WEBVTT 00:18.518 --> 00:20.603 [female on police radio] 3991 on the suspect. 00:20.687 --> 00:22.397 [indistinct talk on police radio] 00:22.814 --> 00:24.023 [male on police radio] Morning. 00:24.941 --> 00:27.861 This is a complete description of the residence desired to be searched 00:27.944 --> 00:30.029 including the curtilage attached thereof. 00:30.363 --> 00:33.616 Being the premises occupied or under the control of Jeffrey Epstein, 00:33.700 --> 00:35.910 white male, date of birth 1/20/53. 00:39.039 --> 00:39.956 This is your copy. 00:40.832 --> 00:42.125 When we are concluded, 00:42.208 --> 00:45.295 I will leave a list of what items we're taking. 00:46.129 --> 00:48.131 [dramatic music] 00:51.718 --> 00:55.388 Seven months into the case, detectives executed the search warrant 00:55.472 --> 00:57.140 at Mr. Epstein's residence. 01:00.643 --> 01:02.729 [Tim Malloy] They opened the doors and went up the winding staircase 01:02.812 --> 01:04.606 into his ornate and bizarre world. 01:05.482 --> 01:07.609 Pictures of young kids half-naked. 01:09.819 --> 01:10.904 Nudes everywhere. 01:14.991 --> 01:18.995 One of the police officers who saw it said that it was just really weird. 01:23.750 --> 01:25.627 Detectives also discovered 01:26.044 --> 01:29.839 a very bizarre steam room and massage room setup. 01:33.968 --> 01:37.097 They actually found some computers and equipment that remain in the house, 01:37.180 --> 01:40.016 but police suspected most of Epstein's computer hard drives, 01:40.100 --> 01:43.728 and surveillance cameras, and videos had already been taken out of the house. 01:45.146 --> 01:47.899 [Michael Reiter] There was space on a desk where wires were hanging, 01:47.982 --> 01:49.275 but there was no computer. 01:50.777 --> 01:53.113 At that point, it was fairly clear to us 01:53.196 --> 01:56.241 that Mr. Epstein knew that he was under investigation. 01:57.700 --> 01:59.244 Epstein had been tipped off. 02:46.833 --> 02:50.503 [sinister music] 02:57.760 --> 02:59.679 [Reiter] After the search warrant, 02:59.762 --> 03:04.142 it was disappointing to realize that Epstein's house had been cleaned up. 03:04.893 --> 03:07.437 There were a lot of things that had been removed. 03:10.315 --> 03:12.942 But there was still plenty of evidence that was left. 03:13.776 --> 03:16.779 I think the most useful thing that we learned 03:17.238 --> 03:19.449 was that the victims' accounts, 03:19.908 --> 03:23.286 detailed descriptions  of Mr. Epstein's home, 03:23.369 --> 03:26.915 where rooms were located, the configuration of the home, 03:26.998 --> 03:29.083 validated what they had told us. 03:30.627 --> 03:34.005 There were memo pads of phone calls that we seized 03:34.088 --> 03:35.798 that included contact information 03:35.882 --> 03:41.221 for some of the victims and for some of the adult females 03:41.304 --> 03:44.891 that had been used to identify and recruit the victims, 03:44.974 --> 03:47.936 so that was productive for us as well. 03:53.399 --> 03:55.360 [woman] The message pads that were taken 03:55.443 --> 03:58.404 from the investigation that  the Palm Beach Police Department did, 03:58.488 --> 03:59.489 they're very revealing. 04:01.032 --> 04:05.244 Individuals who were being called or calling back in 04:05.328 --> 04:08.289 to come over for these sexual massages. 04:08.706 --> 04:11.376 For example, one has a redaction on it, 04:11.459 --> 04:14.212 meaning it was a minor who was calling in, and it says, 04:14.295 --> 04:18.549 "She is wondering if 2:30 is okay. She needs to stay in school." 04:21.094 --> 04:24.555 I think I took this case much more seriously than other matters 04:24.639 --> 04:27.225 that I've handled, in the sense that it was very personal. 04:27.308 --> 04:31.688 I do have a daughter. I have children. I met with these victims. 04:31.771 --> 04:34.065 It was very personal, the abuse that they suffered. 04:34.482 --> 04:35.358 I won't stop 04:35.441 --> 04:38.987 until the people who victimized these individuals are held accountable. 04:41.572 --> 04:45.326 The age of consent in Florida is 18. It does vary state to state, 04:45.410 --> 04:48.162 and in New York, for example, it's 17, 04:48.246 --> 04:50.748 but this really isn't a case about consent. 04:52.500 --> 04:55.586 The point of these cases is that there was no consent here. 05:02.385 --> 05:04.512 [Reiter] Seven months into the investigation, 05:05.013 --> 05:10.184 we were all extremely frustrated at the difficulty of this case. 05:12.103 --> 05:15.815 We applied whatever resources were necessary to do the best job, 05:16.232 --> 05:20.445 to quickly be able to reach the point that we could apply for arrest warrants. 05:21.446 --> 05:25.783 [man] Detectives that I talked to said that they were tiptoeing, 05:25.867 --> 05:29.662 they were acting a little cautiously because they knew there would be blowback. 05:29.746 --> 05:33.916 But also they were running into resistance even among their own, among colleagues. 05:34.000 --> 05:37.337 Uh, they knew that there were people who would protect 05:37.420 --> 05:39.922 any number of the residents on the island. 05:40.006 --> 05:44.218 And so, to go into a case like this, you had to walk gingerly, 05:44.302 --> 05:48.848 you had to make sure  that you held your information closely, 05:48.931 --> 05:51.768 and you had to be absolutely sure that you were right. 05:52.852 --> 05:56.397 [Reiter] We found that the victims ran the entire gamut 05:56.481 --> 06:00.109 from those that were thankful that we contacted them, 06:00.193 --> 06:03.946 others who said that they were in love with Jeffrey Epstein, 06:04.030 --> 06:06.282 and they were going to get married to Jeffrey Epstein. 06:07.116 --> 06:10.870 Some victims that we contacted had gone on to college 06:10.953 --> 06:13.998 who slammed the door in the face of detectives. 06:14.665 --> 06:16.876 We were very surprised to learn 06:17.460 --> 06:22.006 these criminal activities had gone on for a fairly long period of time, 06:22.090 --> 06:25.009 many years prior to the investigation. 06:39.107 --> 06:40.691 My name is Virginia Giuffre. 06:41.734 --> 06:46.155 When I was 16, I got a summer job at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago 06:46.239 --> 06:47.532 in Palm Beach. 06:48.032 --> 06:49.200 Uh, I was working there 06:49.283 --> 06:52.078 as a locker room attendant in the spa area. 06:53.329 --> 06:56.791 At the time, I really wanted to become a massage therapist. 06:57.375 --> 06:59.961 And not very long into working at Mar-a-Lago, 07:00.044 --> 07:02.672 did an English lady come up to me. 07:03.381 --> 07:05.675 She introduced herself as Ghislaine Maxwell. 07:06.801 --> 07:10.638 She was beautiful. She looked educated. She was nice. 07:11.180 --> 07:12.682 She said, "Oh, that's interesting. 07:12.765 --> 07:14.851 You're reading a book  about massage therapy." 07:14.934 --> 07:16.602 And she said, "You know, 07:16.686 --> 07:20.148 I actually know this guy who's looking for a traveling masseuse. 07:20.606 --> 07:23.943 You know, if you want, you can come by this afternoon after work, 07:24.026 --> 07:25.236 and you can come meet him." 07:27.905 --> 07:30.116 I'd finished work around 5:00, 07:30.199 --> 07:33.619 and I pull up at this huge house, this big mansion... 07:35.705 --> 07:37.582 and Ghislaine answers the door. 07:40.334 --> 07:42.962 I walk through the door, and she's leading me up the staircase, 07:43.045 --> 07:44.380 and I'm looking around, you know. 07:44.464 --> 07:46.841 There's photographs everywhere of important people. 