
That is Martin at age

00:40:09.156 --> 00:40:10.199 align:center
nine.

00:40:12.284 --> 00:40:14.829 align:center
That's Martin, second from the left.

00:40:15.329 --> 00:40:18.791 align:center
Martin, would you like to pick up
a dish towel and give me a hand here?

00:40:18.874 --> 00:40:24.171 align:center
This is a heavier-set Martin Short
in the summer of 1963.

00:40:37.476 --> 00:40:41.105 align:center
There was a very, very great deal of love
in that house.

00:40:45.568 --> 00:40:48.320 align:center
I was the youngest of five,
and everyone was hysterical.

00:40:49.321 --> 00:40:52.825 align:center
Parents and all the kids,
so I just… That was all I knew.

00:40:54.785 --> 00:40:56.579 align:center
I mean, we would do recordings.

00:40:57.663 --> 00:41:00.958 align:center
Good afternoon, ladies
and gentlemen. Good evening too.

00:41:01.041 --> 00:41:04.044 align:center
People would sing at the piano,
make fun of each other.

00:41:04.128 --> 00:41:06.255 align:center
Nora, you start being funny.

00:41:08.257 --> 00:41:10.176 align:center
My name is, um…

00:41:10.718 --> 00:41:12.595 align:center
Get a lot of laughs with this name?

00:41:12.678 --> 00:41:15.639 align:center
Why are you trying to get over
you can't get a laugh with a name?

00:41:15.723 --> 00:41:16.974 align:center
You want my last name?

00:41:17.057 --> 00:41:18.267 align:center
Might be funny.

00:41:19.268 --> 00:41:20.519 align:center
Jenny Cardinal.

00:41:23.022 --> 00:41:24.190 align:center
Got a laugh!

00:41:24.690 --> 00:41:26.942 align:center
There was verbal freedom in our house.

00:41:27.026 --> 00:41:29.445 align:center
So you could talk back to your father,

00:41:29.528 --> 00:41:32.698 align:center
and he would overpower you
with his Irish intellect.

00:41:32.781 --> 00:41:34.325 align:center
Take the microphone, Dad.

00:41:34.825 --> 00:41:36.160 align:center
Take the microphone.

00:41:36.243 --> 00:41:37.703 align:center
Just take it. Sing something.

00:41:37.786 --> 00:41:40.831 align:center
Dad, would you come and sing
before he goes crazy?

00:41:41.415 --> 00:41:44.335 align:center
There will come a day

00:41:44.418 --> 00:41:46.837 align:center
And youth will pass away

00:41:46.921 --> 00:41:52.551 align:center
Everyone will say, "I love you"

00:41:53.135 --> 00:41:54.929 align:center
Now, let's meet Olive Short,

00:41:55.012 --> 00:41:57.932 align:center
concert mistress
of the Hamilton Philharmonic Orchestra.

00:41:58.015 --> 00:41:59.725 align:center
She is also the wife of a Stelco-ite,

00:41:59.808 --> 00:42:03.729 align:center
CP Short, the general sales manager,
screw products division.

00:42:03.812 --> 00:42:06.815 align:center
She was the first female
concert mistress, they used to call it,

00:42:06.899 --> 00:42:11.654 align:center
in North America from 1952 to '62,
at Hamilton Philharmonic.

00:42:17.451 --> 00:42:22.122 align:center
My mother was a sweet angel of a person.

00:42:22.623 --> 00:42:25.376 align:center
My father had so much edge.

00:42:25.459 --> 00:42:27.419 align:center
I think that with any family,

00:42:27.503 --> 00:42:33.008 align:center
if you have one grounded,
sweet, angelic person,

00:42:33.092 --> 00:42:36.303 align:center
whether the mother or the father,
then that balances everything out.

00:42:43.352 --> 00:42:47.648 align:center
-You had three brothers, one sister?
-Three brothers, one sister.

00:42:47.731 --> 00:42:50.776 align:center
Your brother, David,
you were very fond of him, were you not?

00:42:50.859 --> 00:42:52.403 align:center
Yeah, he was my hero.

00:42:52.486 --> 00:42:54.029 align:center
He was your hero. Why?

00:42:54.113 --> 00:42:56.740 align:center
Because he was,
I guess, the eldest brother,

00:42:56.824 --> 00:42:58.909 align:center
and because he was phenomenal.

00:42:58.993 --> 00:43:02.288 align:center
I mean, he died when I was 12,
so sometimes out of that comes legend,

00:43:02.371 --> 00:43:05.457 align:center
but the legend in this case
was really very deserved, I think.

00:43:07.835 --> 00:43:09.878 align:center
David was handsome.

00:43:10.963 --> 00:43:12.423 align:center
He was funny.

00:43:12.923 --> 00:43:16.260 align:center
He was so sweet, ridiculously sweet,

00:43:16.343 --> 00:43:17.428 align:center
and adored.

00:43:17.928 --> 00:43:20.472 align:center
Trumpet player, cool guy.

00:43:22.182 --> 00:43:23.475 align:center
He was 14 years older.

00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:26.687 align:center
When he came home,
probably at four in the morning,

00:43:26.770 --> 00:43:28.397 align:center
and now it's 7:30,

00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:30.107 align:center
I would go up to his room.

00:43:30.190 --> 00:43:34.903 align:center
A lot of 19-year-olds would say,
"Get out. I'm sleeping."

00:43:35.613 --> 00:43:37.865 align:center
David would let me get in bed with him,

00:43:38.365 --> 00:43:39.867 align:center
but he would play giant,

00:43:40.367 --> 00:43:43.412 align:center
where I had to try to steal his pillow

00:43:44.622 --> 00:43:48.417 align:center
while the giant was sleeping,
so it allowed him to continue to sleep.

00:43:48.917 --> 00:43:52.254 align:center
But as I got the pillow just far out,
his arm would come around me,

00:43:52.338 --> 00:43:54.048 align:center
and the giant would capture me.

00:43:54.131 --> 00:43:55.215 align:center
That's who he was.

00:43:57.801 --> 00:44:00.012 align:center
One day, I was at Camp Juaniquita,

00:44:00.095 --> 00:44:04.433 align:center
and I remember waking up depressed.

00:44:06.477 --> 00:44:09.897 align:center
The counselor said,
"Your brother's been in an accident,

00:44:11.398 --> 00:44:12.775 align:center
and it killed him."

00:44:12.858 --> 00:44:14.068 align:center
That's how he put it.

00:44:14.151 --> 00:44:16.820 align:center
And I said, "Is he okay?"

00:44:18.572 --> 00:44:19.865 align:center
"No, it killed him."

00:44:24.745 --> 00:44:27.081 align:center
I mean, it was like nothing made sense.

00:44:27.790 --> 00:44:31.293 align:center
And then I had a dream.

00:44:32.294 --> 00:44:36.674 align:center
And I'm telling you, I can see it
right now, and it was in Technicolor.

00:44:38.217 --> 00:44:42.930 align:center
And I was sitting by a stream
in the woods,

00:44:43.013 --> 00:44:44.556 align:center
and David came up.

00:44:44.640 --> 00:44:46.183 align:center
He looked handsome.

00:44:46.266 --> 00:44:48.644 align:center
He was wearing
this beautiful Ban-Lon shirt.

00:44:49.144 --> 00:44:50.729 align:center
And he said,

00:44:52.648 --> 00:44:56.026 align:center
"I'm fine. Everything is wonderful."

00:44:56.110 --> 00:44:57.778 align:center
"And I'll see you in a minute."

00:44:59.405 --> 00:45:00.948 align:center
And I woke up.

00:45:02.574 --> 00:45:04.451 align:center
And a cloud had lifted.

00:45:10.124 --> 00:45:13.544 align:center
At the funeral, Mom developed a cough.
She started coughing at the funeral.

00:45:14.753 --> 00:45:18.841 align:center
She had had breast cancer in 1957,
which I never knew about.

00:45:19.925 --> 00:45:24.638 align:center
And by the end of that year,
she is really going downhill.

00:45:25.305 --> 00:45:28.851 align:center
Nora tells a story
that she was nursing in California.

00:45:28.934 --> 00:45:30.686 align:center
She knew Mom was going down,

00:45:30.769 --> 00:45:33.439 align:center
so she flew back to be her nurse.

00:45:33.522 --> 00:45:36.692 align:center
And Nora was present
when the doctor came in and said,

00:45:36.775 --> 00:45:38.694 align:center
"Olive, you've got three months to live."

00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:43.449 align:center
And Mom's response was, after he left,

00:45:43.532 --> 00:45:46.243 align:center
"This can't happen.
I have another child to raise."

00:45:46.326 --> 00:45:48.746 align:center
So she said to Nora, "Pass me the grapes."

00:45:48.829 --> 00:45:51.790 align:center
And that became a… a symbol
of courage in our family,

00:45:51.874 --> 00:45:53.167 align:center
"Pass me the grapes."

00:45:56.503 --> 00:45:58.213 align:center
And then she came home

00:45:58.714 --> 00:46:04.386 align:center
and went into this remarkable,
you-can't-explain-it remission,

00:46:05.345 --> 00:46:07.681 align:center
and was in perfect health
for the next two years.

00:46:09.600 --> 00:46:14.146 align:center
But by the time
I was in grade 13, she died.

00:46:18.942 --> 00:46:21.779 align:center
Mom died, and Dad's health went fast.

00:46:22.654 --> 00:46:25.616 align:center
It was just strokes that diminished him,

00:46:26.116 --> 00:46:29.119 align:center
from being the most powerful guy
that walked in the room

00:46:29.203 --> 00:46:31.455 align:center
to just quieter, quieter.

00:46:34.625 --> 00:46:37.961 align:center
He and I took a world cruise
for five weeks, the two of us.

00:46:39.505 --> 00:46:43.383 align:center
But even when we were in Ireland,
he didn't want to see his siblings

00:46:43.926 --> 00:46:46.261 align:center
because he was not in great shape.

00:46:47.596 --> 00:46:49.598 align:center
He had arteriosclerosis.

00:46:50.098 --> 00:46:51.725 align:center
He drank gin and ginger,

00:46:51.808 --> 00:46:55.270 align:center
but it was the two packs of smokes
that he had every day.

00:46:57.898 --> 00:46:59.900 align:center
You had to handle tragedy
when you were a lad.

00:46:59.983 --> 00:47:01.735 align:center
-Right.
-You lost a brother. He died.

00:47:01.819 --> 00:47:04.154 align:center
I lost my brother David when I was 12.

00:47:04.238 --> 00:47:06.782 align:center
My mother when I was 18.
My father when I was 20.

00:47:07.741 --> 00:47:09.910 align:center
Tough, being the youngest
in the family as well.

00:47:09.993 --> 00:47:13.205 align:center
Right. At that age, or any age,
when you lose someone in your family,

00:47:13.288 --> 00:47:15.332 align:center
you have a choice.
You actually have a choice.

00:47:15.415 --> 00:47:16.917 align:center
"How do I handle this?"

00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:19.044 align:center
-This is a life lesson.
-Right.

00:47:19.127 --> 00:47:22.923 align:center
And so, do I… do I collapse?
Do I become defeated forever?

00:47:23.006 --> 00:47:27.010 align:center
Or do I actually kind of learn
that life is short,

00:47:27.094 --> 00:47:30.097 align:center
and have a glass of wine
and laugh and fun,

00:47:30.180 --> 00:47:32.683 align:center
and appreciate these people,
and never let them go?

00:47:32.766 --> 00:47:33.934 align:center
See, that's, I think, the great secret.

00:47:34.017 --> 00:47:37.521 align:center
If you never let them go from your life,
then they're always with your life.

00:47:37.604 --> 00:47:39.898 align:center
Because before you know it,
you know, you'll be with them.

00:47:44.444 --> 00:47:47.656 align:center
My family adores each other to this day.

00:47:50.492 --> 00:47:53.829 align:center
I think Uncle Mike is probably
the most similar to my dad.

00:47:54.621 --> 00:47:56.206 align:center
They worked a lot together.

00:47:56.290 --> 00:47:57.249 align:center
-Ugh!
-What?

00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.002 align:center
Uncle Brian and Aunt Nora,
I think, are a little more alike

00:48:00.085 --> 00:48:03.088 align:center
and probably more like their mother,
a little more sweeter.

