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It's Boxing Day,

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and it's a very beautiful day today…

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in sunny California.

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-Hello, Nancy. Happy Boxing Day.
-Hi, sweetie.

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Oh, someone's at the door.

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Oh, it's Tom!

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-Hey, Merry Christmas!
-Oh God! Merry Chri…

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Oh, mistletoe.

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-Oh, where?
-Right here.

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How many Christmases would this be?
'72, '92. Twenty years.

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-Oh.
-Whoa!

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-Too bright?
-Not for your wrinkles.

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Then there's Dave Thomas
and Harrison Thomas.

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He's plugging his ears. Why?

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Could it be you?

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Oh, I loved you in Home Alone!

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You were wonderful!

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Steve, how do you do?

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I'm really having fun here, Marty.
I mean that.

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I'll tell you something about Marty.

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Let's say you're gonna host
a dinner party,

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and you invite Marty.

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And then it turns out Marty can't come.

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You cancel the party.

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Look at… Look at Marty!

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It's gonna be one of those
hatchet awful things that I won't promote.

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It is hilarious that we have to pretend
we don't know each other.

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Not at all.

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-This is based on us knowing each other.
-It is.

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You and I have talked--

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Larry and I,
we have had one million dinners.

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-One million lunches.
-That's right.

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One million passionate lunches.

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This is continuing the conversation.

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That's right.

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In my business,
there's a traditional career path.

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TV, movies,

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then Broadway, your own special,

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reality show host, Chabad telethon,
dinner theater, The Palm Springs Follies,

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and then this show.

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There was no expectation to be a star.

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There was no,

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"Mama, it's happened!"

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There was none of that.

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It's just, "There's a mortgage."

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"There are kids."

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"I'm in the greatest profession
in the world. I'm so damn lucky."

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"How do I keep it going?"

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Why am I holding this knife?

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I work in comedy.

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And I do a particular kind of comedy.

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-Here comes Uncle Jack. Shoot me!
-Agh!

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It's sketch-oriented, character-oriented.

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Not many jokes.

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If you were to read a script
that I've written,

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there's not many jokes in it.

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It's all… You just have to trust me.

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Master Bonks, I do this for a loving,
you know? Trust me.

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Where I like my career the least is
when I feel like I'm doing something

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that 200 other actors could do.

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That's where I feel I'm wasting my time.

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When I'm doing my… my unusual little art,

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and it may not be good art,
but it's art because it's specific,

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then I'm very happy.

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Let the party begin!

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The characters he has played,

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they're not just parodies of a type.

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It's actually quite hard to make
a completely bizarre character real.

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That's what he does.

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And this is a book about what?

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It's… it's… it's a love letter,
really, I suppose,

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with a… with a dash of hatred,
in an almost mocha kind of swirl,

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if you'll have it.

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It's like seeing
your best friend in the world,

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who happens to be
the weirdest person ever.

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-How's that character coming?
-Oh, the Mad Hatter is coming fine.

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I don't know.
I haven't figured him out yet.

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It might be low and English.

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Hello. Any more strawberries
down there, Dormy?

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Any spoilt sandwiches?
I do love spoilt sandwiches, don't you?

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-Might be that.
-I like the lisp.

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Yes, okay. I overslept! Slept!

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-You… you over what?
-Slept!

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I like that.

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Have you any more food down there, Dormy?

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Any spoilt sandwiches or strawberries?

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I love strawberries, don't you?

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You don't realize how much energy it takes

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to do what he does.

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Won't you stay a while?

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He hasn't exhausted himself
by second-guessing a decision,

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by being frightened
that he made the wrong decision.

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You know how many hours in the day
you'd have if you didn't have that?

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I'd have 23 more hours.

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Hallo! Who are you?

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Get away!

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I don't like what you say

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Now…

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Oh my God, that's horrible.
Not the eyebrow work. That's fantastic.

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Ron-Ron, run up to yourself.

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I don't think
you should start that story with…

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If it makes you feel better,
you can also be my, uh, Life Alert

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in case I fall,

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and we can have colonoscopies together.

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Hello. How are you?

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I didn't notice there was a camera on me.

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This is so weird.

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I'm not used to being photographed.
I'm kind of shy.

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-Good morning, sir.
-Good morning!

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I would say my career
has been 80% failure,

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and I think those are pretty good odds.

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Show business is talent,
luck, and endurance.

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But you can have talent,
you can have tenacity,

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you can take the hits,

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but if you don't have the confidence
to get up there and fail,

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then you can't do it.

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I'm gonna go down to the set.

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-Hey!
-Hey!

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-Can I come with you to the funeral?
-Yeah!

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Please, God, yes. We… we need you.

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You're the glue. You're the Mabel
in the Charles/Oliver sandwich.

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Without you, we're two pieces
of stale white bread.

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Exactly. Come on.

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We have that scene,
but we know that scene.

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Yeah.

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I'm starting to feel very comfortable now

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with the lines for the rest of the season.

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I'm gonna get dressed.

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-See ya.
-Bye.

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You let them in.

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Hey, there's Ron Howard.

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Oh boy.

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Now the fun begins.

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So… so let me…
let me ask some incisive questions.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Like, why? Why do you continue
to push yourself?

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Well, I don't know. I think
I just love the sound of applause.

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-I have a different question.
-Yeah.

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Why do you continue?

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I just think it's important,
um, if you're "gifted…"

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-…to share that gift…
-Of course.

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…with… with people,
I don't know, like you.

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And we're grateful.

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-I know you are.
-Forever grateful.

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Have you ever thought… What have you done?

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Yes, it's Whitton Road.

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I wonder who that lady is.

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That was my bedroom.

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It's false for me to say
that comedy came from some space of pain.

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It's the opposite.

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It came from my whole life.
People were funny in my family.

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You know, I was this youngest of five.

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There was five years
between the fourth and the fifth.

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And I think I got so much attention
and so much love,

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and everyone told me
I was so great, and so funny,

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and so fabulous my whole life

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that I just boomed
into my, uh, uh, teen years

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without any kind of concern
that I, you know…

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I could look like, uh, Bill Schlechman

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with pimples and hairdo
and, "Hi, lady," and go up,

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and somehow, if she didn't ask me,
if she didn't say she'd go out with me,

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I'd say, "What's her problem?"

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And believe it.

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I profited from trickle-down comedy.

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My brother Michael
is a multi-Emmy, Golden Globe winner

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from everything from SCTV
to MADtv to Schitt's Creek.

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The thing that was really encouraged
was to make everyone laugh.

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-That was always encouraged in our family.
-Right.

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If you could make someone laugh,
even if you hurt a couple of people--

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Along the way.

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My father was general sales
manager of the Steel Company of Canada,

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very high position.

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Really funny, very sarcastic,

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slight Irish accent, came over at 21.

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"Hello, Marty."

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He was a bit of a handful,
you would agree.

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Mm-hmm.

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He would have occasional gin.

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-Yeah.
-Occasional subbing for the word constant.

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He would be snarky,
but it was all meant in… to be funny.

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Marty, my son,

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who has no possible chance in hell
to ever develop into a singing voice.

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But… but… but the point is
that he is interested.

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And the person that has
a distinctive voice

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is the one that's remembered.

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Marty was, uh, uh, tremendously talented.

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He started doing comedy
when he was, like, five.

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He was doing jokes, and doing bits,
and singing all the time.

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You did shows in the attic, literally,
did you not?

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I used to do the Martin Short Show.

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We were on at, uh, Tuesday at 8:30
opposite Andy Williams.

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In my mind. I would, uh, type up things.

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"Marty will sing… Marty's guests will be…"

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I would perform,
and I'd be killing upstairs,

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someone would call "dinner,"
and we'd stop and tape later.

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Yeah! Thank you, darling.

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Broadway, Broadway, Broadway

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Kids are playing road hockey,
and I'm up in my attic.

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-Weather-wise, such a cuckoo day
-Yeah.

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People are protesting the Vietnam War,
and he's doing Sinatra.

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Tell you about Broadway

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What Marty does now,
he was doing back then.

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Please welcome
the 100-million-dollar man himself,

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my best friend, Eugene Levy.

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Eugene Leevy.

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-Levy.
-Whatever. Please sit.

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Look at them over there.

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You'd think
they'd known each other for years.

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Truthfully, he's my oldest
and dearest friend.

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We were roommates together for a while.

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We dated for a period of time,
but the point is--

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Yeah.

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You're Canadian. Has that been a burden?

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No. No, it has not been a burden.

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You understand everything I'm saying?
I don't need to speak slower?

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We have the same language.

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Where do Canadians go
when they need to get away?

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Do they just go to the border
and look and peer and wish?

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Marty is my best friend.

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-Is your best friend?
-Yes.

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I met Marty in 1970 at McMaster University

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when we were in school together.

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It looks like he's an actor

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trying desperately hard
to get dramatic work.

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Yeah, he does.

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Well, I started out in pre-med,
and I switched to social work

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because I felt that would be easier.

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In high school, I never did any theater.

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It wasn't till I switched to social work
that I had time and I got more involved.

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And I'm doing everything
that I can theatrically.

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It still did not seem realistic
to be an actor.

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Eugene Levy was the one who said,

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"You should try to do this professionally.
Come to Toronto."

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So I literally gave myself
a one-year contract.

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I thought, "I'll give it a year,

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and if nothing happens,

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then I can apply
and go back to university."

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Post-graduate work?

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No, high school.

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I'm having some degree of difficulty
getting through high school.

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-I see. Well, good to have you--
-But I'll do it.

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I'm sure you will.

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Because I have certain goals in life
I feel compelled to complete.

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Very good.

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One of which is becoming
a circuit court judge.

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Good. Good to have ambition.

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I don't think you're ever aware
that you're in a particular group

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or a particular time.

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Toronto certainly had a creative boom.

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Is this coincidental, or is there
some Canadian comedic sensibility

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that particularly appeals?

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Well, I do think that Canada, uh,
Toronto particularly, it's, uh, at a hub.

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You know, we would get the Pythons
before the States got the Pythons.

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Eugene Levy and I shared a house,

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1063 Avenue Road in Toronto.

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And this house had more parties.

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Paul Shaffer would get up
and play the piano,

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and people would sing,

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and everyone kind of dated each other,
and partied with each other,

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and worked with each other.

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It was really kind of fantastic,
when you think of it.

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We all were performers,

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and we all loved to laugh.

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There was a lot of enthusiasm and fun,

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and a great love of performing.

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At the Catskills in these summer resorts,

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there was a guy called the tummler.

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In Yiddish, that means
a guy who causes a tumult,

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gets action going.

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I don't think Marty was in the Catskills,
but he sure is, you know…

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He is the tummler of… of our dreams.

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Everything was there with Marty.
His voice was there. His comedy was there.

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I said, "There's a show opening,
Godspell."

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"You should come in and audition for it
'cause it's a big musical."

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We went to the callback together,

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and that's where I introduced
Marty to Andrea.

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Godspell was looking for people
that weren't acting.

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That were just
genuinely, um, effervescent,

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uh, comedic, uh, warm.

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-Day by day
-Day by day

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Day by day

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Gilda Radner,
it was the first time she'd worked,

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and Andrea Martin and Eugene Levy
and Victor Garber

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and Jayne Eastwood and a lot of--

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-An amazing cast.
-Yeah. Paul Shaffer was the piano player.

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Right, right. You dated, uh, Gilda.

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Yes, I did. Everyone fell in love
with Gilda. She was adorable.

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She was so funny,
and she was just so self-deprecating.

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First day, she came up to me and went,
"Hi, my name's Gilda. Nice to see you."

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She had a pimple here,
and she kept holding it and talking to me.

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-Everyone fell in love with Gilda.
-Yeah.

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It's a safe thing to say.

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You later fell in love with her understudy
and married her.

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Yes, I… Uh, Nancy Dolman,
who was, uh, Gilda's understudy.

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That's true. In Godspell.

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Apparently, you had decided,
"Anyone who plays that part,

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I'm gonna get involved with." Uh, is that…

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That was… Yes, that was my decision.

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When I came into Godspell,
I was auditioning as understudy.

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I came in. It was very difficult for me
because the group was already set.

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They were all best friends.

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And there was Gilda,
and she was just so spectacular.

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And Andrea Martin, who I was in awe of.

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All these… You know, Marty…

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Marty, I wasn't that keen on
at first, actually.

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You turn me on, I'm a radio…

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And Nancy was

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drop-dead beautiful. It was insane.

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I'm a wildwood flower, waving for you…

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And she owned an antique clothing store.

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She had smuggled clothes in from Detroit
through the border.

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And it was the era…
You know, that Joni Mitchell…

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And she had a Joni Mitchell look.
It was long, blonde hair.

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When you're loving and kind

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And she'd come in with a velvet cape
and sign in, "Hi."

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And the guys'd go,

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"Yeah, okay then." But it didn't bother me
'cause I was with Gilda.

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We'd broken up a few times,
and we'd now had a fight.

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We'd broken up again.

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And I go to The Pilot bar,

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and there's Nancy Dolman.

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She was funny and had edge.

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And we got talking.

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She'd just broken up with her boyfriend,
but that wasn't…

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I just, "Oh.
Yeah, I just broke up with Gilda."

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I was doing a play, and Nancy came.
It was the summer.

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And she was wearing short shorts
and a halter top.

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And I was wearing
short shorts and a T-shirt.

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And we went to the Four Seasons Hotel.

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And I said to the guy,
"My wife and I would like a room, please."

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And even he started laughing
because we looked about 12.

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And that was it. That was it.

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From this moment on

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-What?
-Hi, this is my wife, Nancy.

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Beauteous Duchess.

17:51.987 --> 17:55.324
Who is presently listening
to the cast album of The Goodbye Girl.

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Is that Nancy, or is that Bo Derek?

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I'm listening to your song.

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So perverse

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Better call a nurse

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Marty and Nancy.

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Yeah, what a team, eh?

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I keep saying they're an amazing team,
but they really were.

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He's very outer child.

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And… And she was very outer adult.

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Oh my…

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My husband and I went through
a rough patch in our marriage.

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We went to therapy,
and one of the questions she asked is,

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"Do you have friends,
do you know a couple,

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whose relationship you would love to have,
or you'd love to emulate?"

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We said, "Oh, we have these friends,
Marty and Nancy."

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And she said,

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"I can't tell you
how many people have named them…"

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"…when I've asked this question."

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Hi, sweetie.

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-My darling, how are you?
-I'm fine, darling. How are you?

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Are we having a romantic time together?

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Yes, we are.

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After all these years.

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We really are, you know.

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This is slightly relevant.

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It's about time.

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Tell me what led to the break
that changed your life.

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The thing about
Canadian entertainment then,

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it was you got to do everything.

19:14.153 --> 19:17.656
It was like being at
a consistent university of show business.

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So in Canada, you could do
Shakespeare and radio,

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and you might do a voice commercial.

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On sale for just $39.95.

