WEBVTT

00:22.939 --> 00:24.357
[man sighs]

00:24.441 --> 00:26.359
-[woman] Raise your right hand, please.
-Yes.

00:26.443 --> 00:28.486
[woman] Do you swear
your testimony will be the truth,

00:28.570 --> 00:30.613
whole truth and nothing but the truth
so help you God?

00:30.697 --> 00:32.115
-Yes, I do.
-[woman] Thank you.

00:33.783 --> 00:38.204
This is Jeffrey Epstein
in his first deposition in my case.

00:38.955 --> 00:41.833
I represented the original girl
that was brought to police

00:41.916 --> 00:44.627
and gave her story
that started this investigation.

00:47.839 --> 00:50.091
[lawyer] Is it true, sir, that, um...

00:51.634 --> 00:54.971
you have what's been described
as an egg-shaped penis?

00:57.265 --> 00:59.267
[lawyer] I had hired psychologists

00:59.350 --> 01:02.187
to do a psychological profile
on Jeffrey Epstein.

01:02.771 --> 01:04.397
What type of person he was

01:04.481 --> 01:06.983
and what would actually
get under his skin.

01:08.026 --> 01:12.363
What made him tick was
that he was a narcissist.

01:13.281 --> 01:17.077
He had no ability to feel empathy...

01:18.578 --> 01:20.872
and saw himself as 
the "Master of Puppets," so to speak.

01:22.665 --> 01:26.920
[lawyer] Sir, one witness described
your penis as oval-shaped

01:27.337 --> 01:30.131
and claimed, when erect,
it was thick towards the bottom

01:30.590 --> 01:31.633
but was thin and small

01:31.716 --> 01:33.802
-towards the head portion...
-[Epstein's lawyer] Sorry.

01:33.885 --> 01:36.012
[lawyer] ...and called it egg-shaped.
Those are not my words.

01:36.095 --> 01:37.305
I apologize, but as--

01:37.388 --> 01:38.973
[Epstein's lawyer] 
This meeting is now adjourned.

01:39.057 --> 01:41.309
[lawyer] As Mr. Kreighton has stated
that this is a--

01:41.392 --> 01:43.895
-[indistinct dialogue]
-[Epstein's lawyer] All right.

01:43.978 --> 01:45.730
[lawyer] I'm willing to continue.

01:45.814 --> 01:47.857
[indistinct dialogue]

01:47.941 --> 01:52.320
[lawyer] He tries at all times
to be the master of his domain...

01:53.655 --> 01:55.323
and in control of his world.

01:58.660 --> 02:01.287
As soon as he feels he's out of control...

02:03.540 --> 02:04.749
it's unsettling to him.

02:55.174 --> 02:58.219
[suspenseful music]

03:04.058 --> 03:07.020
[Michael Reiter] When we first turned
the case over to the FBI,

03:07.729 --> 03:10.148
they identified additional victims,

03:10.231 --> 03:12.859
and early on,
we in the Palm Beach Police Department

03:12.942 --> 03:14.360
helped them doing that.

03:16.863 --> 03:20.241
But after nearly two years...

03:20.909 --> 03:25.330
there was very little information flowing
from the federal side back to us.

03:26.456 --> 03:29.000
In fact,
they reminded us on several occasions

03:29.083 --> 03:31.377
that this was not
a cooperative investigation.

03:31.461 --> 03:32.962
It was their investigation.

03:39.385 --> 03:41.804
[lawyer] All of a sudden,
I had gotten a tip

03:41.888 --> 03:44.557
that Jeffrey Epstein was gonna be there
at the courthouse,

03:44.641 --> 03:45.683
but we didn't know why.

03:47.185 --> 03:48.394
As I'm going through security,

03:48.478 --> 03:52.190
he was actually going through security
with his lawyers at the same time.

03:52.273 --> 03:55.193
And they were kind of rushing him
through security to get upstairs.

03:56.486 --> 03:57.528
The courtroom was packed,

03:58.238 --> 04:00.782
and obviously, at that point,
I started realizing

04:00.865 --> 04:02.408
that something was happening here

04:02.492 --> 04:04.410
that was bigger
than just a routine hearing.

04:05.995 --> 04:07.664
[Musgrave]
It was a very hush-hush hearing.

04:07.747 --> 04:11.167
It was scheduled at the last minute
despite all the time that had elapsed.

04:12.377 --> 04:15.046
[Spencer Kuvin] There was a point
where Mr. Epstein's lawyers

04:15.129 --> 04:18.216
then took a sidebar and went up
and talked to the judge about something

04:18.299 --> 04:20.051
that the rest of the courtroom
couldn't hear.

04:20.843 --> 04:23.846
He was ushered over to the bailiff
where he was fingerprinted

04:24.097 --> 04:27.433
and a DNA swab was done,
and he was then taken out of the room.

04:28.226 --> 04:32.981
Somehow, his lawyers had worked out a deal
with the US Attorney's office.

04:33.398 --> 04:34.857
I mean, the whole thing was shocking.

04:36.317 --> 04:38.569
[Reiter] No one told us
in the Palm Beach Police Department

04:38.653 --> 04:39.988
that any of this was happening.

04:40.071 --> 04:45.076
Our lobby was full of the news media
because they knew about it before we did.

04:45.493 --> 04:48.371
Two years now after his arrest
for soliciting prostitutes,

04:48.454 --> 04:51.582
Palm Beach billionaire Jeffrey Epstein
pleaded guilty today.

04:51.666 --> 04:54.627
[female reporter] The guilty plea
and deal end a year's long process

04:54.711 --> 04:57.463
that could have sent Epstein to jail
for 15 years.

04:57.547 --> 05:01.384
He agreed to serve a total of 18 months
in the Palm Beach Detention Facility.

05:02.927 --> 05:04.220
[Brad Edwards] It was outrageous.

05:04.512 --> 05:06.264
That's when we learned for the first time

05:06.347 --> 05:10.601
there's not a deal about to happen.
A deal actually already happened.

05:10.685 --> 05:15.440
It's already done. The case is over,
and my clients are going,

05:15.523 --> 05:18.526
"How is the case over
when it hasn't started?

05:18.609 --> 05:20.403
This doesn't make any sense to me."

05:20.820 --> 05:22.238
I told them, "None of...

05:22.322 --> 05:25.366
What doesn't make sense to you right now
also doesn't make sense to me."

05:26.701 --> 05:31.330
Alex Acosta, the acting US Attorney,
should at least have to explain.

05:31.414 --> 05:33.583
Why did you do what you did?

05:33.666 --> 05:37.253
And give us the real story,
whatever it is. Just tell us why.

05:37.337 --> 05:39.881
Give me some explanation
for why this fucking happened.

05:54.854 --> 05:57.106
[male reporter] News Channel 5's
Dori Robau is live today

05:57.190 --> 05:59.025
at the Palm Beach Police Department.

05:59.400 --> 06:00.860
When the police chief here heard

06:00.943 --> 06:03.446
that Epstein would be charged
with solicitation of prostitution,

06:03.529 --> 06:06.574
he thought that the charges ought to be
much more serious,

06:06.657 --> 06:09.535
and Palm Beach police chief
Michael Reiter believed a strong case

06:09.619 --> 06:12.121
had been made
that Epstein had sex with children.

06:13.414 --> 06:16.876
It's the only case I was involved in, 
in my entire career, 

06:17.293 --> 06:21.547
that I felt as though
I really could not protect the victims.

06:28.137 --> 06:31.474
[man] I've been working together
with Brad Edwards

06:31.557 --> 06:35.395
on Epstein civil cases for over a decade.

06:35.895 --> 06:41.317
Jeffrey Epstein was given immunity
from any other state charges,

06:41.400 --> 06:44.195
and immunity from all federal charges,

06:44.278 --> 06:50.868
both for himself and for any of his named
and unnamed co-conspirators.

06:51.536 --> 06:54.163
It is inexplicable to me

06:54.622 --> 07:01.254
that any prosecutor could ever
have entered into this kind of plea deal.

07:02.213 --> 07:03.923
In 45 years of practice,

07:04.006 --> 07:07.885
I have never heard of anyone
ever entering into a plea agreement

07:08.177 --> 07:11.222
that not only granted immunity

07:11.639 --> 07:14.433
to the target of an investigation,

07:15.143 --> 07:15.977
but...