00:48:03.797 --> 00:48:07.551 align:center
There's certainly always
the laughter and the jokes.

00:48:10.220 --> 00:48:12.681 align:center
Who do you think
is the meanest one in the family?

00:48:12.764 --> 00:48:15.559 align:center
You. And everyone would agree with that.

00:48:15.642 --> 00:48:18.270 align:center
-You wouldn't even hesitate for a second?
-Not a second.

00:48:18.353 --> 00:48:20.897 align:center
And if you asked Nora,
she'd say, "Michael."

00:48:20.981 --> 00:48:22.482 align:center
Nora has no credibility.

00:48:22.566 --> 00:48:25.152 align:center
-Brian would say the same.
-Brian has no credibility.

00:48:25.235 --> 00:48:27.195 align:center
Okay, so no one has credibility.

00:48:27.279 --> 00:48:30.198 align:center
But the answer is,
you're the most like Dad,

00:48:30.824 --> 00:48:32.659 align:center
and everyone agrees.

00:48:34.536 --> 00:48:36.038 align:center
The four of us get together.

00:48:36.121 --> 00:48:39.708 align:center
We have hilarity, drink rum and Cokes,

00:48:39.791 --> 00:48:43.587 align:center
laugh, insult each other,
and like nothing's changed.

00:48:43.670 --> 00:48:45.172 align:center
Very close family.

00:48:48.091 --> 00:48:51.303 align:center
We used to call it
"Maintaining the merry theme of life."

00:48:51.386 --> 00:48:52.930 align:center
And that was it.

00:48:53.013 --> 00:48:56.224 align:center
And sometimes,
it gets hard to do, you know?

00:48:56.308 --> 00:49:00.479 align:center
But, you know, you have to admire someone
that… that continues to do that.

00:49:00.979 --> 00:49:04.107 align:center
And I think this is why
people, uh, really like Marty so much,

00:49:04.191 --> 00:49:08.111 align:center
'cause he is always trying to maintain
the merry theme of life.

00:49:09.196 --> 00:49:11.323 align:center
-Did you get--
-Yes, it's the four Shorts.

00:49:11.406 --> 00:49:14.034 align:center
-Yes, it's…
-Group… Group hug, group hug.

00:49:14.117 --> 00:49:16.536 align:center
And here we are, Ken, after so many years.

00:49:16.620 --> 00:49:18.080 align:center
-What's she doing?
-I don't know.

00:49:18.163 --> 00:49:20.123 align:center
-Group hug!
-Group hug, group hug, group hug!

00:49:20.207 --> 00:49:23.126 align:center
We all came from the same womb.

00:49:23.210 --> 00:49:26.171 align:center
-Group hug, group hug, group hug!
-Group hug!

00:49:27.255 --> 00:49:29.591 align:center
There once were five,
and now there's only four.

00:49:29.675 --> 00:49:30.717 align:center
Group hug, group hug!

00:49:30.801 --> 00:49:32.386 align:center
Misery, misery…

00:49:32.469 --> 00:49:34.221 align:center
We had a bad eight years.

00:49:34.304 --> 00:49:36.264 align:center
-That was not a good eight years.
-Yeah.

00:49:36.348 --> 00:49:38.183 align:center
We had speed dial to the funeral parlor.

00:49:38.266 --> 00:49:40.644 align:center
-Yes.
-But there were laughs during those years.

00:49:40.727 --> 00:49:42.980 align:center
-Yes.
-But that's the point.

00:49:49.194 --> 00:49:53.031 align:center
We're having trouble breaking through
that wall of conversation, Larry.

00:49:54.366 --> 00:49:56.618 align:center
-Steve might join us for dinner.
-All right.

00:49:58.203 --> 00:50:00.247 align:center
All right, I'll make you coffee.

00:50:03.875 --> 00:50:06.336 align:center
Eleven, twelve,

00:50:08.296 --> 00:50:09.297 align:center
thirteen.

00:50:10.090 --> 00:50:13.885 align:center
As I pour, I'll do
my Richard Burton impersonation. Ready?

00:50:14.636 --> 00:50:15.929 align:center
For God's sake,

00:50:16.596 --> 00:50:19.182 align:center
let us tell sad stories
of the death of kings.

00:50:19.683 --> 00:50:23.770 align:center
How some have been deposed,
some slain in war,

00:50:23.854 --> 00:50:28.775 align:center
some poisoned by their wives,
all murdered.

00:50:29.401 --> 00:50:31.111 align:center
All right. I'm ready, Lawrence.

00:50:35.115 --> 00:50:37.701 align:center
What do you want in your coffee? Mustard?

00:50:38.243 --> 00:50:41.788 align:center
A couple of years ago when you came here,
you were just off of SCTV,

00:50:41.872 --> 00:50:43.665 align:center
then part of Saturday Night Live.

00:50:43.749 --> 00:50:47.127 align:center
The last three or four times
you've been here, you're a leading man.

00:50:47.210 --> 00:50:49.421 align:center
You're in major, big budget films.

00:50:49.921 --> 00:50:52.215 align:center
-Pretty good deal.
-Yeah, it's good. It's good.

00:50:52.299 --> 00:50:57.304 align:center
Although I do feel that it's possible
for it to just end.

00:51:06.271 --> 00:51:09.191 align:center
The first movie I made was Three Amigos.

00:51:12.402 --> 00:51:16.490 align:center
It was equal billing,
but they were two big, big stars.

00:51:18.241 --> 00:51:20.577 align:center
-I'm Lucky Day.
-I'm Ned Nederlander.

00:51:20.660 --> 00:51:22.704 align:center
I'm Dusty Bottoms. Together, we're…

00:51:22.788 --> 00:51:24.831 align:center
The Three Amigos!

00:51:27.793 --> 00:51:29.002 align:center
I was aware of Marty.

00:51:29.086 --> 00:51:31.463 align:center
He was… To me, he was known.

00:51:31.546 --> 00:51:33.882 align:center
He always calls himself "The Cheap Amigo."

00:51:33.965 --> 00:51:37.219 align:center
For people watching who might not know,
I think each of us should say our name.

00:51:37.302 --> 00:51:38.595 align:center
Martin Short.

00:51:41.848 --> 00:51:44.392 align:center
We did bond very quickly over laughter.

00:51:47.687 --> 00:51:50.357 align:center
Now, that was a terrific scene
you just did with me.

00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:52.526 align:center
It was fabulous, and I'll tell you why.

00:51:52.609 --> 00:51:55.654 align:center
It's because you managed
to blend into the background

00:51:55.737 --> 00:51:57.781 align:center
and not stick out
and not try and be funny.

00:51:57.864 --> 00:52:00.742 align:center
That's important when you're in a scene
with me, is to do that.

00:52:00.826 --> 00:52:03.328 align:center
Because if you're out there
trying to be funny,

00:52:03.411 --> 00:52:05.288 align:center
the audience is going to hate you for it.

00:52:05.372 --> 00:52:09.292 align:center
Because I'll be on the screen,
and they'll know my aura will extend out.

00:52:09.376 --> 00:52:12.504 align:center
You don't want to ever interfere
with my aura of comedy.

00:52:12.587 --> 00:52:15.632 align:center
When you're doing the scene with Chevy,
that's when I would go big.

00:52:15.715 --> 00:52:16.758 align:center
Really mug…

00:52:16.842 --> 00:52:22.097 align:center
Mug, big, and try to take.
What is it when you're in a scene with me?

00:52:22.180 --> 00:52:23.890 align:center
Underplay, go into the background.

00:52:23.974 --> 00:52:24.975 align:center
With Chevy?

00:52:25.058 --> 00:52:27.686 align:center
-Mug, mug, mug.
-Great. Terrific. Great.

00:52:27.769 --> 00:52:29.646 align:center
-Thank you, Steve.
-It's okay. Aw.

00:52:29.729 --> 00:52:31.565 align:center
-It's nice. Thank you.
-It's okay.

00:52:35.610 --> 00:52:37.320 align:center
We'd play Scrabble a lot.

00:52:37.404 --> 00:52:39.781 align:center
I remember I passed Chevy
a note that said,

00:52:39.865 --> 00:52:43.368 align:center
"I'll let you ball my wife Nancy
for an E or a Q."

00:52:43.952 --> 00:52:47.706 align:center
And Chevy, that fit into his wheelhouse
of what he thought was funny.

00:52:47.789 --> 00:52:51.167 align:center
He said, "I'm gonna pick you up.
You and I will drive to work every day."

00:52:51.251 --> 00:52:54.129 align:center
And so very quickly, we all bonded.

00:52:56.631 --> 00:52:59.426 align:center
In life, sometimes you hit a green light.

00:53:00.969 --> 00:53:03.388 align:center
And sometimes, for no reason,
it's a red light.

00:53:03.889 --> 00:53:06.266 align:center
Is there something out there
that is really so bad?

00:53:06.349 --> 00:53:08.476 align:center
I can't really recommend Three Amigos.

00:53:13.481 --> 00:53:17.611 align:center
Three Amigos opened second
to Golden Child with Eddie Murphy.

00:53:18.737 --> 00:53:24.201 align:center
But it's become so revered
by, particularly, boys in their forties.

00:53:24.701 --> 00:53:28.997 align:center
It's interesting how he feels
about failures. You know? It, um…

00:53:29.497 --> 00:53:33.460 align:center
Uh, Lorne, Steve, and Marty,

00:53:33.543 --> 00:53:35.712 align:center
if you bring up Three Amigos,

00:53:35.795 --> 00:53:39.132 align:center
only recently will they embrace
that people like it.

00:53:39.216 --> 00:53:42.010 align:center
When I first met Marty
and told him how much it meant to me,

00:53:42.093 --> 00:53:45.513 align:center
he went, "Yeah, but it didn't open.
It lost to Golden Child." Like that.

00:53:46.014 --> 00:53:50.185 align:center
I remember Justin Timberlake telling him
how much Three Amigos meant.

00:53:50.268 --> 00:53:52.187 align:center
Over time, it started to sink in.

00:53:52.270 --> 00:53:57.400 align:center
Like, "Hey, we… we don't remember
that it lost to Golden Child."

00:53:57.484 --> 00:54:00.612 align:center
"We just think it's a great movie
and you need to accept that."

00:54:02.030 --> 00:54:05.742 align:center
But at that time, no one's saying
Marty Short's a movie star.

00:54:05.825 --> 00:54:07.243 align:center
Then we make Innerspace.

00:54:07.327 --> 00:54:09.496 align:center
Innerspace is a very, very good movie.

00:54:12.874 --> 00:54:14.584 align:center
It's testing through the roof.

00:54:15.085 --> 00:54:17.337 align:center
And you don't know anything
about the experiment?

00:54:17.420 --> 00:54:18.380 align:center
What experiment?

00:54:18.463 --> 00:54:20.632 align:center
I've been miniaturized.

00:54:20.715 --> 00:54:24.052 align:center
I was supposed to be injected
into the body of a laboratory rabbit,

00:54:24.135 --> 00:54:26.888 align:center
and somehow, I got inside you instead.

00:54:26.972 --> 00:54:29.516 align:center
And then no one goes to see Innerspace.

00:54:33.561 --> 00:54:35.105 align:center
We make Cross My Heart.

00:54:35.188 --> 00:54:39.943 align:center
If the next five guys
that you go out with are worse than me,

00:54:40.860 --> 00:54:41.987 align:center
will you give me a call?

00:54:50.370 --> 00:54:52.122 align:center
No, I don't think so.

00:54:55.166 --> 00:54:58.211 align:center
I don't know if you've looked
at the receipts of that one.

00:54:58.712 --> 00:55:02.132 align:center
You make movies with a bunch of people
for three months,

00:55:02.215 --> 00:55:03.883 align:center
then you never see them again.

00:55:04.884 --> 00:55:08.388 align:center
You and I made it a determination,
you were the executive producer,

00:55:08.471 --> 00:55:10.974 align:center
that we would continue on
in a relationship.

00:55:11.725 --> 00:55:13.184 align:center
That was 40 years ago.

00:55:14.602 --> 00:55:18.815 align:center
People regret things their whole
life. But I don't ever get that from you.