07:46.924 --> 07:51.179 I could tell that, you know, like, this guy has some friends in high places. 07:53.097 --> 07:55.349 And then we go into the massage room, 07:55.933 --> 07:57.768 and there's this massage bed 07:58.561 --> 08:00.438 with a naked man laying on top of it, 08:00.855 --> 08:01.772 face down. 08:02.315 --> 08:04.150 To me this is, I guess, 08:04.233 --> 08:07.028 walking into a world I didn't understand, but I guess I'm gonna learn. 08:09.530 --> 08:12.658 Ghislaine shows me like, "Put your lotion here on your hands." 08:13.326 --> 08:14.785 And then we did his feet, 08:15.661 --> 08:16.621 his calves... 08:17.663 --> 08:18.539 his back. 08:19.624 --> 08:21.292 While the massage was going on, 08:21.375 --> 08:23.878 they asked me questions about my life. "So, who are you?" 08:23.961 --> 08:27.507 "What school do you go to?" Um... "Tell me about yourself." 08:27.590 --> 08:30.760 You know, and that's when I felt like I should open up and tell them, like, 08:30.843 --> 08:32.845 how much this opportunity means to me. 08:35.723 --> 08:39.685 My home life started out very hard from a very young age. 08:41.020 --> 08:43.856 I'd been a runaway and lived on the streets. 08:44.815 --> 08:46.108 I've been abused. 08:47.735 --> 08:50.738 I felt like it was okay to tell them about my past. 08:52.365 --> 08:53.699 And then he turned over. 08:54.242 --> 08:58.079 [sinister music] 08:58.162 --> 09:01.791 [Virginia Giuffre] They asked me... to please take off my clothes. 09:03.042 --> 09:05.127 Ghislaine started taking off her clothes. 09:06.587 --> 09:08.256 I didn't know what to do. 09:08.339 --> 09:11.884 I didn't know what was gonna happen if I said no, if I screamed. 09:12.677 --> 09:14.512 I just... I did what they said. 09:17.390 --> 09:19.392 Ghislaine was behind and touching me. 09:20.476 --> 09:23.729 It went from oral sex to get on top. 09:25.982 --> 09:30.027 Still to this day, I don't know how it went from something real 09:30.111 --> 09:32.989 to something perverted like that so quickly. 09:35.825 --> 09:36.701 Afterwards, 09:37.118 --> 09:40.746 they said, "The interview went great. You're going to come back tomorrow." 09:43.791 --> 09:44.709 And I did. 09:46.627 --> 09:52.049 I was abused plenty of times before Epstein had done what he did to me. 09:53.009 --> 09:59.181 I had no self-esteem. I was scared that my life was going to be worthless. 10:00.600 --> 10:03.144 I was the perfect victim for them. 10:06.272 --> 10:08.024 One thing that Epstein loved me for 10:08.107 --> 10:10.484 was that I never really asked too many questions. 10:11.694 --> 10:15.031 I escalated up the ladder very quickly with Epstein. 10:15.781 --> 10:17.158 I did whatever he needed, 10:18.075 --> 10:21.370 you know, put his socks on  for him before bed, uh... 10:21.787 --> 10:24.665 make sure what he needed sexually happened. 10:25.082 --> 10:27.043 I had to serve him all the time. 10:29.337 --> 10:30.171 They told me, 10:30.254 --> 10:32.798 "You're going to do so well. You're going to travel the world. 10:33.215 --> 10:35.468 You're gonna meet people that you'd never think you'd meet. 10:35.551 --> 10:39.096 We're gonna put you in circles that you would never even understand." 10:40.473 --> 10:43.351 Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell had a great way 10:43.434 --> 10:46.020 of normalizing the abuse that was going on. 10:46.854 --> 10:52.651 They kind of made it feel like we were in this really deranged family. 10:52.735 --> 10:55.529 You know, we would sit back, and we would watch movies together. 10:55.613 --> 10:59.116 We would go diving together. We would go hiking together. 10:59.200 --> 11:00.785 We would go on 4Runners together. 11:00.868 --> 11:03.913 We would do so many cool activities like that together. 11:04.955 --> 11:07.291 They kept saying, "We will get you educated. 11:07.375 --> 11:10.002 You will become a real massage therapist one day." 11:10.086 --> 11:15.508 But under the premise that afterwards you're back to the abuse. 11:16.884 --> 11:18.678 And, unfortunately... 11:19.595 --> 11:22.014 I didn't see my life getting any better. 11:22.682 --> 11:23.557 So I stayed. 11:28.187 --> 11:31.816 It was like I am now a slave to these people. 11:33.442 --> 11:34.902 And then I was trafficked. 11:37.071 --> 11:39.407 I was lent out to all of their friends. 11:39.490 --> 11:42.118 They were politicians. They were businessmen. 11:42.201 --> 11:43.703 They were powerful people. 11:44.954 --> 11:47.957 It made me think that if I had run and caused a ruckus, 11:48.374 --> 11:51.460 the police wouldn't have believed me, they wouldn't have done anything about it, 11:51.544 --> 11:54.588 and Jeffrey and Ghislaine could have hurt me really bad then. 11:55.214 --> 11:57.174 He did say like, "People owe me favors. 11:57.550 --> 11:59.510 I can get away with this. I will never get caught. 11:59.593 --> 12:02.263 I own the Palm Beach Police Department." 12:11.105 --> 12:13.607 [James Patterson] Jeffrey Epstein fits into that pattern 12:13.691 --> 12:15.401 of thinking that he's above the law, 12:15.484 --> 12:17.486 that he can do what he feels like doing. 12:18.654 --> 12:22.616 But the life of privilege and power that Epstein lead 12:22.700 --> 12:25.578 is a far, far cry from the way he was brought up. 12:26.537 --> 12:28.706 [children shouting, screaming] 12:28.789 --> 12:31.625 -[waves crashing] -[seagulls squawking] 12:33.377 --> 12:36.922 [Patterson] Epstein was born and raised in Coney Island, New York, 12:37.006 --> 12:39.842 which is very middle class, lower middle class. 12:40.342 --> 12:43.679 Epstein was a very good student in high school. He was a bright guy. 12:43.762 --> 12:47.224 He skipped a couple of grades in high school, graduated in 1969. 12:48.434 --> 12:50.227 [lawyer] What college did you attend? 12:50.311 --> 12:51.187 Cooper Union. 12:52.688 --> 12:54.607 [lawyer] Did you get a degree from Cooper Union? 12:54.690 --> 12:55.524 No, sir. 12:56.150 --> 12:58.027 [lawyer] How many years were you in college? 12:58.110 --> 12:59.987 [tuts] I believe two. 13:00.237 --> 13:01.572 [lawyer] What'd you study? 13:01.655 --> 13:02.531 Physics. 13:03.824 --> 13:06.202 [lawyer] But isn't it true that you were a teacher 13:06.952 --> 13:09.497 at the Dalton School in New York 13:10.498 --> 13:11.457 after college? 13:13.250 --> 13:14.835 [Patterson] The first mystery is 13:14.919 --> 13:20.800 how could Epstein get a job teaching at Dalton without a college degree? 13:22.051 --> 13:25.471 This was probably the start of Epstein's lifelong pattern 13:25.554 --> 13:28.849 of getting away with things that most people can't. 13:32.937 --> 13:37.191 [man] In 1976, Ace Greenberg was running Bear Stearns. 13:38.150 --> 13:41.070 One day, I was sitting in my office, 13:41.487 --> 13:46.450 and Ace Greenberg called me to say that a trustee of the Dalton School 13:46.534 --> 13:48.202 had a young professor, 13:48.285 --> 13:51.372 Jeff Epstein, who wanted to come to Wall Street, 13:51.455 --> 13:54.041 and Ace asked if I would interview him. 13:54.875 --> 13:59.129 Epstein was well-known as a good teacher and somewhat of a ladies man, 13:59.213 --> 14:01.340 which didn't resonate at the time. 14:03.050 --> 14:05.094 After grilling Jeffrey a few times, 14:05.177 --> 14:09.765 I hired him to develop and market our quantitative analyses for options. 14:09.848 --> 14:11.141 He was terrific at it. 14:12.059 --> 14:13.894 Epstein was very quick-witted. 