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And then you'd do your cabaret show.

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I'll never love again

19:32.713 --> 19:36.091
I'm so in love with you

19:36.175 --> 19:38.677
In the summer of 1973,

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Second City, the legendary
improvisational group from Chicago,

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formed its first sister company
in Toronto.

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Gilda Radner worked there.
Dan Aykroyd worked there.

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It was kind of the… the cool place
where you'd meet.

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Everyone auditioned for it,
and everyone got in.

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Andrea and Catherine and Joe
and Eugene and Dave and John Candy.

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I did not audition.

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I didn't like the idea
of being funny on demand

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'cause I was basically afraid of it.

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I wanted to be Sinatra.

20:09.291 --> 20:11.418
I wanted to be a singer.
I wanted to be an actor.

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I've got to be

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Where my spirit can run free…

20:17.007 --> 20:21.720
But I was now starting to feel
like I'm behind everyone.

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I have limited myself,

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and I'm going in a kind of circle.

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I don't feel momentum.

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Of the sky

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I remember going down
to the subway in Toronto.

20:42.282 --> 20:44.993
Every time I went down there,
the subway was leaving.

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I would run toward the subway.

20:47.746 --> 20:50.582
I'd walk really slow. It was leaving.

20:50.666 --> 20:53.961
And I thought, when the subway's
pulling in, my luck will change.

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But right now, the subway is pulling away.

20:59.132 --> 21:02.719
Nancy had a record deal in LA,
so I was gonna join her.

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Now, Miss Nancy Dolman.

21:06.974 --> 21:08.475
This is it

21:09.393 --> 21:11.436
This time I know it's the real thing

21:11.520 --> 21:16.441
And she really broke through
and was on national television prime time,

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even before Marty.

21:18.777 --> 21:20.696
She was the whole package.

21:21.613 --> 21:25.742
A beautiful voice,
perfect pitch with perfect diction,

21:25.826 --> 21:29.830
looks like a movie star,
and the nicest person.

21:35.961 --> 21:38.380
There's a moment I call Breakdown Corner.

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Paul Shaffer and Bill Murray
were staying in LA.

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Did he scare you
As much as he scared me?

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At that time,
Bill Murray had already been a big hit

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and just started on SNL that year.

21:51.727 --> 21:53.562
…my seventh winter up here!

21:53.645 --> 21:57.316
Star Wars

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And Paul said, "Bill and I are
going to dinner, so you and Nancy join us,

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and we'll swing at my place,
the Sunset Marquis."

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And Nancy and I are walking there.

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And I just was overwhelmed with,

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"I can't. I can't do it.
I can't do it. I can't."

22:13.457 --> 22:16.251
I'm out of work now.
Hadn't worked for a couple of months,

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had no prospects, and didn't really know
where I was going.

22:19.463 --> 22:23.759
And I said, "I can't go
and pretend to be happy for Bill

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because I don't know what I'm doing."

22:27.971 --> 22:29.639
"I need to sit down."

22:31.016 --> 22:32.017
Son,

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why are you sitting here all alone?

22:36.563 --> 22:40.609
Why aren't you outside
having fun and joining in?

22:41.485 --> 22:43.695
-Well, I just don't feel like it, sir.
-Ah.

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I guess I'm kind of down in the dumps.

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We sat there for about ten minutes
and didn't speak.

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Finally, Nancy said,

22:51.286 --> 22:53.413
"How long are we going to stay here?"

22:53.914 --> 22:56.541
I said, "I don't know."

22:57.709 --> 22:59.503
So we went back to the apartment,

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and I woke up in a funk.

23:03.840 --> 23:07.511
And then we saw War Babies,
who were an improvisational group.

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I was… It was so funny.
It was so fresh. It was inspiring.

23:11.098 --> 23:13.934
I felt inspired just witnessing it.

23:14.726 --> 23:17.771
It was like a…
The… the light bulbs went off.

23:17.854 --> 23:19.606
"Of course this is
what I should be doing."

23:19.689 --> 23:22.651
I phoned Andrew Alexander
the next morning and said,

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"I wanna go into Second City."

23:24.611 --> 23:27.114
He said, "All right."

23:30.700 --> 23:34.413
Marty Short was so strong, like,
immediately when he came in the cast.

23:34.496 --> 23:36.540
Most people… When he joined the cast.

23:36.623 --> 23:40.085
Most people would come in
and sort of try to find their place.

23:40.585 --> 23:44.172
When you come in in the middle of the
show, coming into someone else's roles,

23:44.256 --> 23:48.051
most people would basically try to imitate
the person whose roles they're doing.

23:48.135 --> 23:52.514
He just immediately put his own
ridiculously strong characters

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into these scenes and, like, just…

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Just such great self-confidence,
and so funny.

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I always figured if you walked
on stage and you look totally insane,

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you'd get a laugh.

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And then you were halfway there.

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All these characters, I think,
come from people you know,

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or combinations of people you know.

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And it's kind of good that they do,
because that creates…

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even though there might be
absurdist characters,

24:19.207 --> 24:21.084
it creates a three dimension to them.

24:21.168 --> 24:22.961
Just the thought of it makes my heart beat

24:23.044 --> 24:26.089
like a distant little jungle drum,
I must say.

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I'll do Grimley,
but I'm not sure if they want me to.

24:30.135 --> 24:31.219
No, they would…

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Oh my goodness.

24:41.146 --> 24:42.647
Oh, give me a break!

24:42.731 --> 24:46.067
I couldn't be more excited being
on the David Letterman show, I must say.

24:47.652 --> 24:51.156
There was a scene about
a man and a woman applying for a job.

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And the woman
is beyond experienced and educated.

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And the… the guy
is the biggest dumbass in the world.

24:58.079 --> 25:00.332
-Now, Barbara, maybe you'd like to begin.
-All right.

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Why don't you tell me
about your educational background?

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Uh, well, I have my bachelor degree
in mathematics from Columbia University.

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And I have my master's
in business administration from Stanford.

25:12.469 --> 25:15.972
Oh. Um, now, Ed,
how about your work experience?

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F… for the past several years,

25:18.892 --> 25:21.478
I've been employed
by the Union Oil Company.

25:21.561 --> 25:23.980
Really? Uh, in what capacity, Ed?

25:24.064 --> 25:27.359
I work at Al 76 at the corner
of Cahuenga and Melrose, you know?

25:28.276 --> 25:29.819
He'd done it in the improvs,

25:29.903 --> 25:32.447
but it was the first time
he put Ed in a scene.

25:32.531 --> 25:34.866
And he just blew the scene apart.

25:35.367 --> 25:37.410
In a good way. In the best way.

25:37.911 --> 25:39.788
Made it just ridiculously funny.

25:39.871 --> 25:41.706
It allowed me to play too.

25:41.790 --> 25:45.794
Like, this is insane
that I'm losing to this guy.

25:47.212 --> 25:50.757
Ed Grimley always wore the same shirt.

25:50.840 --> 25:52.676
It was my shirt from 11th grade.

25:54.636 --> 25:57.430
I knew a guy in high school
who always talked…

25:57.514 --> 25:59.391
He wanted to be a photographer.

25:59.474 --> 26:01.101
He was going to, um…

26:01.184 --> 26:03.436
He was always taking slides.

26:03.937 --> 26:08.984
And, um, uh, often,
he wouldn't always develop them

26:09.067 --> 26:12.070
because he knew what they looked like
'cause he'd taken them.

26:13.113 --> 26:16.574
I got a brother-in-law, Ralph.
And Ralph talks like this.

26:17.075 --> 26:19.452
"Hey, babe, how are you doing?
Get you a drink?"

26:19.536 --> 26:22.622
So I kind of combined, uh, the voices.

26:22.706 --> 26:25.083
Next, I was talking like this, I must say.

26:25.166 --> 26:28.128
Peter Aykroyd said, "Marty…"
I greased my hair a little bit.

26:28.795 --> 26:32.299
He said, "Boy, that hair
is standing taller every performance."

26:32.382 --> 26:35.593
So as a joke to make him laugh,
I put it in a point.

26:36.970 --> 26:38.847
And one night, I just did this.

26:39.848 --> 26:41.016
And the audience laughs.

26:41.099 --> 26:43.852
What if someone asks you
to play your triangle at the reception?

26:43.935 --> 26:46.479
It could happen.
I'd best practice in preparation.

26:52.777 --> 26:55.739
Ed is always fascinated by life.

26:55.822 --> 26:58.742
That's very seductive
because it's a great quality.

27:02.370 --> 27:05.540
I remember him doing,
and still doing, that dance,

27:05.624 --> 27:07.917
the Ed Grimley dance,
from when I first met him.

27:08.668 --> 27:11.796
That show was a revelation,
doing Second City,

27:11.880 --> 27:15.467
because I now, for the first time,
was creating characters.

27:17.218 --> 27:18.178
So…

27:21.765 --> 27:26.061
I thought, "If I look, I'm gonna laugh."
So I looked just slightly off of his face.

27:26.144 --> 27:29.064
Then he would do this,
trying to get into my eyeline.

27:32.067 --> 27:35.654
And am I madly in love with Catherine?
Yes, and always have been.

27:35.737 --> 27:37.113
But every guy was.

27:37.197 --> 27:38.657
-No. I love Marty.
-It's true.

27:38.740 --> 27:40.867
When someone makes you laugh,
that's the sexiest thing.

27:40.950 --> 27:43.119
-Absolutely.
-You're all making each other laugh.

27:43.203 --> 27:46.748
You think, "We're laughing.
We are so connected. We gotta try dating."

27:46.831 --> 27:49.626
-Yeah, didn't everybody love each other?
-Yeah, absolutely.

27:50.126 --> 27:52.712
I used to be able to,
in the Godspell picture, go,

27:52.796 --> 27:54.547
Day by day

27:55.048 --> 27:57.092
Day by day

27:57.175 --> 27:58.468
-Oh dear Lord
-No!

27:58.551 --> 28:00.553
-Oh yeah.
-Wait, but you did all those women?

28:00.637 --> 28:01.471
No, I didn't do all those--

28:01.554 --> 28:03.139
I was just saying
everyone who had done each other.

28:06.184 --> 28:10.563
I just left Second City. I just left
two weeks ago after being there…

28:11.648 --> 28:12.565
…for two years.

28:12.649 --> 28:15.610
I mean, it really is true
that it's the best place

28:15.694 --> 28:17.404
to learn a great deal of information.

28:17.487 --> 28:20.365
Then, once you learn it,
you have to do something with it.

28:20.448 --> 28:23.076
You just can't stay there.
So that's why I moved on.

28:23.159 --> 28:25.036
And since then, I… I've… I've

28:25.620 --> 28:27.664
done really nothing with it, but I… I'm…

28:27.747 --> 28:29.874
I would do guest spots on Taxi,

28:29.958 --> 28:31.793
but it was getting a little sparse.

28:32.377 --> 28:35.213
Hi, do you remember me?
I'm the guy in television.

28:35.296 --> 28:38.925
Then I got a call. Would I join SCTV?

28:40.427 --> 28:44.097
We interrupt this program
to bring a special SCTV News announcement.

28:44.180 --> 28:46.349
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm Guy Caballero.

28:46.433 --> 28:48.268
Owner and president of SCTV.

28:48.351 --> 28:50.478
And this is my station manager,
Edith Prickley.

28:50.562 --> 28:51.771
Hello, how's it hanging?

28:52.856 --> 28:55.859
And the consensus at the CBC
is it's going to be gangbusters.

28:55.942 --> 28:57.777
Well, how couldn't it be?
It'd have to be, wouldn't it?

28:57.861 --> 29:01.072
It was on fire with creativity.

29:01.156 --> 29:04.284
I don't know what the ratings were,
but from a critical standpoint,

29:04.367 --> 29:06.703
and if you were in comedy
and show business,

29:06.786 --> 29:08.997
the perception of it
couldn't have been higher.

29:10.331 --> 29:12.459
How do you parody Canadian television,

29:12.542 --> 29:16.087
make it at all interesting to Americans,

29:16.171 --> 29:18.298
who don't know what you're parodying?

29:22.177 --> 29:23.970
Tell me about when Marty entered.

29:24.053 --> 29:26.473
Do we have to?
We're… we're on such a roll.

29:27.765 --> 29:32.771
Marty came in with, of course,
this energy that became infectious.

29:33.938 --> 29:36.274
But at a certain point,
we started to despise the energy.

29:36.357 --> 29:37.609
-We did.
-Enough's enough.

29:37.692 --> 29:40.570
The crowd
is literally buzzing with excitement

29:40.653 --> 29:42.947
as Mr. Rodgers enters the ring.

29:43.031 --> 29:44.449
Oh, look out there, Fred.

29:46.034 --> 29:48.661
Rodgers is chasing her around the ring.

29:48.745 --> 29:50.079
She's running in terror.

29:50.163 --> 29:54.709
Coq au vin or no coq au vin,
this woman is in trouble.

29:54.793 --> 29:57.003
Ladies and gentlemen, the Queen Haters.

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It was thrilling to be in it,
but it was also a little daunting

30:06.930 --> 30:08.598
because I knew everyone in the cast.

30:08.681 --> 30:10.850
Andrea Martin was my sister-in-law.

30:11.392 --> 30:13.603
Boy, are you stupid!

30:14.896 --> 30:16.272
I like that in a man.

30:16.773 --> 30:18.858
My brother Michael was one of the writers.

30:24.322 --> 30:25.740
I knew these people,

30:25.823 --> 30:29.035
so their accomplishments so far
made it daunting.

30:31.371 --> 30:35.083
Your play is deemed by critics
unadulterated trash.

30:35.875 --> 30:38.169
But now, less than two years later,

30:38.253 --> 30:41.464
the lady has bounced back
with courage and chutzpah

30:41.548 --> 30:43.883
to direct herself in her own film.

30:43.967 --> 30:46.803
What intrigues me is one word.

30:47.303 --> 30:48.388
Motive.

30:49.138 --> 30:50.932
You really struck a nerve, Brock.

30:52.475 --> 30:55.019
What SCTV was doing
was creating characters.

30:55.603 --> 30:58.773
And everyone's instinct
from Second City training

30:58.857 --> 31:01.276
was to give it kind of a three dimension.

31:01.985 --> 31:05.446
Even if it was
an abstract, broad character,

31:05.530 --> 31:07.615
it still was grounded
in some kind of truth.

31:07.699 --> 31:09.117
What have you been up to?

31:09.200 --> 31:13.538
You know, just playing around, babe.
Trying to get things happening.

31:14.038 --> 31:15.999
Everybody, smiles tonight now.

31:16.082 --> 31:18.084
Hollywood party!

31:18.167 --> 31:19.502
Everybody's…

31:19.586 --> 31:22.922
And suddenly,
your whole world was just these people.

31:23.006 --> 31:25.091
The demon dad of Fleet Street.