00:55:18.898 --> 00:55:23.695 align:center
No, I'm… I… I… I kind of adhere
to the, uh, Sinatra lyric…

00:55:23.778 --> 00:55:27.741 align:center
Regrets I've had a few
But then again, too few to mention

00:55:27.824 --> 00:55:30.118 align:center
That's kind of the philosophy
I like to go with.

00:55:32.537 --> 00:55:34.622 align:center
I feed the chickens.

00:55:35.248 --> 00:55:37.417 align:center
And I gather the eggs.

00:55:37.500 --> 00:55:38.710 align:center
Big boat.

00:55:38.793 --> 00:55:39.711 align:center
The big boat?

00:55:39.794 --> 00:55:40.754 align:center
Yeah.

00:55:41.421 --> 00:55:42.297 align:center
Did you hear it?

00:55:42.380 --> 00:55:43.923 align:center
-I hear it.
-Yeah.

00:55:45.633 --> 00:55:50.388 align:center
I remember, in 1987,
Nancy and I bought our house.

00:55:51.264 --> 00:55:54.476 align:center
And it was based on two movies
I was about to make.

00:55:55.060 --> 00:55:57.896 align:center
The second I signed the mortgage,
one movie fell through.

00:56:00.148 --> 00:56:03.151 align:center
I thought, "I don't deserve this."
You know, "I'm 37."

00:56:03.234 --> 00:56:07.280 align:center
"I don't deserve to look at the ocean
from my living room."

00:56:09.074 --> 00:56:12.619 align:center
I'd say to Nancy,
"What if we can't keep this?"

00:56:12.702 --> 00:56:14.788 align:center
"What if we can't sustain it?"

00:56:14.871 --> 00:56:18.375 align:center
She said, "Well, then we'll move."

00:56:18.458 --> 00:56:21.461 align:center
It's like, "We're the… we're the gimmick."

00:56:21.961 --> 00:56:22.837 align:center
Us.

00:56:22.921 --> 00:56:26.299 align:center
And as you can see in his career,
something fails…

00:56:26.383 --> 00:56:27.967 align:center
Sorry, it's the truth.

00:56:28.051 --> 00:56:30.261 align:center
And he just, the next day,
steps right up to the plate

00:56:30.345 --> 00:56:31.846 align:center
and invents something else.

00:56:32.514 --> 00:56:37.143 align:center
In 1992, I did my first
Broadway musical, with Bernadette Peters.

00:56:37.894 --> 00:56:40.522 align:center
-Paula
-That name has a ring to me

00:56:40.605 --> 00:56:44.692 align:center
-I'm gaga over Paula
-I tingle when you sing to me

00:56:44.776 --> 00:56:48.863 align:center
I get complete satisfaction of doing
a great take in front of a camera.

00:56:48.947 --> 00:56:53.618 align:center
But to be in opening night
and finishing a big production number

00:56:53.701 --> 00:56:56.663 align:center
and have the audience cheering,
that's out of the movies.

00:56:56.746 --> 00:57:01.960 align:center
You have a chip on your shoulder
The size of the Empire State

00:57:02.043 --> 00:57:04.796 align:center
How do you get
a Broadway show? How does that happen?

00:57:04.879 --> 00:57:07.590 align:center
Well, the… the…
I was doing a film in San Juan.

00:57:07.674 --> 00:57:10.176 align:center
How does that happen?

00:57:11.094 --> 00:57:13.638 align:center
I sing, for example, but I'm in comedy.

00:57:13.721 --> 00:57:16.558 align:center
If you sing in comedy,
you can't legitimately sing.

00:57:16.641 --> 00:57:19.936 align:center
Because people are waiting
for the sandbag to drop on you.

00:57:20.019 --> 00:57:22.272 align:center
I've seen him before,
but never knew he could sing.

00:57:22.355 --> 00:57:24.524 align:center
-I never knew he could sing.
-I didn't know.

00:57:24.607 --> 00:57:25.942 align:center
I knew it all along.

00:57:26.442 --> 00:57:28.027 align:center
The world finds out tonight.

00:57:28.111 --> 00:57:29.446 align:center
It's gonna change your life.

00:57:29.529 --> 00:57:32.407 align:center
Well, it's certainly a dream
I always had wanted to do.

00:57:32.490 --> 00:57:36.536 align:center
I think that, uh, every actor has to do
a stage experience in New York

00:57:36.619 --> 00:57:39.497 align:center
or he's not truly, truly fulfilled
as an actor.

00:57:42.333 --> 00:57:47.589 align:center
There are so, um, many, many people
that I… I really must thank

00:57:47.672 --> 00:57:49.799 align:center
and should, but

00:57:50.550 --> 00:57:53.845 align:center
the reality is I did it all myself.

00:57:56.556 --> 00:57:58.892 align:center
He has a new motion picture,
uh, opening up now

00:57:58.975 --> 00:58:02.270 align:center
all over the country with Steve Martin,
entitled Father of the Bride.

00:58:02.353 --> 00:58:03.354 align:center
Martin…

00:58:04.647 --> 00:58:06.608 align:center
People tell me
you're a standout in this film.

00:58:06.691 --> 00:58:08.318 align:center
That you steal the motion picture.

00:58:08.401 --> 00:58:11.654 align:center
Well, no, I wouldn't say that's true,
but it's a very funny film.

00:58:11.738 --> 00:58:14.073 align:center
Uh, how would you describe
Father of the Bride?

00:58:14.157 --> 00:58:16.493 align:center
-Well, I think it's a touching film.
-Uh-huh.

00:58:16.576 --> 00:58:20.622 align:center
I think it's a comic film. I think it has
very moving emotional moments.

00:58:20.705 --> 00:58:24.042 align:center
And it has the high comedy,
and it has the low comedy.

00:58:24.125 --> 00:58:26.127 align:center
Hello!

00:58:26.211 --> 00:58:29.339 align:center
I apologize for keeping you waiting.
I'm Franck. A pleasure to meet you.

00:58:30.465 --> 00:58:33.426 align:center
It's another example of being so extreme,

00:58:34.177 --> 00:58:35.637 align:center
and pulling it off.

00:58:36.262 --> 00:58:37.972 align:center
The idea was that Franck

00:58:38.056 --> 00:58:42.185 align:center
symbolized for Steve Martin
his alienation from the process.

00:58:43.186 --> 00:58:46.105 align:center
We have problem.
Hanck does not now want to prep a chicken.

00:58:46.189 --> 00:58:47.482 align:center
He doesn't what?

00:58:47.565 --> 00:58:50.693 align:center
Kimberly Williams and Diane
could understand him,

00:58:50.777 --> 00:58:51.903 align:center
and I couldn't.

00:58:52.403 --> 00:58:55.740 align:center
But to what degree? What degree?

00:58:56.449 --> 00:58:57.533 align:center
Start.

00:58:57.617 --> 00:58:59.285 align:center
You have not made up your list yet,

00:58:59.369 --> 00:59:02.664 align:center
but you know you want a wedding
at home on January 6th, right?

00:59:02.747 --> 00:59:05.750 align:center
The executives, they were apprehensive
about this character.

00:59:05.833 --> 00:59:09.337 align:center
You have not made up your list yet,
but you want a wedding at home on January…

00:59:09.420 --> 00:59:11.673 align:center
And we would keep dialing it down.

00:59:12.257 --> 00:59:14.300 align:center
So... you have not made up your list yet,

00:59:14.384 --> 00:59:17.512 align:center
but you know you want a wedding
at home on January 6th, right?

00:59:17.595 --> 00:59:18.680 align:center
Finally, I remember Steve saying,

00:59:18.763 --> 00:59:21.849 align:center
"Guys, there's no joke here.
I understand it perfectly."

00:59:21.933 --> 00:59:24.811 align:center
Please, with all due respect,
welcome to the '90s.

00:59:29.607 --> 00:59:33.194 align:center
You can't understand anything you say.
Are you saying anything when you speak?

00:59:33.278 --> 00:59:36.239 align:center
I said to Charles,
it's fabulous to be here, you know.

00:59:36.322 --> 00:59:37.865 align:center
You look very handsome in the tie.

00:59:37.949 --> 00:59:40.451 align:center
I wouldn't go with that color tie,
but that shirt's nice.

00:59:40.535 --> 00:59:41.369 align:center
Right.

00:59:41.452 --> 00:59:43.997 align:center
Now, Steve plays the father of the bride,

00:59:44.080 --> 00:59:47.500 align:center
and, uh, do you like Steve
more than you like me?

00:59:48.126 --> 00:59:49.711 align:center
I'll… I'll tell you this,

00:59:49.794 --> 00:59:53.339 align:center
and, um, this is going to make me
sound shallow, and it shouldn't

00:59:53.423 --> 00:59:55.591 align:center
because if it is,
then I'm being misinterpreted.

00:59:55.675 --> 00:59:58.177 align:center
Steve can do more for me than you.

00:59:59.429 --> 01:00:02.598 align:center
Can you just act like a human boy
for one minute here?

01:00:03.182 --> 01:00:04.726 align:center
Look at me like a person.

01:00:05.226 --> 01:00:08.646 align:center
You can't do it for more than a few
seconds. Look at me like a human boy!

01:00:09.147 --> 01:00:10.440 align:center
Don't mess around with me.

01:00:11.024 --> 01:00:12.817 align:center
You're gonna be back on that plane.

01:00:13.609 --> 01:00:14.694 align:center
You understand me?

01:00:15.194 --> 01:00:17.238 align:center
I understand that I love you.

01:00:17.739 --> 01:00:20.366 align:center
I was 40 when I played
a ten-year-old named Clifford.

01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:23.745 align:center
Marty Short is a great actor,

01:00:23.828 --> 01:00:25.705 align:center
and because he does comedic characters,

01:00:25.788 --> 01:00:27.832 align:center
possibly people don't recognize
that as much,

01:00:27.915 --> 01:00:30.418 align:center
but, you know,
comedic characters aren't easier.

01:00:30.501 --> 01:00:31.544 align:center
They're harder.

01:00:33.421 --> 01:00:35.923 align:center
Are you…
are you a comedian who acts, Martin,

01:00:36.007 --> 01:00:38.343 align:center
or are you an actor who likes comedy?

01:00:38.426 --> 01:00:41.554 align:center
I guess I'm an actor who does comedy,

01:00:42.472 --> 01:00:44.557 align:center
or anything you have.

01:00:45.683 --> 01:00:48.227 align:center
Kind of impatient
for a big-time headshrinker, aren't you?

01:00:49.228 --> 01:00:51.272 align:center
How about you let me explain it
my way, okay?

01:00:51.356 --> 01:00:52.857 align:center
Thanks, that'd be great.

01:00:53.358 --> 01:00:55.860 align:center
What makes a movie attractive to you?

01:00:55.943 --> 01:00:57.528 align:center
It's not the money…

01:00:57.612 --> 01:00:59.781 align:center
Mm-hmm. It's money.

01:01:01.699 --> 01:01:03.326 align:center
May I have the camera, please?

01:01:04.786 --> 01:01:05.953 align:center
Yeah, sure, boss.

01:01:07.246 --> 01:01:12.335 align:center
Well over 90% of my career
was a total and utter commercial failure.

01:01:13.002 --> 01:01:17.507 align:center
But I was in enough successful things
to keep the wheels spinning.

01:01:17.590 --> 01:01:20.593 align:center
You mean they can read our thoughts?

01:01:20.676 --> 01:01:22.303 align:center
I don't know you.

01:01:22.387 --> 01:01:23.513 align:center
I don't know your work.

01:01:24.097 --> 01:01:27.475 align:center
But I think that you are
a very, very talented young man,

01:01:27.558 --> 01:01:29.560 align:center
and I'm never wrong about these things.

01:01:30.603 --> 01:01:32.397 align:center
I… I've never had a big game plan.

01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:36.567 align:center
I… I've never been
necessarily commercially, uh, savvy.

01:01:37.318 --> 01:01:38.152 align:center
Asshole.

01:01:38.236 --> 01:01:39.570 align:center
Yes?

01:01:39.654 --> 01:01:40.947 align:center
I've had lots of things fail.