14:14.812 --> 14:18.858 When, uh, something arose that he might not have been able to predict, 14:19.275 --> 14:21.694 he dealt with it in an impressive fashion. 14:22.152 --> 14:24.530 That's a trait of an effective salesperson. 14:25.573 --> 14:28.409 I was favorably impressed that he could do the work. 14:28.492 --> 14:31.036 But this, I think, was one of my... 14:31.829 --> 14:33.706 important mistakes in my career. 14:38.168 --> 14:41.589 Epstein had been working for me perhaps two months. 14:41.672 --> 14:45.467 The head of personnel called me. He said, "Are you sitting down? 14:46.719 --> 14:50.598 Jeffrey Epstein lied on his résumé about his education. 14:51.599 --> 14:53.809 None of his colleges have ever heard of him." 14:54.435 --> 14:55.769 I was stunned. 14:57.187 --> 14:58.480 I hired a liar. 14:58.814 --> 15:01.233 Even worse, he was dating Ace's daughter. 15:02.026 --> 15:03.527 I went to Ace Greenberg. 15:03.611 --> 15:05.946 I wasn't sure how he would want me to proceed, 15:06.488 --> 15:09.158 and Ace said, "Treat him like anybody else." 15:10.451 --> 15:12.328 I was prepared to fire him. 15:13.287 --> 15:17.374 And this is where his sales skills really resonated. 15:17.458 --> 15:19.209 When I told him he'd lied, 15:19.543 --> 15:21.003 he admitted it immediately. 15:21.503 --> 15:22.630 He just said, 15:22.713 --> 15:27.092 "I knew I couldn't get a job teaching at a high-quality school 15:27.176 --> 15:30.304 if I didn't have good educational credentials, 15:30.387 --> 15:31.930 so I wanted to get a chance." 15:32.014 --> 15:34.433 I said, "Why didn't you tell us the truth?" 15:34.516 --> 15:37.019 He said, "Well, I was afraid the Dalton School would hear about it 15:37.102 --> 15:38.687 and there would be problems." 15:38.771 --> 15:40.105 He said, "I wanted to." 15:40.648 --> 15:43.567 And he did it in a way that was very convincing. 15:44.985 --> 15:46.111 He disarmed me. 15:47.029 --> 15:50.324 And I thought, "Do I want to play God and throw him in the street, 15:50.407 --> 15:52.326 maybe destroy his potential?" 15:54.370 --> 15:55.871 Today, I wish I had. 15:58.540 --> 16:01.961 He had done well enough that they made him a limited partner. 16:02.670 --> 16:05.339 But then a few years after that, I heard he'd been fired 16:05.422 --> 16:06.966 for breaking some rules. 16:08.008 --> 16:11.011 I deeply regret giving Epstein a second chance. 16:11.679 --> 16:13.514 That was my tragedy. 16:29.822 --> 16:34.243 Most of the victims did not want to prosecute when we first contacted them. 16:34.660 --> 16:39.164 So once we had four or five victims who were cooperative, 16:39.248 --> 16:42.042 we presented applications for arrest warrants 16:42.126 --> 16:43.711 to the state attorney's office. 16:47.548 --> 16:50.008 From the time I first became police chief, 16:50.092 --> 16:53.554 I had an excellent relationship with the state attorney, 16:53.637 --> 16:54.680 Barry Krischer. 16:55.347 --> 16:59.226 The first time that I talked about the case against Epstein with him, 16:59.309 --> 17:03.230 I explained that we had about 40-some victims who were in their teens, 17:03.313 --> 17:05.399 early teens in some cases, 17:05.733 --> 17:08.986 who had sex with an adult male in his 50s. 17:09.069 --> 17:11.780 He said he didn't know Jeffrey Epstein and he remarked, 17:12.281 --> 17:14.825 "We'll put him away for the rest of his life. It's an easy case." 17:18.871 --> 17:21.206 [sinister music] 17:22.124 --> 17:25.294 [Marc Fisher] Jeffrey Epstein, both through his money and his connections, 17:25.377 --> 17:26.378 was able to assemble 17:26.462 --> 17:29.965 an extraordinary dream team of at least eight defense lawyers 17:30.049 --> 17:33.427 who were known throughout the country and throughout their industry 17:33.510 --> 17:35.012 as the absolute best. 17:35.846 --> 17:38.182 From Clinton impeachment lawyer, Kenneth Starr, 17:38.265 --> 17:41.602 the top defense lawyers of South Florida, people like Roy Black, 17:42.019 --> 17:44.772 New Yorkers like Jay Lefkowitz and Gerald Lefcourt 17:44.855 --> 17:47.900 to Harvard Law School Professor Alan Dershowitz. 17:52.237 --> 17:55.073 [Alan Dershowitz] I was born to be a criminal defense lawyer. 17:57.284 --> 17:58.869 If you want to be a defense attorney, 17:58.952 --> 18:00.996 you can't be concerned about what people think of you. 18:03.248 --> 18:06.627 So, I did represent Claus von Bülow, 18:06.710 --> 18:11.715 O.J. Simpson, and Mike Tyson, and Leona Helmsley, and Patricia Hearst, 18:12.132 --> 18:14.009 and so many other people. 18:16.845 --> 18:19.598 My relationship with Jeffrey Epstein was academic 18:20.057 --> 18:21.141 and lawyer-client... 18:22.017 --> 18:25.729 but it was a close academic friendship. For example, when I would write books, 18:25.813 --> 18:27.898 I would only send them  to a handful of people. 18:27.981 --> 18:28.816 He was one of them 18:28.899 --> 18:33.237 because he would seriously read every word I wrote, 18:33.320 --> 18:35.656 and he would have comments and criticisms. 18:36.573 --> 18:40.494 Jeffrey Epstein called me, I think, the day he got the first indications, 18:40.577 --> 18:42.538 and the first indications were merely 18:42.621 --> 18:46.959 that one or two of the women may have been 17, 18:47.042 --> 18:51.171 and may have lied about their age, had given him false documentation. 18:51.255 --> 18:56.552 He asked me if I would help represent him. I said I couldn't represent him myself, 18:56.635 --> 18:59.471 I'm not a member of the Florida bar, 19:00.222 --> 19:04.017 but that I would help him put together a legal team, and I did. 19:11.441 --> 19:12.818 [Fisher] Detectives quickly learned 19:13.318 --> 19:17.823 that Epstein was on to them and that he was organizing a defense. 19:17.906 --> 19:20.576 And, in fact, he was organizing an offense. 19:21.326 --> 19:25.247 Jeffrey Epstein's attorneys were looking into what the detectives were doing, 19:25.330 --> 19:27.166 who they were, what their pasts were, 19:27.249 --> 19:31.753 whether there were any peccadilloes that would make them vulnerable to attack. 19:33.964 --> 19:36.466 [Reiter] There was surveillance of me for months, 19:36.550 --> 19:39.094 round-the-clock surveillance of Detective Recarey, 19:39.178 --> 19:43.473 around-the clock picking up of his trash at his home and my trash. 19:43.557 --> 19:46.310 And the reason that it happened to the degree that it did 19:46.393 --> 19:49.771 is because Mr. Epstein had the resources to do that. 19:50.272 --> 19:53.483 In fact, we found private investigators going through the trash 19:53.567 --> 19:55.068 at the police station. 19:55.152 --> 19:57.988 So we stopped putting the reports in the computer 19:58.071 --> 20:01.241 and actually had them kept separately. 20:03.869 --> 20:06.747 [Malloy] A few months after Chief Michael Reiter hands over 20:06.830 --> 20:09.708 the evidence to his close friend Barry Krischer, 20:09.791 --> 20:14.046 Reiter notes an alarming difference in Krischer's attitude towards Epstein. 20:15.130 --> 20:18.467 Krischer had all but said to his friend Chief Michael Reiter, 20:18.550 --> 20:20.802 "We're gonna string him up. You had a really solid case." 20:20.886 --> 20:21.720 And then suddenly, 20:21.803 --> 20:23.680 the teeth seems to go out of the investigation, 20:23.764 --> 20:28.018 at least on the side of the state attorney who was supposed to be prosecuting this. 20:29.770 --> 20:33.732 [Reiter] I had been speaking with Mr. Krischer along the way, 20:33.815 --> 20:36.652 and the state attorney's office  started saying, 20:36.735 --> 20:39.696 "Look, these victims will not make good witnesses. 