31:25.174 --> 31:26.843
Doo, du-doo-loo, du-doo-du-doo

31:26.926 --> 31:28.678
Don't come near me

31:28.761 --> 31:30.430
Doo-loo, du-doo-loo, du-doo

31:30.513 --> 31:32.223
I'll cut you up and eat you

31:32.307 --> 31:34.475
-Are these talkies or…
-These are talkies.

31:34.559 --> 31:37.729
-Are these still… JVC still photos?
-No, they aren't.

31:37.812 --> 31:39.230
-Impressive unit.
-Thank you.

31:39.314 --> 31:42.525
It's the McKenzies!
They're together. I just panned back.

31:42.609 --> 31:44.777
We can't be together
unless the price is right.

31:44.861 --> 31:45.820
Sorry. You gotta be…

31:45.904 --> 31:48.239
Now, SCTV was a massive hit.

31:48.990 --> 31:50.658
And we won an Emmy for writing.

31:50.742 --> 31:52.243
It was fantastic.

31:52.327 --> 31:55.997
Quickly, our careers became our families.

31:56.080 --> 32:00.293
And, uh… And that's actually
a literal, uh, truth.

32:02.962 --> 32:06.883
Nancy and I got married
on the 22nd of December in Toronto.

32:06.966 --> 32:07.967
And then five days later,

32:08.051 --> 32:11.304
Andrea got married
to Nancy's brother, Bob.

32:14.515 --> 32:18.561
The great strength of that group
was that they were friends and close,

32:18.645 --> 32:20.146
and some of them related.

32:21.814 --> 32:24.984
We spent every holiday together.

32:25.485 --> 32:28.363
There was just a hub of activity,
and nobody was thinking,

32:28.446 --> 32:31.240
"Am I gonna make it? Is he gonna make it?
Is that person going to get it?"

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I don't ever remember any of that.

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Am I getting paid for this?
I'm a pay-or-play.

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Would you stop, please?

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It's quite a group of people, isn't it?
From Godspell and Second City.

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Hi, Harold.

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They're just being themselves.

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Goofing off and talking,
like you are with friends.

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Nancy and I lived
on the same street growing up in Toronto.

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And I first heard of Nancy
through my brother and his goofy friends.

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They were goo-goo and ga-ga over her
because she was so beautiful.

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We were very good friends before.

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But then, when I started dating Eugene,
we became family.

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Hi, honey. How you doing?

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-Is it on?
-Yes, it is.

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Well, we've had a wonderful morning.

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Some relationships

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just keep getting stronger
and stronger and stronger.

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We were stunned.
Suddenly, we couldn't get pregnant.

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That was…

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Th… that… We hadn't even considered that.

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And then we found out
that Nancy had endometriosis.

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So she had to go on drugs.
And your moods are heightened.

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So one night, she was cleaning.
I'd made a peanut butter and jam sandwich.

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"Look, when you clean the sandwich,

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you've got to wipe the peanut butter
off this counter."

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I said, "Okay,
you have to stop those drugs."

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"And we're gonna adopt a baby."

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"Can we?" You know.

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And out the drugs went.
And we adopted Katherine.

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And then Oliver. And then Henry.

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Oh, my baby.
I just have to kiss my baby. One second.

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Dada.

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Dada-da-da-da

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To see him as a father is so, uh, genuine,

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authentic to who he is.

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My next-best girlfriend to my wife.

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It's as fluid and as genuine
as… as his breath.

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That's how much he loves being a dad.

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I never would have left SCTV.

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But it was canceled.

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Then I got a call saying, "We'd like you
to join Saturday Night Live."

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It's Saturday Night Live

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with Julia Louis-Dreyfus,

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Harry Shearer,

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Martin Short.

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The first two pieces I worked on
were with Harry Shearer.

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Oh, it's… it's not gonna be easy.

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I don't swim.

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He doesn't swim.

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So, I mean, no, of course not.

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Nobody is just gonna walk up
and hand us a gold medal,

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especially since men's synchro
isn't even in the '88 Olympics yet.

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That's okay 'cause we could use the time.

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'Cause I'm… I'm not that strong a swimmer.

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The next piece we shot was Lifestyles
of the Relatives of the Rich and Famous.

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…Central Park,
New York's tree-lined melting pot,

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sits the hot dog stand

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managed by Katharine Hepburn's
maternal third cousin, Nelson.

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We caught up with him recently.

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We don't communicate at all. Never did.

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I tried through letter,

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through phone call,
anonymous sometimes, and she'd hang up.

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One time, she stopped by here,

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and I said, "Kate, don't you know me?"

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She just looked at me,
and she said, "More mustard, please."

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And after the first show,

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my manager came up and said,

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"Well, your stock just went up 3,000%."

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It was an amazing year.
But I remember it was grueling.

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Saturday Night Live, it's very intense.
A long schedule.

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Especially if you're, uh,
writing and performing.

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I like to write with, you know,
Mike there, Dick Blasucci, Paul Flaherty,

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and a tape recorder going.

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And I would get up and improvise.

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And when I was doing SNL,
I was just by myself in the office.

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-You hated it.
-Oh, I hated it.

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I went into Dick Ebersol's office

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and said, "I would like to quit."

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He said, "Look,
first of all, you have a contract,

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but this must be
a pretty goddamn tough place

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if a good guy like you wants to leave."

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"I'll tell you what,

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if you feel this way at Christmas,

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I'll let you out of your contract."

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Because he knew, as he later said,

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that by Christmas, I'd see
the light at the end of the tunnel,

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and I also would have figured out
how to do this from week to week.

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You seem defensive.

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I'm not being defensive.
You're the one who's being defensive.

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Why is it always
the other person who's being defensive?

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Have you ever asked yourself that?
Why don't you ask yourself that?

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If you make them three-dimensional
in some sort of human connection,

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then you can really go.

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Mr. Thurm, we appreciate your willingness
to talk with us tonight.

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What do you mean by that?

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Mr. Thurm, as you are well aware,
your critics, and there are many--

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No, there aren't.

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How do you come up
with a character like that?

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It was so incredibly original.

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There was a… a makeup artist
that year on SNL, Marion Siebert.

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She was the most defensive human being

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you had ever met in your life.

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You'd sit in her chair.

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And she'd dab. "Look at me."

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"Your features don't match.
This is tough for me."

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She's dabbing.

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I'd say, "Gee, I look pale.
Don't I, Marion?"

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She'd say, "I know that.
You don't think I know that?"

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"I'm a makeup artist. I would know that."

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Harry Shearer said,
"You should do that character."

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I said, "But she's gonna
actually be there."

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"Oh, that'll be the fun of it,"
said Harry. And, uh…

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And every time we did the piece,
I was afraid I would get caught.

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I know that. Why wouldn't I know that?

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It's my company. I'm quite aware of that.

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Is it me?

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It's him, right?

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And she never found out
until the very end.

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Her assistant was drunk at the wrap party.

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"Don't you know who Nathan Thurm is?"

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"How dumb are you?"

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"You're Nathan Thurm!"

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She said, "I know that. You don't think
I know that? I know that. I would--"

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What about Saturday Night Live?
Are you going back?

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-No. No, I'm not.
-Why?

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Because it's a very tough show to do,
and it takes your total concentration.

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So your family has to kind of wave goodbye
most of the year.

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Hi, Mommy.

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Hi, Dad.

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You've seen these thighs, haven't you?

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…my home
And I don't give a damn about tomorrow

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I love my little house

39:34.997 --> 39:36.582
It's Toronto

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Welcome

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to 590 Indian Road.

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And this is Martin Short's wife.

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The controversially misunderstood

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Nancy Dolman.

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Or otherwise known as…

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The Duchess of Dolman.

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Bum-bum-bum-ba

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Martin Short.

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He's the one in the middle.

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That is Martin at age

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nine.

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That's Martin, second from the left.

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Martin, would you like to pick up
a dish towel and give me a hand here?

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This is a heavier-set Martin Short
in the summer of 1963.

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There was a very, very great deal of love
in that house.

40:45.568 --> 40:48.320
I was the youngest of five,
and everyone was hysterical.

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Parents and all the kids,
so I just… That was all I knew.

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I mean, we would do recordings.

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Good afternoon, ladies
and gentlemen. Good evening too.

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People would sing at the piano,
make fun of each other.

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Nora, you start being funny.

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My name is, um…

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Get a lot of laughs with this name?

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Why are you trying to get over
you can't get a laugh with a name?

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You want my last name?

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Might be funny.

41:19.268 --> 41:20.519
Jenny Cardinal.

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Got a laugh!

41:24.690 --> 41:26.942
There was verbal freedom in our house.

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So you could talk back to your father,

41:29.528 --> 41:32.698
and he would overpower you
with his Irish intellect.

41:32.781 --> 41:34.325
Take the microphone, Dad.

41:34.825 --> 41:36.160
Take the microphone.

41:36.243 --> 41:37.703
Just take it. Sing something.

41:37.786 --> 41:40.831
Dad, would you come and sing
before he goes crazy?

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There will come a day

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And youth will pass away

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Everyone will say, "I love you"

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Now, let's meet Olive Short,

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concert mistress
of the Hamilton Philharmonic Orchestra.

41:58.015 --> 41:59.725
She is also the wife of a Stelco-ite,

41:59.808 --> 42:03.729
CP Short, the general sales manager,
screw products division.

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She was the first female
concert mistress, they used to call it,

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in North America from 1952 to '62,
at Hamilton Philharmonic.

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My mother was a sweet angel of a person.

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My father had so much edge.

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I think that with any family,

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if you have one grounded,
sweet, angelic person,

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whether the mother or the father,
then that balances everything out.

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-You had three brothers, one sister?
-Three brothers, one sister.

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Your brother, David,
you were very fond of him, were you not?

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Yeah, he was my hero.

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He was your hero. Why?

42:54.113 --> 42:56.740
Because he was,
I guess, the eldest brother,

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and because he was phenomenal.

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I mean, he died when I was 12,
so sometimes out of that comes legend,

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but the legend in this case
was really very deserved, I think.

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David was handsome.

43:10.963 --> 43:12.423
He was funny.

43:12.923 --> 43:16.260
He was so sweet, ridiculously sweet,

43:16.343 --> 43:17.428
and adored.

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Trumpet player, cool guy.

43:22.182 --> 43:23.475
He was 14 years older.

43:23.559 --> 43:26.687
When he came home,
probably at four in the morning,

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and now it's 7:30,

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I would go up to his room.

43:30.190 --> 43:34.903
A lot of 19-year-olds would say,
"Get out. I'm sleeping."

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David would let me get in bed with him,

43:38.365 --> 43:39.867
but he would play giant,

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where I had to try to steal his pillow

43:44.622 --> 43:48.417
while the giant was sleeping,
so it allowed him to continue to sleep.

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But as I got the pillow just far out,
his arm would come around me,

43:52.338 --> 43:54.048
and the giant would capture me.

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That's who he was.

43:57.801 --> 44:00.012
One day, I was at Camp Juaniquita,

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and I remember waking up depressed.

44:06.477 --> 44:09.897
The counselor said,
"Your brother's been in an accident,

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and it killed him."

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That's how he put it.

44:14.151 --> 44:16.820
And I said, "Is he okay?"

44:18.572 --> 44:19.865
"No, it killed him."

44:24.745 --> 44:27.081
I mean, it was like nothing made sense.

44:27.790 --> 44:31.293
And then I had a dream.

44:32.294 --> 44:36.674
And I'm telling you, I can see it
right now, and it was in Technicolor.

44:38.217 --> 44:42.930
And I was sitting by a stream
in the woods,

44:43.013 --> 44:44.556
and David came up.

44:44.640 --> 44:46.183
He looked handsome.

44:46.266 --> 44:48.644
He was wearing
this beautiful Ban-Lon shirt.

44:49.144 --> 44:50.729
And he said,

44:52.648 --> 44:56.026
"I'm fine. Everything is wonderful."

44:56.110 --> 44:57.778
"And I'll see you in a minute."

44:59.405 --> 45:00.948
And I woke up.

45:02.574 --> 45:04.451
And a cloud had lifted.

45:10.124 --> 45:13.544
At the funeral, Mom developed a cough.
She started coughing at the funeral.

45:14.753 --> 45:18.841
She had had breast cancer in 1957,
which I never knew about.

45:19.925 --> 45:24.638
And by the end of that year,
she is really going downhill.

45:25.305 --> 45:28.851
Nora tells a story
that she was nursing in California.

45:28.934 --> 45:30.686
She knew Mom was going down,

45:30.769 --> 45:33.439
so she flew back to be her nurse.

45:33.522 --> 45:36.692
And Nora was present
when the doctor came in and said,

45:36.775 --> 45:38.694
"Olive, you've got three months to live."

45:40.320 --> 45:43.449
And Mom's response was, after he left,

45:43.532 --> 45:46.243
"This can't happen.
I have another child to raise."

45:46.326 --> 45:48.746
So she said to Nora, "Pass me the grapes."

45:48.829 --> 45:51.790
And that became a… a symbol
of courage in our family,

45:51.874 --> 45:53.167
"Pass me the grapes."

45:56.503 --> 45:58.213
And then she came home

45:58.714 --> 46:04.386
and went into this remarkable,
you-can't-explain-it remission,

46:05.345 --> 46:07.681
and was in perfect health
for the next two years.

46:09.600 --> 46:14.146
But by the time
I was in grade 13, she died.

46:18.942 --> 46:21.779
Mom died, and Dad's health went fast.

46:22.654 --> 46:25.616
It was just strokes that diminished him,

46:26.116 --> 46:29.119
from being the most powerful guy
that walked in the room

46:29.203 --> 46:31.455
to just quieter, quieter.

46:34.625 --> 46:37.961
He and I took a world cruise
for five weeks, the two of us.

46:39.505 --> 46:43.383
But even when we were in Ireland,
he didn't want to see his siblings

46:43.926 --> 46:46.261
because he was not in great shape.

46:47.596 --> 46:49.598
He had arteriosclerosis.

46:50.098 --> 46:51.725
He drank gin and ginger,

46:51.808 --> 46:55.270
but it was the two packs of smokes
that he had every day.

46:57.898 --> 46:59.900
You had to handle tragedy
when you were a lad.

46:59.983 --> 47:01.735
-Right.
-You lost a brother. He died.

47:01.819 --> 47:04.154
I lost my brother David when I was 12.

47:04.238 --> 47:06.782
My mother when I was 18.
My father when I was 20.

47:07.741 --> 47:09.910
Tough, being the youngest
in the family as well.

47:09.993 --> 47:13.205
Right. At that age, or any age,
when you lose someone in your family,

47:13.288 --> 47:15.332
you have a choice.
You actually have a choice.

47:15.415 --> 47:16.917
"How do I handle this?"

47:17.000 --> 47:19.044
-This is a life lesson.
-Right.

47:19.127 --> 47:22.923
And so, do I… do I collapse?
Do I become defeated forever?