01:01:41.030 --> 01:01:42.365 align:center
I've never then looked in the mirror
and said,

01:01:42.448 --> 01:01:45.284 align:center
"I am not worthy.
I've been… I've been put in my place."

01:01:45.368 --> 01:01:47.870 align:center
You are actually a predator.

01:01:48.871 --> 01:01:50.832 align:center
People are gonna want you to own that.

01:01:55.253 --> 01:01:56.963 align:center
As opposed to…

01:01:59.257 --> 01:02:01.426 align:center
What are you exactly, Mitch?

01:02:02.009 --> 01:02:07.056 align:center
I think it's insane if someone says, "Oh,
I had a horrible time making that movie."

01:02:07.140 --> 01:02:10.560 align:center
"I hated making that movie,
but please let it be successful."

01:02:10.643 --> 01:02:13.521 align:center
If it's only gonna be successful
at the box office,

01:02:13.604 --> 01:02:15.773 align:center
that's very unlikely.

01:02:16.357 --> 01:02:20.194 align:center
The experience you can have in your soul
is the experience of doing it.

01:02:20.278 --> 01:02:23.823 align:center
Was it creative? Was it fun?
Did you have fun dinners?

01:02:23.906 --> 01:02:25.950 align:center
Was the hang good?

01:02:27.326 --> 01:02:28.286 align:center
What's that?

01:02:28.369 --> 01:02:29.662 align:center
Aha!

01:02:29.745 --> 01:02:33.458 align:center
Entertainment tonight!

01:02:33.541 --> 01:02:37.545 align:center
Entertainment tonight!

01:02:53.561 --> 01:02:56.606 align:center
We're staging a breakfast.
I've already eaten.

01:02:57.899 --> 01:03:00.026 align:center
Oh my God, am I hungry.

01:03:01.319 --> 01:03:03.279 align:center
Famished.

01:03:03.988 --> 01:03:05.364 align:center
Oh boy.

01:03:07.867 --> 01:03:09.702 align:center
Mm, it's so good.

01:03:15.958 --> 01:03:17.293 align:center
It's Snug Harbour,

01:03:17.376 --> 01:03:20.838 align:center
and I'm having my first
vodka tonic of the season.

01:03:21.339 --> 01:03:23.883 align:center
For, you see,
it's the first day of summer.

01:03:23.966 --> 01:03:25.635 align:center
I s… I s…

01:03:26.135 --> 01:03:27.094 align:center
I say…

01:03:27.637 --> 01:03:30.139 align:center
I… I say
it's the first day of summer, Henry.

01:03:30.223 --> 01:03:32.350 align:center
-Are you happy to be here, Daddy?
-Yes.

01:03:33.476 --> 01:03:36.938 align:center
Our fabulous cottage
that we own in Canada…

01:03:37.021 --> 01:03:38.564 align:center
Mom, watch how high I go.

01:03:38.648 --> 01:03:40.608 align:center
…was bought by Nancy,

01:03:41.108 --> 01:03:43.194 align:center
sight unseen by me.

01:03:43.277 --> 01:03:44.904 align:center
And those are the children.

01:03:45.738 --> 01:03:47.740 align:center
I remember standing at the counter

01:03:47.823 --> 01:03:50.076 align:center
while she told Marty
that she had bought the cottage.

01:03:51.035 --> 01:03:52.912 align:center
I said, "Nancy, has he seen the cottage?"

01:03:52.995 --> 01:03:54.539 align:center
"No, he hasn't seen it."

01:03:54.622 --> 01:03:58.835 align:center
And I'm thinking, "God, I…
Could I do that? Maybe I should do that."

01:04:00.378 --> 01:04:01.921 align:center
I always did whatever Nancy told me.

01:04:02.004 --> 01:04:03.464 align:center
That's part of Nancy's character.

01:04:03.548 --> 01:04:06.926 align:center
"Larry, why don't you go get those,
and pick them up and bring them here?"

01:04:07.009 --> 01:04:10.388 align:center
"Yes, Nancy." Wouldn't you just do
whatever she told you to do?

01:04:10.888 --> 01:04:14.141 align:center
She had such… loving authority.

01:04:15.142 --> 01:04:16.936 align:center
Hey, say something funny.

01:04:17.019 --> 01:04:19.063 align:center
Oh… Oh, uh…

01:04:19.564 --> 01:04:21.315 align:center
Here… Here with the guys…

01:04:25.570 --> 01:04:28.364 align:center
It is one of those places
that when you come here,

01:04:28.447 --> 01:04:32.493 align:center
even if you haven't been here for a year,
you feel like you haven't left.

01:04:34.203 --> 01:04:37.415 align:center
I always thought it was like
if heaven existed,

01:04:38.040 --> 01:04:42.962 align:center
then maybe heaven is
your favorite place in eternity.

01:04:44.505 --> 01:04:46.632 align:center
And that would be this place.

01:04:51.220 --> 01:04:52.722 align:center
There's Meg Kasdan.

01:04:53.222 --> 01:04:54.348 align:center
Let go, Ollie.

01:04:54.432 --> 01:04:55.725 align:center
Hi, Marty.

01:04:55.808 --> 01:04:59.645 align:center
-Hello. Welcome to Snug Harbour.
-Thank you. It's quite fabulous.

01:04:59.729 --> 01:05:01.731 align:center
And there, of course,

01:05:02.899 --> 01:05:04.025 align:center
Larry Kasdan.

01:05:04.108 --> 01:05:05.234 align:center
Hello, Martin.

01:05:05.318 --> 01:05:06.444 align:center
Hi, Lar.

01:05:06.527 --> 01:05:10.448 align:center
It's so great here. Congratulations
to you on this fabulous place.

01:05:10.531 --> 01:05:14.160 align:center
Thank you. Well, I couldn't
have done it without Cross My Heart.

01:05:15.286 --> 01:05:17.705 align:center
Well, I feel re…

01:05:17.788 --> 01:05:19.415 align:center
Responsible for some of it.

01:05:23.085 --> 01:05:27.214 align:center
From the moment that you get there,
it's full-on Marty's world.

01:05:35.973 --> 01:05:38.809 align:center
Excuse me, Andrea.
What are you playing, kids?

01:05:38.893 --> 01:05:39.852 align:center
Monopoly.

01:05:40.853 --> 01:05:42.188 align:center
Burgers on the barbecue.

01:05:42.271 --> 01:05:45.107 align:center
We got some Canadian produce
being cut up in the kitchen

01:05:45.191 --> 01:05:49.695 align:center
that Catherine O'Hara
is graciously preparing.

01:05:49.779 --> 01:05:50.696 align:center
Wow.

01:05:50.780 --> 01:05:51.656 align:center
Welcome...

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Oh, thank you so much
for letting us enjoy…

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-to Dolshor Manor.
-…the beauty of Snug Harbour.

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It is good.
Does your agent know you're here?

01:06:02.875 --> 01:06:06.754 align:center
Oh, my agent's not interested
in where I am at any time.

01:06:08.923 --> 01:06:10.925 align:center
Have you had any pie
since you've been here?

01:06:11.008 --> 01:06:12.051 align:center
Lots of pie, yeah.

01:06:12.134 --> 01:06:14.971 align:center
-I… I don't…
-Well, I'm... I look like Gleason.

01:06:15.680 --> 01:06:19.266 align:center
And he gives you this drink
that he found in Jamaica.

01:06:20.059 --> 01:06:24.188 align:center
Ting. Now I'm gonna make you a drink.

01:06:24.689 --> 01:06:25.606 align:center
Ow.

01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:29.527 align:center
Oh, yeah. That's right.
You have an alcohol problem.

01:06:30.027 --> 01:06:30.945 align:center
There we go.

01:06:31.028 --> 01:06:32.738 align:center
We use the ice.

01:06:32.822 --> 01:06:35.616 align:center
And by the way,
I feel that bathing is for suckers,

01:06:35.700 --> 01:06:37.618 align:center
so I haven't washed these for a while.

01:06:37.702 --> 01:06:39.328 align:center
Then you open the Ting.

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Ooh. Ooh.

01:06:45.209 --> 01:06:47.503 align:center
Ooh. There you go.

01:06:56.679 --> 01:06:59.432 align:center
This is my little girl. My little…

01:06:59.932 --> 01:07:01.434 align:center
Come on, Tom. Yes.

01:07:01.517 --> 01:07:02.435 align:center
-Sixty…
-73!

01:07:02.518 --> 01:07:05.604 align:center
Sixty-nine! O sixty-nine!

01:07:06.772 --> 01:07:09.775 align:center
Oh, Marty. Me with my extra weight.

01:07:10.609 --> 01:07:12.028 align:center
Try not to hit it too hard.

01:07:12.111 --> 01:07:13.904 align:center
Hello? Hi.

01:07:13.988 --> 01:07:16.157 align:center
Yes, it's Snug '96.

01:07:16.240 --> 01:07:18.242 align:center
-What happened, honey?
-I don't know. It's my groin.

01:07:18.325 --> 01:07:19.952 align:center
Must be something I did last night.

01:07:22.455 --> 01:07:24.331 align:center
-Oh boy.
-There she goes.

01:07:25.791 --> 01:07:29.128 align:center
He's the most connected man
here in Hollywood.

01:07:29.628 --> 01:07:34.800 align:center
He knows everybody from the top
to the very bottom of the top.

01:07:38.220 --> 01:07:40.139 align:center
We're as happy as we've ever been.

01:07:41.766 --> 01:07:43.726 align:center
This is our eldest son, Tom.

01:07:44.560 --> 01:07:47.104 align:center
Tom, are you ever gonna get a job?

01:07:47.188 --> 01:07:50.232 align:center
Uh-uh, Daddy.
I just love the Canadian woods.

01:07:51.275 --> 01:07:52.902 align:center
We love him, though.

01:07:53.569 --> 01:07:57.948 align:center
When we first met Marty,
he got up and did a Tony Bennett imitation

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of singing
"I Left My Heart in San Francisco."

01:08:00.826 --> 01:08:03.829 align:center
I had that moment of realizing

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I'm gonna hang around with this guy
at every opportunity I… I can muster.

01:08:09.543 --> 01:08:10.669 align:center
Tommy!

01:08:11.754 --> 01:08:13.172 align:center
I love when you mug.

01:08:13.255 --> 01:08:15.216 align:center
Our kids were the same age,

01:08:15.299 --> 01:08:20.971 align:center
so we would do
these big family barbecues and dinners.

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And we would just hang out together

01:08:23.224 --> 01:08:27.103 align:center
because, I mean, who doesn't want
to be around Marty anyway?

01:08:30.898 --> 01:08:34.151 align:center
-Anyone gonna like some red wine?
-I'd love some.

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We were in similar points in our lives.

01:08:36.403 --> 01:08:37.988 align:center
-Mm-hmm. Yeah, we were.
-Yeah.

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We have Miss Nancy Short.

01:08:39.824 --> 01:08:41.408 align:center
Happy Mom's Day, Kate.

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A mom that I truly admire.
And we have Oliver.

01:08:45.412 --> 01:08:46.747 align:center
Mr. Henry Short.

01:08:47.248 --> 01:08:50.709 align:center
Tom and I go way back with Rita and Kate.

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We all had kids of the same age.
That was a big deal.

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So a lot of times,
you just work it some way,

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"Let's throw these rugrats all together
so maybe we can have a conversation."

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I think all of us together probably had,

01:09:05.850 --> 01:09:08.644 align:center
I don't know, 17, 15…
It was a lot of kids.

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Pass that to me.

01:09:10.604 --> 01:09:15.317 align:center
I think the real tell about Marty's heart
is how much my kids love Marty.

01:09:15.818 --> 01:09:17.236 align:center
And from very, very young ages,

01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:19.697 align:center
how my kids just wanted to be with Marty,

01:09:19.780 --> 01:09:22.408 align:center
wanted to walk over during a dinner
and sit with Marty

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and talk to Marty and show off for Marty.

01:09:24.869 --> 01:09:26.537 align:center
Take that off you, Sawyer!

01:09:26.620 --> 01:09:29.415 align:center
-That's mine!
-Now wait a second. Lucy, Ethel?

01:09:29.498 --> 01:09:31.417 align:center
Lucy! Ethel!

01:09:31.500 --> 01:09:33.210 align:center
I will still be… Oh!