20:40.739 --> 20:44.076 Yes, these victims, most of them, 20:44.159 --> 20:50.040 received financial compensation for, uh, the sexual contact with Mr. Epstein, 20:50.707 --> 20:53.877 but no child can consent to have sex with an adult." 20:55.629 --> 20:59.216 But we were never able to really convince the prosecutors 20:59.299 --> 21:00.509 that that didn't matter. 21:13.272 --> 21:14.481 [Malloy] In a release, 21:14.564 --> 21:17.234 a high-powered local attorney Jack Goldberger, Epstein's attorney, 21:17.317 --> 21:20.654 emphasized the grand jury in this questioned the credibility of the girls 21:20.737 --> 21:24.658 and therefore limited their charges simply to solicitation of prostitution. 21:24.741 --> 21:27.119 Epstein is out on bond, and he is not talking. 21:33.709 --> 21:36.920 [woman] I've been a reporter at The Palm Beach Post for about 16 years. 21:38.338 --> 21:41.300 I think nobody knew anything until 2006, and then it just... 21:41.383 --> 21:43.218 [makes explosion sound] It exploded. 21:44.845 --> 21:48.473 Epstein's attorneys went after the victims viciously. 21:48.557 --> 21:51.685 I mean, their depositions that I've read were just, I mean, hideous. 21:51.768 --> 21:54.521 I remember one where he asked one of the young girls, 21:54.604 --> 21:56.440 "Is it true you've had three abortions?" 21:56.523 --> 21:59.443 And then they asked the girl, "Well, what's worse, 21:59.526 --> 22:02.738 having three abortions or giving sexual massages to Jeffrey Epstein?" 22:03.947 --> 22:06.491 It was just brutal what they did to these women. 22:09.369 --> 22:11.663 [Dershowitz] You must bring out all the negatives. 22:11.747 --> 22:14.207 You have to present the full picture. 22:14.750 --> 22:21.173 Their credibility may be subject to question because of their backgrounds, 22:21.256 --> 22:24.092 but it has nothing to do with blaming them. 22:25.427 --> 22:26.928 It's the role of the defense attorney 22:27.012 --> 22:30.390 to raise questions about the credibility of any witnesses. 22:30.849 --> 22:34.061 We don't look at what's good for victims. We don't look at anything 22:34.144 --> 22:38.398 except what's good for our client, ethically and legally. 22:41.526 --> 22:44.112 [woman] I've been with the TV station in Palm Beach County 22:44.196 --> 22:46.448 for almost 23 years now. 22:47.074 --> 22:49.451 The Jeffrey Epstein story is as big as it gets. 22:50.243 --> 22:51.995 So when the story broke, 22:52.079 --> 22:56.333 we started realizing the gravity of a Palm Beach billionaire 22:56.416 --> 22:59.044 and the accusations that we were starting to hear, 22:59.127 --> 23:01.838 we were quickly on the air with this story, 23:02.756 --> 23:05.467 but Epstein's team wanted this to go away. 23:06.426 --> 23:08.595 There were weekly phone calls to reporters 23:09.137 --> 23:12.557 with threats to make the story go away. 23:12.641 --> 23:15.477 "You don't want to do this. You shouldn't be looking into this." 23:16.770 --> 23:19.981 And it was mystifying to the Palm Beach Police Department 23:20.065 --> 23:22.567 because they had all this evidence. 23:23.985 --> 23:26.905 [reporter] Palm Beach Police think prostitution charges brought against 23:26.988 --> 23:30.575 billionaire socialite Jeffrey Epstein don't go far enough. 23:30.951 --> 23:33.787 Investigators think prosecutors should have gone after Epstein 23:33.870 --> 23:36.498 on charges of unlawful sex with a minor. 23:36.873 --> 23:38.500 So why didn't they? 23:40.627 --> 23:42.963 [Reiter] We were all extremely frustrated. 23:44.714 --> 23:45.799 Once we knew 23:45.882 --> 23:50.137 that the one charge was going to be the extent of the state's prosecution, 23:51.054 --> 23:54.933 I wrote the parents of all the victims and told them that 23:55.016 --> 23:57.727 I did not feel  that justice was sufficiently served, 23:58.395 --> 24:00.647 and that I was referring the case to the FBI. 24:04.192 --> 24:06.069 [Jane Musgrave] It's highly unusual for a police chief 24:06.153 --> 24:07.737 to sidestep the state attorney's office, 24:07.821 --> 24:10.782 and go directly to the feds, and demand an investigation. 24:10.866 --> 24:12.534 I don't know that I have ever heard of that, 24:12.617 --> 24:16.538 and I think that's one of the many, many odd things about this case. 24:22.711 --> 24:24.504 [Shannon Cake] Any investigator or investigation, 24:24.588 --> 24:27.299 the first thing you're going to do is look back in time and see: 24:27.382 --> 24:28.383 Has this happened before? 24:28.466 --> 24:30.468 Are there other claims? Are there other victims? 24:33.305 --> 24:35.140 The FBI actually found two women 24:35.223 --> 24:38.727 who had accused Epstein a decade earlier, in 1996. 24:39.186 --> 24:40.687 Maria Farmer, an artist, 24:41.354 --> 24:42.814 and her younger sister, Annie. 24:49.196 --> 24:51.948 [Maria Farmer] In 1996, following the assault 24:52.032 --> 24:53.533 by Jeffrey and Ghislaine, 24:53.617 --> 24:55.702 I came back to New York... 24:57.704 --> 25:01.625 and then I found out that they knew that I'd reported them to the FBI. 25:03.418 --> 25:06.713 Ghislaine called and said she was going to burn all my art, 25:07.172 --> 25:09.549 and burn my career and destroy it, 25:09.633 --> 25:13.345 she was entirely socially connected, and that I was screwed. 25:13.887 --> 25:16.139 She told me I needed to watch my back, 25:16.223 --> 25:18.892 that, "I know you like to go running on the West Side Highway, 25:18.975 --> 25:21.770 and that's not going to be a safe place for you anymore, 25:21.853 --> 25:24.523 because there are a lot of ways to die on the West Side Highway." 25:25.982 --> 25:31.196 From that point on, over many years, I would move, I would relocate, 25:31.613 --> 25:35.242 and a couple of months would go by, and I would be moving in, 25:35.825 --> 25:39.037 and Ghislaine... Ghislaine would call me. 25:39.120 --> 25:41.122 She would say she knew where I lived. 25:42.040 --> 25:46.086 She would say that same kinds of veiled threats like... 25:46.920 --> 25:48.672 "You're not safe where you are. 25:48.755 --> 25:50.632 You might want to check over your shoulder." 25:55.929 --> 26:01.017 Finally, in 2006, I was living in the mountains of North Carolina. 26:01.851 --> 26:02.978 I was hiding. 26:03.603 --> 26:06.231 I had changed my name. I had an alias... 26:07.732 --> 26:11.778 and I get a knock on the door, and it's this man and this woman, 26:12.237 --> 26:15.115 and they show me their badges, they're FBI, 26:15.198 --> 26:17.284 and this woman said, 26:17.701 --> 26:20.745 "This is about your 1996 FBI report, 26:21.079 --> 26:23.748 and we're following up because we're going to get him. 26:23.832 --> 26:25.166 We're going to get them." 26:27.127 --> 26:28.378 [Annie Farmer] The FBI came, 26:28.461 --> 26:31.506 and they interviewed me, and they interviewed my sister, 26:31.590 --> 26:33.008 and we told them our stories. 26:33.091 --> 26:36.511 And so we just thought, "Oh, my gosh! They're really... 26:36.595 --> 26:40.724 You know, they're doing a thorough job. They're looking at people in other places. 26:40.807 --> 26:43.893 They're recognizing that this is a more systemic issue, 26:43.977 --> 26:47.606 and they are... You know, he's gonna be held accountable." 26:52.944 --> 26:55.196 [Shawna Rivera] I talked to the FBI, and they're like, 26:55.280 --> 26:56.740 "We're here to save you." 26:56.823 --> 26:58.199 And they assured me 26:58.283 --> 27:00.201 that they were going to protect me, 27:00.285 --> 27:03.371 and that they needed me to tell them everything that happened. 