07:16.602 --> 07:20.523
handed out "get-out-of-jail-free" cards

07:21.107 --> 07:24.485
to everyone
of that person's co-conspirators,

07:25.153 --> 07:27.488
named and unnamed.

07:29.949 --> 07:34.829
[Edwards] All unknown co-conspirators
somehow also got immunity.

07:40.042 --> 07:42.545
There was no way
that anybody could look at this

07:42.628 --> 07:44.380
and think this was okay.

07:49.427 --> 07:50.970
[Alan Dershowitz]
The outcome of this case,

07:51.053 --> 07:52.805
whether people agree or disagree with it,

07:52.889 --> 07:55.933
doesn't require a conspiracy

07:56.017 --> 07:59.395
between government officials
and wealthy people.

07:59.479 --> 08:04.650
Everything that we negotiated for
had to be approved by Acosta,

08:05.234 --> 08:06.986
by the Assistant Attorney General

08:07.069 --> 08:09.572
in charge of the Criminal Division
in Washington,

08:09.655 --> 08:12.533
by the Deputy Attorney General
of the United States,

08:12.617 --> 08:14.911
ultimately by the Attorney General
of the United States.

08:14.994 --> 08:16.496
This went through various levels.

08:20.416 --> 08:22.293
It was a very tough negotiation.

08:22.376 --> 08:26.088
Acosta mostly sat at the end of the table
and asked hard questions.

08:26.172 --> 08:29.383
The issue was whether or not
the federal government could make a case

08:29.467 --> 08:33.095
based on the evidence they had
of the commission of a federal crime,

08:33.387 --> 08:36.891
and my job was to try to persuade them
they could not make that case.

08:37.600 --> 08:41.312
[Kuvin] Jeffrey Epstein and his team
was just this huge train

08:41.395 --> 08:43.564
of money, power, and influence

08:43.648 --> 08:46.651
that was just barreling down
on the State's Attorney's office,

08:46.734 --> 08:48.027
the US Attorney's office,

08:48.110 --> 08:50.947
just trying to get their way
and eventually getting their way.

08:52.657 --> 08:55.743
[Dershowitz] In the end,
they decided that they'd be better off

08:55.826 --> 08:59.288
getting a bird in the hand
versus two in the bush,

08:59.539 --> 09:05.378
and they agreed to have him plead guilty
to State charges, get a sentence,

09:05.461 --> 09:09.632
and then make massive compensation
to the alleged victims.

09:10.049 --> 09:12.218
I can tell you one interesting thing:
at the end,

09:12.301 --> 09:14.637
Jeffrey Epstein didn't think
we made a very good deal.

09:14.720 --> 09:18.724
He was pretty upset with us.
He thought he could have done better.

09:23.104 --> 09:25.606
Hi, uh... Jeffrey. It's George Rush.

09:25.690 --> 09:27.400
-[Epstein] George, how are you?
-[Rush] Good.

09:34.532 --> 09:37.076
[Rush] Do you want to say anything
just about the way

09:37.159 --> 09:43.040
your agreement has been characterized
as a secret, back-room sweetheart deal

09:43.124 --> 09:46.961
that somehow, through
the political connections of your lawyers,

09:47.044 --> 09:48.379
they obtained it.

09:48.713 --> 09:51.090
[Epstein] George, it's total bullshit.

09:52.049 --> 09:55.761
On closer examination,
you'll find my penalty was harsher,

09:55.845 --> 09:59.724
not less, harsher than anyone else
who's ever been charged

09:59.807 --> 10:01.851
-with solicitation of prostitution.
-[Rush] Mm-hmm.

10:01.934 --> 10:05.605
[Epstein] No girl ever came to my house.
First of all, I never left my house.

10:06.147 --> 10:09.358
So any girl who came to my house
was coming to my house to get money,

10:09.442 --> 10:10.276
to earn money.

10:11.110 --> 10:12.236
New York, by the way,

10:12.320 --> 10:14.447
you should understand,
for the same charge,

10:15.239 --> 10:17.783
-it... it's a $100 fine.
-[Rush] Mm-hmm.

10:17.867 --> 10:20.244
[Epstein] That's the charge in New York
for this behavior.

10:20.328 --> 10:21.954
-Now so.. It's two charges.
-[Rush] Yes.

10:22.038 --> 10:25.875
[Epstein] So we're clear, one charge was
solicitation of prostitution.

10:26.626 --> 10:28.294
That's nothing to do with minors.

10:29.211 --> 10:31.088
Simply solicitation of prostitution.

10:31.797 --> 10:35.760
The other charge that related to a minor
was procuring a minor...

10:36.927 --> 10:38.929
for engaging in prostitution.

10:39.597 --> 10:42.558
So that was the only two
and none of those... None...

10:42.641 --> 10:44.852
Neither one of the charges
nor any allegation

10:44.935 --> 10:48.981
of alleged sexual intercourse
at any time or any type.

10:49.065 --> 10:51.817
The state charge is simply
a procurement charge.

10:51.901 --> 10:55.237
It has nothing to do with sex.
It's a procurement for prostitution.

10:55.363 --> 10:56.280
[Rush] Well, what--

10:56.364 --> 10:58.574
[Epstein] If you look,
even up until six months ago,

10:58.658 --> 11:01.786
soliciting a 16-year-old prostitute was
a Class D misdemeanor,

11:02.161 --> 11:04.747
which was a fine of $100,
similar to jay-walking.

11:07.708 --> 11:10.336
They labeled us as underage prostitutes

11:10.419 --> 11:14.173
and it's embarrassing
to be identified as that.

11:14.256 --> 11:16.967
It's embarrassing. It's hurtful.
It's all kinds of things.

11:17.051 --> 11:18.803
These girls were not prostitutes.

11:18.886 --> 11:22.431
These girls were middle school
and high school kids... Children.

11:24.225 --> 11:29.772
The victims are left beaten
and destroyed and with no answers.

11:31.148 --> 11:34.360
[Michelle Licata] I was shocked
when I read that there was a plea deal.

11:35.403 --> 11:38.698
I didn't know you could make a deal
with the government

11:39.115 --> 11:42.118
and, you know, get a lesser sentence

11:42.201 --> 11:45.538
just based upon
how much power and money you have.

11:47.289 --> 11:48.874
[Courtney Wild] Justice wasn't served.

11:49.458 --> 11:51.001
Everybody looked the other way.

11:51.502 --> 11:54.296
And we find out
that what the government did was

11:54.380 --> 11:57.341
they kept the victims in the dark
so we didn't have our day in court.

11:57.800 --> 12:01.512
So, yeah,
I was sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein,

12:01.595 --> 12:04.140
but I was re-victimized
by the same government

12:04.223 --> 12:05.808
that's supposed to protect us.

12:06.183 --> 12:07.935
They muted our voices,

12:08.018 --> 12:10.896
so I was... Yeah, I was angry.
I'm still very angry.

12:12.148 --> 12:15.359
[Shawna Rivera] I think that this
is common for people like Jeff.

12:15.443 --> 12:17.862
I think that they often don't have to...

12:18.571 --> 12:21.991
face the consequences for their actions.

12:24.076 --> 12:27.079
I just wanted Jeff to be prosecuted.

12:27.163 --> 12:32.168
I wanted him to, like, not be able
to dig his way out of it with money.

12:33.711 --> 12:36.964
And then I found out
that this deal was made

12:37.465 --> 12:39.800
where the records were sealed and, like,

12:39.884 --> 12:45.765
my ability to do anything criminally
against him was... was gone.

12:46.223 --> 12:47.725
I was really upset about it.

12:47.808 --> 12:52.646
I was mad about it and I didn't...
know where to go from there.

12:55.733 --> 12:58.527
[Edwards] Almost immediately
after the non-prosecution agreement

12:58.611 --> 13:01.197
was secretly signed between
Jeffrey Epstein and the government,

13:01.655 --> 13:04.283
I tell all of my clients
I have to fight this.

13:04.366 --> 13:06.118
And the best thing that I can do is

13:06.202 --> 13:09.205
to enforce your rights
under the Crime Victims Rights Act,

13:09.872 --> 13:13.209
which ensures that victims, 
in criminal cases,

13:13.709 --> 13:16.879
um... have certain basic rights,
which include the right

13:16.962 --> 13:21.258
to confer with the prosecutor on the case
before there's a resolution of the case.

13:21.342 --> 13:23.677
We had to file a lawsuit.