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Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da
If you're ever…

01:09:36.046 --> 01:09:37.673 align:center
That's exactly what Ricky did.

01:09:38.507 --> 01:09:40.217 align:center
Who must they love, darling?

01:09:40.301 --> 01:09:42.720 align:center
It is my birthday, don't you see?

01:09:42.803 --> 01:09:45.931 align:center
Well, my request is "Love only me."

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Not your stupid parents.

01:09:49.602 --> 01:09:51.353 align:center
Tom and Rita.

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Boring!

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And Steven and Kate.
Been there, done that.

01:10:00.196 --> 01:10:03.574 align:center
He holds friendship right after family
as the most important thing.

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We're talking about a dynamic
that is not easy to pull off,

01:10:08.662 --> 01:10:14.001 align:center
where I'm best friends with the men,
and Steven's best friends with the women.

01:10:14.084 --> 01:10:16.253 align:center
-So it made it really…
-Mm-hmm.

01:10:16.337 --> 01:10:19.423 align:center
Didn't you make a movie about that, Larry?

01:10:19.924 --> 01:10:22.384 align:center
Marty! Marty! Come on,
you gotta do this dance.

01:10:28.682 --> 01:10:29.808 align:center
Now just like…

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I could never keep up with the repartee

01:10:33.354 --> 01:10:37.650 align:center
between Tom and Marty and Walter.

01:10:37.733 --> 01:10:41.528 align:center
So what I resorted to was my video camera.

01:10:41.612 --> 01:10:44.865 align:center
These are the bloody footprints
from the last dive.

01:10:44.949 --> 01:10:46.408 align:center
Look at the evidence.

01:10:46.492 --> 01:10:48.702 align:center
Marty and Tom got this idea.

01:10:48.786 --> 01:10:53.082 align:center
"Hey, let's do that scene
from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid."

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This is very sad, I must say,
'cause we're gonna be killed, you know.

01:10:59.964 --> 01:11:02.216 align:center
Just get ready to shoot the bad guys.

01:11:02.299 --> 01:11:05.177 align:center
There's only one way out.
So we should jump, I must say.

01:11:05.260 --> 01:11:06.887 align:center
I know, we'll get shot.

01:11:06.971 --> 01:11:07.930 align:center
So let's go.

01:11:09.807 --> 01:11:11.517 align:center
-I'll jump first.
-Nope.

01:11:12.059 --> 01:11:13.477 align:center
-Then you jump first.
-No, I said!

01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:16.146 align:center
-What's the matter with you?
-I can't swim!

01:11:24.029 --> 01:11:27.074 align:center
What, are you crazy?
The fall will probably kill ya.

01:11:27.157 --> 01:11:31.996 align:center
Mama always said jumping off cliffs
is like a box of chocolates.

01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:35.040 align:center
-You never know what you might get.
-...might get. Yeah, you're right.

01:11:35.124 --> 01:11:37.668 align:center
-Come on, Forrest.
-I can't swim.

01:11:40.045 --> 01:11:41.588 align:center
Oh, that's very funny.

01:11:41.672 --> 01:11:45.050 align:center
For heaven's sakes,
the fall will kill us, I must say.

01:11:47.011 --> 01:11:48.971 align:center
Oh shit!

01:11:49.054 --> 01:11:51.765 align:center
-Oh shit!
-Oh shit!

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Now we go out and about with Jiminy Glick.

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We have a wonderful full-fledged icon
to interview.

01:12:08.991 --> 01:12:11.493 align:center
Steven Spielberg's with us. Hi, Steven.

01:12:11.577 --> 01:12:14.413 align:center
-Hello, Jiminy, nice to see you.
-Have you won an Oscar?

01:12:14.913 --> 01:12:16.498 align:center
-Yes, sir.
-How come?

01:12:17.082 --> 01:12:21.003 align:center
And then… And you've made so many films.
When are you gonna do the big one?

01:12:22.004 --> 01:12:24.965 align:center
Wow. How… What do you mean, big one?

01:12:25.049 --> 01:12:27.134 align:center
Something that clicks with the public.

01:12:27.217 --> 01:12:29.595 align:center
Yeah. I'd love to see it
'cause I think you're good.

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Jiminy Glick, a legend in his own mind.

01:12:34.058 --> 01:12:36.894 align:center
An interviewer far beyond interviewers.

01:12:36.977 --> 01:12:40.272 align:center
He asks questions nobody wants to answer.

01:12:40.773 --> 01:12:42.608 align:center
-Would you like a donut?
-I would love a donut.

01:12:44.276 --> 01:12:45.778 align:center
Oh!

01:12:45.861 --> 01:12:47.488 align:center
Stupid COVID!

01:12:47.571 --> 01:12:48.655 align:center
Here you go.

01:12:48.739 --> 01:12:53.786 align:center
You know, the premise is bad interviewer
who doesn't know much about the person.

01:12:53.869 --> 01:12:55.913 align:center
You're confusing me
with the actor Michael Keaton,

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who is an acquaintance of mine,
who is also a very good actor.

01:12:58.207 --> 01:13:01.919 align:center
In fact, your styles are totally different
because Keaton is very realistic.

01:13:02.503 --> 01:13:05.589 align:center
And you tend to do
that kind of, "Oh, say what?"

01:13:05.672 --> 01:13:08.425 align:center
Which is wonderful.
Hold on, please. Someone's…

01:13:08.926 --> 01:13:09.802 align:center
Hello?

01:13:10.594 --> 01:13:11.637 align:center
Oh, hi, Dixie.

01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:15.182 align:center
He can be that fearless
in saying negative things

01:13:15.265 --> 01:13:17.101 align:center
that are close to home,

01:13:17.184 --> 01:13:20.104 align:center
and the people he's interviewing
can be laughing.

01:13:20.187 --> 01:13:21.730 align:center
Just 'cause the eyes are so dull

01:13:21.814 --> 01:13:25.943 align:center
doesn't mean that there's not
a machinery of wheels clicking away.

01:13:26.026 --> 01:13:27.903 align:center
I was hoping for an A-lister,

01:13:27.986 --> 01:13:31.240 align:center
but I'm thrilled to have you, Bill… Hader.

01:13:31.323 --> 01:13:34.618 align:center
-It's not really a star's name, is it?
-No.

01:13:34.701 --> 01:13:37.704 align:center
-No, like Leo DiCaprio captures you.
-Yes. That's true.

01:13:37.788 --> 01:13:40.624 align:center
But Bill Hader sounds like a guy
who would do inside windows.

01:13:42.084 --> 01:13:45.921 align:center
You really see what Marty thinks
of a career in show business.

01:13:46.004 --> 01:13:48.382 align:center
-When does the film come out?
-July 11th.

01:13:48.465 --> 01:13:49.842 align:center
Oh, I'm gonna be away.

01:13:49.925 --> 01:13:52.136 align:center
You get a lot of bad reviews.

01:13:52.219 --> 01:13:55.889 align:center
How does that make you feel
and how do you handle it, Steve Martin?

01:13:55.973 --> 01:13:58.308 align:center
Well, first of all, you know,
a lot of people get bad reviews.

01:13:58.392 --> 01:14:00.227 align:center
Charlie Chaplin got bad reviews.

01:14:00.310 --> 01:14:01.437 align:center
Mm-mm.

01:14:02.020 --> 01:14:03.522 align:center
Buster Keaton got bad reviews.

01:14:03.605 --> 01:14:07.401 align:center
No, not really.
Not… not… not on the level you get them.

01:14:07.901 --> 01:14:11.113 align:center
I was always fascinated
by morons with power.

01:14:11.196 --> 01:14:14.741 align:center
You flip around daytime television,
and there's a person with a show.

01:14:14.825 --> 01:14:17.202 align:center
They've got assistants,
and that assistant's sweating

01:14:17.286 --> 01:14:19.580 align:center
because their tuna fish sandwich was late.

01:14:19.663 --> 01:14:22.040 align:center
And, "What kind of tuna fish is this?"

01:14:22.124 --> 01:14:23.417 align:center
Wonderful. Call you back.

01:14:23.500 --> 01:14:26.587 align:center
-Hi. Leah, and how are you doing?
-How are you today, Mr. Glick?

01:14:26.670 --> 01:14:29.923 align:center
Yellow highlighters I don't like
because they're not fun.

01:14:30.007 --> 01:14:32.593 align:center
I wanted to create a character
who would go to junkets.

01:14:33.510 --> 01:14:35.137 align:center
I'd made a film called Pure Luck

01:14:35.220 --> 01:14:38.891 align:center
where I was stung by a bee
and I had a reaction.

01:14:39.516 --> 01:14:43.020 align:center
And I remember Nancy was on the set,
saying, "I cannot see you in there."

01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:44.980 align:center
And I loved that.

01:14:45.063 --> 01:14:46.773 align:center
And the Emmys were coming up.

01:14:47.274 --> 01:14:48.650 align:center
Hi, this is Jiminy Glick

01:14:48.734 --> 01:14:50.736 align:center
of Jiminy Glick's Lalawood.

01:14:50.819 --> 01:14:53.572 align:center
And I am so excited
to be at the Emmy Awards.

01:14:53.655 --> 01:14:57.576 align:center
I wanted to go out and honestly…
And not be seen as myself.

01:14:57.659 --> 01:15:00.245 align:center
I'm talking with John Legworth… Lig… Lock…

01:15:00.329 --> 01:15:02.039 align:center
-John. Just John.
-Lockwo…

01:15:02.122 --> 01:15:03.540 align:center
You used to do circus work.

01:15:03.624 --> 01:15:05.125 align:center
I was a freak for a while.

01:15:05.209 --> 01:15:07.669 align:center
And often people wear stilts doing that,
but you didn't need them.

01:15:07.753 --> 01:15:10.589 align:center
I didn't need them.
I'm a big, gangly freak. And what…

01:15:11.173 --> 01:15:13.592 align:center
That tastes actually nice. What's on that?

01:15:13.675 --> 01:15:16.512 align:center
It's great to see you again.
You look like you've lost a lot of weight.

01:15:16.595 --> 01:15:19.348 align:center
Well, I've had liposuction
from every possible opening.

01:15:19.431 --> 01:15:23.852 align:center
I feel like he could improvise
Jiminy Glick to eternity.

01:15:23.936 --> 01:15:24.895 align:center
Couldn't he?

01:15:24.978 --> 01:15:26.438 align:center
-You…
-Yes?

01:15:26.522 --> 01:15:27.648 align:center
…are a special spirit.

01:15:27.731 --> 01:15:29.816 align:center
Thank you very much.

01:15:29.900 --> 01:15:31.985 align:center
Oh, I hadn't heard the laugh yet.

01:15:32.486 --> 01:15:35.572 align:center
He's got his highs,
and then he's got his lows.

01:15:36.073 --> 01:15:41.078 align:center
And he never fails
to come up with the right word

01:15:41.161 --> 01:15:44.164 align:center
when he hits his lows.

01:15:44.248 --> 01:15:46.583 align:center
You know? Kinko-Belobo.

01:15:46.667 --> 01:15:48.418 align:center
Oh my God, I don't think that's true.

01:15:48.502 --> 01:15:50.545 align:center
It's real Dada entertainment.

01:15:50.629 --> 01:15:54.383 align:center
It's real, like, this is all bullshit,

01:15:54.466 --> 01:15:58.554 align:center
and our career is
sitting across from a buffoon like this.

01:15:58.637 --> 01:16:00.472 align:center
-Thanks.
-Interview over, man. Done deal.

01:16:00.556 --> 01:16:02.182 align:center
Oh my God.

01:16:02.266 --> 01:16:03.892 align:center
Someone phone a replacement.

01:16:03.976 --> 01:16:06.562 align:center
It's a really punk rock character.

01:16:07.145 --> 01:16:09.565 align:center
What's your big beef with the Nazis?

01:16:10.566 --> 01:16:12.109 align:center
What's my big beef?

01:16:12.192 --> 01:16:15.112 align:center
-It seems you're always knocking--
-What's my big beef?

01:16:15.195 --> 01:16:17.030 align:center
You're always knocking the Nazis.
"Oh, let's…"

01:16:17.114 --> 01:16:21.159 align:center
It's… it's time for Mel Brooks
to knock the Nazis, it seems.