27:04.039 --> 27:07.292 And they would help as many victims as they can. 27:08.585 --> 27:10.128 [Sigrid McCawley] I think a lot of the families, 27:10.211 --> 27:12.714 when they came to learn what had happened to their daughters, 27:12.797 --> 27:16.176 reached out to attorneys to try to help them navigate this circumstance, 27:16.259 --> 27:18.553 because obviously there was a criminal aspect to it, 27:18.637 --> 27:20.347 there was a civil aspect to it, 27:20.430 --> 27:23.475 and they were also facing somebody who is incredibly powerful, 27:23.558 --> 27:26.269 incredibly wealthy, incredibly intimidating, 27:26.353 --> 27:29.189 so they needed lawyers to help them through that process. 27:43.953 --> 27:46.247 [man] The first time I heard Jeffrey Epstein's name 27:46.331 --> 27:47.916 was when I had my own law firm 27:48.416 --> 27:52.379 dedicated to representing crime victims in civil cases. 27:53.588 --> 27:55.965 A friend of mine from Jacksonville, who was also a lawyer, 27:56.049 --> 28:02.055 he called me and said that he had received a call from a girl. 28:03.264 --> 28:04.849 And that was Courtney Wild. 28:05.892 --> 28:07.268 Courtney came to my office. 28:07.602 --> 28:10.188 Then she told me how she went into his house 28:10.271 --> 28:11.564 and told me what happened there. 28:17.946 --> 28:22.742 [woman] I was 14 when I was introduced to Jeffrey Epstein. 28:23.159 --> 28:26.788 It was eighth grade summer, going from eighth grade to high school. 28:29.290 --> 28:32.794 From sixth, seventh and eighth grade, I was a straight-A student. 28:32.877 --> 28:34.462 I never even got a B. 28:34.546 --> 28:38.133 I played the trumpet. I was captain of the cheerleading squad... 28:39.551 --> 28:45.390 but then from eighth grade to ninth grade, things fell apart for me and my family. 28:46.182 --> 28:50.353 Just from, um... my mom's addiction. 28:50.437 --> 28:54.065 She was sick, battling her own demons, wasn't really able to care for me, 28:54.399 --> 28:56.526 and I was basically homeless 28:56.609 --> 28:59.320 and living at friends' houses and stuff like that. 29:02.699 --> 29:04.492 When I first went to Jeffrey's, 29:04.576 --> 29:07.537 I really was expecting I was going to make easy money 29:07.620 --> 29:09.205 giving this guy a massage. 29:09.706 --> 29:12.917 And that situation escalated to him molesting me. 29:14.461 --> 29:18.173 It happened so quick where it's like, "What just happened?" 29:19.507 --> 29:22.927 But being vulnerable at 14 years old, 29:23.011 --> 29:29.017 and trying to handle life on my own, it was just overwhelming, so... 29:29.434 --> 29:31.895 um, I did continue to go back to Jeffrey's. 29:32.395 --> 29:34.147 He made me feel like, 29:34.230 --> 29:38.651 you know, basically, I was lucky to be in his presence. 29:38.735 --> 29:44.824 It was just a glorified manipulation thing he had going on and that worked. 29:48.244 --> 29:51.790 It was maybe the second time I went to him or the third. 29:52.165 --> 29:54.292 He asked me, do I have any friends, 29:54.375 --> 29:55.919 can I bring anybody? 29:56.002 --> 29:59.839 And he would give me $200 and the person $200. 30:01.549 --> 30:04.677 In my time frame of going for three to four years, 30:04.761 --> 30:07.180 I at least brought him about 40 to 60 girls. 30:08.556 --> 30:11.601 I know that this is wrong, this is crazy, 30:11.684 --> 30:15.688 but I just became okay with that because of what he offered me. 30:15.772 --> 30:19.442 He offered me cash. He offered me a way 30:19.943 --> 30:21.653 so I could eat and pay my bills, 30:21.736 --> 30:24.531 and he offered me something that nobody else did. 30:26.199 --> 30:27.867 I felt like he was my lifeline. 30:37.544 --> 30:39.712 [Courtney Wild] So, in the beginning of the investigation 30:39.796 --> 30:42.173 when the police were reaching out to me, 30:42.257 --> 30:43.341 I was confused. 30:43.424 --> 30:47.804 I felt like I had this painting of Jeffrey that he was this awesome man, 30:48.137 --> 30:50.598 that he actually saved my life in a sense, 30:50.682 --> 30:53.518 that I was very lucky to ever be introduced to him. 30:55.019 --> 30:58.898 But then I see the police reports of girls that I had brought to Jeffrey's, 30:59.482 --> 31:00.525 close friends, 31:01.234 --> 31:03.611 and that made me have the change of heart. 31:04.779 --> 31:06.322 The emotions come over 31:06.906 --> 31:09.742 of, like, guilt, and shame, and disgust. 31:10.285 --> 31:11.452 It was traumatic. 31:12.662 --> 31:13.913 That's when I started saying, 31:13.997 --> 31:16.749 "Okay, this isn't right. Something needs to happen about this." 31:18.585 --> 31:22.422 So I find Brad Edwards, my attorney. 31:23.506 --> 31:26.301 [Brad Edwards] I told her, "You don't really have much to worry about. 31:26.926 --> 31:31.139 This is somebody who is not ever going to be free again." 31:31.598 --> 31:34.350 She said, "But I don't think you understand the level of power he has." 31:35.768 --> 31:37.061 It's just unheard of. 31:37.145 --> 31:40.064 It's just an unbelievable scheme to have kept going 31:40.148 --> 31:42.275 for that long of a period of time. 31:42.817 --> 31:44.569 I've never heard anything like this 31:44.652 --> 31:47.906 where somebody was able to set up basically a pyramid scheme, 31:47.989 --> 31:50.074 a molestation pyramid scheme. 31:54.203 --> 31:55.580 Hey, do you have the victim chart? 31:55.663 --> 31:57.248 -The chart that we created? -Yeah. 31:59.042 --> 32:01.169 Well, this is when we were first... 32:02.337 --> 32:04.756 trying to map out the case. 32:05.423 --> 32:06.549 We had to prove 32:07.091 --> 32:11.679 that this pyramid of underage girls in Palm Beach... 32:12.639 --> 32:13.681 was true. 32:14.307 --> 32:18.645 It didn't start from just a random underage girl walking into the house. 32:19.270 --> 32:21.814 Ghislaine Maxwell was one of the recruiters 32:21.898 --> 32:24.859 of the underage girls for Jeffrey Epstein. 32:24.943 --> 32:27.028 The other recruiters that were identified 32:27.111 --> 32:28.571 were Sarah Kellen, 32:28.655 --> 32:30.365 Nadia Marcinkova, 32:30.448 --> 32:31.908 Adriana Mucinska, 32:31.991 --> 32:34.285 and we just started tracking 32:34.619 --> 32:39.040 if this person, which name is not identified right now, 32:39.123 --> 32:41.250 was an underage girl. 32:41.626 --> 32:42.710 "Who did you bring?" 32:43.294 --> 32:45.505 And then from that person we would bridge down, 32:45.588 --> 32:46.673 "How many did you bring?" 32:46.756 --> 32:49.550 And she would name the other five or six people. 32:49.634 --> 32:53.096 This was something that we assembled in about 30 days 32:53.179 --> 32:57.350 and realized that this chart could go off like a spider web 32:57.433 --> 33:01.062 for, you know, five times as big as this chart. 33:03.690 --> 33:06.484 [McCawley] So at the top of the pyramid scheme was Ghislaine Maxwell, 33:06.567 --> 33:08.528 who was really Epstein's right-hand person 33:08.611 --> 33:11.739 with helping to recruit these individuals for sexual abuse. 33:13.866 --> 33:16.619 [Vicky Ward] Jeffrey and Ghislaine met in New York. 33:17.662 --> 33:21.165 Jeffrey Epstein's really an introvert. 33:21.541 --> 33:27.880 Ghislaine is a much more charming person than Jeffrey is. 33:27.964 --> 33:29.090 She's an extrovert. 33:29.924 --> 33:33.511 I think he revels in being this man of mystery, 33:33.970 --> 33:37.515 who almost can't be bothered to dress properly. 