13:24.678 --> 13:29.266
[Jack Scarola] If a court says
these victims were entitled to be heard,

13:29.850 --> 13:35.022
there may be a new hearing
in front of a federal judge

13:35.272 --> 13:41.403
where these victims have a right
to express their opposition to this deal,

13:42.071 --> 13:43.656
and a judge could decide,

13:43.948 --> 13:47.785
Jeffrey Epstein,
you did enter into a contract

13:47.868 --> 13:49.620
that was illegal from the outset.

13:49.954 --> 13:51.664
It is going to be voided.

13:51.747 --> 13:55.751
You have no immunity.
The federal government has the right...

13:56.877 --> 13:58.128
to prosecute you

13:58.212 --> 14:01.048
and the right to prosecute
your co-conspirators.

14:01.507 --> 14:03.217
One of the next things that we did was

14:03.300 --> 14:05.970
we requested
all of the email correspondence

14:06.053 --> 14:08.722
between the US Attorney's office
and Jeffrey Epstein

14:08.973 --> 14:10.599
to support our allegation

14:10.683 --> 14:13.269
that there was this concerted effort

14:13.894 --> 14:14.770
to...

14:15.563 --> 14:18.023
arrive at a secret deal

14:18.482 --> 14:20.442
without the victims knowing.

14:20.526 --> 14:23.737
There were so many unusual occurrences

14:23.821 --> 14:27.157
that went on in connection
with the negotiation

14:27.241 --> 14:29.743
of this non-prosecution agreement.

14:29.827 --> 14:34.039
There were hundreds
of email communications

14:34.123 --> 14:35.708
that got exchanged.

14:37.167 --> 14:39.003
[Mike Fisten] We found out Marie Villafaña

14:39.086 --> 14:42.172
was sending emails
back and forth to Jeffrey's lawyers

14:42.256 --> 14:44.592
asking them
if they wanted to make any changes.

14:46.552 --> 14:49.930
I mean, at one point in her emails,
she's telling Jeffrey's lawyers,

14:50.472 --> 14:55.477
"Don't email me at the office anymore.
Here's my Gmail. Email me at my Gmail."

14:57.688 --> 15:02.693
[Scarola] Mr. Acosta holds some meetings
outside the US Attorney's office,

15:02.776 --> 15:05.362
outside lawyers' offices...

15:06.280 --> 15:08.157
in a room at the Marriott hotel

15:08.240 --> 15:12.536
that were clearly intended to preserve
the secrecy of the negotiations

15:12.620 --> 15:13.746
that were going on.

15:14.330 --> 15:17.833
If any of the victims knew 
what was going on in this conspiracy

15:17.916 --> 15:19.668
between Jeffrey Epstein
and the government,

15:19.752 --> 15:21.337
they could have blown the whole thing up.

15:28.636 --> 15:31.430
Before the plea deal,
I think the focus was really on Florida.

15:31.513 --> 15:33.515
They didn't really realize it expanded

15:33.599 --> 15:38.646
with victims being trafficked,
and traveled, and lent out

15:38.729 --> 15:40.773
around the country and around the world.

15:43.275 --> 15:46.987
[Edwards] I'm reading from the complaint
filed by Virginia Roberts against you.

15:47.071 --> 15:50.991
Isn't it true, sir,
that a friend of yours sent you

15:51.075 --> 15:53.535
three 12-year-old...

15:54.870 --> 15:59.750
females for you to sexually abuse
on one of your birthdays?

15:59.833 --> 16:02.503
[Epstein's lawyer] Form argumentative,
harassing,

16:03.003 --> 16:04.755
-and irrelevant to this lawsuit.
-Excuse me,

16:04.838 --> 16:07.216
but could you...
You're saying that's part of the lawsuit?

16:07.299 --> 16:08.926
[Edwards] Yeah, I'll read it directly.

16:11.845 --> 16:13.597
[Giuffre]
It was Jeffrey's birthday one year.

16:13.681 --> 16:15.432
I don't remember what year it was,

16:15.933 --> 16:19.520
but I would say
it's a good year into our... you know...

16:20.396 --> 16:22.773
...our relationship,
our knowing each other,

16:23.524 --> 16:27.486
and he was laughing about the fact that

16:28.362 --> 16:31.198
his friend sent him
three 12-year-old girls

16:31.281 --> 16:33.367
that he had purchased from their parents.

16:35.953 --> 16:38.997
[Edwards] "On one
of defendant Epstein's birthdays,

16:39.289 --> 16:41.583
a friend of defendant Epstein

16:42.042 --> 16:48.549
sent him three 12-year-old girls
from France, who spoke no English,

16:48.632 --> 16:52.052
for the defendant
to sexually exploit and abuse.

16:52.136 --> 16:55.389
After doing so, they were sent
back to France the next day."

16:55.931 --> 16:58.058
-Isn't that true?
-[Epstein's lawyer] Once again,

16:58.142 --> 17:02.146
I'm going to move to strike.
Irrelevant, argumentative, harassing.

17:02.229 --> 17:03.439
[Edwards] All right.

17:04.648 --> 17:07.693
I would like to answer that question.
I really would.

17:07.776 --> 17:11.655
However, today my attorneys have told me
I have to assert my Fifth Amendment,

17:11.739 --> 17:14.116
Sixth Amendment,
and Fourteenth Amendment rights

17:14.199 --> 17:15.325
under the US Constitution.

17:15.659 --> 17:17.953
[Edwards] You're invoking
your Fifth Amendment rights

17:18.037 --> 17:19.413
to each of these questions

17:19.496 --> 17:22.791
because you know 
that your answers will incriminate you

17:22.875 --> 17:27.046
and you feel... uh, that it will result
in you being prosecuted for these crimes,

17:27.129 --> 17:28.005
isn't that right?

17:28.088 --> 17:30.674
[Epstein's lawyer] Objection.
Argumentative, harassing,

17:31.425 --> 17:33.427
and calls for a legal conclusion.

17:34.803 --> 17:35.637
[man] Answer.

17:35.721 --> 17:37.890
No, in fact
the Supreme Court recently said

17:37.973 --> 17:41.268
that the Fifth Amendment right is there
to protect the innocent,

17:41.852 --> 17:44.271
so that's why I'd like to answer that.

17:47.608 --> 17:51.737
[church bell ringing]

17:52.404 --> 17:55.532
[ringing continues]

17:58.368 --> 18:01.163
[woman] I love it here in Spain
because it's so far away...

18:02.956 --> 18:05.459
that Jeffrey Epstein
could never find me here.

18:08.629 --> 18:10.255
My name is Sarah Ransome.

18:10.547 --> 18:11.840
In 2006,

18:11.924 --> 18:14.343
I was sexually trafficked
by Jeffrey Epstein.

18:19.014 --> 18:23.227
I'd just turned 22
when I decided to go to New York.

18:23.977 --> 18:27.272
New York's where everyone's dreams
come true.

18:27.898 --> 18:30.025
I packed my bags, really excited,

18:30.484 --> 18:33.737
and I landed in New York
on the first of September.

18:35.447 --> 18:38.534
However, I didn't know anyone.
I didn't have that much money.

18:39.576 --> 18:44.665
I was there for about two weeks,
and one night I went to a club called Quo,

18:45.207 --> 18:47.459
and I met this girl, Natalya Malyshev.

18:47.835 --> 18:52.172
She immediately befriended me.
She became like my instant best friend.

18:52.256 --> 18:56.301
She said that she knew this amazing guy.
He was a philanthropist.

18:56.385 --> 19:00.389
This guy genuinely is a really kind guy,

19:00.472 --> 19:04.560
and, you know, whatever my dream is,
he can make it come true.

19:07.104 --> 19:10.691
Natalya said,
"This guy would really like to meet you.

19:10.899 --> 19:12.317
We're going to the cinema."

19:13.694 --> 19:15.487
It was Jeffrey, of course.

19:18.115 --> 19:20.534
He was charming, charismatic,

19:21.076 --> 19:23.120
friendly, um, caring,

19:23.203 --> 19:25.622
where he actually listened to me.

19:27.082 --> 19:28.417
And then I get a call, like,

19:28.500 --> 19:31.461
I think it was the next day
or like two days after,

19:31.545 --> 19:33.547
and it was Natalya going,

19:34.047 --> 19:35.340
"You'll never believe it.

19:35.716 --> 19:37.301
Jeffrey really thought you were cool."

19:38.802 --> 19:42.347
This guy wants to help me out,
pay for my education.