47:23.006 --> 47:27.010
Or do I actually kind of learn
that life is short,

47:27.094 --> 47:30.097
and have a glass of wine
and laugh and fun,

47:30.180 --> 47:32.683
and appreciate these people,
and never let them go?

47:32.766 --> 47:33.934
See, that's, I think, the great secret.

47:34.017 --> 47:37.521
If you never let them go from your life,
then they're always with your life.

47:37.604 --> 47:39.898
Because before you know it,
you know, you'll be with them.

47:44.444 --> 47:47.656
My family adores each other to this day.

47:50.492 --> 47:53.829
I think Uncle Mike is probably
the most similar to my dad.

47:54.621 --> 47:56.206
They worked a lot together.

47:56.290 --> 47:57.249
-Ugh!
-What?

47:58.000 --> 48:00.002
Uncle Brian and Aunt Nora,
I think, are a little more alike

48:00.085 --> 48:03.088
and probably more like their mother,
a little more sweeter.

48:03.797 --> 48:07.551
There's certainly always
the laughter and the jokes.

48:10.220 --> 48:12.681
Who do you think
is the meanest one in the family?

48:12.764 --> 48:15.559
You. And everyone would agree with that.

48:15.642 --> 48:18.270
-You wouldn't even hesitate for a second?
-Not a second.

48:18.353 --> 48:20.897
And if you asked Nora,
she'd say, "Michael."

48:20.981 --> 48:22.482
Nora has no credibility.

48:22.566 --> 48:25.152
-Brian would say the same.
-Brian has no credibility.

48:25.235 --> 48:27.195
Okay, so no one has credibility.

48:27.279 --> 48:30.198
But the answer is,
you're the most like Dad,

48:30.824 --> 48:32.659
and everyone agrees.

48:34.536 --> 48:36.038
The four of us get together.

48:36.121 --> 48:39.708
We have hilarity, drink rum and Cokes,

48:39.791 --> 48:43.587
laugh, insult each other,
and like nothing's changed.

48:43.670 --> 48:45.172
Very close family.

48:48.091 --> 48:51.303
We used to call it
"Maintaining the merry theme of life."

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And that was it.

48:53.013 --> 48:56.224
And sometimes,
it gets hard to do, you know?

48:56.308 --> 49:00.479
But, you know, you have to admire someone
that… that continues to do that.

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And I think this is why
people, uh, really like Marty so much,

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'cause he is always trying to maintain
the merry theme of life.

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-Did you get--
-Yes, it's the four Shorts.

49:11.406 --> 49:14.034
-Yes, it's…
-Group… Group hug, group hug.

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And here we are, Ken, after so many years.

49:16.620 --> 49:18.080
-What's she doing?
-I don't know.

49:18.163 --> 49:20.123
-Group hug!
-Group hug, group hug, group hug!

49:20.207 --> 49:23.126
We all came from the same womb.

49:23.210 --> 49:26.171
-Group hug, group hug, group hug!
-Group hug!

49:27.255 --> 49:29.591
There once were five,
and now there's only four.

49:29.675 --> 49:30.717
Group hug, group hug!

49:30.801 --> 49:32.386
Misery, misery…

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We had a bad eight years.

49:34.304 --> 49:36.264
-That was not a good eight years.
-Yeah.

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We had speed dial to the funeral parlor.

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-Yes.
-But there were laughs during those years.

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-Yes.
-But that's the point.

49:49.194 --> 49:53.031
We're having trouble breaking through
that wall of conversation, Larry.

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-Steve might join us for dinner.
-All right.

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All right, I'll make you coffee.

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Eleven, twelve,

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thirteen.

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As I pour, I'll do
my Richard Burton impersonation. Ready?

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For God's sake,

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let us tell sad stories
of the death of kings.

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How some have been deposed,
some slain in war,

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some poisoned by their wives,
all murdered.

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All right. I'm ready, Lawrence.

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What do you want in your coffee? Mustard?

50:38.243 --> 50:41.788
A couple of years ago when you came here,
you were just off of SCTV,

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then part of Saturday Night Live.

50:43.749 --> 50:47.127
The last three or four times
you've been here, you're a leading man.

50:47.210 --> 50:49.421
You're in major, big budget films.

50:49.921 --> 50:52.215
-Pretty good deal.
-Yeah, it's good. It's good.

50:52.299 --> 50:57.304
Although I do feel that it's possible
for it to just end.

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The first movie I made was Three Amigos.

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It was equal billing,
but they were two big, big stars.

51:18.241 --> 51:20.577
-I'm Lucky Day.
-I'm Ned Nederlander.

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I'm Dusty Bottoms. Together, we're…

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The Three Amigos!

51:27.793 --> 51:29.002
I was aware of Marty.

51:29.086 --> 51:31.463
He was… To me, he was known.

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He always calls himself "The Cheap Amigo."

51:33.965 --> 51:37.219
For people watching who might not know,
I think each of us should say our name.

51:37.302 --> 51:38.595
Martin Short.

51:41.848 --> 51:44.392
We did bond very quickly over laughter.

51:47.687 --> 51:50.357
Now, that was a terrific scene
you just did with me.

51:50.440 --> 51:52.526
It was fabulous, and I'll tell you why.

51:52.609 --> 51:55.654
It's because you managed
to blend into the background

51:55.737 --> 51:57.781
and not stick out
and not try and be funny.

51:57.864 --> 52:00.742
That's important when you're in a scene
with me, is to do that.

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Because if you're out there
trying to be funny,

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the audience is going to hate you for it.

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Because I'll be on the screen,
and they'll know my aura will extend out.

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You don't want to ever interfere
with my aura of comedy.

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When you're doing the scene with Chevy,
that's when I would go big.

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Really mug…

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Mug, big, and try to take.
What is it when you're in a scene with me?

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Underplay, go into the background.

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With Chevy?

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-Mug, mug, mug.
-Great. Terrific. Great.

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-Thank you, Steve.
-It's okay. Aw.

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-It's nice. Thank you.
-It's okay.

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We'd play Scrabble a lot.

52:37.404 --> 52:39.781
I remember I passed Chevy
a note that said,

52:39.865 --> 52:43.368
"I'll let you ball my wife Nancy
for an E or a Q."

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And Chevy, that fit into his wheelhouse
of what he thought was funny.

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He said, "I'm gonna pick you up.
You and I will drive to work every day."

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And so very quickly, we all bonded.

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In life, sometimes you hit a green light.

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And sometimes, for no reason,
it's a red light.

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Is there something out there
that is really so bad?

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I can't really recommend Three Amigos.

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Three Amigos opened second
to Golden Child with Eddie Murphy.

53:18.737 --> 53:24.201
But it's become so revered
by, particularly, boys in their forties.

53:24.701 --> 53:28.997
It's interesting how he feels
about failures. You know? It, um…

53:29.497 --> 53:33.460
Uh, Lorne, Steve, and Marty,

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if you bring up Three Amigos,

53:35.795 --> 53:39.132
only recently will they embrace
that people like it.

53:39.216 --> 53:42.010
When I first met Marty
and told him how much it meant to me,

53:42.093 --> 53:45.513
he went, "Yeah, but it didn't open.
It lost to Golden Child." Like that.

53:46.014 --> 53:50.185
I remember Justin Timberlake telling him
how much Three Amigos meant.

53:50.268 --> 53:52.187
Over time, it started to sink in.

53:52.270 --> 53:57.400
Like, "Hey, we… we don't remember
that it lost to Golden Child."

53:57.484 --> 54:00.612
"We just think it's a great movie
and you need to accept that."

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But at that time, no one's saying
Marty Short's a movie star.

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Then we make Innerspace.

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Innerspace is a very, very good movie.

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It's testing through the roof.

54:15.085 --> 54:17.337
And you don't know anything
about the experiment?

54:17.420 --> 54:18.380
What experiment?

54:18.463 --> 54:20.632
I've been miniaturized.

54:20.715 --> 54:24.052
I was supposed to be injected
into the body of a laboratory rabbit,

54:24.135 --> 54:26.888
and somehow, I got inside you instead.

54:26.972 --> 54:29.516
And then no one goes to see Innerspace.

54:33.561 --> 54:35.105
We make Cross My Heart.

54:35.188 --> 54:39.943
If the next five guys
that you go out with are worse than me,

54:40.860 --> 54:41.987
will you give me a call?

54:50.370 --> 54:52.122
No, I don't think so.

54:55.166 --> 54:58.211
I don't know if you've looked
at the receipts of that one.

54:58.712 --> 55:02.132
You make movies with a bunch of people
for three months,

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then you never see them again.

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You and I made it a determination,
you were the executive producer,

55:08.471 --> 55:10.974
that we would continue on
in a relationship.

55:11.725 --> 55:13.184
That was 40 years ago.

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People regret things their whole
life. But I don't ever get that from you.

55:18.898 --> 55:23.695
No, I'm… I… I… I kind of adhere
to the, uh, Sinatra lyric…

55:23.778 --> 55:27.741
Regrets I've had a few
But then again, too few to mention

55:27.824 --> 55:30.118
That's kind of the philosophy
I like to go with.

55:32.537 --> 55:34.622
I feed the chickens.

55:35.248 --> 55:37.417
And I gather the eggs.

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Big boat.

55:38.793 --> 55:39.711
The big boat?

55:39.794 --> 55:40.754
Yeah.

55:41.421 --> 55:42.297
Did you hear it?

55:42.380 --> 55:43.923
-I hear it.
-Yeah.

55:45.633 --> 55:50.388
I remember, in 1987,
Nancy and I bought our house.

55:51.264 --> 55:54.476
And it was based on two movies
I was about to make.

55:55.060 --> 55:57.896
The second I signed the mortgage,
one movie fell through.

56:00.148 --> 56:03.151
I thought, "I don't deserve this."
You know, "I'm 37."

56:03.234 --> 56:07.280
"I don't deserve to look at the ocean
from my living room."

56:09.074 --> 56:12.619
I'd say to Nancy,
"What if we can't keep this?"

56:12.702 --> 56:14.788
"What if we can't sustain it?"

56:14.871 --> 56:18.375
She said, "Well, then we'll move."

56:18.458 --> 56:21.461
It's like, "We're the… we're the gimmick."

56:21.961 --> 56:22.837
Us.

56:22.921 --> 56:26.299
And as you can see in his career,
something fails…

56:26.383 --> 56:27.967
Sorry, it's the truth.

56:28.051 --> 56:30.261
And he just, the next day,
steps right up to the plate

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and invents something else.

56:32.514 --> 56:37.143
In 1992, I did my first
Broadway musical, with Bernadette Peters.

56:37.894 --> 56:40.522
-Paula
-That name has a ring to me

56:40.605 --> 56:44.692
-I'm gaga over Paula
-I tingle when you sing to me

56:44.776 --> 56:48.863
I get complete satisfaction of doing
a great take in front of a camera.

56:48.947 --> 56:53.618
But to be in opening night
and finishing a big production number

56:53.701 --> 56:56.663
and have the audience cheering,
that's out of the movies.

56:56.746 --> 57:01.960
You have a chip on your shoulder
The size of the Empire State

57:02.043 --> 57:04.796
How do you get
a Broadway show? How does that happen?

57:04.879 --> 57:07.590
Well, the… the…
I was doing a film in San Juan.

57:07.674 --> 57:10.176
How does that happen?

57:11.094 --> 57:13.638
I sing, for example, but I'm in comedy.

57:13.721 --> 57:16.558
If you sing in comedy,
you can't legitimately sing.

57:16.641 --> 57:19.936
Because people are waiting
for the sandbag to drop on you.

57:20.019 --> 57:22.272
I've seen him before,
but never knew he could sing.

57:22.355 --> 57:24.524
-I never knew he could sing.
-I didn't know.

57:24.607 --> 57:25.942
I knew it all along.

57:26.442 --> 57:28.027
The world finds out tonight.

57:28.111 --> 57:29.446
It's gonna change your life.

57:29.529 --> 57:32.407
Well, it's certainly a dream
I always had wanted to do.

57:32.490 --> 57:36.536
I think that, uh, every actor has to do
a stage experience in New York

57:36.619 --> 57:39.497
or he's not truly, truly fulfilled
as an actor.

57:42.333 --> 57:47.589
There are so, um, many, many people
that I… I really must thank

57:47.672 --> 57:49.799
and should, but

57:50.550 --> 57:53.845
the reality is I did it all myself.

57:56.556 --> 57:58.892
He has a new motion picture,
uh, opening up now

57:58.975 --> 58:02.270
all over the country with Steve Martin,
entitled Father of the Bride.

58:02.353 --> 58:03.354
Martin…

58:04.647 --> 58:06.608
People tell me
you're a standout in this film.

58:06.691 --> 58:08.318
That you steal the motion picture.

58:08.401 --> 58:11.654
Well, no, I wouldn't say that's true,
but it's a very funny film.

58:11.738 --> 58:14.073
Uh, how would you describe
Father of the Bride?

58:14.157 --> 58:16.493
-Well, I think it's a touching film.
-Uh-huh.

58:16.576 --> 58:20.622
I think it's a comic film. I think it has
very moving emotional moments.

58:20.705 --> 58:24.042
And it has the high comedy,
and it has the low comedy.

58:24.125 --> 58:26.127
Hello!

58:26.211 --> 58:29.339
I apologize for keeping you waiting.
I'm Franck. A pleasure to meet you.

58:30.465 --> 58:33.426
It's another example of being so extreme,

58:34.177 --> 58:35.637
and pulling it off.

58:36.262 --> 58:37.972
The idea was that Franck

58:38.056 --> 58:42.185
symbolized for Steve Martin
his alienation from the process.

58:43.186 --> 58:46.105
We have problem.
Hanck does not now want to prep a chicken.

58:46.189 --> 58:47.482
He doesn't what?

58:47.565 --> 58:50.693
Kimberly Williams and Diane
could understand him,

58:50.777 --> 58:51.903
and I couldn't.

58:52.403 --> 58:55.740
But to what degree? What degree?

58:56.449 --> 58:57.533
Start.

58:57.617 --> 58:59.285
You have not made up your list yet,

58:59.369 --> 59:02.664
but you know you want a wedding
at home on January 6th, right?

59:02.747 --> 59:05.750
The executives, they were apprehensive
about this character.

59:05.833 --> 59:09.337
You have not made up your list yet,
but you want a wedding at home on January…

59:09.420 --> 59:11.673
And we would keep dialing it down.

59:12.257 --> 59:14.300
So... you have not made up your list yet,

59:14.384 --> 59:17.512
but you know you want a wedding
at home on January 6th, right?

59:17.595 --> 59:18.680
Finally, I remember Steve saying,

59:18.763 --> 59:21.849
"Guys, there's no joke here.
I understand it perfectly."

59:21.933 --> 59:24.811
Please, with all due respect,
welcome to the '90s.

59:29.607 --> 59:33.194
You can't understand anything you say.
Are you saying anything when you speak?