33:37.598 --> 33:39.809 He can't be bothered to go to restaurants, 33:40.560 --> 33:43.271 and he likes the sort of intrigue that that creates about him. 33:43.980 --> 33:46.691 Ghislaine is a very engaging person. 33:46.774 --> 33:49.861 She's extremely charismatic and bubbly. 33:51.362 --> 33:56.826 Her father, Robert Maxwell, had been an incredibly big figure in England. 33:57.201 --> 34:00.246 He was a big newspaper publisher. 34:00.663 --> 34:04.292 In fact, he'd been something of a con man and a fraudster, 34:04.375 --> 34:06.127 but he'd lived a huge life. 34:07.211 --> 34:11.382 When Ghislaine came to New York, 34:11.466 --> 34:14.177 her whole world had fallen apart. 34:14.761 --> 34:19.640 Her father, who she was incredibly attached to... 34:20.349 --> 34:23.394 had died in very murky circumstances, 34:23.478 --> 34:27.231 and also his entire reputation had been shattered. 34:29.150 --> 34:35.114 Jeffrey, in a way, felt like a safe haven for her. Here was... 34:35.990 --> 34:40.828 another very rich man to sort of replace her father. 34:45.041 --> 34:49.837 [sinister music] 34:55.176 --> 34:58.387 [man] I've been covering Wall Street since at least 1991. 34:59.388 --> 35:03.267 You know, Jeffrey Epstein was always someone whose name popped up, 35:03.768 --> 35:05.728 but I couldn't really nail it down. 35:05.937 --> 35:07.146 He was a cipher. 35:08.648 --> 35:11.109 People I know on Wall Street leave trails. 35:11.567 --> 35:13.402 His trail was elusive. 35:14.278 --> 35:16.739 So it was just sort of odd that here was this guy 35:16.823 --> 35:19.033 that people talked about a lot, 35:19.325 --> 35:21.661 that didn't have much of a footprint in the investment world. 35:22.787 --> 35:26.874 That's the mystery of Jeffrey Epstein. You know, how did he make money? 35:32.880 --> 35:35.299 [man] I deeply regret 35:35.675 --> 35:37.301 that I met Jeffrey Epstein, 35:37.593 --> 35:42.265 who is somebody that has haunted me for over 30 years. 35:43.766 --> 35:47.311 Without me, he wouldn't be  the billionaire he is today, 35:47.395 --> 35:49.814 and these poor girls would not be raped. 35:49.897 --> 35:54.819 And I'm here for redemption and to tell the story to the public. 35:55.778 --> 35:56.946 [car horn beeping] 35:59.699 --> 36:02.160 [Steven Hoffenberg] I met Jeff Epstein in the '80s 36:02.952 --> 36:06.247 after he was thrown out of Bear Stearns. 36:06.914 --> 36:10.334 I was the CEO of Towers Financial Corporation. 36:12.962 --> 36:18.342 [Ward] Steve Hoffenberg and Jeffrey were both self-made guys. 36:18.759 --> 36:23.014 But when Jeffrey met him, Hoffenberg was the sort of... the mogul. 36:23.097 --> 36:27.185 He was the one flying around in private planes. 36:27.268 --> 36:30.354 He was the one with the wealth. 36:32.440 --> 36:35.610 [Hoffenberg] The CEO of a very large company 36:35.693 --> 36:38.446 who had employed Jeffrey Epstein in Europe 36:38.821 --> 36:41.699 called me and said, "This is a brilliant man 36:41.782 --> 36:44.994 that we'd like you to interview for North America 36:45.411 --> 36:50.249 because he has credentials on Wall Street, and he's loaded with energy, 36:50.541 --> 36:53.044 but his moral compass is upside down." 36:53.920 --> 36:59.383 Jeffrey Epstein had cheated and stolen money on his expense account. 37:00.259 --> 37:02.887 He definitely appealed to us, 37:02.970 --> 37:05.973 because we were running a Ponzi scheme. [chuckles] 37:06.807 --> 37:08.184 And he understood Wall Street, 37:08.267 --> 37:14.607 and he could deliver substantial results in this criminal enterprise. 37:16.651 --> 37:21.530 So I interviewed Jeffrey Epstein, and he took control of the interview. 37:21.864 --> 37:25.534 He's got a gift that's extraordinary, 37:25.618 --> 37:28.788 where he controls the people he meets 37:28.871 --> 37:32.416 and manipulates them totally with his charisma. 37:45.471 --> 37:49.600 [Hoffenberg] Jeffrey Epstein became my partner in crime, 37:49.684 --> 37:52.853 backing me up, leading the advance, 37:52.937 --> 37:57.149 doing the crimes alongside me daily. 37:57.650 --> 38:01.320 He took over the securities side, 38:01.821 --> 38:03.823 the fake assets side. 38:04.115 --> 38:06.033 He was manipulating stock price 38:06.575 --> 38:08.744 and trading stock illegally. 38:11.414 --> 38:16.043 [Ward] People involved certainly remembered Jeffrey 38:16.127 --> 38:19.839 as being incredibly important in coming up 38:20.214 --> 38:22.425 with how the scheme would work. 38:24.343 --> 38:27.930 Then the law caught up to this massive scam. 38:30.474 --> 38:34.729 [Hoffenberg] I stood up, plead guilty, and accepted the responsibility. 38:35.146 --> 38:38.441 My sentence was for 20 years in federal prison... 38:39.775 --> 38:43.404 and I didn't turn evidence against him 38:43.487 --> 38:48.367 because Jeffrey Epstein told me he was a cooperating witness 38:48.451 --> 38:51.579 for the United States Department of Justice in the past 38:51.996 --> 38:54.081 and he had traction with them. 38:54.540 --> 38:59.879 I believe that Jeffrey Epstein would have been able to discredit me 38:59.962 --> 39:03.799 and say he was the White Knight and he was immaculate, 39:04.300 --> 39:06.802 and I knew that was his plan. 39:08.637 --> 39:13.893 You can't grasp the magnitude of this man's controlling effect. 39:13.976 --> 39:18.981 Jeffrey Epstein was able to control and manipulate people 39:19.523 --> 39:21.609 in an extreme method. 39:22.818 --> 39:24.570 That was typical Jeffrey Epstein. 39:25.571 --> 39:28.699 It's very clear that that is Jeffrey's MO, 39:28.783 --> 39:33.954 is to hold things over people, hold their secrets over people, I suspect. 39:34.413 --> 39:36.332 Um, you know, there's a pattern here. 39:38.125 --> 39:43.172 [Hoffenberg] Jeffrey Epstein's methods started with Leslie Wexner 39:43.506 --> 39:47.718 when Jeffrey Epstein sold his soul to Leslie Wexner 39:47.802 --> 39:50.137 for several billion dollars of investment. 39:58.938 --> 40:04.402 [man] Jeff Epstein met Les Wexner somewhere around 1986. 40:08.823 --> 40:11.534 This is Mr. Wexner's gate house, 40:11.992 --> 40:15.204 and beyond that gate house is a massive compound 40:15.287 --> 40:19.208 and the most expensive house in central Ohio. 40:21.377 --> 40:25.965 Les Wexner started out in 1963 40:26.382 --> 40:30.511 opening the women's fashion apparel shop, The Limited. 40:31.220 --> 40:34.140 Les bought various other brands, 40:34.765 --> 40:38.018 Abercrombie & Fitch and Victoria's Secret. 40:38.853 --> 40:42.314 Through all of that, became a multi-billionaire. 40:43.315 --> 40:47.820 At some point,  Les Wexner provided a power of attorney 40:47.903 --> 40:51.740 to Jeffrey Epstein over his financial affairs. 40:53.075 --> 40:57.955 I was astonished because Les Wexner is not the kind of guy 40:58.038 --> 41:01.500 who gives up control over anything. 41:02.042 --> 41:04.962 Epstein was this Svengali figure 41:05.045 --> 41:09.175 that seems to have some unexplainable grip, 41:09.258 --> 41:11.594 uh, over this titan of industry. 41:13.179 --> 41:16.640 There are people in the late '80s, early '90s 41:16.724 --> 41:20.186 that referred to Epstein  as "the boyfriend." 41:22.229 --> 41:27.026 [Hoffenberg] Jeffrey Epstein was working with both of us at the same time. 41:28.152 --> 41:31.989 He was going to Ohio regularly on a jet 41:32.072 --> 41:35.534 that was provided to Jeffrey by Leslie Wexner. 41:37.203 --> 41:41.248 Epstein explained to me personally 41:41.332 --> 41:47.671 that he could control the emotions of Leslie Wexner easily 41:48.047 --> 41:51.258 because Leslie Wexner was fascinated 41:51.342 --> 41:54.845 and Wexner totally adored Epstein. 