01:16:21.660 --> 01:16:23.495 align:center
You don't want the headlines, do you?

01:16:23.579 --> 01:16:26.498 align:center
I don't want it, and yet,
when I'm home and I see…

01:16:26.581 --> 01:16:27.416 align:center
When I'm--

01:16:28.709 --> 01:16:30.961 align:center
But there's such subtlety

01:16:32.004 --> 01:16:33.338 align:center
with… with Jiminy too.

01:16:33.422 --> 01:16:36.341 align:center
That soft side, that empathetic side,

01:16:36.425 --> 01:16:38.802 align:center
and… and just the… the levels.

01:16:38.885 --> 01:16:41.888 align:center
Every level of comedy
is there with Jiminy.

01:16:41.972 --> 01:16:44.975 align:center
You have to keep constantly
making it interesting for yourself.

01:16:45.058 --> 01:16:47.603 align:center
What you have to do is just say,
"This will be fun to me."

01:16:47.686 --> 01:16:50.480 align:center
"I look forward to doing this.
This will make me want to work."

01:16:50.564 --> 01:16:53.442 align:center
"I wanna show my friends this show."
That's what you want to do.

01:16:53.942 --> 01:16:56.445 align:center
This has been absolutely so much fun.

01:16:56.528 --> 01:17:01.325 align:center
This is the craziest fucking interview
I've ever done in my life.

01:17:08.999 --> 01:17:12.461 align:center
It's Christmas 2003.

01:17:13.670 --> 01:17:17.090 align:center
Fourteen-year-old Henry Short
has done the tree basically this year.

01:17:17.841 --> 01:17:18.842 align:center
Yeah, looks good.

01:17:19.343 --> 01:17:20.969 align:center
-Like that?
-Uh-huh.

01:17:22.387 --> 01:17:23.722 align:center
We always have a Christmas party
at our house,

01:17:23.805 --> 01:17:25.265 align:center
and people get up and perform.

01:17:25.349 --> 01:17:30.896 align:center
It's the most wonderful time
Of the year

01:17:32.272 --> 01:17:35.776 align:center
It's the hap… happiest season of all

01:17:35.859 --> 01:17:37.152 align:center
Is anybody else here?

01:17:37.652 --> 01:17:40.656 align:center
Marty, who's doing his thing
to open the show,

01:17:40.739 --> 01:17:45.202 align:center
and then commenting on what you did
when you left,

01:17:45.285 --> 01:17:47.037 align:center
as if you didn't feel bad enough.

01:17:47.120 --> 01:17:48.789 align:center
Who remembers Home Alone?

01:17:50.832 --> 01:17:52.793 align:center
And I'm sure there's been others.

01:18:01.760 --> 01:18:05.097 align:center
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Danny Aykroyd.

01:18:05.597 --> 01:18:07.474 align:center
And I'm Glenn Frey, the happy Eagle.

01:18:08.975 --> 01:18:11.353 align:center
The bells will be ringin'…

01:18:12.729 --> 01:18:15.774 align:center
The sad, sad news

01:18:16.775 --> 01:18:18.151 align:center
Sally Field, ladies and gentlemen.

01:18:18.819 --> 01:18:20.237 align:center
-Oh!
-There we go.

01:18:22.155 --> 01:18:23.240 align:center
There we go.

01:18:23.323 --> 01:18:24.950 align:center
Sally Field, ladies and gentlemen.

01:18:25.033 --> 01:18:28.829 align:center
Well, we have the ultimate jerk here.
Steve Martin is with us.

01:18:29.329 --> 01:18:31.248 align:center
It was a little bit of work.

01:18:31.331 --> 01:18:35.460 align:center
One time, I spent six months learning
how to play "Auld Lang Syne" on the banjo.

01:18:35.544 --> 01:18:38.171 align:center
Well, now, I gotta think
of a fucking song to sing.

01:18:38.255 --> 01:18:41.049 align:center
I just can't go
and have some macaroni and cheese

01:18:41.133 --> 01:18:42.926 align:center
like normal people.

01:18:43.009 --> 01:18:45.011 align:center
I gotta hire a vocal coach.

01:18:47.764 --> 01:18:49.474 align:center
May your days…

01:18:49.558 --> 01:18:53.562 align:center
The Christmas party had become so
popular, it got too big for their house.

01:18:53.645 --> 01:18:57.065 align:center
I said, "Nancy,
how are you gonna cull the list?"

01:18:57.149 --> 01:19:01.069 align:center
She goes, "Honey, if they don't know
my kids' names, they ain't coming."

01:19:01.153 --> 01:19:05.991 align:center
Christmases be white

01:19:07.492 --> 01:19:08.952 align:center
The storm is coming.

01:19:20.672 --> 01:19:22.340 align:center
It's… it's coming.

01:19:26.970 --> 01:19:28.096 align:center
Did you hear that?

01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:32.184 align:center
Should I pick the kids up?

01:19:32.976 --> 01:19:35.270 align:center
Yeah, I don't want Ollie driving now.

01:19:35.771 --> 01:19:36.813 align:center
Yeah, okay.

01:19:37.981 --> 01:19:39.483 align:center
So you better phone.

01:19:40.275 --> 01:19:42.569 align:center
Well, maybe we should just have dinner
at the club then.

01:19:42.652 --> 01:19:45.530 align:center
-Let's do that.
-All right. Can you phone and see?

01:19:45.614 --> 01:19:46.823 align:center
Oh my God!

01:19:47.324 --> 01:19:50.952 align:center
Oh my dear Lord in heaven. I…

01:19:51.036 --> 01:19:52.954 align:center
This isn't really what I look like.

01:19:53.038 --> 01:19:54.790 align:center
Nancy.

01:19:54.873 --> 01:19:56.750 align:center
Get the phone!

01:19:57.667 --> 01:20:00.879 align:center
I… I heard a shrink talk once
that said certain couples

01:20:01.546 --> 01:20:03.757 align:center
relate directly to each other.

01:20:04.257 --> 01:20:07.093 align:center
And certain couples relate through things.

01:20:08.303 --> 01:20:10.639 align:center
And they just relate in a different way.

01:20:11.348 --> 01:20:13.141 align:center
And they related like this.

01:20:14.851 --> 01:20:18.188 align:center
She thought everything
he said was hilarious.

01:20:18.730 --> 01:20:21.817 align:center
And it was a sincere laughter.

01:20:23.902 --> 01:20:25.737 align:center
It wasn't like a wife doing it.

01:20:25.821 --> 01:20:28.240 align:center
It was like a person laughing.

01:20:28.323 --> 01:20:30.116 align:center
You know, "Tell that story again."

01:20:32.035 --> 01:20:34.204 align:center
She was his biggest fan.

01:20:34.287 --> 01:20:38.625 align:center
Nothing is more touching when you
look back at the videos that he has.

01:20:39.292 --> 01:20:43.088 align:center
And the camera looks at her watching him,

01:20:43.588 --> 01:20:46.341 align:center
and her laughing uncontrollably.

01:20:47.092 --> 01:20:48.385 align:center
Not to fill his ego.

01:20:48.468 --> 01:20:51.388 align:center
Just because she felt he was genuinely

01:20:51.888 --> 01:20:53.640 align:center
the best in her book.

01:20:56.393 --> 01:20:58.520 align:center
It's mother doing the daddy dance.

01:21:01.773 --> 01:21:03.608 align:center
I can't do it like you.
What's the other one?

01:21:03.692 --> 01:21:04.693 align:center
What's the other one? Oh.

01:21:06.236 --> 01:21:09.489 align:center
In 2007, she thought she had a hernia.

01:21:09.573 --> 01:21:10.907 align:center
She went to a doctor, and he said,

01:21:10.991 --> 01:21:14.286 align:center
"I think it's a hernia,
but we should have it s… scanned."

01:21:14.369 --> 01:21:17.998 align:center
And it was scanned,
and it turned out to be an ovarian cyst.

01:21:18.081 --> 01:21:21.585 align:center
Of course, then someone picked up a phone
and phoned the National Enquirer.

01:21:21.668 --> 01:21:23.503 align:center
So it was all in the National Enquirer.

01:21:23.587 --> 01:21:26.256 align:center
Bernie Brillstein phoned me up,
my manager, and said,

01:21:26.339 --> 01:21:28.592 align:center
"Hey, kid, two things. Um…"

01:21:29.092 --> 01:21:31.511 align:center
"Bad news is
it's on page three of the Enquirer."

01:21:31.595 --> 01:21:33.138 align:center
"Good news. It's a very nice picture."

01:21:34.973 --> 01:21:37.976 align:center
A couple of days later, we had a scan.
It was proved to be cancer.

01:21:43.231 --> 01:21:45.191 align:center
He was doing some work during that time.

01:21:45.275 --> 01:21:48.153 align:center
And the family and Nancy
and everybody says,

01:21:48.236 --> 01:21:51.364 align:center
"You're not gonna stop doing your work
because this thing is going to…

01:21:51.448 --> 01:21:54.993 align:center
this malady is going to, uh,
you know, do its damage."

01:21:55.744 --> 01:21:58.663 align:center
At one point, I did have to go
and shoot Damages.

01:21:58.747 --> 01:22:01.041 align:center
My clients aren't guilty of anything.

01:22:01.124 --> 01:22:04.794 align:center
No one knew what was going on.
And Glenn would say, "Marty's here!"

01:22:04.878 --> 01:22:08.381 align:center
I'd go, "Yeah, just give me a second
in the dressing room."

01:22:12.844 --> 01:22:14.554 align:center
They came over for dinner at our cottage.

01:22:15.138 --> 01:22:17.599 align:center
And Nancy said, "Come into the bedroom.
I wanna talk to you."

01:22:17.682 --> 01:22:20.727 align:center
So of course, I went…
…into my bedroom with Nancy

01:22:20.810 --> 01:22:21.978 align:center
'cause she told me to.

01:22:22.062 --> 01:22:26.191 align:center
And she said, "Well, I have cancer."
And told me what was going on.

01:22:26.733 --> 01:22:29.819 align:center
"Okay." "And it's gonna be fine."
And just told me the facts.

01:22:29.903 --> 01:22:32.447 align:center
"Okay, I just wanted you to know." "Okay."

01:22:32.530 --> 01:22:34.074 align:center
Then we go back to dinner.

01:22:35.283 --> 01:22:38.536 align:center
You're kind of hoping
everything works out.

01:22:38.620 --> 01:22:42.582 align:center
At the time,
we didn't know in the very beginning.

01:22:43.083 --> 01:22:44.542 align:center
At a certain point,

01:22:44.626 --> 01:22:47.170 align:center
we kind of knew
that it wasn't gonna work out.

01:22:50.632 --> 01:22:52.550 align:center
To Nancy's credit,

01:22:52.634 --> 01:22:56.429 align:center
just because she was the way she was,

01:22:56.513 --> 01:22:58.807 align:center
fearless, deter…

01:22:58.890 --> 01:23:01.059 align:center
You know her. Determined.

01:23:02.644 --> 01:23:03.520 align:center
Um…

01:23:04.062 --> 01:23:05.271 align:center
A fighter.

01:23:05.772 --> 01:23:08.650 align:center
The chick could do anything, okay?
She could do anything.

01:23:08.733 --> 01:23:10.193 align:center
Her attitude was,

01:23:10.276 --> 01:23:14.364 align:center
"Cancer, whatever.
This is how I'm gonna live my life."

01:23:15.740 --> 01:23:18.451 align:center
Through a lot of pain,
she was playing tennis.

01:23:18.535 --> 01:23:20.787 align:center
I was up at Snug Harbour when it was…

01:23:21.705 --> 01:23:25.166 align:center
It was the summer where she died
in September.

01:23:25.667 --> 01:23:27.460 align:center
-Hi, darling.
-Hey, baby.

01:23:27.544 --> 01:23:29.337 align:center
-We're having fun.
-Beautiful.

01:23:29.421 --> 01:23:31.631 align:center
We just tried to work off her vibe.

01:23:31.715 --> 01:23:34.134 align:center
She set the tone, and we followed.

01:23:34.926 --> 01:23:37.220 align:center
She tended to be positive in general.

01:23:37.721 --> 01:23:40.974 align:center
So when she got sick,
her approach was, "I can fight it."