59:33.278 --> 59:36.239
I said to Charles,
it's fabulous to be here, you know.

59:36.322 --> 59:37.865
You look very handsome in the tie.

59:37.949 --> 59:40.451
I wouldn't go with that color tie,
but that shirt's nice.

59:40.535 --> 59:41.369
Right.

59:41.452 --> 59:43.997
Now, Steve plays the father of the bride,

59:44.080 --> 59:47.500
and, uh, do you like Steve
more than you like me?

59:48.126 --> 59:49.711
I'll… I'll tell you this,

59:49.794 --> 59:53.339
and, um, this is going to make me
sound shallow, and it shouldn't

59:53.423 --> 59:55.591
because if it is,
then I'm being misinterpreted.

59:55.675 --> 59:58.177
Steve can do more for me than you.

59:59.429 --> 01:00:02.598
Can you just act like a human boy
for one minute here?

01:00:03.182 --> 01:00:04.726
Look at me like a person.

01:00:05.226 --> 01:00:08.646
You can't do it for more than a few
seconds. Look at me like a human boy!

01:00:09.147 --> 01:00:10.440
Don't mess around with me.

01:00:11.024 --> 01:00:12.817
You're gonna be back on that plane.

01:00:13.609 --> 01:00:14.694
You understand me?

01:00:15.194 --> 01:00:17.238
I understand that I love you.

01:00:17.739 --> 01:00:20.366
I was 40 when I played
a ten-year-old named Clifford.

01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:23.745
Marty Short is a great actor,

01:00:23.828 --> 01:00:25.705
and because he does comedic characters,

01:00:25.788 --> 01:00:27.832
possibly people don't recognize
that as much,

01:00:27.915 --> 01:00:30.418
but, you know,
comedic characters aren't easier.

01:00:30.501 --> 01:00:31.544
They're harder.

01:00:33.421 --> 01:00:35.923
Are you…
are you a comedian who acts, Martin,

01:00:36.007 --> 01:00:38.343
or are you an actor who likes comedy?

01:00:38.426 --> 01:00:41.554
I guess I'm an actor who does comedy,

01:00:42.472 --> 01:00:44.557
or anything you have.

01:00:45.683 --> 01:00:48.227
Kind of impatient
for a big-time headshrinker, aren't you?

01:00:49.228 --> 01:00:51.272
How about you let me explain it
my way, okay?

01:00:51.356 --> 01:00:52.857
Thanks, that'd be great.

01:00:53.358 --> 01:00:55.860
What makes a movie attractive to you?

01:00:55.943 --> 01:00:57.528
It's not the money…

01:00:57.612 --> 01:00:59.781
Mm-hmm. It's money.

01:01:01.699 --> 01:01:03.326
May I have the camera, please?

01:01:04.786 --> 01:01:05.953
Yeah, sure, boss.

01:01:07.246 --> 01:01:12.335
Well over 90% of my career
was a total and utter commercial failure.

01:01:13.002 --> 01:01:17.507
But I was in enough successful things
to keep the wheels spinning.

01:01:17.590 --> 01:01:20.593
You mean they can read our thoughts?

01:01:20.676 --> 01:01:22.303
I don't know you.

01:01:22.387 --> 01:01:23.513
I don't know your work.

01:01:24.097 --> 01:01:27.475
But I think that you are
a very, very talented young man,

01:01:27.558 --> 01:01:29.560
and I'm never wrong about these things.

01:01:30.603 --> 01:01:32.397
I… I've never had a big game plan.

01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:36.567
I… I've never been
necessarily commercially, uh, savvy.

01:01:37.318 --> 01:01:38.152
Asshole.

01:01:38.236 --> 01:01:39.570
Yes?

01:01:39.654 --> 01:01:40.947
I've had lots of things fail.

01:01:41.030 --> 01:01:42.365
I've never then looked in the mirror
and said,

01:01:42.448 --> 01:01:45.284
"I am not worthy.
I've been… I've been put in my place."

01:01:45.368 --> 01:01:47.870
You are actually a predator.

01:01:48.871 --> 01:01:50.832
People are gonna want you to own that.

01:01:55.253 --> 01:01:56.963
As opposed to…

01:01:59.257 --> 01:02:01.426
What are you exactly, Mitch?

01:02:02.009 --> 01:02:07.056
I think it's insane if someone says, "Oh,
I had a horrible time making that movie."

01:02:07.140 --> 01:02:10.560
"I hated making that movie,
but please let it be successful."

01:02:10.643 --> 01:02:13.521
If it's only gonna be successful
at the box office,

01:02:13.604 --> 01:02:15.773
that's very unlikely.

01:02:16.357 --> 01:02:20.194
The experience you can have in your soul
is the experience of doing it.

01:02:20.278 --> 01:02:23.823
Was it creative? Was it fun?
Did you have fun dinners?

01:02:23.906 --> 01:02:25.950
Was the hang good?

01:02:27.326 --> 01:02:28.286
What's that?

01:02:28.369 --> 01:02:29.662
Aha!

01:02:29.745 --> 01:02:33.458
Entertainment tonight!

01:02:33.541 --> 01:02:37.545
Entertainment tonight!

01:02:53.561 --> 01:02:56.606
We're staging a breakfast.
I've already eaten.

01:02:57.899 --> 01:03:00.026
Oh my God, am I hungry.

01:03:01.319 --> 01:03:03.279
Famished.

01:03:03.988 --> 01:03:05.364
Oh boy.

01:03:07.867 --> 01:03:09.702
Mm, it's so good.

01:03:15.958 --> 01:03:17.293
It's Snug Harbour,

01:03:17.376 --> 01:03:20.838
and I'm having my first
vodka tonic of the season.

01:03:21.339 --> 01:03:23.883
For, you see,
it's the first day of summer.

01:03:23.966 --> 01:03:25.635
I s… I s…

01:03:26.135 --> 01:03:27.094
I say…

01:03:27.637 --> 01:03:30.139
I… I say
it's the first day of summer, Henry.

01:03:30.223 --> 01:03:32.350
-Are you happy to be here, Daddy?
-Yes.

01:03:33.476 --> 01:03:36.938
Our fabulous cottage
that we own in Canada…

01:03:37.021 --> 01:03:38.564
Mom, watch how high I go.

01:03:38.648 --> 01:03:40.608
…was bought by Nancy,

01:03:41.108 --> 01:03:43.194
sight unseen by me.

01:03:43.277 --> 01:03:44.904
And those are the children.

01:03:45.738 --> 01:03:47.740
I remember standing at the counter

01:03:47.823 --> 01:03:50.076
while she told Marty
that she had bought the cottage.

01:03:51.035 --> 01:03:52.912
I said, "Nancy, has he seen the cottage?"

01:03:52.995 --> 01:03:54.539
"No, he hasn't seen it."

01:03:54.622 --> 01:03:58.835
And I'm thinking, "God, I…
Could I do that? Maybe I should do that."

01:04:00.378 --> 01:04:01.921
I always did whatever Nancy told me.

01:04:02.004 --> 01:04:03.464
That's part of Nancy's character.

01:04:03.548 --> 01:04:06.926
"Larry, why don't you go get those,
and pick them up and bring them here?"

01:04:07.009 --> 01:04:10.388
"Yes, Nancy." Wouldn't you just do
whatever she told you to do?

01:04:10.888 --> 01:04:14.141
She had such… loving authority.

01:04:15.142 --> 01:04:16.936
Hey, say something funny.

01:04:17.019 --> 01:04:19.063
Oh… Oh, uh…

01:04:19.564 --> 01:04:21.315
Here… Here with the guys…

01:04:25.570 --> 01:04:28.364
It is one of those places
that when you come here,

01:04:28.447 --> 01:04:32.493
even if you haven't been here for a year,
you feel like you haven't left.

01:04:34.203 --> 01:04:37.415
I always thought it was like
if heaven existed,

01:04:38.040 --> 01:04:42.962
then maybe heaven is
your favorite place in eternity.

01:04:44.505 --> 01:04:46.632
And that would be this place.

01:04:51.220 --> 01:04:52.722
There's Meg Kasdan.

01:04:53.222 --> 01:04:54.348
Let go, Ollie.

01:04:54.432 --> 01:04:55.725
Hi, Marty.

01:04:55.808 --> 01:04:59.645
-Hello. Welcome to Snug Harbour.
-Thank you. It's quite fabulous.

01:04:59.729 --> 01:05:01.731
And there, of course,

01:05:02.899 --> 01:05:04.025
Larry Kasdan.

01:05:04.108 --> 01:05:05.234
Hello, Martin.

01:05:05.318 --> 01:05:06.444
Hi, Lar.

01:05:06.527 --> 01:05:10.448
It's so great here. Congratulations
to you on this fabulous place.

01:05:10.531 --> 01:05:14.160
Thank you. Well, I couldn't
have done it without Cross My Heart.

01:05:15.286 --> 01:05:17.705
Well, I feel re…

01:05:17.788 --> 01:05:19.415
Responsible for some of it.

01:05:23.085 --> 01:05:27.214
From the moment that you get there,
it's full-on Marty's world.

01:05:35.973 --> 01:05:38.809
Excuse me, Andrea.
What are you playing, kids?

01:05:38.893 --> 01:05:39.852
Monopoly.

01:05:40.853 --> 01:05:42.188
Burgers on the barbecue.

01:05:42.271 --> 01:05:45.107
We got some Canadian produce
being cut up in the kitchen

01:05:45.191 --> 01:05:49.695
that Catherine O'Hara
is graciously preparing.

01:05:49.779 --> 01:05:50.696
Wow.

01:05:50.780 --> 01:05:51.656
Welcome...

01:05:51.739 --> 01:05:54.575
Oh, thank you so much
for letting us enjoy…

01:05:54.659 --> 01:05:56.994
-to Dolshor Manor.
-…the beauty of Snug Harbour.

01:05:57.495 --> 01:06:00.873
It is good.
Does your agent know you're here?

01:06:02.875 --> 01:06:06.754
Oh, my agent's not interested
in where I am at any time.

01:06:08.923 --> 01:06:10.925
Have you had any pie
since you've been here?

01:06:11.008 --> 01:06:12.051
Lots of pie, yeah.

01:06:12.134 --> 01:06:14.971
-I… I don't…
-Well, I'm... I look like Gleason.

01:06:15.680 --> 01:06:19.266
And he gives you this drink
that he found in Jamaica.

01:06:20.059 --> 01:06:24.188
Ting. Now I'm gonna make you a drink.

01:06:24.689 --> 01:06:25.606
Ow.

01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:29.527
Oh, yeah. That's right.
You have an alcohol problem.

01:06:30.027 --> 01:06:30.945
There we go.

01:06:31.028 --> 01:06:32.738
We use the ice.

01:06:32.822 --> 01:06:35.616
And by the way,
I feel that bathing is for suckers,

01:06:35.700 --> 01:06:37.618
so I haven't washed these for a while.

01:06:37.702 --> 01:06:39.328
Then you open the Ting.

01:06:42.123 --> 01:06:44.208
Ooh. Ooh.

01:06:45.209 --> 01:06:47.503
Ooh. There you go.

01:06:56.679 --> 01:06:59.432
This is my little girl. My little…

01:06:59.932 --> 01:07:01.434
Come on, Tom. Yes.

01:07:01.517 --> 01:07:02.435
-Sixty…
-73!

01:07:02.518 --> 01:07:05.604
Sixty-nine! O sixty-nine!

01:07:06.772 --> 01:07:09.775
Oh, Marty. Me with my extra weight.

01:07:10.609 --> 01:07:12.028
Try not to hit it too hard.

01:07:12.111 --> 01:07:13.904
Hello? Hi.

01:07:13.988 --> 01:07:16.157
Yes, it's Snug '96.

01:07:16.240 --> 01:07:18.242
-What happened, honey?
-I don't know. It's my groin.

01:07:18.325 --> 01:07:19.952
Must be something I did last night.

01:07:22.455 --> 01:07:24.331
-Oh boy.
-There she goes.

01:07:25.791 --> 01:07:29.128
He's the most connected man
here in Hollywood.

01:07:29.628 --> 01:07:34.800
He knows everybody from the top
to the very bottom of the top.

01:07:38.220 --> 01:07:40.139
We're as happy as we've ever been.

01:07:41.766 --> 01:07:43.726
This is our eldest son, Tom.

01:07:44.560 --> 01:07:47.104
Tom, are you ever gonna get a job?

01:07:47.188 --> 01:07:50.232
Uh-uh, Daddy.
I just love the Canadian woods.

01:07:51.275 --> 01:07:52.902
We love him, though.

01:07:53.569 --> 01:07:57.948
When we first met Marty,
he got up and did a Tony Bennett imitation

01:07:58.032 --> 01:08:00.743
of singing
"I Left My Heart in San Francisco."

01:08:00.826 --> 01:08:03.829
I had that moment of realizing

01:08:03.913 --> 01:08:09.460
I'm gonna hang around with this guy
at every opportunity I… I can muster.

01:08:09.543 --> 01:08:10.669
Tommy!

01:08:11.754 --> 01:08:13.172
I love when you mug.

01:08:13.255 --> 01:08:15.216
Our kids were the same age,

01:08:15.299 --> 01:08:20.971
so we would do
these big family barbecues and dinners.

01:08:21.055 --> 01:08:23.140
And we would just hang out together

01:08:23.224 --> 01:08:27.103
because, I mean, who doesn't want
to be around Marty anyway?

01:08:30.898 --> 01:08:34.151
-Anyone gonna like some red wine?
-I'd love some.

01:08:34.235 --> 01:08:36.320
We were in similar points in our lives.

01:08:36.403 --> 01:08:37.988
-Mm-hmm. Yeah, we were.
-Yeah.

01:08:38.072 --> 01:08:39.740
We have Miss Nancy Short.

01:08:39.824 --> 01:08:41.408
Happy Mom's Day, Kate.

01:08:41.492 --> 01:08:45.329
A mom that I truly admire.
And we have Oliver.

01:08:45.412 --> 01:08:46.747
Mr. Henry Short.

01:08:47.248 --> 01:08:50.709
Tom and I go way back with Rita and Kate.

01:08:51.794 --> 01:08:55.631
We all had kids of the same age.
That was a big deal.

01:08:55.714 --> 01:08:58.050
So a lot of times,
you just work it some way,

01:08:58.134 --> 01:09:01.762
"Let's throw these rugrats all together
so maybe we can have a conversation."

01:09:03.472 --> 01:09:05.766
I think all of us together probably had,

01:09:05.850 --> 01:09:08.644
I don't know, 17, 15…
It was a lot of kids.

01:09:09.228 --> 01:09:10.521
Pass that to me.

01:09:10.604 --> 01:09:15.317
I think the real tell about Marty's heart
is how much my kids love Marty.