19:42.431 --> 19:46.018
He was going to get me
into the Fashion Institute of Technology.

19:47.769 --> 19:49.813
Natalya said,
"And he's got this private island,

19:49.897 --> 19:53.901
and we're going on his private plane,
and it's amazing.

19:53.984 --> 19:56.361
It's like a tropical paradise and..."

19:56.445 --> 19:59.489
I'm, like, down for going
to a private island on a private plane.

20:03.493 --> 20:07.789
It was on that first plane journey
that something peculiar happened.

20:10.375 --> 20:16.340
Jeffrey started having hardcore sex
in front of everybody with another girl.

20:17.424 --> 20:20.844
And everyone else was sort of
pretending to be asleep and ignoring it,

20:20.928 --> 20:24.139
and I just found it really odd
that no one wa...

20:24.223 --> 20:25.891
no one was saying or reacting...

20:25.974 --> 20:29.102
So I just pretended to sort of nod off.
I didn't know where to look.

20:29.186 --> 20:34.024
It was traumatizing.
It's still a very vivid memory for me,

20:34.608 --> 20:36.068
and I should have known then.

20:36.151 --> 20:38.695
I should have trusted my instincts,
but I...

20:39.988 --> 20:40.822
I didn't.

20:46.620 --> 20:49.206
[seabirds squawking]

20:53.877 --> 20:57.297
[Gordon Ackley] The island is, uh,
approximately 75 acres.

20:58.966 --> 21:01.551
From St. Thomas,
it's about a ten-minute ride

21:01.635 --> 21:04.596
by passenger boat out to the island.

21:05.555 --> 21:08.475
This is Mr. Epstein's, uh,
principal residence,

21:08.767 --> 21:11.186
which is the island of Little Saint James.

21:12.521 --> 21:18.110
Mr. Epstein built little cabanas
and beach houses all across the island.

21:19.278 --> 21:21.029
The blue roof...

21:22.155 --> 21:27.119
that is closest to the water was
Mr. Epstein's personal residence.

21:27.661 --> 21:31.456
And the main house and the guest house,
that's where the guests would stay.

21:33.166 --> 21:36.294
He is not representative of the people
of the Virgin Islands,

21:36.378 --> 21:37.379
I can tell you that.

21:38.005 --> 21:40.966
But being on an island by yourself,

21:41.425 --> 21:43.969
I guess he felt he could do
whatever he wanted.

21:48.765 --> 21:52.311
[Giuffre] The island, that was one
of Jeffrey's favorite places to go

21:52.394 --> 21:53.895
because it was so isolated.

21:55.063 --> 21:57.024
There's no doubt that it was beautiful.

21:57.441 --> 21:58.525
It has a nickname,

21:59.026 --> 22:00.444
the Pedophile Island,

22:00.944 --> 22:03.155
but that wasn't
the nickname Jeffrey gave it.

22:03.780 --> 22:05.532
It was Little Saint Jeff's.

22:06.283 --> 22:07.534
That was his nickname for it.

22:08.952 --> 22:12.789
But it really is Orgy Island,
because that's what happened there.

22:13.206 --> 22:15.500
That was what that island meant to me.

22:21.506 --> 22:24.009
I started working on the island in 1999

22:24.384 --> 22:29.639
and worked until either the end of 2005
or the start of 2006.

22:30.432 --> 22:33.810
I was there for maintenance
on Jeffrey Epstein's telecommunications

22:33.894 --> 22:35.270
and data equipment.

22:37.022 --> 22:38.648
He wanted a private cellular network.

22:40.192 --> 22:42.694
Privacy was very important
to Jeffrey Epstein.

22:43.487 --> 22:45.697
I was on the island probably
a hundred times.

22:45.781 --> 22:49.409
I was ultimately in every...
[chuckling] single building

22:49.493 --> 22:51.745
that existed on the island at that time.

22:53.038 --> 22:56.792
And I would say every other month
I would see guests on the island,

22:56.875 --> 22:59.795
and the guests almost always included
young girls.

23:01.421 --> 23:04.883
One time I went to the Grotto,
the little beach,

23:04.966 --> 23:06.218
as it was coined,

23:06.635 --> 23:08.428
and when I walked down

23:08.512 --> 23:12.516
there was a gentleman who was not Jeffrey
and three girls.

23:13.100 --> 23:14.643
The three girls were topless.

23:14.726 --> 23:15.811
Um...

23:15.894 --> 23:20.023
The gentleman was, uh... nude.

23:20.857 --> 23:22.067
I left immediately.

23:23.944 --> 23:26.738
Sometimes there were other people
on the island

23:27.114 --> 23:28.490
that were important people.

23:29.783 --> 23:31.785
I saw Alan Dershowitz on the island.

23:32.160 --> 23:34.413
It was more of a business meeting.

23:34.496 --> 23:38.125
Another time,
I saw Bill Clinton sitting with Jeffrey

23:38.208 --> 23:40.460
on the living room porch area,

23:40.877 --> 23:42.629
which was Jeffrey's favorite spot.

23:43.755 --> 23:46.299
I saw no other guests there
at that time at all.

23:46.383 --> 23:50.720
I just said, "Hey, you know, wow...
Jeffrey's sitting with Bill Clinton."

23:51.972 --> 23:53.849
[Giuffre] Not all the men took part.

23:54.641 --> 23:56.935
I have, you know,
seen people on the island

23:57.018 --> 24:00.522
that came for a lunch or a dinner,
and they didn't stay very long.

24:02.482 --> 24:05.694
[Steve Scully] Jeffrey hung out with a lot
of powerful and well-known figures,

24:06.111 --> 24:10.282
both politically and financially,
and I mean...

24:10.740 --> 24:12.033
British royalty.

24:13.452 --> 24:15.829
It was probably around 2004,

24:15.912 --> 24:18.373
I saw Prince Andrew. He was at the pool.

24:19.166 --> 24:24.045
He was with, at that time,
an unknown girl to me.

24:24.588 --> 24:27.007
She was young. She didn't have any top on.

24:27.382 --> 24:29.092
They were engaged in foreplay.

24:29.551 --> 24:30.385
He was...

24:31.845 --> 24:34.181
grabbing her and grinding against her.

24:35.432 --> 24:38.351
You know, you tell yourself
that you didn't know for sure.

24:38.435 --> 24:41.146
You never really saw anything.

24:42.314 --> 24:43.940
But that's just all rationalization.

24:45.275 --> 24:49.654
Jeffrey Epstein, he was a guy
that concealed his deviance very well.

24:50.739 --> 24:52.491
But he didn't conceal it that well.

24:54.117 --> 24:56.536
One day, the pool guy's on the island
when I get there.

24:57.245 --> 24:58.955
He said, "Why are you doing this?"

24:59.206 --> 25:00.081
And I said,

25:00.499 --> 25:03.293
"I don't know. I really... The money."

25:03.752 --> 25:05.837
And he said, "Do you have any children?"

25:05.921 --> 25:09.090
And I said, "Yeah,
I have two daughters, 13 and 15."

25:09.674 --> 25:13.303
And he said, "Would you let your daughters
come to the island?"

25:13.720 --> 25:15.680
And when he said that,

25:16.097 --> 25:20.602
I realized I wouldn't let my two children
within five miles of that man.

25:21.811 --> 25:23.063
And I quit the next day.

25:26.524 --> 25:28.401
I don't believe
Jeffrey Epstein ever regretted

25:28.485 --> 25:30.612
a single thing he did in his life.

25:31.613 --> 25:35.533
I think that
he's one of those kinds of sociopaths

25:35.909 --> 25:41.748
that could afford to live out
his perversions in any way that he wanted.

25:47.337 --> 25:50.674
[Sarah Ransome] At the US Virgin Islands,
you've got authorities going, you know,

25:50.757 --> 25:52.676
"Hello, Mr. Epstein,
nice to see you again,"

25:52.759 --> 25:54.761
welcoming him at the airport

25:54.844 --> 25:56.721
as if he's some sort of celebrity,

25:57.180 --> 26:00.058
with about five girls trailing behind,

26:00.141 --> 26:02.060
and no one said anything.

26:02.769 --> 26:05.939
And I think that they knew.

26:06.356 --> 26:09.067
The airport staff knew.
The flight controllers knew.

26:09.150 --> 26:12.070
The pilots knew. The landing guys knew.

26:12.153 --> 26:14.698
The guys that are
even taking the luggage off knew.