41:55.846 --> 41:58.015 [Edwards] Do you consider yourself to be bisexual? 41:59.433 --> 42:00.768 -No. -[Edwards] Okay. 42:01.852 --> 42:05.314 In any event, you did develop a sexual relationship 42:05.397 --> 42:08.150 with Leslie Wexner at some point in time, is that true? 42:08.234 --> 42:09.068 No. 42:11.070 --> 42:16.158 [Hoffenberg] Epstein told me how he planned to manipulate and control 42:16.242 --> 42:20.079 Leslie Wexner's fortune of billions of dollars 42:20.412 --> 42:25.167 so that Jeffrey Epstein could invest 42:25.459 --> 42:28.712 and make substantial income. 42:41.433 --> 42:43.894 In 2019, Les Wexner revealed 42:43.978 --> 42:46.981 that he had cut ties with Epstein back in 2007. 42:48.315 --> 42:52.319 He said he discovered Epstein had stolen more than 46 million dollars from him. 42:52.403 --> 42:54.363 He didn't explain why he didn't press charges. 42:56.365 --> 42:58.075 [Les Wexner] Being taken advantage of 42:58.576 --> 43:02.288 by someone who was, uh, so sick, 43:02.371 --> 43:05.082 so cunning, uh, so depraved... 43:05.541 --> 43:06.417 uhm... 43:06.875 --> 43:10.671 is something that I'm embarrassed that I was even close to. 43:18.929 --> 43:23.517 [sinister music] 43:28.480 --> 43:30.566 [woman] I was, uh, a model and actress. 43:30.649 --> 43:32.192 [man] Alicia! What's up? 43:32.735 --> 43:34.361 [Alicia Arden] When my friend said, 43:34.445 --> 43:37.740 "This guy can get you in the Victoria's Secret catalog," 43:37.823 --> 43:38.949 I jumped. 43:40.409 --> 43:45.623 Jeffrey Epstein was staying at Shutters hotel in Santa Monica, California. 43:45.706 --> 43:47.875 So I met him at his hotel room. 43:48.250 --> 43:51.420 He said he knows  the owner of Victoria's Secret. 43:51.837 --> 43:55.382 So he started opening my portfolio of pictures... 43:56.342 --> 43:57.634 and then he said, 43:57.718 --> 43:59.845 "Let me see you in your bra and underwear." 43:59.928 --> 44:05.309 Then he started putting his hands on me and my hips and my butt. 44:06.685 --> 44:11.106 I really felt at the time that I was going to be raped or attacked. 44:11.523 --> 44:13.484 I ran out of the room crying. 44:14.985 --> 44:18.822 I drove to the Santa Monica Police Department to file a police report. 44:21.075 --> 44:23.369 I don't remember him ever being investigated. 44:23.452 --> 44:24.662 No one called me. 44:26.205 --> 44:28.082 He didn't get in trouble over it. 44:28.540 --> 44:32.044 It was like nothing really ever happened. 44:48.227 --> 44:51.397 [man] I've been a private investigator now for about ten years, 44:51.480 --> 44:54.650 but I'd say 80% of my job is... 44:55.567 --> 44:57.528 on the street finding information. 44:58.612 --> 45:01.532 When I started working on this case for Brad Edwards, 45:02.282 --> 45:06.995 he told me that the FBI is doing a parallel case, 45:07.079 --> 45:08.956 but they really don't have much. 45:09.206 --> 45:11.917 It was just really going along slow. 45:12.960 --> 45:16.296 I'm a fan of the FBI. I work very closely with them. 45:16.922 --> 45:19.508 So I said, "Well, okay. Maybe I can speed it up for them." 45:20.092 --> 45:22.761 I had one daughter at the time when I started working the case 45:22.845 --> 45:24.012 who was 21, 45:24.596 --> 45:27.015 and one daughter was 15. 45:29.560 --> 45:31.770 It didn't only make me think about my own daughters, 45:31.854 --> 45:34.815 it made me think about all the years I spent in law enforcement 45:34.898 --> 45:40.404 that I had to interview abused girls or girls that were victims of a pedophile 45:40.738 --> 45:43.282 and how broken these girls became. 45:46.910 --> 45:51.749 These are the girls that I have been able to identify myself that were victims, 45:52.124 --> 45:54.334 thirteen, and 14, and 15 years old. 45:54.793 --> 45:56.879 As you can see, there's a volume of them. 45:58.338 --> 46:01.759 I started going to the depressed areas of West Palm Beach, 46:01.842 --> 46:03.552 to these neighborhoods, 46:03.635 --> 46:05.596 and I would meet someone, 46:06.096 --> 46:09.475 or one of the girls that Brad was representing would know someone, 46:09.558 --> 46:10.893 give me a lead, 46:10.976 --> 46:15.272 and that's how I started finding girl after girl after girl. 46:16.565 --> 46:20.486 I think I must have found  like 46 other girls that were assaulted. 46:21.028 --> 46:23.739 Some of the victims were very reluctant to talk to me, 46:23.822 --> 46:26.116 but I was at least able to get their names, 46:26.200 --> 46:29.745 who they were and where they lived, which I later gave to the FBI. 46:29.828 --> 46:33.207 [sinister music] 46:37.461 --> 46:38.504 Everybody feared him, 46:38.587 --> 46:42.591 and fear was his greatest asset. 46:42.674 --> 46:45.052 I mean, that's what gave him his power. 46:46.470 --> 46:49.515 So I took it upon myself as civil prosecutor, 46:49.598 --> 46:53.268 and I served Jeffrey Epstein for a deposition 46:53.519 --> 46:56.230 and tried to achieve justice  for the victims. 46:58.106 --> 47:00.943 [Edwards] Mr. Epstein, how long have you been  47:01.026 --> 47:04.279 sexually attracted to underage minor females? 47:04.988 --> 47:07.241 [lawyer] Objection. Harassing, argumentative. 47:07.324 --> 47:08.408 Are you kidding? 47:11.119 --> 47:14.998 [Edwards] No, I mean, I don't feel like I'm divulging any secrets here, right? 47:16.834 --> 47:17.918 [lawyer] Move to strike. 47:19.711 --> 47:23.632 I was starting to really get on Jeffrey Epstein's nerves for sure. 47:23.715 --> 47:25.884 There's no doubt. Was I trying to? 47:26.385 --> 47:27.219 I guess so. 47:29.054 --> 47:30.013 [Edwards] Mr. Epstein? 47:30.097 --> 47:30.931 Yeah. 47:31.515 --> 47:33.809 [Edwards] Were you sexually abused as a minor? 47:35.936 --> 47:36.979 Wait, say that again? 47:37.354 --> 47:39.648 [Edwards] Were you sexually abused as a minor? 47:39.898 --> 47:43.277 [sighs] You know, I'd like to... Again, I'd like to respond to all your... 47:43.360 --> 47:45.571 If any questions seem to be relevant, 47:45.654 --> 47:48.907 but I would like to respond to any relevant question at this time. 47:48.991 --> 47:52.286 However, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers 47:52.369 --> 47:54.746 to the questions relevant to this lawsuit today. 47:55.205 --> 47:58.208 I must accept their advice or risk losing my Sixth Amendment right 47:58.292 --> 47:59.877 to effective representation. 48:00.544 --> 48:04.548 Accordingly then, I assert my Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment rights 48:04.631 --> 48:06.383 in the United States Constitution. 48:14.182 --> 48:15.225 [Mike Fisten] Pretty soon, 48:15.309 --> 48:18.645 Epstein's investigators started conducting surveillance on Brad. 48:19.187 --> 48:21.899 They were trying to find out 48:21.982 --> 48:26.111 if they can catch Brad doing anything wrong after hours, 48:26.194 --> 48:28.947 during hours, then try to blackmail him. 48:31.033 --> 48:32.117 But then, 48:32.200 --> 48:35.996 it became intimidation because they started surveilling Brad's house, 48:36.705 --> 48:38.165 where his wife and kids live. 48:39.082 --> 48:42.377 [Edwards] When my wife noticed that somebody was following her, I thought, 48:42.461 --> 48:45.923 "Okay, it's just getting out of hand. Now that's my family." 48:46.840 --> 48:50.510 He tried to intimidate me into just abandoning my clients, 48:50.802 --> 48:53.555 which I was never going to do. That was never going to happen. 