01:09:15.818 --> 01:09:17.236
And from very, very young ages,

01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:19.697
how my kids just wanted to be with Marty,

01:09:19.780 --> 01:09:22.408
wanted to walk over during a dinner
and sit with Marty

01:09:22.491 --> 01:09:24.785
and talk to Marty and show off for Marty.

01:09:24.869 --> 01:09:26.537
Take that off you, Sawyer!

01:09:26.620 --> 01:09:29.415
-That's mine!
-Now wait a second. Lucy, Ethel?

01:09:29.498 --> 01:09:31.417
Lucy! Ethel!

01:09:31.500 --> 01:09:33.210
I will still be… Oh!

01:09:33.294 --> 01:09:35.963
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da
If you're ever…

01:09:36.046 --> 01:09:37.673
That's exactly what Ricky did.

01:09:38.507 --> 01:09:40.217
Who must they love, darling?

01:09:40.301 --> 01:09:42.720
It is my birthday, don't you see?

01:09:42.803 --> 01:09:45.931
Well, my request is "Love only me."

01:09:47.016 --> 01:09:49.518
Not your stupid parents.

01:09:49.602 --> 01:09:51.353
Tom and Rita.

01:09:51.854 --> 01:09:53.314
Boring!

01:09:55.566 --> 01:09:58.193
And Steven and Kate.
Been there, done that.

01:10:00.196 --> 01:10:03.574
He holds friendship right after family
as the most important thing.

01:10:04.366 --> 01:10:08.579
We're talking about a dynamic
that is not easy to pull off,

01:10:08.662 --> 01:10:14.001
where I'm best friends with the men,
and Steven's best friends with the women.

01:10:14.084 --> 01:10:16.253
-So it made it really…
-Mm-hmm.

01:10:16.337 --> 01:10:19.423
Didn't you make a movie about that, Larry?

01:10:19.924 --> 01:10:22.384
Marty! Marty! Come on,
you gotta do this dance.

01:10:28.682 --> 01:10:29.808
Now just like…

01:10:29.892 --> 01:10:33.270
I could never keep up with the repartee

01:10:33.354 --> 01:10:37.650
between Tom and Marty and Walter.

01:10:37.733 --> 01:10:41.528
So what I resorted to was my video camera.

01:10:41.612 --> 01:10:44.865
These are the bloody footprints
from the last dive.

01:10:44.949 --> 01:10:46.408
Look at the evidence.

01:10:46.492 --> 01:10:48.702
Marty and Tom got this idea.

01:10:48.786 --> 01:10:53.082
"Hey, let's do that scene
from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid."

01:10:56.877 --> 01:10:59.880
This is very sad, I must say,
'cause we're gonna be killed, you know.

01:10:59.964 --> 01:11:02.216
Just get ready to shoot the bad guys.

01:11:02.299 --> 01:11:05.177
There's only one way out.
So we should jump, I must say.

01:11:05.260 --> 01:11:06.887
I know, we'll get shot.

01:11:06.971 --> 01:11:07.930
So let's go.

01:11:09.807 --> 01:11:11.517
-I'll jump first.
-Nope.

01:11:12.059 --> 01:11:13.477
-Then you jump first.
-No, I said!

01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:16.146
-What's the matter with you?
-I can't swim!

01:11:24.029 --> 01:11:27.074
What, are you crazy?
The fall will probably kill ya.

01:11:27.157 --> 01:11:31.996
Mama always said jumping off cliffs
is like a box of chocolates.

01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:35.040
-You never know what you might get.
-...might get. Yeah, you're right.

01:11:35.124 --> 01:11:37.668
-Come on, Forrest.
-I can't swim.

01:11:40.045 --> 01:11:41.588
Oh, that's very funny.

01:11:41.672 --> 01:11:45.050
For heaven's sakes,
the fall will kill us, I must say.

01:11:47.011 --> 01:11:48.971
Oh shit!

01:11:49.054 --> 01:11:51.765
-Oh shit!
-Oh shit!

01:12:00.524 --> 01:12:03.902
Now we go out and about with Jiminy Glick.

01:12:04.570 --> 01:12:08.907
We have a wonderful full-fledged icon
to interview.

01:12:08.991 --> 01:12:11.493
Steven Spielberg's with us. Hi, Steven.

01:12:11.577 --> 01:12:14.413
-Hello, Jiminy, nice to see you.
-Have you won an Oscar?

01:12:14.913 --> 01:12:16.498
-Yes, sir.
-How come?

01:12:17.082 --> 01:12:21.003
And then… And you've made so many films.
When are you gonna do the big one?

01:12:22.004 --> 01:12:24.965
Wow. How… What do you mean, big one?

01:12:25.049 --> 01:12:27.134
Something that clicks with the public.

01:12:27.217 --> 01:12:29.595
Yeah. I'd love to see it
'cause I think you're good.

01:12:31.013 --> 01:12:33.974
Jiminy Glick, a legend in his own mind.

01:12:34.058 --> 01:12:36.894
An interviewer far beyond interviewers.

01:12:36.977 --> 01:12:40.272
He asks questions nobody wants to answer.

01:12:40.773 --> 01:12:42.608
-Would you like a donut?
-I would love a donut.

01:12:44.276 --> 01:12:45.778
Oh!

01:12:45.861 --> 01:12:47.488
Stupid COVID!

01:12:47.571 --> 01:12:48.655
Here you go.

01:12:48.739 --> 01:12:53.786
You know, the premise is bad interviewer
who doesn't know much about the person.

01:12:53.869 --> 01:12:55.913
You're confusing me
with the actor Michael Keaton,

01:12:55.996 --> 01:12:58.123
who is an acquaintance of mine,
who is also a very good actor.

01:12:58.207 --> 01:13:01.919
In fact, your styles are totally different
because Keaton is very realistic.

01:13:02.503 --> 01:13:05.589
And you tend to do
that kind of, "Oh, say what?"

01:13:05.672 --> 01:13:08.425
Which is wonderful.
Hold on, please. Someone's…

01:13:08.926 --> 01:13:09.802
Hello?

01:13:10.594 --> 01:13:11.637
Oh, hi, Dixie.

01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:15.182
He can be that fearless
in saying negative things

01:13:15.265 --> 01:13:17.101
that are close to home,

01:13:17.184 --> 01:13:20.104
and the people he's interviewing
can be laughing.

01:13:20.187 --> 01:13:21.730
Just 'cause the eyes are so dull

01:13:21.814 --> 01:13:25.943
doesn't mean that there's not
a machinery of wheels clicking away.

01:13:26.026 --> 01:13:27.903
I was hoping for an A-lister,

01:13:27.986 --> 01:13:31.240
but I'm thrilled to have you, Bill… Hader.

01:13:31.323 --> 01:13:34.618
-It's not really a star's name, is it?
-No.

01:13:34.701 --> 01:13:37.704
-No, like Leo DiCaprio captures you.
-Yes. That's true.

01:13:37.788 --> 01:13:40.624
But Bill Hader sounds like a guy
who would do inside windows.

01:13:42.084 --> 01:13:45.921
You really see what Marty thinks
of a career in show business.

01:13:46.004 --> 01:13:48.382
-When does the film come out?
-July 11th.

01:13:48.465 --> 01:13:49.842
Oh, I'm gonna be away.

01:13:49.925 --> 01:13:52.136
You get a lot of bad reviews.

01:13:52.219 --> 01:13:55.889
How does that make you feel
and how do you handle it, Steve Martin?

01:13:55.973 --> 01:13:58.308
Well, first of all, you know,
a lot of people get bad reviews.

01:13:58.392 --> 01:14:00.227
Charlie Chaplin got bad reviews.

01:14:00.310 --> 01:14:01.437
Mm-mm.

01:14:02.020 --> 01:14:03.522
Buster Keaton got bad reviews.

01:14:03.605 --> 01:14:07.401
No, not really.
Not… not… not on the level you get them.

01:14:07.901 --> 01:14:11.113
I was always fascinated
by morons with power.

01:14:11.196 --> 01:14:14.741
You flip around daytime television,
and there's a person with a show.

01:14:14.825 --> 01:14:17.202
They've got assistants,
and that assistant's sweating

01:14:17.286 --> 01:14:19.580
because their tuna fish sandwich was late.

01:14:19.663 --> 01:14:22.040
And, "What kind of tuna fish is this?"

01:14:22.124 --> 01:14:23.417
Wonderful. Call you back.

01:14:23.500 --> 01:14:26.587
-Hi. Leah, and how are you doing?
-How are you today, Mr. Glick?

01:14:26.670 --> 01:14:29.923
Yellow highlighters I don't like
because they're not fun.

01:14:30.007 --> 01:14:32.593
I wanted to create a character
who would go to junkets.

01:14:33.510 --> 01:14:35.137
I'd made a film called Pure Luck

01:14:35.220 --> 01:14:38.891
where I was stung by a bee
and I had a reaction.

01:14:39.516 --> 01:14:43.020
And I remember Nancy was on the set,
saying, "I cannot see you in there."

01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:44.980
And I loved that.

01:14:45.063 --> 01:14:46.773
And the Emmys were coming up.

01:14:47.274 --> 01:14:48.650
Hi, this is Jiminy Glick

01:14:48.734 --> 01:14:50.736
of Jiminy Glick's Lalawood.

01:14:50.819 --> 01:14:53.572
And I am so excited
to be at the Emmy Awards.

01:14:53.655 --> 01:14:57.576
I wanted to go out and honestly…
And not be seen as myself.

01:14:57.659 --> 01:15:00.245
I'm talking with John Legworth… Lig… Lock…

01:15:00.329 --> 01:15:02.039
-John. Just John.
-Lockwo…

01:15:02.122 --> 01:15:03.540
You used to do circus work.

01:15:03.624 --> 01:15:05.125
I was a freak for a while.

01:15:05.209 --> 01:15:07.669
And often people wear stilts doing that,
but you didn't need them.

01:15:07.753 --> 01:15:10.589
I didn't need them.
I'm a big, gangly freak. And what…

01:15:11.173 --> 01:15:13.592
That tastes actually nice. What's on that?

01:15:13.675 --> 01:15:16.512
It's great to see you again.
You look like you've lost a lot of weight.

01:15:16.595 --> 01:15:19.348
Well, I've had liposuction
from every possible opening.

01:15:19.431 --> 01:15:23.852
I feel like he could improvise
Jiminy Glick to eternity.

01:15:23.936 --> 01:15:24.895
Couldn't he?

01:15:24.978 --> 01:15:26.438
-You…
-Yes?

01:15:26.522 --> 01:15:27.648
…are a special spirit.

01:15:27.731 --> 01:15:29.816
Thank you very much.

01:15:29.900 --> 01:15:31.985
Oh, I hadn't heard the laugh yet.

01:15:32.486 --> 01:15:35.572
He's got his highs,
and then he's got his lows.

01:15:36.073 --> 01:15:41.078
And he never fails
to come up with the right word

01:15:41.161 --> 01:15:44.164
when he hits his lows.

01:15:44.248 --> 01:15:46.583
You know? Kinko-Belobo.

01:15:46.667 --> 01:15:48.418
Oh my God, I don't think that's true.

01:15:48.502 --> 01:15:50.545
It's real Dada entertainment.

01:15:50.629 --> 01:15:54.383
It's real, like, this is all bullshit,

01:15:54.466 --> 01:15:58.554
and our career is
sitting across from a buffoon like this.

01:15:58.637 --> 01:16:00.472
-Thanks.
-Interview over, man. Done deal.

01:16:00.556 --> 01:16:02.182
Oh my God.

01:16:02.266 --> 01:16:03.892
Someone phone a replacement.

01:16:03.976 --> 01:16:06.562
It's a really punk rock character.

01:16:07.145 --> 01:16:09.565
What's your big beef with the Nazis?

01:16:10.566 --> 01:16:12.109
What's my big beef?

01:16:12.192 --> 01:16:15.112
-It seems you're always knocking--
-What's my big beef?

01:16:15.195 --> 01:16:17.030
You're always knocking the Nazis.
"Oh, let's…"

01:16:17.114 --> 01:16:21.159
It's… it's time for Mel Brooks
to knock the Nazis, it seems.

01:16:21.660 --> 01:16:23.495
You don't want the headlines, do you?

01:16:23.579 --> 01:16:26.498
I don't want it, and yet,
when I'm home and I see…

01:16:26.581 --> 01:16:27.416
When I'm--

01:16:28.709 --> 01:16:30.961
But there's such subtlety

01:16:32.004 --> 01:16:33.338
with… with Jiminy too.

01:16:33.422 --> 01:16:36.341
That soft side, that empathetic side,

01:16:36.425 --> 01:16:38.802
and… and just the… the levels.

01:16:38.885 --> 01:16:41.888
Every level of comedy
is there with Jiminy.

01:16:41.972 --> 01:16:44.975
You have to keep constantly
making it interesting for yourself.

01:16:45.058 --> 01:16:47.603
What you have to do is just say,
"This will be fun to me."

01:16:47.686 --> 01:16:50.480
"I look forward to doing this.
This will make me want to work."

01:16:50.564 --> 01:16:53.442
"I wanna show my friends this show."
That's what you want to do.

01:16:53.942 --> 01:16:56.445
This has been absolutely so much fun.

01:16:56.528 --> 01:17:01.325
This is the craziest fucking interview
I've ever done in my life.

01:17:08.999 --> 01:17:12.461
It's Christmas 2003.

01:17:13.670 --> 01:17:17.090
Fourteen-year-old Henry Short
has done the tree basically this year.

01:17:17.841 --> 01:17:18.842
Yeah, looks good.

01:17:19.343 --> 01:17:20.969
-Like that?
-Uh-huh.

01:17:22.387 --> 01:17:23.722
We always have a Christmas party
at our house,

01:17:23.805 --> 01:17:25.265
and people get up and perform.

01:17:25.349 --> 01:17:30.896
It's the most wonderful time
Of the year

01:17:32.272 --> 01:17:35.776
It's the hap… happiest season of all

01:17:35.859 --> 01:17:37.152
Is anybody else here?

01:17:37.652 --> 01:17:40.656
Marty, who's doing his thing
to open the show,

01:17:40.739 --> 01:17:45.202
and then commenting on what you did
when you left,

01:17:45.285 --> 01:17:47.037
as if you didn't feel bad enough.

01:17:47.120 --> 01:17:48.789
Who remembers Home Alone?

01:17:50.832 --> 01:17:52.793
And I'm sure there's been others.

01:18:01.760 --> 01:18:05.097
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Danny Aykroyd.

01:18:05.597 --> 01:18:07.474
And I'm Glenn Frey, the happy Eagle.

01:18:08.975 --> 01:18:11.353
The bells will be ringin'…

01:18:12.729 --> 01:18:15.774
The sad, sad news

01:18:16.775 --> 01:18:18.151
Sally Field, ladies and gentlemen.

01:18:18.819 --> 01:18:20.237
-Oh!
-There we go.

01:18:22.155 --> 01:18:23.240
There we go.