26:15.198 --> 26:16.241
They all knew.

26:22.914 --> 26:25.375
From the very first day
that I arrived on the island,

26:25.458 --> 26:26.501
the abuse started.

26:28.169 --> 26:31.715
Natalya called me
and said that he, um...

26:31.798 --> 26:34.175
wanted to see me in... in his room.

26:35.302 --> 26:37.554
And there was this massage table,

26:37.637 --> 26:40.223
and then I was asked to go on the table.

26:42.767 --> 26:43.935
He just raped me.

26:46.938 --> 26:47.772
It...

26:48.607 --> 26:50.817
It was like lying on a surgeon's table

26:51.234 --> 26:54.195
and someone doing things to you

26:54.446 --> 26:57.741
that you have no control over.
You're... You're powerless.

26:58.199 --> 26:59.284
I was trapped.

27:00.493 --> 27:03.705
From the very first day,
I think I was in such shock

27:04.372 --> 27:07.250
because I think the more he saw

27:07.334 --> 27:10.712
you being damaged,
the more he enjoyed it...

27:11.755 --> 27:13.214
the more it excited him.

27:33.360 --> 27:35.862
This area here reminds me of

27:35.945 --> 27:39.074
the evening
when I tried to escape the island

27:39.449 --> 27:42.077
after I had been raped three times
that day.

27:44.371 --> 27:46.081
[voice breaking] And he would do things,

27:46.831 --> 27:48.625
so... [crying]

27:48.708 --> 27:50.710
[sobbing] It was... Sorry.

27:54.923 --> 27:58.718
[sobbing] He did things
that no man should ever do to a woman.

27:59.844 --> 28:01.513
And he did it all the time,

28:01.596 --> 28:03.807
and, you know,
that day I'd just had enough.

28:05.684 --> 28:08.603
My plan was just to swim away.

28:09.521 --> 28:12.649
And I specifically went
to a remote part of the island.

28:13.858 --> 28:17.821
Before I'd even gathered my thoughts
as to how I was going to climb down,

28:17.904 --> 28:22.534
uh... get into the ocean, swim away,
Jeffrey Epstein found me

28:23.034 --> 28:26.746
almost immediately. He knew exactly 
where I was, the location...

28:27.247 --> 28:28.123
Um...

28:28.206 --> 28:32.585
And I knew then that I was being filmed.
I was being watched 24/7.

28:33.044 --> 28:36.381
There were cameras all over the island,
and he got me back.

28:44.514 --> 28:47.183
[woman] Jeffrey's Island:
it's like smoke and mirrors.

28:47.684 --> 28:49.602
Some really bad stuff happened there.

28:50.562 --> 28:51.896
I'm Chauntae Davies,

28:51.980 --> 28:56.693
and I first met Jeffrey Epstein
at 21 years old.

28:58.069 --> 29:01.364
I worked for Jeffrey
as a professional masseuse.

29:01.865 --> 29:03.241
It was the end of 2001

29:03.324 --> 29:05.785
when they said,
"We're flying to Jeffrey's island."

29:06.494 --> 29:08.788
And here I was going
to this private island in...

29:08.872 --> 29:12.292
in the... in the Caribbean
and, you know, just all this was just

29:12.375 --> 29:14.043
so foreign to me that I just, you know,

29:14.127 --> 29:18.214
I was... I started to get very excited
because I was starting to really see

29:18.298 --> 29:19.883
the perks of working for them.

29:22.218 --> 29:23.803
They showed me around the island,

29:23.887 --> 29:26.014
the various villas
and where I was staying.

29:27.599 --> 29:30.059
So after dinner that night,
I went back to my room,

29:30.643 --> 29:33.897
and then Sarah Kellen, their assistant,
came knocking on my door and said,

29:33.980 --> 29:35.940
"Jeffrey is ready for his massage now."

29:37.984 --> 29:39.986
[sinister music]

29:40.987 --> 29:43.990
[Chauntae Davies] It started to feel
like this is not... this is not okay.

29:44.073 --> 29:46.075
This is not...
This isn't going somewhere good.

29:48.995 --> 29:51.289
I began the massage like I always did,

29:51.915 --> 29:56.419
and then he flipped around,
and he threw me on the bed

29:56.503 --> 29:58.755
by holding my wrists together
and raped me.

30:02.884 --> 30:05.887
He... jumped off the bed
and got in the shower,

30:05.970 --> 30:10.767
and I just jumped off the bed also,
and ran out of the door,

30:10.850 --> 30:12.769
and ran all the way back to my villa.

30:13.478 --> 30:17.148
I'd left my shoes behind
and was barefoot running back,

30:17.232 --> 30:21.027
and by the time I got back to my villa,
my feet were... were a bloody mess,

30:21.110 --> 30:24.155
and then I just cried myself to sleep
that night and...

30:25.365 --> 30:28.535
woke up the next day and tried to pretend
like it didn't happen.

30:29.661 --> 30:32.997
Did I resist? Absolutely.
Did I say no? Yes, I did.

30:33.414 --> 30:34.874
Did I fight? No, I didn't.

30:35.083 --> 30:35.917
Um...

30:37.418 --> 30:38.962
You know, I was terrified.

30:39.045 --> 30:41.005
[voice breaking] I was isolated
on a private island

30:41.089 --> 30:42.382
in the middle of nowhere and...

30:43.007 --> 30:43.841
Um...

30:46.177 --> 30:47.011
[sighs]

30:48.304 --> 30:50.223
Just didn't, you know...

30:50.849 --> 30:52.225
Just let it happen.

31:06.239 --> 31:09.117
Jeffrey Epstein went to jail
just before 10:00 this morning.

31:09.200 --> 31:11.035
He pleaded guilty in open court.

31:11.119 --> 31:14.706
He agreed to serve a total of 18 months
in the Palm Beach Detention Facility.

31:14.789 --> 31:17.584
[man] It was negotiated between
the federal government and the state

31:17.667 --> 31:21.129
that Mr. Epstein would serve his time
at a county jail...

31:21.796 --> 31:22.755
which was ours.

31:26.050 --> 31:29.429
Mr. Epstein stayed in T dorm,

31:29.512 --> 31:31.889
which is located
where my finger is pointing.

31:33.057 --> 31:36.686
Describing this as a jail sentence

31:37.186 --> 31:40.189
is grossly misleading.

31:40.648 --> 31:44.986
He served it
in a private wing of the jail.

31:45.445 --> 31:47.280
[Edwards] His cell door was left open.

31:47.363 --> 31:50.116
He was provided food
that other people didn't get to eat.

31:50.199 --> 31:51.909
He was provided a TV room.

31:51.993 --> 31:54.370
He got to meet with his lawyers
almost around the clock

31:54.454 --> 31:57.916
when he was at the jail facility.

32:00.835 --> 32:04.255
[Michael Gauger] Mr. Epstein was given
work release that he qualified for

32:04.339 --> 32:06.007
immediately upon his entry.

32:08.134 --> 32:10.011
[Edwards] Are you released from jail
at some time?

32:10.094 --> 32:12.513
Do you have to report back to jail
on a daily basis?

32:13.097 --> 32:15.224
Yes, I report back to jail at 8:00 p.m.

32:15.767 --> 32:17.310
[Edwards stammers] Every single day?

32:17.977 --> 32:18.811
Yes, sir.

32:18.895 --> 32:22.148
[Edwards] And is it seven days a week
that you're out on work release?

32:22.231 --> 32:23.066
No, sir.

32:23.149 --> 32:25.526
[Edwards] How many days a week
are you out on work release?

32:25.652 --> 32:26.486
Six.

32:26.945 --> 32:28.279
[Edwards] And of those six days,

32:28.363 --> 32:30.948
how many hours per day
are you out on work release?

32:31.032 --> 32:31.866
Twelve.

32:33.242 --> 32:38.081
For sex offenders to be on work release
makes no sense to me.

32:40.375 --> 32:43.169
[Gauger] Every other inmate
would be given the same privileges

32:43.252 --> 32:44.712
if they met the parameters.

32:45.797 --> 32:50.218
Mr. Epstein had to file
for a work permit application,

32:50.301 --> 32:52.178
and that's what I have in my hand.

32:53.137 --> 32:56.432
"Participants shall not engage in
or have contact with any person

32:56.516 --> 32:58.434
that's engaged in illegal activities."