48:56.600 --> 48:58.602 [Reiter] They were investigating the victims as well. 48:58.685 --> 49:01.605 We had several victims report to us that 49:01.688 --> 49:07.152 people posing as law enforcement officers were contacting the victims and... 49:08.028 --> 49:10.197 in some cases, intimidating them. 49:10.280 --> 49:12.699 [sinister music] 49:16.536 --> 49:17.871 [Rivera] I started noticing 49:17.955 --> 49:20.540 there were cars that would sit at the end of my street. 49:20.624 --> 49:23.460 I had these people constantly watching me. 49:24.336 --> 49:27.714 So I called my attorney, and I told him what was going on. 49:28.131 --> 49:29.174 Brad figured out 49:29.257 --> 49:32.552 that most of these vehicles were actually private investigators 49:32.636 --> 49:34.680 that were following and watching me. 49:35.973 --> 49:37.641 While she was sleeping in her bed, 49:37.724 --> 49:39.851 Jeffrey Epstein's investigators set their car up 49:39.935 --> 49:41.436 across the street from her house, 49:41.520 --> 49:44.898 and just shined their bright lights through her window all night. 49:48.026 --> 49:50.362 [Rivera] So Brad sent Mike Fisten over. 49:50.779 --> 49:53.865 They had this private investigator war, 49:53.949 --> 49:57.077 cameras against one another, recording each other. 49:57.619 --> 49:59.788 [Fisten] When I showed up, he was still here. 49:59.871 --> 50:01.415 I took pictures of his car, 50:01.790 --> 50:03.917 and then I took pictures of him in his car. 50:04.126 --> 50:06.503 With me there looking at him, 50:07.045 --> 50:08.380 he's still videotaping. 50:09.715 --> 50:11.925 It was really... It was kind of scary. 50:12.467 --> 50:16.221 Mike puts me in his car and he says, "We're going to get out of here." 50:16.304 --> 50:17.597 [Fisten] Don't follow her. 50:20.559 --> 50:24.855 [Rivera] And he drove me like hours down south and like put me in a hotel, 50:25.355 --> 50:28.275 where I hid and was basically just told like, 50:28.358 --> 50:30.694 "Your family's going to be safer if you're not home 50:30.777 --> 50:33.697 because they're not gonna... harass you now." 50:35.031 --> 50:38.744 Why do I have to make my family... 50:39.661 --> 50:44.416 safe from somebody who should be sitting in jail? 50:45.000 --> 50:47.002 [insects buzzing and chirping] 50:50.422 --> 50:52.466 [birds chirping] 51:00.265 --> 51:02.100 [Reiter] This was a cooperative investigation 51:02.184 --> 51:04.895 between the FBI and the US attorney's office. 51:05.395 --> 51:08.482 Although we were not an official partner to the investigation, 51:08.565 --> 51:09.983 they kept us informed. 51:10.067 --> 51:13.862 We cooperated, we introduced them to the victims that we knew of, 51:14.112 --> 51:17.199 we gave them all of the background information, 51:17.282 --> 51:20.869 and what's written between the lines that doesn't appear in a report. 51:21.828 --> 51:25.165 [Fisten] The agent on the case, Kuyrkendall, is a great agent. 51:25.916 --> 51:30.170 And she put together this case against this pedophile 51:30.670 --> 51:35.217 that was going to put him in prison the rest of his life 51:35.300 --> 51:37.511 if he just gets convicted of one count. 51:37.594 --> 51:40.722 The government had a plethora of information at their fingertips. 51:40.806 --> 51:44.267 They had 35 to 40 different victims that were willing to give testimony. 51:44.851 --> 51:48.563 They had information showing victims being transported across state lines, 51:48.647 --> 51:51.608 whether it be in private planes or on commercial flights. 51:51.691 --> 51:54.945 So, they had a 53-page indictment prepared 51:55.362 --> 51:57.864 because they had just an immense amount of information 51:57.948 --> 51:59.783 that they could charge Epstein with. 52:01.159 --> 52:04.496 [Reiter] I asked for an appointment with Alex Acosta. 52:04.579 --> 52:08.375 Alex Acosta at the time was the US attorney. 52:09.751 --> 52:14.172 I met with him and his team in Mr. Acosta's office. 52:14.256 --> 52:18.343 I told them that I would like to know from them 52:18.426 --> 52:21.388 that they were going to prosecute this case, 52:21.471 --> 52:26.393 and follow through with it, and, uh, get justice for the victims. 52:26.977 --> 52:29.896 I left my meeting with Alex Acosta thinking 52:29.980 --> 52:33.316 that Jeffrey Epstein would go to jail for the rest of his life. 52:34.359 --> 52:37.696 [sinister music] 52:41.241 --> 52:43.326 The case had been turned over to the federal government 52:43.410 --> 52:44.369 for more than two years, 52:45.078 --> 52:46.955 but I hadn't heard anything. 52:47.289 --> 52:51.710 I just want to know what's going on, so I call and speak with Marie Villafaña 52:51.793 --> 52:53.461 of the US attorney's office, 52:53.545 --> 52:57.591 and she confirmed that this is a massive case. 52:57.674 --> 53:00.927 I started asking when she thought a trial was actually going to happen, 53:01.428 --> 53:04.222 and I remember her telling me that, 53:04.514 --> 53:06.308 "There's just a lot that I want to tell you, 53:06.391 --> 53:10.020 and I know that your heart's in the right place, and mine is too. 53:10.103 --> 53:13.481 There's a lot that I want to tell you, Brad, that I can't tell you." 53:13.940 --> 53:16.776 And that's when I started thinking something was going on. 53:17.986 --> 53:21.740 [Reiter] Suddenly, when we'd call the FBI agents, 53:21.823 --> 53:23.950 they would tell us they were forbidden to talk 53:24.034 --> 53:27.203 with any representative of Palm Beach Police Department about the case. 53:27.287 --> 53:29.873 It's the only time that ever happened in my 30 years 53:29.956 --> 53:31.499 as a law enforcement officer. 53:34.669 --> 53:37.214 [male reporter] Epstein's personal 727 aircraft 53:37.297 --> 53:40.342 arrived at PBIA from Newark at 5:00 p.m. 53:40.592 --> 53:42.928 The investor, traveling with a small entourage, 53:43.011 --> 53:46.806 was met at the private Galaxy Aviation by a black Escalade and a driver. 53:47.098 --> 53:49.225 Sources tell News Channel 5 that Kenneth Starr, 53:49.309 --> 53:53.188 now a top lawyer in Los Angeles, will arrive here tomorrow morning. 53:54.439 --> 53:58.860 [Fisten] The US attorney Acosta met with Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers. 53:59.819 --> 54:03.657 The next thing, not only was the indictment gone, 54:03.740 --> 54:06.117 the FBI case was stopped. 54:06.201 --> 54:08.453 So the FBI agents were shook up... 54:09.204 --> 54:14.084 very upset, and started voicing their opposition... 54:14.793 --> 54:16.211 to what had occurred. 54:17.420 --> 54:20.298 [Maria Farmer] The FBI agent, Nesbitt Kuyrkendall, 54:20.382 --> 54:22.008 I was so impressed by her. 54:22.092 --> 54:25.887 She was very dedicated to the women in Florida. 54:26.554 --> 54:29.975 She called me really upset one day, and she said, 54:30.058 --> 54:33.979 "Maria, I know you're hesitant about testifying because you're afraid, 54:34.312 --> 54:36.731 and I just want you to know I don't know if it'll even matter 54:36.815 --> 54:39.025 'cause things are really falling apart." 54:39.109 --> 54:42.028 I contacted Kuyrkendall myself, and she was in tears. 54:42.112 --> 54:47.283 She was actually crying on the phone, in tears, that this happened. 54:47.617 --> 54:49.869 She felt so bad for these victims 54:49.953 --> 54:53.248 because she told these victims she's going to put this guy away. 54:54.040 --> 54:59.462 Nobody knows why US Attorney Acosta shut this case down. 55:00.964 --> 55:02.841 To me, that's bullshit. rney Acosta shut this case down.