01:18:23.323 --> 01:18:24.950
Sally Field, ladies and gentlemen.

01:18:25.033 --> 01:18:28.829
Well, we have the ultimate jerk here.
Steve Martin is with us.

01:18:29.329 --> 01:18:31.248
It was a little bit of work.

01:18:31.331 --> 01:18:35.460
One time, I spent six months learning
how to play "Auld Lang Syne" on the banjo.

01:18:35.544 --> 01:18:38.171
Well, now, I gotta think
of a fucking song to sing.

01:18:38.255 --> 01:18:41.049
I just can't go
and have some macaroni and cheese

01:18:41.133 --> 01:18:42.926
like normal people.

01:18:43.009 --> 01:18:45.011
I gotta hire a vocal coach.

01:18:47.764 --> 01:18:49.474
May your days…

01:18:49.558 --> 01:18:53.562
The Christmas party had become so
popular, it got too big for their house.

01:18:53.645 --> 01:18:57.065
I said, "Nancy,
how are you gonna cull the list?"

01:18:57.149 --> 01:19:01.069
She goes, "Honey, if they don't know
my kids' names, they ain't coming."

01:19:01.153 --> 01:19:05.991
Christmases be white

01:19:07.492 --> 01:19:08.952
The storm is coming.

01:19:20.672 --> 01:19:22.340
It's… it's coming.

01:19:26.970 --> 01:19:28.096
Did you hear that?

01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:32.184
Should I pick the kids up?

01:19:32.976 --> 01:19:35.270
Yeah, I don't want Ollie driving now.

01:19:35.771 --> 01:19:36.813
Yeah, okay.

01:19:37.981 --> 01:19:39.483
So you better phone.

01:19:40.275 --> 01:19:42.569
Well, maybe we should just have dinner
at the club then.

01:19:42.652 --> 01:19:45.530
-Let's do that.
-All right. Can you phone and see?

01:19:45.614 --> 01:19:46.823
Oh my God!

01:19:47.324 --> 01:19:50.952
Oh my dear Lord in heaven. I…

01:19:51.036 --> 01:19:52.954
This isn't really what I look like.

01:19:53.038 --> 01:19:54.790
Nancy.

01:19:54.873 --> 01:19:56.750
Get the phone!

01:19:57.667 --> 01:20:00.879
I… I heard a shrink talk once
that said certain couples

01:20:01.546 --> 01:20:03.757
relate directly to each other.

01:20:04.257 --> 01:20:07.093
And certain couples relate through things.

01:20:08.303 --> 01:20:10.639
And they just relate in a different way.

01:20:11.348 --> 01:20:13.141
And they related like this.

01:20:14.851 --> 01:20:18.188
She thought everything
he said was hilarious.

01:20:18.730 --> 01:20:21.817
And it was a sincere laughter.

01:20:23.902 --> 01:20:25.737
It wasn't like a wife doing it.

01:20:25.821 --> 01:20:28.240
It was like a person laughing.

01:20:28.323 --> 01:20:30.116
You know, "Tell that story again."

01:20:32.035 --> 01:20:34.204
She was his biggest fan.

01:20:34.287 --> 01:20:38.625
Nothing is more touching when you
look back at the videos that he has.

01:20:39.292 --> 01:20:43.088
And the camera looks at her watching him,

01:20:43.588 --> 01:20:46.341
and her laughing uncontrollably.

01:20:47.092 --> 01:20:48.385
Not to fill his ego.

01:20:48.468 --> 01:20:51.388
Just because she felt he was genuinely

01:20:51.888 --> 01:20:53.640
the best in her book.

01:20:56.393 --> 01:20:58.520
It's mother doing the daddy dance.

01:21:01.773 --> 01:21:03.608
I can't do it like you.
What's the other one?

01:21:03.692 --> 01:21:04.693
What's the other one? Oh.

01:21:06.236 --> 01:21:09.489
In 2007, she thought she had a hernia.

01:21:09.573 --> 01:21:10.907
She went to a doctor, and he said,

01:21:10.991 --> 01:21:14.286
"I think it's a hernia,
but we should have it s… scanned."

01:21:14.369 --> 01:21:17.998
And it was scanned,
and it turned out to be an ovarian cyst.

01:21:18.081 --> 01:21:21.585
Of course, then someone picked up a phone
and phoned the National Enquirer.

01:21:21.668 --> 01:21:23.503
So it was all in the National Enquirer.

01:21:23.587 --> 01:21:26.256
Bernie Brillstein phoned me up,
my manager, and said,

01:21:26.339 --> 01:21:28.592
"Hey, kid, two things. Um…"

01:21:29.092 --> 01:21:31.511
"Bad news is
it's on page three of the Enquirer."

01:21:31.595 --> 01:21:33.138
"Good news. It's a very nice picture."

01:21:34.973 --> 01:21:37.976
A couple of days later, we had a scan.
It was proved to be cancer.

01:21:43.231 --> 01:21:45.191
He was doing some work during that time.

01:21:45.275 --> 01:21:48.153
And the family and Nancy
and everybody says,

01:21:48.236 --> 01:21:51.364
"You're not gonna stop doing your work
because this thing is going to…

01:21:51.448 --> 01:21:54.993
this malady is going to, uh,
you know, do its damage."

01:21:55.744 --> 01:21:58.663
At one point, I did have to go
and shoot Damages.

01:21:58.747 --> 01:22:01.041
My clients aren't guilty of anything.

01:22:01.124 --> 01:22:04.794
No one knew what was going on.
And Glenn would say, "Marty's here!"

01:22:04.878 --> 01:22:08.381
I'd go, "Yeah, just give me a second
in the dressing room."

01:22:12.844 --> 01:22:14.554
They came over for dinner at our cottage.

01:22:15.138 --> 01:22:17.599
And Nancy said, "Come into the bedroom.
I wanna talk to you."

01:22:17.682 --> 01:22:20.727
So of course, I went…
…into my bedroom with Nancy

01:22:20.810 --> 01:22:21.978
'cause she told me to.

01:22:22.062 --> 01:22:26.191
And she said, "Well, I have cancer."
And told me what was going on.

01:22:26.733 --> 01:22:29.819
"Okay." "And it's gonna be fine."
And just told me the facts.

01:22:29.903 --> 01:22:32.447
"Okay, I just wanted you to know." "Okay."

01:22:32.530 --> 01:22:34.074
Then we go back to dinner.

01:22:35.283 --> 01:22:38.536
You're kind of hoping
everything works out.

01:22:38.620 --> 01:22:42.582
At the time,
we didn't know in the very beginning.

01:22:43.083 --> 01:22:44.542
At a certain point,

01:22:44.626 --> 01:22:47.170
we kind of knew
that it wasn't gonna work out.

01:22:50.632 --> 01:22:52.550
To Nancy's credit,

01:22:52.634 --> 01:22:56.429
just because she was the way she was,

01:22:56.513 --> 01:22:58.807
fearless, deter…

01:22:58.890 --> 01:23:01.059
You know her. Determined.

01:23:02.644 --> 01:23:03.520
Um…

01:23:04.062 --> 01:23:05.271
A fighter.

01:23:05.772 --> 01:23:08.650
The chick could do anything, okay?
She could do anything.

01:23:08.733 --> 01:23:10.193
Her attitude was,

01:23:10.276 --> 01:23:14.364
"Cancer, whatever.
This is how I'm gonna live my life."

01:23:15.740 --> 01:23:18.451
Through a lot of pain,
she was playing tennis.

01:23:18.535 --> 01:23:20.787
I was up at Snug Harbour when it was…

01:23:21.705 --> 01:23:25.166
It was the summer where she died
in September.

01:23:25.667 --> 01:23:27.460
-Hi, darling.
-Hey, baby.

01:23:27.544 --> 01:23:29.337
-We're having fun.
-Beautiful.

01:23:29.421 --> 01:23:31.631
We just tried to work off her vibe.

01:23:31.715 --> 01:23:34.134
She set the tone, and we followed.

01:23:34.926 --> 01:23:37.220
She tended to be positive in general.

01:23:37.721 --> 01:23:40.974
So when she got sick,
her approach was, "I can fight it."

01:23:41.057 --> 01:23:44.769
And if they'd give her…
She'd be on a new cocktail of chemo.

01:23:44.853 --> 01:23:46.896
She'd say to everyone, "I'm cured."

01:23:46.980 --> 01:23:49.566
She went to the Internet once,
read about it, and said,

01:23:49.649 --> 01:23:51.151
"I'm not gonna do that anymore."

01:23:51.234 --> 01:23:52.652
She didn't wanna know.

01:23:52.736 --> 01:23:56.948
She just wanted to just keep going
until she couldn't.

01:23:57.532 --> 01:24:00.910
And he was a perfect partner
because he let her.

01:24:00.994 --> 01:24:03.288
It was extraordinary to watch.

01:24:07.876 --> 01:24:09.044
Sing it, Nan.

01:24:09.127 --> 01:24:11.880
Ooh, unforgettable…

01:24:11.963 --> 01:24:14.299
Unforgettable

01:24:14.382 --> 01:24:17.135
In every way…

01:24:17.218 --> 01:24:20.680
In every way

01:24:21.181 --> 01:24:23.391
And forever more…

01:24:23.475 --> 01:24:26.144
And forever more

01:24:26.227 --> 01:24:28.104
That's how you'll stay…

01:24:28.188 --> 01:24:32.233
That's how you'll stay

01:24:32.317 --> 01:24:38.907
That's why, darling It's incredible

01:24:39.407 --> 01:24:44.037
That someone so unforgettable

01:24:44.120 --> 01:24:50.460
Thinks that I am unforgettable

01:24:50.543 --> 01:24:55.548
Too

01:25:05.225 --> 01:25:10.021
Steve Martin wrote a melody
for Nancy Short, who died a year ago.

01:25:10.105 --> 01:25:13.650
I, uh, dedicated it
to my friend Marty Short's…

01:25:16.277 --> 01:25:17.737
I'm sorry. It's okay.

01:25:17.821 --> 01:25:18.655
Sorry.

01:25:19.155 --> 01:25:20.448
Come on, I'll play it for you.

01:25:31.292 --> 01:25:37.298
Like any family, it's just a simple fact
that loss is something to negotiate.

01:25:38.216 --> 01:25:40.969
It's going to happen to all of us,
and we must celebrate

01:25:41.052 --> 01:25:43.888
and continue that voice
and never let it go.

01:25:45.849 --> 01:25:49.978
I couldn't imagine Marty without Nancy.

01:25:50.061 --> 01:25:51.229
Yeah.

01:25:51.312 --> 01:25:53.690
How's he gonna be able
to go on without her?

01:25:53.773 --> 01:25:55.775
How's he gonna be able
to be funny without her?

01:25:58.736 --> 01:26:01.990
He first threw himself into
his children's lives. Into his family.

01:26:02.073 --> 01:26:03.992
Then he threw himself into his work.

01:26:06.828 --> 01:26:08.663
I looked at Marty, and I thought,

01:26:08.746 --> 01:26:11.666
"He's going through it again.
Jesus Christ."

01:26:12.417 --> 01:26:13.585
"Give me a break."

01:26:14.836 --> 01:26:17.297
We'll have full-on conversations
about Nancy now.

01:26:17.380 --> 01:26:19.799
I mean, we… we don't skirt around her.

01:26:19.883 --> 01:26:22.927
Sometimes when he's on the phone
and he'll be talking about it,

01:26:23.011 --> 01:26:26.890
and I won't agree with him, and I'll say,
"Put Nancy on the phone," you know.

01:26:27.390 --> 01:26:30.059
"'Cause you know what?
She'd have a different opinion here."

01:26:30.560 --> 01:26:34.355
He handled it with
a sense of humor, looked for the laughs.

01:26:34.981 --> 01:26:37.692
I hope you're telling everyone
how important laughter is.

01:26:39.611 --> 01:26:43.406
I was trying to help him.
You try to make sure they're okay.

01:26:44.032 --> 01:26:45.158
Hi, video.

01:26:45.241 --> 01:26:47.577
Until they can stand
on their own two feet.

01:26:48.536 --> 01:26:49.829
I remember he was working a lot.

01:26:49.913 --> 01:26:51.956
Holiday time

01:26:52.457 --> 01:26:54.042
What are you doing?

01:26:54.542 --> 01:26:57.212
He did share that when he was on the road,

01:26:57.295 --> 01:27:00.006
that's when he was without Nancy normally.

01:27:00.506 --> 01:27:03.509
So the loss actually was
a little less tangible

01:27:03.593 --> 01:27:04.886
when he was out there working,

01:27:04.969 --> 01:27:07.222
as opposed to being home
and being home alone.

01:27:07.305 --> 01:27:09.974
I don't know what he would do
if he wasn't on the move.

01:27:10.058 --> 01:27:15.313
I think he would think it'd be
a disservice to Nancy if he went down.

01:27:15.396 --> 01:27:17.398
I was gonna have this meeting with him.

01:27:17.482 --> 01:27:20.276
And I wasn't really aware
that he had lost his wife

01:27:20.360 --> 01:27:22.779
within the past few years at that time.

01:27:24.280 --> 01:27:27.283
You're… you're looking
at someone's true half gone.

01:27:27.367 --> 01:27:31.371
That's how Lorne Michaels explained to me
what kind of a loss that was.

01:27:31.454 --> 01:27:34.999
I was trying to do
one of those stupid live audience sitcoms,

01:27:35.083 --> 01:27:36.834
but in a weird way.

01:27:36.918 --> 01:27:39.462
And border on corny,

01:27:39.545 --> 01:27:40.797
but not be.

01:27:41.881 --> 01:27:45.802
My decorator was going for feng shui,
but I just wanted to Wang Chung.

01:27:50.139 --> 01:27:53.017
She lives! She's alive!

01:27:53.101 --> 01:27:54.602
Sometimes I'd write for him.

01:27:54.686 --> 01:27:56.771
He'd say to me, "Well, this is stupid."

01:27:56.854 --> 01:28:00.483
I'd be like, "Isn't the smartest thing
to do something really stupid?"

01:28:00.566 --> 01:28:04.737
He'd go, "Well, why don't I just put on
a big red wig and run in circles?"

01:28:04.821 --> 01:28:07.615
And some part of me was like,
"Oh, would you do that?"

01:28:08.282 --> 01:28:10.994
Something about
what I was trying to do didn't translate.

01:28:11.077 --> 01:28:16.165
I think I ran into him in the hall
when reviews and numbers were not good.

01:28:16.249 --> 01:28:20.712
And he just grabbed me and said,
"John, this is what it is."

01:28:20.795 --> 01:28:23.673
He goes, "98% of it is failure."

01:28:24.257 --> 01:28:27.885
And he meant it sincerely.
Like, he goes, "This is what the job is."

01:28:28.761 --> 01:28:31.306
Nothing works, then something works.

01:28:31.889 --> 01:28:37.895
Marty is busier and in more demand now
than he ever has been.