33:00.353 --> 33:03.189
Part of the agreement was
an off-duty deputy

33:03.272 --> 33:06.025
that he would be responsible
for the salaries of

33:06.275 --> 33:11.406
that would be with him the entire time
of, uh... at his office.

33:12.490 --> 33:16.744
It was approximately $42 an hour
for a deputy to be with him.

33:17.203 --> 33:19.205
So that's 12 hours per day.

33:19.831 --> 33:22.250
Here are the payments
that were made by Epstein,

33:22.667 --> 33:27.296
uh, with a total of $128,136.

33:29.799 --> 33:33.302
[Edwards] At the office,
he was able to ask other females

33:33.386 --> 33:34.679
to send him photographs.

33:35.263 --> 33:39.100
He was able to fly girls in.
He was able to engage in sexual acts.

33:40.143 --> 33:44.397
[Gauger] We were given Mr. Epstein
under conditions that we were not used to,

33:45.023 --> 33:47.608
and we did the very best we could

33:47.692 --> 33:49.444
under the parameters that we had.

33:53.239 --> 33:55.908
[Musgrave] It's hard to decide 
which part of the deal is the worst,

33:55.992 --> 33:59.454
but I think probably the biggest laugh was
that he was allowed to leave.

33:59.537 --> 34:00.496
So he was just like,

34:00.580 --> 34:02.582
he was staying at a really bad motel.

34:03.875 --> 34:05.626
[Ransome] He did jail, whatever that is,

34:05.710 --> 34:07.962
but you know a Holiday Inn.
[chuckles] Great.

34:08.045 --> 34:11.674
So, I've been raped over and over again

34:12.300 --> 34:17.889
because Alex Acosta didn't have
the balls or the courage to protect us.

34:26.773 --> 34:30.818
[reporter 1] A few steps, a smile,
and a wave to the deputy at the door.

34:30.902 --> 34:33.237
We watched Jeffrey Epstein
walk out of jail,

34:33.321 --> 34:35.364
but only his attorneys heard from him.

34:35.448 --> 34:37.617
He's very happy
that his jail sentence is over,

34:37.700 --> 34:40.036
and, uh, he can begin a new chapter
in his life.

34:45.500 --> 34:48.044
[reporter 2] Palm Beach billionaire 
Jeffrey Epstein is waking up

34:48.127 --> 34:49.545
in his mansion this morning

34:49.629 --> 34:52.465
after serving just 13 months
of his 18 month sentence

34:52.548 --> 34:54.717
for paying underage girls for sex.

34:55.510 --> 34:58.763
[reporter 3] Epstein will serve 12 months 
house arrest at his Palm Beach home.

34:58.846 --> 35:00.765
The 54-year-old will be confined
to his home

35:00.848 --> 35:04.268
except for work and other activities
approved by his probation officer.

35:06.938 --> 35:10.233
[Fisten] In 2009,
after Jeffrey Epstein got out of jail,

35:10.316 --> 35:12.860
victims' attorney Brad Edwards asked me

35:12.944 --> 35:16.239
to follow Jeffrey to see
if he was abiding by his probation.

35:18.407 --> 35:21.869
So we're about a block and a half east
of Jeffrey's house.

35:22.829 --> 35:26.791
The street here, you get a good view
of who would come in and out of his gate.

35:26.874 --> 35:28.459
[camera shutter clicking]

35:31.129 --> 35:32.171
[camera shutter clicking]

35:33.506 --> 35:36.884
[Fisten] There was a couple of occasions
where we knew Jeffrey was hiding

35:36.968 --> 35:38.511
in the car when he left.

35:40.054 --> 35:43.683
He would violate his probation
almost on a daily basis.

35:47.436 --> 35:51.357
There's 11 pages here
of just different violations.

35:52.400 --> 35:56.154
I think I myself documented
66 different days

35:56.237 --> 35:58.114
that he violated his probation.

35:59.240 --> 36:00.783
On this particular day...

36:00.867 --> 36:03.286
-[camera shutter clicking]
-...Epstein left his house...

36:03.369 --> 36:04.662
[camera shutter clicking]

36:04.745 --> 36:08.583
...and drove to South Beach where he met
with Alan Dershowitz at a hotel.

36:08.666 --> 36:09.959
[camera shutter clicking]

36:10.042 --> 36:12.420
[Fisten] This is pictures 
of his bodyguard, Igor,

36:12.503 --> 36:14.297
outside waiting for them to come out.

36:14.964 --> 36:16.257
That's his Escalade.

36:16.340 --> 36:19.594
I had contacted the probation
and said, "Do you know where Jeffrey is?"

36:19.677 --> 36:21.762
And she said,
"Yeah, he's home at his house."

36:21.846 --> 36:24.599
I said, "No he's not.
He's at a hotel down in Miami."

36:25.433 --> 36:28.019
I waited outside for Jeffrey to leave.

36:28.102 --> 36:31.105
I just got out of my car with my camera
and I said, "Hey, smile."

36:31.189 --> 36:32.398
[camera shutter clicking]

36:34.859 --> 36:37.320
-[camera shutter clicking]
-[Fisten] He would go to New York...

36:37.570 --> 36:38.571
to his island.

36:39.655 --> 36:41.616
He would go to the airport,
jump in his helicopter.

36:41.699 --> 36:44.327
Who knows where he went
without telling anybody?

36:44.744 --> 36:47.455
Every time I brought
the probation office a case,

36:47.705 --> 36:49.540
they kept telling me the same thing.

36:49.624 --> 36:52.168
"What would you like us to do?
He's a celebrity."

36:52.251 --> 36:54.003
I mean, just think about this.

36:54.212 --> 36:56.881
You have a pedophile out on probation.

36:57.548 --> 37:00.176
To violate probation
in the state of Florida is illegal,

37:00.635 --> 37:02.136
except for Jeffrey Epstein.

37:02.220 --> 37:03.221
[camera shutter clicks]

37:11.771 --> 37:14.941
[Davies] In 2002,
Jeffrey's office asked me

37:15.024 --> 37:17.485
if I wanted to go on a trip to Africa.

37:18.736 --> 37:23.824
I was reluctant to go
because I was traumatized on the island,

37:23.908 --> 37:26.953
but I developed the sort of mentality

37:27.036 --> 37:28.996
that as long as I didn't talk
about the abuse,

37:29.080 --> 37:30.456
it didn't really happen.

37:30.539 --> 37:34.085
It was something that, you know,
I'd kind of been conditioned to

37:34.168 --> 37:35.795
from my childhood. Just, you know,

37:35.878 --> 37:38.047
there was so many tragedies
and traumas that happened,

37:38.130 --> 37:39.924
and none of it was ever talked about.

37:40.633 --> 37:42.927
So Ghislaine got
on one of the phone calls and said,

37:43.010 --> 37:45.846
"This is a great opportunity,
and we'd love to have you."

37:45.930 --> 37:47.473
I went from just the masseuse

37:47.556 --> 37:50.518
to being asked to be a personal assistant
on this trip.

37:50.935 --> 37:55.272
So I was blinded by the opportunity of it.

37:56.023 --> 37:57.608
I hadn't gone anywhere really

37:57.692 --> 38:00.027
and to go to Africa was like
a dream come true.

38:01.237 --> 38:03.197
I flew from L.A. to New York.

38:03.281 --> 38:05.950
The plane was ready on the tarmac
when I got there,

38:06.033 --> 38:07.493
and I took a seat.

38:09.412 --> 38:12.415
Then... our... our guests arrived.

38:13.541 --> 38:15.334
It was Bill Clinton,

38:15.960 --> 38:18.296
Kevin Spacey, and Chris Tucker.

38:18.379 --> 38:19.338
I was...

38:19.880 --> 38:21.299
blown away, like, "Oh, my God!"

38:21.382 --> 38:22.425
It was surreal.

38:23.342 --> 38:25.511
But the trip was
about the AIDS organization

38:25.594 --> 38:26.887
that Clinton had started.

38:27.430 --> 38:32.018
This trip to Africa
is probably the single most...

38:33.019 --> 38:35.688
amazing moment of my life.

38:37.398 --> 38:39.817
And I remember having
this false belief that

38:40.443 --> 38:43.487
the abuse had stopped
because nothing had happened in Africa,

38:43.571 --> 38:46.741
thinking that maybe
it just wasn't going to happen anymore.

38:47.825 --> 38:49.160
But after the Africa trip,

38:49.535 --> 38:53.664
the abuse started all over again,
and it never stopped after that.