01:23:41.057 --> 01:23:44.769 align:center
And if they'd give her…
She'd be on a new cocktail of chemo.

01:23:44.853 --> 01:23:46.896 align:center
She'd say to everyone, "I'm cured."

01:23:46.980 --> 01:23:49.566 align:center
She went to the Internet once,
read about it, and said,

01:23:49.649 --> 01:23:51.151 align:center
"I'm not gonna do that anymore."

01:23:51.234 --> 01:23:52.652 align:center
She didn't wanna know.

01:23:52.736 --> 01:23:56.948 align:center
She just wanted to just keep going
until she couldn't.

01:23:57.532 --> 01:24:00.910 align:center
And he was a perfect partner
because he let her.

01:24:00.994 --> 01:24:03.288 align:center
It was extraordinary to watch.

01:24:07.876 --> 01:24:09.044 align:center
Sing it, Nan.

01:24:09.127 --> 01:24:11.880 align:center
Ooh, unforgettable…

01:24:11.963 --> 01:24:14.299 align:center
Unforgettable

01:24:14.382 --> 01:24:17.135 align:center
In every way…

01:24:17.218 --> 01:24:20.680 align:center
In every way

01:24:21.181 --> 01:24:23.391 align:center
And forever more…

01:24:23.475 --> 01:24:26.144 align:center
And forever more

01:24:26.227 --> 01:24:28.104 align:center
That's how you'll stay…

01:24:28.188 --> 01:24:32.233 align:center
That's how you'll stay

01:24:32.317 --> 01:24:38.907 align:center
That's why, darling It's incredible

01:24:39.407 --> 01:24:44.037 align:center
That someone so unforgettable

01:24:44.120 --> 01:24:50.460 align:center
Thinks that I am unforgettable

01:24:50.543 --> 01:24:55.548 align:center
Too

01:25:05.225 --> 01:25:10.021 align:center
Steve Martin wrote a melody
for Nancy Short, who died a year ago.

01:25:10.105 --> 01:25:13.650 align:center
I, uh, dedicated it
to my friend Marty Short's…

01:25:16.277 --> 01:25:17.737 align:center
I'm sorry. It's okay.

01:25:17.821 --> 01:25:18.655 align:center
Sorry.

01:25:19.155 --> 01:25:20.448 align:center
Come on, I'll play it for you.

01:25:31.292 --> 01:25:37.298 align:center
Like any family, it's just a simple fact
that loss is something to negotiate.

01:25:38.216 --> 01:25:40.969 align:center
It's going to happen to all of us,
and we must celebrate

01:25:41.052 --> 01:25:43.888 align:center
and continue that voice
and never let it go.

01:25:45.849 --> 01:25:49.978 align:center
I couldn't imagine Marty without Nancy.

01:25:50.061 --> 01:25:51.229 align:center
Yeah.

01:25:51.312 --> 01:25:53.690 align:center
How's he gonna be able
to go on without her?

01:25:53.773 --> 01:25:55.775 align:center
How's he gonna be able
to be funny without her?

01:25:58.736 --> 01:26:01.990 align:center
He first threw himself into
his children's lives. Into his family.

01:26:02.073 --> 01:26:03.992 align:center
Then he threw himself into his work.

01:26:06.828 --> 01:26:08.663 align:center
I looked at Marty, and I thought,

01:26:08.746 --> 01:26:11.666 align:center
"He's going through it again.
Jesus Christ."

01:26:12.417 --> 01:26:13.585 align:center
"Give me a break."

01:26:14.836 --> 01:26:17.297 align:center
We'll have full-on conversations
about Nancy now.

01:26:17.380 --> 01:26:19.799 align:center
I mean, we… we don't skirt around her.

01:26:19.883 --> 01:26:22.927 align:center
Sometimes when he's on the phone
and he'll be talking about it,

01:26:23.011 --> 01:26:26.890 align:center
and I won't agree with him, and I'll say,
"Put Nancy on the phone," you know.

01:26:27.390 --> 01:26:30.059 align:center
"'Cause you know what?
She'd have a different opinion here."

01:26:30.560 --> 01:26:34.355 align:center
He handled it with
a sense of humor, looked for the laughs.

01:26:34.981 --> 01:26:37.692 align:center
I hope you're telling everyone
how important laughter is.

01:26:39.611 --> 01:26:43.406 align:center
I was trying to help him.
You try to make sure they're okay.

01:26:44.032 --> 01:26:45.158 align:center
Hi, video.

01:26:45.241 --> 01:26:47.577 align:center
Until they can stand
on their own two feet.

01:26:48.536 --> 01:26:49.829 align:center
I remember he was working a lot.

01:26:49.913 --> 01:26:51.956 align:center
Holiday time

01:26:52.457 --> 01:26:54.042 align:center
What are you doing?

01:26:54.542 --> 01:26:57.212 align:center
He did share that when he was on the road,

01:26:57.295 --> 01:27:00.006 align:center
that's when he was without Nancy normally.

01:27:00.506 --> 01:27:03.509 align:center
So the loss actually was
a little less tangible

01:27:03.593 --> 01:27:04.886 align:center
when he was out there working,

01:27:04.969 --> 01:27:07.222 align:center
as opposed to being home
and being home alone.

01:27:07.305 --> 01:27:09.974 align:center
I don't know what he would do
if he wasn't on the move.

01:27:10.058 --> 01:27:15.313 align:center
I think he would think it'd be
a disservice to Nancy if he went down.

01:27:15.396 --> 01:27:17.398 align:center
I was gonna have this meeting with him.

01:27:17.482 --> 01:27:20.276 align:center
And I wasn't really aware
that he had lost his wife

01:27:20.360 --> 01:27:22.779 align:center
within the past few years at that time.

01:27:24.280 --> 01:27:27.283 align:center
You're… you're looking
at someone's true half gone.

01:27:27.367 --> 01:27:31.371 align:center
That's how Lorne Michaels explained to me
what kind of a loss that was.

01:27:31.454 --> 01:27:34.999 align:center
I was trying to do
one of those stupid live audience sitcoms,

01:27:35.083 --> 01:27:36.834 align:center
but in a weird way.

01:27:36.918 --> 01:27:39.462 align:center
And border on corny,

01:27:39.545 --> 01:27:40.797 align:center
but not be.

01:27:41.881 --> 01:27:45.802 align:center
My decorator was going for feng shui,
but I just wanted to Wang Chung.

01:27:50.139 --> 01:27:53.017 align:center
She lives! She's alive!

01:27:53.101 --> 01:27:54.602 align:center
Sometimes I'd write for him.

01:27:54.686 --> 01:27:56.771 align:center
He'd say to me, "Well, this is stupid."

01:27:56.854 --> 01:28:00.483 align:center
I'd be like, "Isn't the smartest thing
to do something really stupid?"

01:28:00.566 --> 01:28:04.737 align:center
He'd go, "Well, why don't I just put on
a big red wig and run in circles?"

01:28:04.821 --> 01:28:07.615 align:center
And some part of me was like,
"Oh, would you do that?"

01:28:08.282 --> 01:28:10.994 align:center
Something about
what I was trying to do didn't translate.

01:28:11.077 --> 01:28:16.165 align:center
I think I ran into him in the hall
when reviews and numbers were not good.

01:28:16.249 --> 01:28:20.712 align:center
And he just grabbed me and said,
"John, this is what it is."

01:28:20.795 --> 01:28:23.673 align:center
He goes, "98% of it is failure."

01:28:24.257 --> 01:28:27.885 align:center
And he meant it sincerely.
Like, he goes, "This is what the job is."

01:28:28.761 --> 01:28:31.306 align:center
Nothing works, then something works.

01:28:31.889 --> 01:28:37.895 align:center
Marty is busier and in more demand now
than he ever has been.

01:28:39.856 --> 01:28:44.527 align:center
He's responsible for this thing that
has made streaming television history.

01:28:44.610 --> 01:28:48.406 align:center
He goes off and has these shows
that he puts on with Steve.

01:28:49.532 --> 01:28:53.411 align:center
That is not coming out of a desire
to stay on top,

01:28:53.911 --> 01:28:57.290 align:center
or to fill his coffers,
or to stay relevant.

01:28:57.373 --> 01:28:58.833 align:center
It's got none of that.

01:28:58.916 --> 01:29:00.084 align:center
Marty is doing it

01:29:00.168 --> 01:29:03.212 align:center
because the opportunity is there
to have a blast.

01:29:08.009 --> 01:29:09.886 align:center
Stop loving me!

01:29:10.803 --> 01:29:13.931 align:center
Thank you. I'm your guest host
for the week, Martin Short.

01:29:15.016 --> 01:29:16.893 align:center
Oh, hi there.

01:29:17.894 --> 01:29:20.313 align:center
I'm actor, comedian, philanthropist,

01:29:20.396 --> 01:29:23.566 align:center
and award-winning
adult film star Martin Short.

01:29:24.067 --> 01:29:27.820 align:center
People always ask me, "Marty,
how do you have so much energy?"

01:29:27.904 --> 01:29:31.532 align:center
Usually I tell those people,
"Get the f*** away from me! Thanks."

01:29:36.412 --> 01:29:38.081 align:center
I'm putting you on speaker.

01:29:38.831 --> 01:29:41.501 align:center
-Yeah?
-Hey, it's Steve Martin, everyone.

01:29:41.584 --> 01:29:42.752 align:center
Hi, Marty.

01:29:42.835 --> 01:29:43.795 align:center
Hi, Steve.

01:29:43.878 --> 01:29:47.173 align:center
I'm calling to say I don't like you

01:29:47.256 --> 01:29:49.717 align:center
or the people you hang around with.

01:29:53.429 --> 01:29:56.057 align:center
And you felt you had to phone
and tell me that?

01:29:56.140 --> 01:29:58.726 align:center
No, and I'm telling you,
I hope you're not recording this.

01:29:58.810 --> 01:30:00.686 align:center
No, no, we're not. Absolutely not.

01:30:00.770 --> 01:30:02.522 align:center
Okay, enough. We're bombing, by the way.

01:30:03.022 --> 01:30:04.524 align:center
-Yeah, we're bombing.
-I know.

01:30:05.733 --> 01:30:08.111 align:center
We all know,
whether you're in show business or not,

01:30:08.194 --> 01:30:10.363 align:center
that you can have a friend
you don't see for a year,

01:30:10.446 --> 01:30:13.157 align:center
and you get back together
and it's just like butter.

01:30:13.241 --> 01:30:14.325 align:center
Congratulations.

01:30:14.909 --> 01:30:16.536 align:center
Remember what we did in that movie?

01:30:17.912 --> 01:30:19.372 align:center
Gee, do you think it could work?

01:30:19.455 --> 01:30:20.790 align:center
It's got to work.

01:30:20.873 --> 01:30:23.751 align:center
We did this comedy festival
where we interview each other.

01:30:23.835 --> 01:30:24.669 align:center
I have a question.

01:30:24.752 --> 01:30:27.213 align:center
You do something I don't.
You do impressions and…

01:30:32.969 --> 01:30:36.764 align:center
We thought, "Why don't we do it again?"
And I knew Marty had a solo show.

01:30:37.765 --> 01:30:42.311 align:center
And I had a… a show with a band.
A comedy music show.

01:30:42.395 --> 01:30:45.106 align:center
And I thought, "Maybe we'll try it.
We'll blend it."

01:30:45.189 --> 01:30:48.651 align:center
Steve and I called this show,
If We'd Saved, We Wouldn't Be Here.

01:30:49.652 --> 01:30:52.697 align:center
You know what I love
about touring around with Marty Short?

01:30:52.780 --> 01:30:54.115 align:center
No paparazzi.

01:30:56.576 --> 01:31:00.997 align:center
Is there any trepidation at all
when you come out and start the show?

01:31:01.581 --> 01:31:02.665 align:center
-None.
-None.

01:31:03.749 --> 01:31:05.376 align:center
Isn't that a boring answer?

01:31:05.460 --> 01:31:09.297 align:center
I'm a little more, uh, nervous
than Marty is. Marty is extremely relaxed.

01:31:09.380 --> 01:31:12.925 align:center
-And the reason he is more nervous--
-I care.