01:28:39.856 --> 01:28:44.527
He's responsible for this thing that
has made streaming television history.

01:28:44.610 --> 01:28:48.406
He goes off and has these shows
that he puts on with Steve.

01:28:49.532 --> 01:28:53.411
That is not coming out of a desire
to stay on top,

01:28:53.911 --> 01:28:57.290
or to fill his coffers,
or to stay relevant.

01:28:57.373 --> 01:28:58.833
It's got none of that.

01:28:58.916 --> 01:29:00.084
Marty is doing it

01:29:00.168 --> 01:29:03.212
because the opportunity is there
to have a blast.

01:29:08.009 --> 01:29:09.886
Stop loving me!

01:29:10.803 --> 01:29:13.931
Thank you. I'm your guest host
for the week, Martin Short.

01:29:15.016 --> 01:29:16.893
Oh, hi there.

01:29:17.894 --> 01:29:20.313
I'm actor, comedian, philanthropist,

01:29:20.396 --> 01:29:23.566
and award-winning
adult film star Martin Short.

01:29:24.067 --> 01:29:27.820
People always ask me, "Marty,
how do you have so much energy?"

01:29:27.904 --> 01:29:31.532
Usually I tell those people,
"Get the f*** away from me! Thanks."

01:29:36.412 --> 01:29:38.081
I'm putting you on speaker.

01:29:38.831 --> 01:29:41.501
-Yeah?
-Hey, it's Steve Martin, everyone.

01:29:41.584 --> 01:29:42.752
Hi, Marty.

01:29:42.835 --> 01:29:43.795
Hi, Steve.

01:29:43.878 --> 01:29:47.173
I'm calling to say I don't like you

01:29:47.256 --> 01:29:49.717
or the people you hang around with.

01:29:53.429 --> 01:29:56.057
And you felt you had to phone
and tell me that?

01:29:56.140 --> 01:29:58.726
No, and I'm telling you,
I hope you're not recording this.

01:29:58.810 --> 01:30:00.686
No, no, we're not. Absolutely not.

01:30:00.770 --> 01:30:02.522
Okay, enough. We're bombing, by the way.

01:30:03.022 --> 01:30:04.524
-Yeah, we're bombing.
-I know.

01:30:05.733 --> 01:30:08.111
We all know,
whether you're in show business or not,

01:30:08.194 --> 01:30:10.363
that you can have a friend
you don't see for a year,

01:30:10.446 --> 01:30:13.157
and you get back together
and it's just like butter.

01:30:13.241 --> 01:30:14.325
Congratulations.

01:30:14.909 --> 01:30:16.536
Remember what we did in that movie?

01:30:17.912 --> 01:30:19.372
Gee, do you think it could work?

01:30:19.455 --> 01:30:20.790
It's got to work.

01:30:20.873 --> 01:30:23.751
We did this comedy festival
where we interview each other.

01:30:23.835 --> 01:30:24.669
I have a question.

01:30:24.752 --> 01:30:27.213
You do something I don't.
You do impressions and…

01:30:32.969 --> 01:30:36.764
We thought, "Why don't we do it again?"
And I knew Marty had a solo show.

01:30:37.765 --> 01:30:42.311
And I had a… a show with a band.
A comedy music show.

01:30:42.395 --> 01:30:45.106
And I thought, "Maybe we'll try it.
We'll blend it."

01:30:45.189 --> 01:30:48.651
Steve and I called this show,
If We'd Saved, We Wouldn't Be Here.

01:30:49.652 --> 01:30:52.697
You know what I love
about touring around with Marty Short?

01:30:52.780 --> 01:30:54.115
No paparazzi.

01:30:56.576 --> 01:31:00.997
Is there any trepidation at all
when you come out and start the show?

01:31:01.581 --> 01:31:02.665
-None.
-None.

01:31:03.749 --> 01:31:05.376
Isn't that a boring answer?

01:31:05.460 --> 01:31:09.297
I'm a little more, uh, nervous
than Marty is. Marty is extremely relaxed.

01:31:09.380 --> 01:31:12.925
-And the reason he is more nervous--
-I care.

01:31:13.009 --> 01:31:14.760
-I'm relaxed… Same joke.
-Yeah.

01:31:14.844 --> 01:31:18.306
Which has kept me out of the big money
because Steve actually cares.

01:31:18.389 --> 01:31:20.892
When I think of Steve, and it's not often,

01:31:20.975 --> 01:31:22.602
but when I do,

01:31:22.685 --> 01:31:25.730
the one thing that strikes me more
than anything else about you

01:31:25.813 --> 01:31:29.483
is how unbelievably pale
you are in person.

01:31:30.860 --> 01:31:32.570
Like I'm being haunted, you know?

01:31:32.653 --> 01:31:36.032
You look like Anderson Cooper
froze to death on New Year's Eve.

01:31:38.034 --> 01:31:41.162
You know that sort of
insult premise that we have?

01:31:41.245 --> 01:31:43.789
He was the first one to do that.

01:31:44.415 --> 01:31:48.503
And I thought, "Oh, that's kind of fun."

01:31:49.587 --> 01:31:52.965
And so I'd start to learn to do it back,
and he'd do it.

01:31:53.049 --> 01:31:57.678
And… and that became a way to converse.

01:31:57.762 --> 01:32:00.556
And then I noticed, when we started doing
Only Murders in the Building,

01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:03.809
and we're working with Selena,
who's a person we didn't know…

01:32:04.310 --> 01:32:07.271
Marty and I have
this little rapport thing going on

01:32:07.355 --> 01:32:10.858
to sort of kill time between setups.

01:32:11.359 --> 01:32:15.238
And a couple of years go by, and then I
notice Selena starts doing it.

01:32:17.156 --> 01:32:19.825
-Oh, how did you get here?
-It was open.

01:32:19.909 --> 01:32:21.494
I don't lock my door. Never have.

01:32:21.577 --> 01:32:23.120
-That's insane.
-It's neighborly.

01:32:23.204 --> 01:32:25.289
A murderer probably lives in the building.

01:32:25.373 --> 01:32:29.252
But I guess old white guys are only afraid
of colon cancer and societal change.

01:32:29.835 --> 01:32:30.670
Sad.

01:32:31.170 --> 01:32:34.090
Marty says, "I can't believe
that we get to do this."

01:32:34.173 --> 01:32:36.550
"I get to go hang out with funny people

01:32:36.634 --> 01:32:39.595
and laugh all through all rehearsals."

01:32:40.096 --> 01:32:45.101
Steve feels that this is a moment.

01:32:45.184 --> 01:32:46.602
So much for the moment.

01:32:48.229 --> 01:32:49.981
Come around to yourself now, Marty.

01:32:51.232 --> 01:32:53.359
-I was covering the camera.
-Camera was covered.

01:32:53.442 --> 01:32:56.320
Marty and I like honing in on a… a joke

01:32:56.404 --> 01:32:58.155
to get it more and more precise.

01:32:58.239 --> 01:33:01.284
So it's almost exact.

01:33:01.367 --> 01:33:04.453
And then within that exactness,
there are variations.

01:33:04.537 --> 01:33:05.371
Huh?

01:33:05.871 --> 01:33:07.707
Oh my God, Mayberry.

01:33:09.333 --> 01:33:11.294
-Well, that's not bad.
-Yeah, yeah.

01:33:11.794 --> 01:33:15.339
-You know, to say something--
-R.F.D.

01:33:17.800 --> 01:33:21.345
Well, what about, "Oh My God, Opie?" Or…

01:33:22.305 --> 01:33:23.598
Richie Cunningham?

01:33:24.390 --> 01:33:25.975
That was his character in Happy Days.

01:33:26.058 --> 01:33:29.020
But I think it… it steps
on your Ollie and Ron-Ron.

01:33:29.103 --> 01:33:31.272
I'll just go, "Huh?"

01:33:32.189 --> 01:33:33.858
The A-lister. You did it.

01:33:33.941 --> 01:33:35.192
-Yeah.
-Okay.

01:33:35.693 --> 01:33:37.903
-From the top.
-Really?

01:33:38.487 --> 01:33:40.239
I'm just thinking of this poor man.

01:33:40.323 --> 01:33:41.198
I know.

01:33:44.410 --> 01:33:47.038
You know,
we're gonna be friends to the end.

01:33:47.538 --> 01:33:50.166
Oh, God. I'm fine. You don't need to say
anything nice about me.

01:33:50.249 --> 01:33:52.668
Especially not while making eye contact.

01:33:52.752 --> 01:33:55.004
What if we went behind our menus?

01:33:55.504 --> 01:33:58.174
That… that c… That could work, yeah.

01:33:58.841 --> 01:34:00.509
If it would make you feel better,

01:34:00.593 --> 01:34:04.013
you can be my Life Alert contact
in case I fall.

01:34:04.096 --> 01:34:06.265
And we can get colonoscopies together.

01:34:07.725 --> 01:34:09.477
I can't ever imagine stopping.

01:34:10.394 --> 01:34:13.439
And I'd like to think
I was the best version of myself

01:34:13.522 --> 01:34:15.399
on the last day of my life.

01:34:15.483 --> 01:34:16.692
Marty really showed me

01:34:16.776 --> 01:34:19.612
that, um, it's very important
how you carry yourself

01:34:19.695 --> 01:34:21.822
through all of these experiences.

01:34:21.906 --> 01:34:23.741
Marty is good at life.

01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:39.298
In this business, in the world of comedy,
there's nobody faster.

01:34:39.799 --> 01:34:42.051
There's nobody smarter.
There's nobody funnier.

01:34:42.551 --> 01:34:47.556
He's just been born
with an ability to connect.

01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:52.395
You just write the word J-O-Y, joy,
and it's a steady state.

01:34:52.478 --> 01:34:56.691
You know, it's like… it's like a constant.
It's the… It's the speed of light.

01:34:56.774 --> 01:34:59.944
Marty operates at the speed of joy.

01:35:09.036 --> 01:35:10.413
Hi, baby.

01:35:11.080 --> 01:35:12.706
What a glorious day!

01:35:13.999 --> 01:35:16.877
Michael and Brian Short.

01:35:19.046 --> 01:35:20.756
Watch out for the puddles.

01:35:22.883 --> 01:35:25.136
Yes, the Levys are at Snug Harbour.

01:35:26.178 --> 01:35:27.763
Wow. You know what?

01:35:28.389 --> 01:35:29.849
I'm damn impressed.

01:35:31.475 --> 01:35:33.728
Someone's knocking at the door

01:35:34.228 --> 01:35:36.397
Somebody's ringing the bell…

01:35:37.273 --> 01:35:38.858
-Hi, Marty.
-Hi, Andrea.

01:35:38.941 --> 01:35:43.362
Open the door and let 'em in

01:35:43.946 --> 01:35:45.239
Ooh, yeah…

01:35:46.198 --> 01:35:48.117
-Hi, honey.
-Hi, honey.

01:35:48.200 --> 01:35:50.995
-You're taping me, but I'm taping you!
-Oh!

01:35:53.330 --> 01:35:55.750
So this is a press conference, kids.

01:35:55.833 --> 01:35:57.751
And they all love me.

01:35:59.170 --> 01:36:00.379
Do me a favor

01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:03.048
Open the door and…

01:36:03.132 --> 01:36:05.384
What are you doing?
Are you doing that face?

01:36:05.468 --> 01:36:08.721
Yeah, let 'em in…

01:36:08.804 --> 01:36:11.348
-Hello, Danny.
-Hello.

01:36:11.432 --> 01:36:13.267
Well, hi, captain.

01:36:13.934 --> 01:36:17.897
There's the fabulous
Catherine O'Hara. Go, baby.

01:36:20.566 --> 01:36:21.859
Wow!

01:36:24.570 --> 01:36:25.404
Hey, ese.

01:36:25.488 --> 01:36:27.114
Oh, Dave. Grow up.

01:36:27.907 --> 01:36:30.785
-Andrea, look at the ass on mother.
-So fat.

01:36:30.868 --> 01:36:32.578
How's your vacation, Stevie?

01:36:32.661 --> 01:36:34.121
Innkeeper, more wine.

01:36:34.205 --> 01:36:35.873
Brother John

01:36:36.916 --> 01:36:38.626
Martin Luther

01:36:39.293 --> 01:36:41.212
Phil and Don

01:36:42.338 --> 01:36:43.923
Brother Michael

01:36:44.924 --> 01:36:46.759
Auntie Gin…

01:36:48.135 --> 01:36:51.388
I don't think dogs like me, Marty. I don't
know why. I just don't think they like me.

01:36:51.472 --> 01:36:53.390
-Really?
-Yeah, I don't really think so.

01:36:53.474 --> 01:36:55.309
Well, maybe you… Let me see.

01:36:57.895 --> 01:36:59.188
Go, baby, go!

01:36:59.897 --> 01:37:01.857
Somebody's ringing the bell…

01:37:08.113 --> 01:37:09.573
Do me a favor…

01:37:10.074 --> 01:37:11.784
Happy Thanksgiving.

01:37:15.120 --> 01:37:16.413
Ooh, yeah, yeah…

01:37:16.997 --> 01:37:17.831
Stop it.

01:37:19.041 --> 01:37:21.460
Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo

01:37:24.213 --> 01:37:25.214
Camera on.

01:37:26.632 --> 01:37:30.386
That's all the news.
It is the news. Talk to you later.

01:37:31.136 --> 01:37:33.639
And, uh… Uh…

01:37:33.722 --> 01:37:35.641
So until then.

01:37:36.642 --> 01:37:39.144
-Are you happy now, Dad?
-Yes.

01:37:43.482 --> 01:37:47.695
Jiminy, you've interviewed
so many people. Like, everybody.

01:37:47.778 --> 01:37:50.197
But you've never interviewed Martin Short.

01:37:50.698 --> 01:37:52.825
No. I don't find him interesting.

01:37:52.908 --> 01:37:56.453
I find people who push too hard

01:37:56.537 --> 01:37:58.664
and are desperate for the approval

01:37:58.747 --> 01:38:02.084
without really presenting
any reason for the approval,

01:38:02.167 --> 01:38:03.836
I find it offensive.

01:38:03.919 --> 01:38:06.422
Did you hear they were making
a documentary about him?

01:38:06.922 --> 01:38:09.425
Yeah, well, they're making
a documentary on everyone.

01:38:09.508 --> 01:38:11.760
You know, they're making a… a documentary.

01:38:11.844 --> 01:38:16.181
Literally every human being that existed.

01:38:16.265 --> 01:38:19.643
This is what I think.
I think that Martin Short, he…

01:38:19.727 --> 01:38:24.523
There's, like, basically, three voices,
two hairstyles, and four dance moves.

01:38:24.607 --> 01:38:28.277
And you can't build an empire on that.
Although somehow, he has.

01:38:28.360 --> 01:38:30.946
But I don't buy it. I don't like it.
.
Although somehow, he has.