38:56.042 --> 38:59.837
It never once occurred to me
that I was being paid for anything more

38:59.920 --> 39:02.798
than being a masseuse.
I really kept it separate.

39:02.882 --> 39:06.469
I was there for a job, and this man was
also sexually assaulting me on the side.

39:06.552 --> 39:08.262
It was two separate things for me.

39:08.929 --> 39:10.514
I definitely didn't have...

39:11.599 --> 39:15.394
the mature mindset
of a normal 21, 22, 23-year-old.

39:16.645 --> 39:19.982
My mom had fled
an extremely abusive relationship,

39:20.066 --> 39:23.361
and so when we fled,
I was taking care of my sister.

39:24.820 --> 39:29.033
Years later, my then 17-year-old sister
was living with me.

39:32.036 --> 39:35.873
On one random weekend,
Jeffrey and Ghislaine flew to L.A.,

39:36.290 --> 39:38.167
and they just invited me for lunch.

39:38.626 --> 39:40.503
Ghislaine was like, 
"Bring her along," you know,

39:40.586 --> 39:43.506
and it never occurred to me
that this was maybe a bad idea.

39:44.423 --> 39:47.426
I never thought
that he was doing this to other people.

39:47.510 --> 39:48.344
I really didn't.

39:49.553 --> 39:50.429
So...

39:51.388 --> 39:53.516
I brought my sister with me...

39:54.475 --> 39:56.769
and it was decided right then and there

39:56.852 --> 39:58.896
that they were going to send her
to school in Spain

39:58.979 --> 40:02.691
to study language and to pursue her dream
to be a translator.

40:05.444 --> 40:09.365
It wasn't until April of 2005,
almost two years later,

40:09.448 --> 40:12.201
that I learned
that he was also doing this to my sister.

40:14.203 --> 40:16.789
She came back home
with an eating disorder.

40:17.415 --> 40:19.959
She was rail-thin
and looked horrible, and...

40:21.460 --> 40:23.379
she confessed that Jeffrey had been...

40:24.213 --> 40:25.631
sexually assaulting her...

40:26.382 --> 40:29.009
basically since they sent her to school.

40:31.679 --> 40:33.806
I never knew until she came home that day.

40:35.641 --> 40:38.936
My sister thought that Jeffrey was
the most powerful man she'd ever meet

40:39.019 --> 40:41.230
and knew that he was friends
with celebrities and...

40:41.313 --> 40:43.357
and, you know, wealthy people and...

40:44.233 --> 40:48.154
There was an altercation that took place
in Jeffrey's Paris apartment

40:48.737 --> 40:50.239
with Harvey Weinstein.

40:51.240 --> 40:53.117
My sister came running from the room,

40:53.200 --> 40:56.203
freaked out at whatever he'd said
and did in there,

40:56.579 --> 40:59.665
and immediately,
Harvey Weinstein's assistant got involved,

40:59.748 --> 41:01.917
trying to remedy the situation...

41:02.877 --> 41:04.879
by sending flowers and apology notes.

41:06.881 --> 41:10.301
Jeffrey and Harvey are both
very disgusting people

41:10.968 --> 41:15.556
who used their power
to manipulate and abuse.

41:17.725 --> 41:22.313
I let Jeffrey know that I knew
what he had done to my sister

41:22.396 --> 41:26.442
and that I didn't want to, you know,
have anything to do with him anymore.

41:29.528 --> 41:32.072
And he told me that

41:32.156 --> 41:36.118
if I thought I could get anywhere in life
without his help that I was wrong,

41:36.744 --> 41:40.831
and basically hung up on me after that,
and we never spoke again.

41:43.834 --> 41:45.044
I still feel...

41:46.086 --> 41:50.549
an immense amount of guilt
because I was responsible for her and I...

41:51.050 --> 41:54.803
let her s... move to a different country
under the pretense

41:54.887 --> 41:57.264
that she was going to get
this amazing education,

41:57.348 --> 41:59.975
and she came back traumatized

42:00.059 --> 42:02.394
at the same hands of the person
who was traumatizing me

42:02.478 --> 42:04.063
for the last three years and...

42:04.271 --> 42:05.105
Um...

42:06.273 --> 42:09.485
How could she not be angry? You know?
I would be angry.

42:11.445 --> 42:13.364
There's definitely still a lot of...

42:14.448 --> 42:19.912
guilt and anger that I have and feel
that I don't know will ever go away.

42:23.374 --> 42:25.668
[Ransome] Jeffrey found out
where your weakness was.

42:26.418 --> 42:28.170
When I was 14, I had been raped.

42:28.254 --> 42:31.882
That one rape will affect you
for the rest of your life.

42:35.761 --> 42:39.974
Part of being sexually trafficked is
you're coerced right from the start.

42:40.516 --> 42:42.017
Once you've opened that door,

42:42.101 --> 42:44.979
they then shut that door
so you can't get back out.

42:46.730 --> 42:49.191
Jeffrey put me up in his apartment
in New York.

42:50.192 --> 42:51.944
He gave me enough money to buy food.

42:52.027 --> 42:54.571
He was, um, organizing my transportation.

42:54.780 --> 42:56.532
He was going to be paying
for my education.

42:56.615 --> 42:58.659
My whole life was based through Jeffrey.

43:03.622 --> 43:06.709
It was eight and a half months
that I had Jeffrey in my life.

43:10.045 --> 43:15.718
This is as an abusive relationship
physically and... and mentally as it gets.

43:17.428 --> 43:19.596
But I left... and I disappeared.

43:28.480 --> 43:29.857
So when I fled New York,

43:30.524 --> 43:32.026
I fled for my life.

43:35.487 --> 43:36.864
You're either going to live or die.

43:37.364 --> 43:39.074
That's... That's... That's simple.

43:58.385 --> 44:01.263
[Fisten] Jeffrey Epstein,
after he got released on probation,

44:01.347 --> 44:03.057
he goes to New York.

44:03.140 --> 44:04.933
The first thing he does is have a party.

44:05.017 --> 44:06.894
All these people showing up at this house.

44:07.353 --> 44:08.771
The Prince is there.

44:08.854 --> 44:10.356
Woody Allen's there.

44:11.190 --> 44:12.566
After everybody knew

44:13.192 --> 44:16.737
a large number
of underage girls were abused,

44:16.820 --> 44:19.907
people continued to associate themselves
with him.

44:22.701 --> 44:24.953
[Epstein] I'm just looking to, you know,
get my life back.

44:25.037 --> 44:26.455
Go into my philanthropy.

44:27.623 --> 44:30.542
I must have given away
like $14 million last year.

44:31.585 --> 44:33.671
I've collected some
of the world's smartest people.

44:33.754 --> 44:37.716
I've funded some of the world's
greatest cutting-edge science.

44:38.592 --> 44:42.596
I mean, I have lots of Nobel Prize winners
come here and they end up, you know...

44:43.639 --> 44:46.642
getting funded for some things that
it's difficult to get funded for now.

44:46.725 --> 44:49.395
Quantum computing, for example.

44:50.062 --> 44:52.356
Evolutionary code theory.

44:52.439 --> 44:53.440
[Rush] Mm-hmm.

44:55.150 --> 45:00.614
So you're not, um...
you're not... engaging in any sort

45:00.698 --> 45:03.951
-of illegal massage or...?
-[Epstein scoffs] No. I'm afraid not.

45:05.452 --> 45:08.205
Most of the scientists who come here
are in their 70s and 80s,

45:08.288 --> 45:11.250
and they're probably...
They're not that attractive.

45:14.044 --> 45:16.463
[Marc Fisher] Epstein, uh...
managed to maintain

45:16.547 --> 45:19.883
a very good reputation
in many, uh, circles

45:19.967 --> 45:25.013
by being a very generous donor
to universities, to research centers.

45:25.764 --> 45:29.143
He would show up at academic conferences,
at medical conventions,

45:29.768 --> 45:33.397
and not only write them a check
but want to be part of the discussion.

45:36.316 --> 45:39.027
[Annie Farmer] It was really troubling
how quickly he was just,

45:39.111 --> 45:42.322
you know, brought back into the fold
in his... in his world

45:42.406 --> 45:45.367
and the celebrities that felt
like it was just fine, you know,

45:45.451 --> 45:48.662
to socialize with him
and be in public with him.

45:49.413 --> 45:51.665
It felt like there was
just really no consequence

45:51.749 --> 45:54.042
and people didn't care about his behavior.