01:31:13.009 --> 01:31:14.760 align:center
-I'm relaxed… Same joke.
-Yeah.

01:31:14.844 --> 01:31:18.306 align:center
Which has kept me out of the big money
because Steve actually cares.

01:31:18.389 --> 01:31:20.892 align:center
When I think of Steve, and it's not often,

01:31:20.975 --> 01:31:22.602 align:center
but when I do,

01:31:22.685 --> 01:31:25.730 align:center
the one thing that strikes me more
than anything else about you

01:31:25.813 --> 01:31:29.483 align:center
is how unbelievably pale
you are in person.

01:31:30.860 --> 01:31:32.570 align:center
Like I'm being haunted, you know?

01:31:32.653 --> 01:31:36.032 align:center
You look like Anderson Cooper
froze to death on New Year's Eve.

01:31:38.034 --> 01:31:41.162 align:center
You know that sort of
insult premise that we have?

01:31:41.245 --> 01:31:43.789 align:center
He was the first one to do that.

01:31:44.415 --> 01:31:48.503 align:center
And I thought, "Oh, that's kind of fun."

01:31:49.587 --> 01:31:52.965 align:center
And so I'd start to learn to do it back,
and he'd do it.

01:31:53.049 --> 01:31:57.678 align:center
And… and that became a way to converse.

01:31:57.762 --> 01:32:00.556 align:center
And then I noticed, when we started doing
Only Murders in the Building,

01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:03.809 align:center
and we're working with Selena,
who's a person we didn't know…

01:32:04.310 --> 01:32:07.271 align:center
Marty and I have
this little rapport thing going on

01:32:07.355 --> 01:32:10.858 align:center
to sort of kill time between setups.

01:32:11.359 --> 01:32:15.238 align:center
And a couple of years go by, and then I
notice Selena starts doing it.

01:32:17.156 --> 01:32:19.825 align:center
-Oh, how did you get here?
-It was open.

01:32:19.909 --> 01:32:21.494 align:center
I don't lock my door. Never have.

01:32:21.577 --> 01:32:23.120 align:center
-That's insane.
-It's neighborly.

01:32:23.204 --> 01:32:25.289 align:center
A murderer probably lives in the building.

01:32:25.373 --> 01:32:29.252 align:center
But I guess old white guys are only afraid
of colon cancer and societal change.

01:32:29.835 --> 01:32:30.670 align:center
Sad.

01:32:31.170 --> 01:32:34.090 align:center
Marty says, "I can't believe
that we get to do this."

01:32:34.173 --> 01:32:36.550 align:center
"I get to go hang out with funny people

01:32:36.634 --> 01:32:39.595 align:center
and laugh all through all rehearsals."

01:32:40.096 --> 01:32:45.101 align:center
Steve feels that this is a moment.

01:32:45.184 --> 01:32:46.602 align:center
So much for the moment.

01:32:48.229 --> 01:32:49.981 align:center
Come around to yourself now, Marty.

01:32:51.232 --> 01:32:53.359 align:center
-I was covering the camera.
-Camera was covered.

01:32:53.442 --> 01:32:56.320 align:center
Marty and I like honing in on a… a joke

01:32:56.404 --> 01:32:58.155 align:center
to get it more and more precise.

01:32:58.239 --> 01:33:01.284 align:center
So it's almost exact.

01:33:01.367 --> 01:33:04.453 align:center
And then within that exactness,
there are variations.

01:33:04.537 --> 01:33:05.371 align:center
Huh?

01:33:05.871 --> 01:33:07.707 align:center
Oh my God, Mayberry.

01:33:09.333 --> 01:33:11.294 align:center
-Well, that's not bad.
-Yeah, yeah.

01:33:11.794 --> 01:33:15.339 align:center
-You know, to say something--
-R.F.D.

01:33:17.800 --> 01:33:21.345 align:center
Well, what about, "Oh My God, Opie?" Or…

01:33:22.305 --> 01:33:23.598 align:center
Richie Cunningham?

01:33:24.390 --> 01:33:25.975 align:center
That was his character in Happy Days.

01:33:26.058 --> 01:33:29.020 align:center
But I think it… it steps
on your Ollie and Ron-Ron.

01:33:29.103 --> 01:33:31.272 align:center
I'll just go, "Huh?"

01:33:32.189 --> 01:33:33.858 align:center
The A-lister. You did it.

01:33:33.941 --> 01:33:35.192 align:center
-Yeah.
-Okay.

01:33:35.693 --> 01:33:37.903 align:center
-From the top.
-Really?

01:33:38.487 --> 01:33:40.239 align:center
I'm just thinking of this poor man.

01:33:40.323 --> 01:33:41.198 align:center
I know.

01:33:44.410 --> 01:33:47.038 align:center
You know,
we're gonna be friends to the end.

01:33:47.538 --> 01:33:50.166 align:center
Oh, God. I'm fine. You don't need to say
anything nice about me.

01:33:50.249 --> 01:33:52.668 align:center
Especially not while making eye contact.

01:33:52.752 --> 01:33:55.004 align:center
What if we went behind our menus?

01:33:55.504 --> 01:33:58.174 align:center
That… that c… That could work, yeah.

01:33:58.841 --> 01:34:00.509 align:center
If it would make you feel better,

01:34:00.593 --> 01:34:04.013 align:center
you can be my Life Alert contact
in case I fall.

01:34:04.096 --> 01:34:06.265 align:center
And we can get colonoscopies together.

01:34:07.725 --> 01:34:09.477 align:center
I can't ever imagine stopping.

01:34:10.394 --> 01:34:13.439 align:center
And I'd like to think
I was the best version of myself

01:34:13.522 --> 01:34:15.399 align:center
on the last day of my life.

01:34:15.483 --> 01:34:16.692 align:center
Marty really showed me

01:34:16.776 --> 01:34:19.612 align:center
that, um, it's very important
how you carry yourself

01:34:19.695 --> 01:34:21.822 align:center
through all of these experiences.

01:34:21.906 --> 01:34:23.741 align:center
Marty is good at life.

01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:39.298 align:center
In this business, in the world of comedy,
there's nobody faster.

01:34:39.799 --> 01:34:42.051 align:center
There's nobody smarter.
There's nobody funnier.

01:34:42.551 --> 01:34:47.556 align:center
He's just been born
with an ability to connect.

01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:52.395 align:center
You just write the word J-O-Y, joy,
and it's a steady state.

01:34:52.478 --> 01:34:56.691 align:center
You know, it's like… it's like a constant.
It's the… It's the speed of light.

01:34:56.774 --> 01:34:59.944 align:center
Marty operates at the speed of joy.

01:35:09.036 --> 01:35:10.413 align:center
Hi, baby.

01:35:11.080 --> 01:35:12.706 align:center
What a glorious day!

01:35:13.999 --> 01:35:16.877 align:center
Michael and Brian Short.

01:35:19.046 --> 01:35:20.756 align:center
Watch out for the puddles.

01:35:22.883 --> 01:35:25.136 align:center
Yes, the Levys are at Snug Harbour.

01:35:26.178 --> 01:35:27.763 align:center
Wow. You know what?

01:35:28.389 --> 01:35:29.849 align:center
I'm damn impressed.

01:35:31.475 --> 01:35:33.728 align:center
Someone's knocking at the door

01:35:34.228 --> 01:35:36.397 align:center
Somebody's ringing the bell…

01:35:37.273 --> 01:35:38.858 align:center
-Hi, Marty.
-Hi, Andrea.

01:35:38.941 --> 01:35:43.362 align:center
Open the door and let 'em in

01:35:43.946 --> 01:35:45.239 align:center
Ooh, yeah…

01:35:46.198 --> 01:35:48.117 align:center
-Hi, honey.
-Hi, honey.

01:35:48.200 --> 01:35:50.995 align:center
-You're taping me, but I'm taping you!
-Oh!

01:35:53.330 --> 01:35:55.750 align:center
So this is a press conference, kids.

01:35:55.833 --> 01:35:57.751 align:center
And they all love me.

01:35:59.170 --> 01:36:00.379 align:center
Do me a favor

01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:03.048 align:center
Open the door and…

01:36:03.132 --> 01:36:05.384 align:center
What are you doing?
Are you doing that face?

01:36:05.468 --> 01:36:08.721 align:center
Yeah, let 'em in…

01:36:08.804 --> 01:36:11.348 align:center
-Hello, Danny.
-Hello.

01:36:11.432 --> 01:36:13.267 align:center
Well, hi, captain.

01:36:13.934 --> 01:36:17.897 align:center
There's the fabulous
Catherine O'Hara. Go, baby.

01:36:20.566 --> 01:36:21.859 align:center
Wow!

01:36:24.570 --> 01:36:25.404 align:center
Hey, ese.

01:36:25.488 --> 01:36:27.114 align:center
Oh, Dave. Grow up.

01:36:27.907 --> 01:36:30.785 align:center
-Andrea, look at the ass on mother.
-So fat.

01:36:30.868 --> 01:36:32.578 align:center
How's your vacation, Stevie?

01:36:32.661 --> 01:36:34.121 align:center
Innkeeper, more wine.

01:36:34.205 --> 01:36:35.873 align:center
Brother John

01:36:36.916 --> 01:36:38.626 align:center
Martin Luther

01:36:39.293 --> 01:36:41.212 align:center
Phil and Don

01:36:42.338 --> 01:36:43.923 align:center
Brother Michael

01:36:44.924 --> 01:36:46.759 align:center
Auntie Gin…

01:36:48.135 --> 01:36:51.388 align:center
I don't think dogs like me, Marty. I don't
know why. I just don't think they like me.

01:36:51.472 --> 01:36:53.390 align:center
-Really?
-Yeah, I don't really think so.

01:36:53.474 --> 01:36:55.309 align:center
Well, maybe you… Let me see.

01:36:57.895 --> 01:36:59.188 align:center
Go, baby, go!

01:36:59.897 --> 01:37:01.857 align:center
Somebody's ringing the bell…

01:37:08.113 --> 01:37:09.573 align:center
Do me a favor…

01:37:10.074 --> 01:37:11.784 align:center
Happy Thanksgiving.

01:37:15.120 --> 01:37:16.413 align:center
Ooh, yeah, yeah…

01:37:16.997 --> 01:37:17.831 align:center
Stop it.

01:37:19.041 --> 01:37:21.460 align:center
Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo

01:37:24.213 --> 01:37:25.214 align:center
Camera on.

01:37:26.632 --> 01:37:30.386 align:center
That's all the news.
It is the news. Talk to you later.

01:37:31.136 --> 01:37:33.639 align:center
And, uh… Uh…

01:37:33.722 --> 01:37:35.641 align:center
So until then.

01:37:36.642 --> 01:37:39.144 align:center
-Are you happy now, Dad?
-Yes.

01:37:43.482 --> 01:37:47.695 align:center
Jiminy, you've interviewed
so many people. Like, everybody.

01:37:47.778 --> 01:37:50.197 align:center
But you've never interviewed Martin Short.

01:37:50.698 --> 01:37:52.825 align:center
No. I don't find him interesting.

01:37:52.908 --> 01:37:56.453 align:center
I find people who push too hard

01:37:56.537 --> 01:37:58.664 align:center
and are desperate for the approval

01:37:58.747 --> 01:38:02.084 align:center
without really presenting
any reason for the approval,

01:38:02.167 --> 01:38:03.836 align:center
I find it offensive.

01:38:03.919 --> 01:38:06.422 align:center
Did you hear they were making
a documentary about him?

01:38:06.922 --> 01:38:09.425 align:center
Yeah, well, they're making
a documentary on everyone.

01:38:09.508 --> 01:38:11.760 align:center
You know, they're making a… a documentary.

01:38:11.844 --> 01:38:16.181 align:center
Literally every human being that existed.

01:38:16.265 --> 01:38:19.643 align:center
This is what I think.
I think that Martin Short, he…

01:38:19.727 --> 01:38:24.523 align:center
There's, like, basically, three voices,
two hairstyles, and four dance moves.

01:38:24.607 --> 01:38:28.277 align:center
And you can't build an empire on that.
Although somehow, he has.

01:38:28.360 --> 01:38:30.946 align:center
But I don't buy it. I don't like it.
.
Although somehow, he has.