45:54.126 --> 45:55.669
It was really disheartening.

46:02.843 --> 46:04.970
[Musgrave] I think that is
one of the tragedies of the case,

46:05.053 --> 46:08.974
is Jeffrey Epstein was allowed
to just resume business as usual.

46:09.308 --> 46:11.602
His victims struggled, you know?

46:11.685 --> 46:14.646
They had had, you know,
this horrible experience.

46:14.730 --> 46:16.523
Nobody had taken them seriously.

46:16.607 --> 46:19.401
And you know, yeah,
for years I think a lot of them struggled

46:19.485 --> 46:22.988
and still probably to this day...
are still struggling.

46:30.829 --> 46:35.083
[Wild] Being so young at 14,
being introduced to Jeffrey Epstein,

46:35.792 --> 46:36.627
you know...

46:37.628 --> 46:41.215
having this sexual relationship
with a guy that gives me money.

46:41.965 --> 46:43.258
It was too much.

46:44.426 --> 46:46.428
I just dropped out of high school.

46:47.346 --> 46:53.435
It wasn't pretty. It was, um... you know,
drugs, money, sex, fast life.

46:54.061 --> 46:57.773
Um... For a very long time,
I went down that road.

46:59.316 --> 47:02.778
And that did lead me into incarceration.

47:04.655 --> 47:06.990
It was a dark time, for sure.

47:12.913 --> 47:16.834
[Licata] I started going down
this really depressing road.

47:19.419 --> 47:20.796
I hated myself.

47:21.880 --> 47:25.050
I wanted to inflict pain on myself.

47:25.926 --> 47:27.803
So I would just take like a knife,

47:27.886 --> 47:29.555
and I'd just like...

47:29.638 --> 47:32.474
Just cut it right here on my arm.

47:34.852 --> 47:36.895
If I was the one doing the pain...

47:37.938 --> 47:40.482
then it wasn't
anybody else doing it to me.

47:41.733 --> 47:45.654
I wanted to... to know that
I could always have control of a situation

47:45.737 --> 47:51.034
because that situation that I was in
made me feel like I was helpless.

47:52.786 --> 47:56.331
Things only got worse after that.

47:57.416 --> 48:00.210
I was doing drugs.

48:00.836 --> 48:02.629
Started out with pills

48:03.046 --> 48:05.465
and then mushrooms...

48:06.341 --> 48:07.634
acid...

48:08.552 --> 48:09.511
heroin.

48:10.596 --> 48:11.805
Gotten to a point and just...

48:11.888 --> 48:15.350
I... [sighs] I'm just gonna kill myself
doing these drugs and...

48:15.934 --> 48:17.269
why would it matter?

48:21.773 --> 48:25.611
There's days when I don't get out of bed,

48:25.694 --> 48:27.738
and I don't feel like
I'm going to make it.

48:29.406 --> 48:33.118
I lost a lot of friends.
I had to quit a lot of places

48:33.201 --> 48:35.037
because I was being bullied at work.

48:35.537 --> 48:36.580
I struggled.

48:39.166 --> 48:41.376
Even though I was a minor
when I met him,

48:41.460 --> 48:42.628
I wasn't protected.

48:43.003 --> 48:44.546
My name was thrown out there.

48:46.173 --> 48:48.842
I was definitely vilified, humiliated.

48:49.343 --> 48:52.596
They released my name.
They released my pictures.

48:53.555 --> 48:55.807
They released
a lot of personal information.

48:56.475 --> 48:58.518
I was a victim, just like the other girls.

48:58.602 --> 49:03.023
I was, um, preyed upon by Jeffrey Epstein,
the same way the others were.

49:05.984 --> 49:09.154
I do think about the girls that I brought,
that I recruited...

49:09.821 --> 49:12.741
and I think this is probably
the hardest part because of the guilt.

49:13.909 --> 49:15.619
That's what destroys me every day.

49:27.172 --> 49:29.758
[Giuffre] Being lent out
and being abused by Epstein,

49:30.092 --> 49:31.510
I was in a bad way.

49:31.593 --> 49:34.054
I was very scared,
and I was very alone...

49:34.930 --> 49:36.848
and I knew that I had to get out.

49:38.266 --> 49:40.435
I didn't know
what that opportunity was going to be

49:40.519 --> 49:44.272
when I started packing those bags,
but I really felt like this was my break.

49:46.149 --> 49:47.359
I'm in Australia now...

49:48.610 --> 49:50.737
and I have been for 17 years

49:50.821 --> 49:52.781
since I escaped from Jeffrey Epstein.

49:55.325 --> 49:59.079
It was 2002, just before my 19th birthday.

49:59.579 --> 50:02.499
I'd been with Jeffrey
just over two years at that point.

50:03.166 --> 50:06.545
We went for a snorkeling day
on his island...

50:07.629 --> 50:11.091
and Ghislaine's like, "I wanna talk to you
about something kind of serious."

50:11.174 --> 50:14.094
And I thought, "Oh, God,
what are they going to ask me to do now?"

50:15.387 --> 50:19.141
And she goes, "Well, Jeffrey and I,
we want to have a baby.

50:19.224 --> 50:21.435
We want you to have the baby for us,

50:21.518 --> 50:23.979
but it's not really going to be your kid

50:24.062 --> 50:27.858
because we need you to sign over
that child's rights to us."

50:29.651 --> 50:32.863
It was gut-wrenching.
I just... I knew I had to get out.

50:35.073 --> 50:38.201
But I was afraid to say no,
so I said, "Okay, well,

50:38.910 --> 50:41.747
you guys did promise me
that I'd get an education.

50:42.539 --> 50:46.126
So could you at least let me get
my massage certificate...

50:47.461 --> 50:48.378
and we'll do it."

50:49.504 --> 50:51.381
And not even a few weeks later,

50:51.465 --> 50:55.135
Jeffrey gives me these tickets
booked to Thailand...

50:55.552 --> 50:56.470
Um...

50:56.553 --> 50:58.889
And he says,
"Happy birthday. This is for you.

50:58.972 --> 51:01.016
You're going to go get a certificate."

51:03.727 --> 51:07.230
So I get to Thailand, and I'm like,

51:07.731 --> 51:11.234
"I have an opportunity here to escape.

51:12.110 --> 51:15.113
I've got to tell somebody what's going on.
I've got to leave."

51:17.657 --> 51:19.701
Nearly immediately, I met Robert.

51:20.577 --> 51:21.578
We fell in love.

51:22.329 --> 51:25.916
It was the first moment in my life where
I said I can take control of my own life.

51:26.875 --> 51:28.168
He got on one knee.

51:28.251 --> 51:30.253
He proposed, just like that.

51:30.921 --> 51:33.173
He said, "Come back to Australia with me."

51:35.342 --> 51:38.595
Seven days later, we were married
in a Chiang Mai Buddhist temple

51:38.845 --> 51:39.930
in the mountains.

51:41.431 --> 51:43.391
It was the happiest moment of my life.

51:49.481 --> 51:51.650
I called Jeffrey.
I didn't know what to say

51:51.733 --> 51:53.276
or how to say it, but I said...

51:53.360 --> 51:56.363
I just blurted out, um...
"Jeffrey, I just got married...

51:57.656 --> 51:59.574
and, um, I'm not coming back."

52:00.784 --> 52:02.202
He said, "What do you mean?"

52:02.786 --> 52:05.622
And you could tell he was pissed,
well pissed.

52:06.331 --> 52:08.708
And I'm scared. I'm scared to death.

52:09.543 --> 52:12.295
I said, "Jeffrey, I'm...
Just I've started a new life.

52:12.379 --> 52:14.256
You know, that's it."

52:16.466 --> 52:17.717
And he hung up the phone.

52:20.220 --> 52:23.849
I felt free. I mean, I immediately felt
like the chains broke off.

52:27.018 --> 52:28.770
It was a powerful moment for me...

52:29.813 --> 52:32.107
but one of the first things
that I said to my husband was,

52:32.190 --> 52:33.650
"Robbie, enough's enough.

52:33.733 --> 52:36.820
We've got to do something.
He needs to be brought to justice."

52:37.112 --> 52:40.115
Then I said,
"Okay, let's hold them accountable."

52:40.824 --> 52:43.243
And that's when we decided
we're going to go get them.

52:43.952 --> 52:45.036
We're gonna go get them all.
're going to go get them.
